"Is the Metatron EVIL?" Me, an intellectual: Yes.

@schubertuk

Ай бұрын

The Metatron might reply "You, an intellectual?": given unless he wants something from any of us, his behaviour seems both callous and belittling. However, on a serious note, I very much doubt Neil Gaiman will let the Metatron be straightforwardly evil - we just don't understand Metatron yet, and equally, the Metatron doesn't understand Aziraphale & Crowley yet (or, indeed, God's ineffable plan). The Metatron has a journey to go on too.

I think the Metatron’s line “for it to happen twice make it look like there is some kind of institutional problem” is foreshadowing his motivation to break up Aziraphale and Crowley. If I remember right, the Metatron only comes AFTER Gabriel and Beelzebub leave. He comes to insure that Azi and Crowley don’t leave too and make it “look like an institutional problem”. He’ll do anything to maintain heavens appearance and make sure heaven doesn’t fall apart.

@justcomments

Ай бұрын

Good point! That is rather convenient timing, isn’t it?

For Tennant era Doctor Who fans, casting Derek Jacobi as the Metatron DEFINITELY layers some very sinister overtones over the genially menacing feel of the character, that's for sure.

@sophitsa79

Ай бұрын

Oh! Thank you for this reminder! Oh that's delicious!!

@no_thats_ineffable

Ай бұрын

yes! he's a fantastic actor and deserves the role, but agreed!

@ishy2953

Ай бұрын

If I had a penny for every time Derek Jacobi was David Tennants enemy… I’d have two penny’s… which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice

@reine_dragon

Ай бұрын

Who did he play? I'm not great at recognizing people

@ishy2953

Ай бұрын

@@reine_dragon Derek Jacobi played the master in doctor who

I think he is going to try to kill Aziraphale and Crowley again.

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

That would be pretty dang villainous!

@PhantomQueenOne

Ай бұрын

Sorry about your ankle, Ouch! Broke my wrist Jan 2023. It's still not completely well. Frozen joints are not fun.

@mandysauro

Ай бұрын

Maybe he can't kill or erase them for some reason, so he has to resort to break them up, since their miracle together was so powerful

@AutistineDaae

Ай бұрын

@@mandysauro I've been wondering about why he hasn't tried to kill them!

@hunny_bon_20

Ай бұрын

But the paperworkkkkk :(

What I make of Metatron's clothing is that he selected it to 'compliment' and appeal to Aziraphale's tastes, while not overtly copying him. Just another subtle way of lowering his guard.

@mandysauro

Ай бұрын

Yes! Also speaking with British lingo

@theanswerisowl

Ай бұрын

Yeah, he embodies both of them, but not quite. Similar to Azis style, but darker. Dark, but not as dark as Crowley.

The Metatron mentioning Crowley wanting to go his own way was very pointed. It also seems personal for Metatron against Crowley.

@terencegucwa5659

Ай бұрын

Yes, Yes, Yes! I do think Metatron is more than just the dutiful CEO of the villain Heaven. This is personal between Metatron and Crowley, but Crowley doesn't seem to know it. We know Crowley's memory of what happened at the Fall is flawed. I suspect Metatron remembers very well what happened and intensely despises Crowley for it. Yet, the worst that Metatron actually said about Crowley is "Always asking damn fool questions, too". I suspect Metatron did something back then that he's covering it up, but Crowley, at one time knew it, or started asking "damn fool questions" about it.

@terencegucwa5659

Ай бұрын

Another thing that makes me think it's personal for Metatron against Crowley is that Metatron is particularly interested in knowing if Crowley recognizes him. Perhaps from what happened at the Fall. Apparently Crowley doesn't remember that, just Gabriel's trial, so if Metatron is concerned about Crowley's memory of the Fall, he's off the hook, for now.

@AziraleyLove

Ай бұрын

I felt like the Metatron was worried about whether Crowley would convince Aziraphale to stay and when he didn't the Metatron felt compelled to put Crowley down more - go his own way, damn foot questions - to emphasize to Aziraphale how much they don't need him and he's just a problem (although I don't think the Metatron realized that kind of manipulation would never work).

Ngl the Britishism thing is what unnerved me the most..

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Yes, it's very intentional on the part of the metatron, slipping them in anywhere he could!

@mill-i-am

26 күн бұрын

@@Sendarya I'm really glad you pointed out the Britishisms. I'm from the UK and probably wouldn't have noticed this tactic of the Metatron's, because to me he's just talking normally 😅

I don't know if the metatron even *has* motivations as such; I think of him more as an... algorithm

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

That's a really interesting idea. He's just doing what he's programmed to do?

@jackihutch87

Ай бұрын

@@Sendarya yes, basically. like remember when google got in trouble for being racist bc when you googled 'professional' images it turned out pics of only white people? the algorithm is only as good as its code, essentially. so google wasn't being intentionally racist but there were underlying assumptions/rules in the source code. i think this is similar to the metatron's inability to lie but not to deceive--his code is "do this not this" but there's no spirit of the law, only the letter of the law, to mix metaphors

Honestly, it would be sweet (ha) if Crowley decided to keep the travel sweets in the Bentley even after Aziraphale changed her back, as he demanded❤

@reptanglian

Ай бұрын

So the Bentley DID create the travel sweets just for Aziraphale??

@lulu480

Ай бұрын

@@reptanglian that’s been my impression. I think the Bentley really likes Aziraphale. Remember when he returned to the bookstore and the Bentley rolls forward as if to follow him?

@m.w.5972

Ай бұрын

​@@lulu480Bentley definitely takes on Crowley's characteristics and preferences, doesn't she? She does things to please Aziraphale just like Crowley does it - he is however a little more reserved with it. So of course she rolls after Azi, unwilling to let him go 😂

@ericamacs3875

Ай бұрын

@@m.w.5972 I am sure Neil has said something about how the Bentley loves Aziraphale.

@mergimergimergi

Ай бұрын

​@@ericamacs3875 yeah he said she "would have followed Aziraphale anywhere"

I have really enjoyed your insights. I agree with almost everything, except saying that the angels didn't recognize his human form - it wasn't the form, they didn't recognize him at all. The floating head looked just like his human form. Crowley recognized him and he knew Crowley did, and once Crowley did then Aziraphale did, it wasn't until Aziraphale mentioned the Metatron that the other angels reacted. And that's why I think the Metatron really wanted to get rid of Crowley - Crowley saw things that others didn't and helped Aziraphale to see them too. Just like in 1800's Scotland Crowley led Aziraphale to the truth without outright saying it. That, coupled with their increased power when combined, is what he was scared of. I also think the Metatron would have done something with Crowley had he come to heaven - wiped his memory or took away his power, something to weaken him. That would fit with his manipulation - make Aziraphale think Crowley would be the same, yet he wouldn't be.

@AziraleyLove

Ай бұрын

I agree. I think the Metatron figured Crowley wouldn't go but if he did, he'd do some manipulating, gaslighting to pull them apart. Although that would make for an interesting season 3...

The whole comparison to the man behind the curtain was actually exactly the comparison I made. I don't particularly enjoy the "magic trick you didn't see" theory however I do support the thought that due to God's absence the past few millenia, he may be the one pulling all the strings. I also do hope to see something to do with God's absence, although I just hypothesise that she eventually grew bored of humanity and took a break to watch how it all would unfold on the sidelines Another great theory video as always, glad to see you're back!

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Thank you! His character aligns with the Wizard of Oz, for sure, a somewhat more sinister version. The metatron must be in charge at this point. The last God was heard from is BC. Interesting hypothesis! Are you familiar with Mark Twain's "The Mysterious Stranger"? Getting bored fits pretty well! Like an old game of The SIms, lol

“Captain going down with the ship” fits with the whole 40s stiff upper lip “keep calm and carry on” vibe of the Metatron’s character! And yes! A travel sweet!!

@mummycrit8894

Ай бұрын

I’m back (from my other acct, lol) with another obs about the Metatron’s clothes. The motif on his tie isn’t just a quatrefoil. It’s in a square, and it has a cross inside it. I haven’t been able to find out what that could mean symbolically yet, but it’s surely not random. The other motif is a circle with a point (dot) in it, which is included in the “runes” in heaven, and is old af. Often means ‘sun’. His overcoat has a beige tartan lining too, but it seems very plain (just thin stripes). I’ve got some dodgy screen shots, which I can post on dc if I get motivated

Derek Jacobi is a marvelous actor..The Metatron is a nasty piece of work

@Donnagata1409

19 күн бұрын

A Master... at acting.

Another great analysis! You always make me think. I do think the Metatron has his own agenda. Separating Crowley and Aziraphale is part of that. They are more powerful together. He has more control if they are apart. He is definitely using Crowley to manipulate Aziraphale. I think God is sitting back and just watching what happens right now. I agree that the problem is heaven and hell. It's like Crowley says they are toxic. What happens to earth and humans is just a game to win. Any angels and demons we have seen who have any power just want more power. The exception is Gabriel and Beelzebub in season 2 but neither of them really care about anything but getting what they want. Where Crowely and Aziraphale do care about everyone and everything. I did notice the Metatron sucking on something and it seemed weird to me. I had not thought that it could be so he is telling the truth about ingesting things. You always point out things I have not thought about. A "travel sweet" very interesting idea. Thanks for the analysis. I always love all of your vids. Looking forward to the next one. I am glad you are feeling better.

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I'm healing faster than I thought I would. I had noticed the metatron sucking on something, but I hadn't really thought about why, before. So many little details! I agree, most seem to want power, probably because they haven't even experienced anything really worth wanting.

What you said about the clothes made me realise something: by their mentalities and their clothes, Crowley, Aziraphale and Metatron seem to be mirroring Sherlock Holmes, Watson and Moriarty. Aziraphale is a simple person, he's smart but not a genius and he's mostly defined by his kindness. Plus, he's the narrator of the Edimburgh scene, like Watson is in the novels. Crowley is a really smart guy, he understands the world very well and he's really honest and kind, despite pretending to be mean and tricky. Also, his clothing is not particularly stylish, he's got long hair and that makes him similar to Holmes. Metatron is the complete opposite. He's well-dressed, well-mannered (at least, he seems to be) but this facade hides a cold and calculating psychopath who only wants things to go according to the plan. The only question is: what does he want? Is he the voice of God, the dogmatic servant willing to do anything to follow what he thinks is the Divine Plan or is he just trying to achieve his own goals and become the Master, especially in a show filled with DW references?

wait i need a whole 'gabriel transforming through jim' analysis from you now. you remain my favorite GO channel, thanks for all you do!

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

That's so nice of you to say, thank you! That one, Gabriel's transformation through Jim, has been floating around in my head for a while. I think you'll see it soon!

Aziraphale and Crowley have stopped the Apocalypse before, it’s naive to think these years Azi and Crow have been besties hanging out has gone unnoticed, together they will bring the great plan down again, getting Azi on his side fixes all of this, he can manipulate him and break Crowley all at the same time by separating them, he’s def evil villain

The Metratron broke Crowley and Azy up, so YES, he is very evil.

I'm so glad that we're moving on to discussions of dogma institutions and free will. Not that i don't live the romance but this is a really important message in the book/shows and important human questions. P.S. the travel sweet idea was brilliant 😂

There is this book series written by a polish author about angels and demons and a war brewing (though admittedly much less about Earth or humans). The premise is God has died and the highest archangels (Gabriel, Michael and Raphael) - and seraphs, though in the book seraphs are madness incarnate - are trying their best not to let anyone in Heaven nor Hell find out. The thing is, none of them have been created to handle the responsibilities this entails or be capable of ruling anything so the universe is literally falling apart at seams and slowly decaying. There is of course SO much more to the series than just this but this is the point I wanted to make. It does feel like Metatron COULD be trying his darned best to cover the fact that God isn't exactly interested or present anymore and since he was not made for it, he's having a diffuculty running the ship. You know? By the way, if the book sounds interesting to you, it's Siewca Wiatru by Maja Lidia Kossakowska (and Zbieracz Burz - the further books in series). I have zero idea if there are translations but I heavily hope there are because the books are GREAT. Angels aren't soft, sweet and good, they curse, smoke, keep friendships with demons (Asmodeus is an artsy guy, lemme tell you) and the war is very rough. There are thrones, mad seraphs and many other hosts and the main character is an outcast-by-design, a dude who never asked to be what he is and belongs nowhere. Siewca Wiatru means Sower of Wind and Zbieracz Burz means Reaper of Whirlwind/Storms which is pretty much a play on the "For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.”

@HuntingViolets

Ай бұрын

I'm not finding anything in English so far. It sounds very interesting, though!

Thank you for all of those amazing analysis ! About God, I think it's very hard to understand what's Her role in the story. She's depicted as a very mysterious character, playing an ineffable game of Her own device (and just smiling). We've seen Her interreact with other living beings before (twice) so we know She wasn't always "absent" : First time in the Garden (She asks Aziraphale about his sword) and a second time when She talks to Job What we get out of this two apparitions is that : 1.Either She didn't know about Aziraphale giving his sword to humans (seems pretty unlikely to me) but somehow kew it was missing or She knew everything but just decided to ask him anyway (Why ? Was that a warning, like "I saw what you did, I see _everything_ " ? Was it just to see how he would respond ? Did she do it for fun ? Is it just ineffable?..) 2. -She made a bet with Satan, She comunicated with Satan and She just let demons ruin Her favorite human's entiere life to see which one of Satan or Her had won a bet they made (And again, why ? What kinda game is She playing ?) -Also, She's very proud of whales (And there's probably a lot more to say but I suck at this) From what we've seen of Her, She's a very complex character, who seems to be doing whatever she wants. She isn't pictured as "Good", She makes some rules (like "you won't eat the apple from *this* tree I've put in the middle of the garden"), punishes people (humans, rebelious angels), appears to a human (her favorite human She let suffer purposely) to talk (more like brag) about whales, She doesn't really answer questions, and is acltually the one asking questions in the scene with Job. She also created the dinosaur fosils as an elaborate prank (I'm telling you it's ineffable) I would also like to say that in the book, in the end, after they stopped the Armageddon, Crowley says something very interesting. He says that if God can create a universe in 6 days, She had to be able to prevent any rebellion, which means She _let it_ happen purposely, he also says that it's weird how God just put a forbidden tree in the middle of the Garden, when She could have just made it way more difficult for anyone to go near that tree, and that it must have been part of Her plan. Crowley end up saying that everythig (like really everything) could be part of God's ineffable plan ; a test She would have made up to see if what She had created was working (Crowley ends up looking for a word to qualifie God's plan and it's Death themself who suggest him the word "ineffable", and right after Crowley and Aziraphale forget what they were talking about) That's just random thougts that I'm throwing here, sorry if it doesn't make any sense (or if I write like a 2 years old, english isn't my first language, so I'm doing my best, and it's not brillant)

@lulu480

Ай бұрын

I guess I like to keep it simple… at first. The Metaron is not mentioned much in the Bible but one of his descriptions is the scribe of god, recording the good and evil things people do (I think). So if he is the scribe of god, then he would be the closest being to god. I’m pretty sure he knew Crowley would never go and only said that to manipulate Aziraphale into returning to heaven. I also think he has no intention of giving Aziraphale responsibility for the second coming. And his entire purpose to get Aziraphale back to heaven and separate him from Crowley was because together they were too powerful. They could possibly have the power to cripple both heaven and hell. If god’s absent then it’s the Metatron’s job to maintain the “institutions “. I might be reading something into his expression in the elevator, but he looked very slightly relieved in the look he gave Aziraphale. Aziraphale’s return to assume the role of Gabriel, it will infuriate the other archangels and many others, I assume. It may become completely chaotic. Providing a way, I don’t know how, for Crowley and Aziraphale to prevent the second coming and allowing them to escape together. I often wonder, while watching GO, whether or not god is perfectly aware of everything that is going on and just doesn’t give a shit or if she is truly absent which would allow the Metatron to do what he must to prevent their “instutional problem”. So does that mean he is inherently evil or being manipulative because he believes he has to. Of course I think he’s evil whenever I think about those last 15 minutes. But is he?

@lulu480

Ай бұрын

Oh, and btw, I always look forward to your insightful analysis.

@HuntingViolets

Ай бұрын

It does seem that God interfered with their memories in the book when they started to get too close.

The travel sweet bit blew me off xD I'm not entirely convinced with the hypothesis that the Metatron had never been to Earth. He seems to find his way too easily and act too natural (e.g. during his interaction with Nina). Other than that - spot on!

@lulu480

Ай бұрын

He seems to be too familiar with earth not to have been here somewhere along the line.

@AziraleyLove

Ай бұрын

agreed!

Yay glad you're getting better!! Take care 😘. Excellent analysis, I had wondered if he could possibly be actually evil. I agree with you, he thinks he is right, but could try to destroy everything with that idea. It would be great if he had a huge character arc with Aziraphale doing whatever he'll do. I giggled at the thought of him pinching one of Aziraphale's travel sweets from the Bentley!!

AHH FRESH OFF THE PRESSES GOMENS VIDEO YESSSSS TY 🙏🙏

Am wondering why the Bentley would allow the Metatron to snitch one of Aziraphale's travel sweets...

Want to add: We HAVE seen matter miracled in S1-the bike rack Aziraphale provided for Anathema’s bicycle, and the new gears of the bike. Glad the injury is healing and found the analysis totally satisfying!

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Ah! Good spot! Yeah, it's a soft magic system. It kind of does what they need it do, lol

YESSSSS new video!!! love it already, thank you for your work 🤍🤍🤍

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Happy to oblige!

For some reason I'd personally like to see the Metatron going down with the sinking ship of heaven- and by extension: Heaven and Hell getting destroyed as we know it, changed from the core and all that

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Not everyone changes, and I agree, that could be satisfying to see!

Ahhhhh! Another great analysis. I love how your brain sees all those levels of meaning in the Ordinary. Yes! The Metatron TOTALLY swiped a "travel sweet" out of Crowley's car.😋 Kinda makes you wonder how long he was lingering outside (maybe looking through the bookshop's windows?) before heading off to the coffee shop.🤔 I think God is presently giving the Metatron enough rope to hang himself - he has gotten WAY above his station (supposedly the celestial scribe to the Book of Life, along with being allowed to be in God's presence) and is drunk with power. And I agree with your earlier video - he will end up being defeated, because he has no concept of love, especially of the love between an angel and a demon.💞

This is a fantastic analysis. I love the list of clues. And I hadn't realised before that the Metatron echoes the Wizard of Oz as the floating head trying to manipulate people into believing in him - mind blown! I'm not sure the Metatron functions as a typical villain in the GO storyline because he isn't present for very much of each season. I think you're right that the institutions of heaven and hell are the real villains because their impact causes such fear and division.

I've been thinking for a while that God has disappeared, maybe to create another universe? I hope she'll be back for S3 with an explanation. She certainly owes us all a big one! I love these deep dives! Please keep doing them as long as you keep thinking of topics!

One thing about the Metatron that sticks out to me is that he seems... very knowledgeable and insightful about things and people. I don't know if this was meant to be his first visit to Earth, but if it was, his ability to adapt would have to be extremely impressive (contrast his visit with Muriel's complete ignorance or even Gabriel's lack of awareness after having been seen on Earth many times over the years). The Metatron shows up on Earth and immediately orders a coffee with almond syrup, and straight-up tells Nina, of course no one chooses death. So "predictable." He also seems to know what makes Aziraphale and Crowley tick, and uses those things to his advantage. He knows how to look normal and fit in with people, at least well enough at the surface level. We know angels aren't meant to be omnipotent --- otherwise, Crowley and Aziraphale wouldn't have been able to get away with their arrangement for so many years. But it makes me wonder exactly how much the Metatron has seen and how much he knows. Because for him to be as successful at manipulation as he is I think really requires him to have a certain amount of knowledge and wisdom that most angels and demons simply do not. It also requires him to have an understanding of Aziraphale and Crowley and their relationship that others do not. Aziraphale understands as of the end of season 1 that the "great plan" and God's "ineffable plan" are not necessarily the same. He knows none of the other angels actually know what God's plan is, meaning he has been able to keep his faith intact despite his ability to acknowledge Heaven's problems. And I think, because the Metatron casts himself as God's representative, Aziraphale is then tempted to give the Metatron the benefit of the doubt or at least believe he may know more of what's going on than anyone else does. I'm not convinced though that he does. I don't think God is talking to the Metatron either, and he's either just doing what he wants or what he believes God would want.

@mscatmoon

Ай бұрын

Yes, this. How much the Metatron seems to know about A & C and *exactly* how to manipulate them make me highly uncomfortable. Heck, he seems to understand human, angel, and demon nature better than the Beings who've spend 6,000 years on Earth among humans. He definitely has an agenda. I'm just hoping that with all his devious expertise he also makes the mistake of underestimating A & C in a major way that causes his downfall.

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

That is an excellent point! I hadn't really thought if it, but angels like Muriel can't pull off simple deception, but the metatron sure can!

on the metatron's clothing: i always thought it was intended to blend in. to be fair, when i was first watching after the show dropped, i was very sleep deprived since it was early in the morning and i ended up not even recognizing it was the metatron at all until we were told by crowley --- but ive always believed thats the exact response he wanted in the first place. his clothing makes him appear extremely typical for such a high-ranking individual.

Glad you are ok. 😻 This whole line of thinking is very good, and am glad you are addressing it for us, some things I had not considered

God is looking a bit like the GOP in the US. Things are approaching a crisis and the boss buggers off.

Does this mean the Metatron bullied The Bentley into handing over a travel sweet? Crowley would have quite the rant about it. Would Crowley be able to tell if the Metatron breeched the confines of his beloved vehicle? So much has to happen in s3. It will be an interesting watch for sure. I hope Mr. Gaiman is handling the stress well. ❤

@lulu480

Ай бұрын

I think it’s a stretch to think he might have got the sweet from the Bentley. He is a powerful Angel; he could easily create something out of nothing. But I didn’t even notice he was sucking on anything until sendarya suggested it. I have watched this so many times (it’s the one thing that makes me happy, except the last 15 minutes of S2, while coping with an emotional roller coaster I’ve been on post COVID which was such a mild case I didn’t believe I was positive!). So I very much appreciate what careful analysis happens here. I was just thinking that sweets pop up in quite a few places… like the bottom of the shaft where the nuclear reactor had been… or whatever it was that was missing. Probably all a coincidence but given the clever writing Neil has done, you never know.

@marzettik

Ай бұрын

@lulu480 Yes, lemon drops seem to be a sweet favorite for the show, lol.

Thank you for another great analysis! So happy when I saw this pop up. GO still inhabits a good portion of my brain and love your theories based on tidbits that have escaped my observation. Sorry for your injury but you sound like you are pretty much ‘back.’ Take care …looking forward to even more of your theories & analyses. ❤

Please do a video on lies in good omens. I'm very interested to see an analysis add comprehensive list of all the lies Aziraphale tells well believing himself to be innocent and on the side of heaven. I have a feeling he wraps up more than Crowley. I love that as soon as you said fresh from the lift in reference to where he could have gotten a hard candy, I know exactly where this convo was going. Thank you for all the beautiful content. Even if it takes a little bit for me to keep up. I was so glad that in an earlier video you pointed out that this is a special time for a fandom, and that we will look back on it favorably in the future. It is so easy to get caught up in impatience. And that's where I find myself often, so thank you for making this in between seasons not only tolerable but special.. I agree I hope prime doesn't dump the whole season at once, what makes episodes available gradually. Yet even if they are available all at the same time I will watch on whatever schedule the fandom decides. We should do this together.

@Sendarya

21 күн бұрын

Together! ❤️ Thank you

just so you know in future...pronounced.. Jack -o- bee 😊

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Names always get me, lol

I don't know if it was already mentioned but there is a box of hard candies behind the bench where Azy and the Metatron sit.. Couldn't it come from there?

17:09 he could have grabbed some candy from that dispenser, I do like the travel sweet more than that though

@Sendarya

21 күн бұрын

Haha, true! I don't know that we see that set piece in the show, but it's there somewhere!

The Metatron gives the vibes of a fundamentalist to me.

The truth isn't the same as absolute clarity - in a sense, the Metatron's phrasing of the truth is the kind of phrasing you want to avoid using on a genie. While the demons in general, and, to an extent, Crowley, *know* they are evil - because, well, they're fallen, right? That's the logic! Gotta be evil, they're in Hell! - the angels very much believe they couldn't be evil, cause they're the Good Guys! How could they possibly be bad? Most on either side would find Crowley and Aziraphale's Shades of Grey *inconceivable*. Some people are so firm in their belief that they're in the right, that anything which opposes them must, therefore, be bad. Some people are so stuck in this position that, much like a certain brand of Evangelicals, they loose sight at what The Point was. The Metatron thinks he knows what he should be doing, he's very convinced of it. What I find interesting, both in the novel, S1, and the run-up to S3, is that they all seem to forget a little thing written in the Acts of the Apostles; where Jesus tells the apostles, “It is not yours to know the times or the moments, which the Father has set by his own authority." Generally, the belief is that ONLY God knows the time or the place of the Second Coming. The Apocalypse was averted. Things end up following the Ineffable Plan after all - and whatever that is, the Metatron definitely doesn't know. I hope Aziraphale is reminded of that.

YOU NOTICING THE SUCKING IS SO IMPRESSIVE ILY FOR POINTING THAT OUT

For me, it's really significant that Crowley is the first one to recognise the Metatron in the bookshop, but for some reason, doesn't seem to be wary of him or suspicious. He even kind if gives Aziraphale the green light to go outside for his little chat with the Metatron 'After all, this day can't get any weirder!' Yet, there is that awful look Metatron gives Crowley on his way out, that suggests some bad past history between them, supported by his later comment to Aziraphale : 'Always did want to go his own way.' I think the offer to make Crowley an angel again is false: he knew Crowley would turn it down, and I think his motive is certainly to split up Crowley and Aziraphale. So why, isn't Crowley more suspicious of him? He's seen Gabriel's trial, and how ruthless the Metatron has been, having Gabriel's memory wiped. So why is he OK with his angel going off for a private chat with the Metatron? Any thoughts? Sorry you had a nasty accident - why do these things happen? Must be ineffable. Glad you're on the mend now, and thanks for this video - as ever, full of neat insights, and excellent questions!

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

It is, indeed, ineffable! 😅

@AutistineDaae

Ай бұрын

My personal theory about that is that Crowley knows he can't stop the Metatrash from dragging Azi off for that conversation (he is pretty close to all-powerful, after all). I think also he knew there was a good chance he and Azi wouldn't be left alone to be safe together, so Metatrash popping up wasn't a surprise :(

Oooo i was thinking this tbh. Intresting......

Sorry to hear about your injury - I hope your ankle recovers quickly. Take all the rest you need!

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much, it's healing well!

So sorry about your ankle. I really hope it wasn't too bad a break and putting it in plaster will sort it. My friend broke his and had to have an operation, so I know how bad it can be. Either way, I'm glad to hear it's on its way to being sorted now. ❤ So the Metatron stole the travel sweet from the Bentley, is that what you are saying? Does this possibly have a significance for Season 3? Sorry I am being thick, I can't see it. Thank you for this and all your videos, you are amazing! ❤

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

I was a bit afraid to say outright, but will clarify for everyone in my next video. But yeah, I started to wonder if the Metatron put A Nightingale Sings in Berkeley Square on the radio.....see, it's loony??? lol Thank you about the ankle. It was a minor break of a major bone. Healing well. :)

This is great. I hadn't noticed details like his tie and how he uses language and his manner. I think the Britishisms are more an indication of class and age. He is bonding with Aziraphale as he is of a class, type (creative, aesthetic) and age to use those expressions. I do know some young people who might use some of those expressions, but only if they're very posh, properly so. But in that older demographic it would be more common and more middle class. I do love that he might have nicked the sweet from the Bentley lol.

Metraton: THE VILLAIN So, I don't know whether it's too much to ask, but could you please make a video explaining all the themes that the series represents ?

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Isn't that what I'm doing? lol Slowly.... Do you mean to just list the themes? Because it takes a long time to explore each one.

@_Mahh.C.Silva_

Ай бұрын

Sorry, yes, yes, you're right. But I meant as a list, because I think it may be a good series to write about in an essay, it's a serie that one of the main themes is religion ( in my opinion ) and you need to understand what the show is about

I think it was a sherbet lemon - in the Good Omens universe, sherbet lemons appear in the oddest places, including nuclear reactors... and possibly Archangel's pockets? 🙃

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

What an interesting idea!! Yes, Adam put one in place of the nuclear reactor. Do you think Adam somehow got one to the metatron? Also, are the travel sweets in the Bentley sherbet lemons? Great idea, I love it!

@theethereal1

Ай бұрын

The travel sweets do look quite different from the sherbet lemons of season 1 but maybe they still count as sherbet lemons? I can't be sure if it was Adam who planted one in the Metatron's pocket - although Neil and Terry came up with the title for a Good Omens book sequel - "668: The Neighbor of the Beast" - so it's plausible that Adam has a part to play in the sequel (and therefore in season 3). That would be lovely to come full circle to the end of the series with a sherbet lemon!

Taking your far, far, out theory a step further into the farthest reaches of "out there": If The Metatron pilfered a travel sweet from the Bentley, is he also responsible for the Nightingale song playing?

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Yes, exactly! I was to chicken to ask it, but that is the question, isn't it??

@erykaton170

Ай бұрын

@@Sendarya The most challenging part of theorizing for this show is that always, lurking somewhere, is an omnipotent, omniscient being who can do whatever they want, whenever they want, independent from all the known, and unknown characters, their actions and situations. So the answer to "Who played the song in the Bentley, and why?" Could be Crowley ( as a romantic plan for Aziraphale), the Bentley (as a romantic nod to Crowley and Aziraphale, or a sympathetic question to Crowley, or an attempt to comfort a devastated Crowley), Aziraphale ( as a message to Crowley, for comfort, or from devastation, or to say "We're still US!), the Metatron (because he's a cruel bastard, twisting the knife in the demon he just scowled at; or is he sympathetic to the pain, despite all evidence to the contrary?), an accidental play (from either Crowley or Aziraphale's prior radio usage in the car), or is it God (working in mysterious ways and not telling anybody anything)!

Please, never stop doing these videos!! I love to hear your analysis

Lots of food for thought. Thank you for bringing up all these ideas, as always, and glad you're on the mend. I think Metatron is THE institutional problem, along with the other archangels...all the higher ups. They don't want to get in trouble when things go pear shaped and will do whatever to put the blame on someone else. There's a lot of jockeying for power, certainly...except for poor Muriel who hasn't got a clue and is more interested in finding out about humanity and how it works.

So so good to see another analysis video, I've really missed them! Thank you 😊

I'm so excited that i get to watch one of your vids on my birthday - it's the perfect gift, haha! ^^ I wish you a wonderful weekend!!

I had not heard about your injury. But I am glad you took your time to heal and than came up with another thought-provoking video. I am glad you fought the invented ninjas of!

I have always thought his clothes are a copy from Aziraphale´s, he studied what Azira weres so he can gain his favor. Of course is not an exact copy, but definetly more similiar than the rest of angels vestiments

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Interesting, I hadn't considered that!

Blather on girl! Always most enjoyable and thanks. I love that Michael based much of Aziraphale on early D Jacobi characters. I'd ride along with the marching-to-god's-plan theory but the metatron really seems to hate Crowley from a personal, not programmatic, core so I wonder what that is all about. Plus his enormous relief in being able to hit the H button with Azi in the elevator also seems personal ... I wonder where the fear and loathing comes from. I know I know...wait and see ("do you know how irritating THAT is?!?!?!") Re social media - looks like the Sheen's went to Disneyland-Paris on Michael's days off...and the Tennants to Disneyland (LA) Glad you are less gimpy. Theme traveling!

I was really looking forward to this video because my vision of the Metatron is/was completely different. I still don't know if I changed my mind but your video makes me think a lot. For me, the Metatron was misjudged and there are so many questions about him. First thing: what the hell is he doing on Earth? Why would he save Aziraphale? And more importantly, why would he propose Aziraphale to be the next Supreme Archangel? Azi is naive, yes but I'm sure he is not the most naive of all the angels. So why him? And the second thing that I found odd is his dark glance at Crowley. Alright, he doesn't seem to like him but why would he show that at that moment? Was it for the audience to understand his feelings about the demon, or was it a sort of a threat/warning to Crowley, or a hiding message? When no angels could guess who he was, he directly asked Crowley, and the only demon in the room was the only one who got the answer. WTF? Yes, he saw his big head a few minutes ago in Heaven but just like Muriel and Saraquiel. So why Crowley was the only one who recognized him? And Aziraphale was the second who guessed but we know that the last time he saw the Metatron was 4 years ago, while the other angels saw him at Gabriel's trial. Yes, I have many questions. But in the facts, the Metatron never did anything bad or wrong. Yes in season 1 he followed the Great Plan and thought just like the other angels (or demons) that the Great must happen to win it. But in season two, when we are looking at the facts: he saved Azirphale! And he offered the opportunity to restore Crowley to his full angelic status. And after the discussion, he says to Aziraphale "You don't have to answer now, take all the time you need". Time, Aziraphale didn't really use. As you said in your video, it could be a manipulation, yes. But I don't see where it's not a choice. He offered him an opportunity. He didn't force him to say yes, it was a conversation. He needed to be persuasive, of course. He came to Earth for that proposal. But I can't see where he threatened him. It was just a discussion. I'm not saying he didn't manipulate Azi or that he is telling the truth. I'm just saying that I can't see any prooves of any kind of pure manipulation. It can be what the Metatron really thinks. He can be honest. (I'm not saying he is). But your argument about Britishisms is really interesting. Because he really looks like Aziraphale when he uses those words and the fact that we never see him pronounce those words before means something. Thank you for your videos it's always amazing. It made me realise so many things so thank you for that! And I'm so sorry for your injury I hope it's ok now! (Sorry for my english I hope you understood what I meant)

@AutistineDaae

Ай бұрын

I think Aziraphale knows he has to do whatever the Metatron asks. If he doesn't, he has the power to wipe him out of existence. You don't say know to the second- (or third-) most-powerful being in the universe.

@laureneaidan1101

Ай бұрын

@@AutistineDaae he said "no" twice to the Metatron. He said no when he ask for a conversation, but he gave him the coffee and suddenly changed his mind (weird) and he said no first when the Metatron propose him to join Heaven. "I don't want to go back to Heaven, where do I'll get my coffee!" So I don't think he was scared to say no to the Metatron

@AziraleyLove

Ай бұрын

Good point! He DID save Aziraphale!

'Jack-obi'

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! It's healing really well so far. It'll just take time, hopefully

I like you theories so much.

Hot take: I don't think the Metatron has anything in his mouth. Old people do such moves with their mouths all the time, it's like a tic that can't be controlled. I haven't noticed Derek doing it yet, but then I haven' noticed it in the episode until you pointed it out...

Is a "Jigger" really a Britishism? As a Briton, I thought it was a US invention: the measuring cup for creating a cocktail (or other mixing drinks) - and as such is often in use in coffee shops to measure added liquids. I suppose 'hefty jigger' may be more a British eccentricity, it sounds directly out of PG Wodehouse (Jeeves & Wooster), although he may have picked that up from New York...

@HuntingViolets

Ай бұрын

They have jigger as a measurement in both the U.S. and England. It is not the same measurement in both. I looked this up at the time after watching the episode. I think Wikipedia had a good rundown on it.

@schubertuk

Ай бұрын

@@HuntingViolets Thanks - the Wikipedia page seems it's usual good self! I think the major reason the UK & US differ in measures is because of the metric system getting rolled-out to the restaurant/bar sector in the late 1980s(? my date may be wrong). Before that my grandad definitely had a jigger that was fluid oz as per US. Plus Wiki confirms my suspicion that Jigger originates as a US term - not a Britishism - in this case. When it comes to cocktails, the UK looks to the US! ;-)

@HuntingViolets

Ай бұрын

@@schubertukYes -- the U.S. keeps what used to be the English system of measurement after the UK has moved on. I do kind of prefer the pounds and feet for people at least. Easier for me to wrap my head around 6 feet tall, etc. We seem to mix it up for bottles of pop too.

As always super interesting!

I love these deep dive analyses! Has anyone done one on Michael’s odd behaviour in season 2? When Uriel is annotating Muriel’s report with comments like “the traitor” and “the demon”, Michael seems annoyed/frustrated in a different way than they were frustrated with Uriel about who’s in charge. Additionally, when Muriel says “I didn’t listen, they said it was private!” Michael has a moment of leaning back, bouncing both fists lightly on the table and *smiling* in a way that doesn’t feel like a cover to annoyance. Why would Michael care if Muriel knew they were annoyed at them? I just have trouble believing that smile was meant as some kind of patronizing tolerance of Muriel…it seems almost like relief to me.

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Interesting observations about Michael! I'll have to add that to my list.

Great breakdown of everything Metatron! Picked up a couple I missed before so thanks! I never noticed the travel sweet thing myself. But I always assumed that Crowley sleeps in the Bentley because he's afraid of angels coming in the shop when he's asleep upstairs. The Bentley must be warded to protect him from angels so he sleeps in it. If I'm right, how does the Metatron reach in and get a travel sweet from inside a demon's car? Derek Jacobi appeared many years ago in a film called Mr Pye where his character grew demon horns, so he has technically been on the 'other side'. That film is here on YT. He is one of the most living distinguished stage and film actors in the UK. Just a side note: His name is usually pronounced Jack-a-bee.

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

It is possible that the Bentley is Warded. He sleeps in it because he lost his flat, though. He used to sleep in the flat (there are even deleted scenes of this from season 1). Interesting about Mr Pye!

You make some good points. Most of the characters have not really been exclusively good or evil. They all seem to exist in shades of gray; although, some are more dogmatic in following their "orders" than others are. I think it's reasonable to assume that the Metatron exists in the gray area as well; as an entity that is not purely evil, but certainly not purely good either (perhaps more one than the other).

What? You mean the Metatron broke into Crowleys car? 😮 but wouldn't Crowley feel that?🤔

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Probably, but that's why it's really, really really far out there! A kooky idea, lol. That being said, Crowley was just a teensy bit distracted by the demons, and Gabriel's revelations. Heck, maybe he was still in heaven watching the "trial" when the metatron came down, and we know that distance does disconnect Crowley from feeling Aziraphale, so probably from feeling the Bentley, too.

@Miriam-eb2iu

Ай бұрын

@Sendarya ok, true .I can see that. 😊 thank you

I'd love to hear your thoughts on why Aziraphale fell for praise that could not be anymore inaccurate. Leader? How often does he rely on Crowley for solutions? Honest? Isn't he the only angel we've seen that intentionally lies? "Don't just tell people what they want to hear" he's excellent at flattery. My hope in season 3 is that Jesus is going to be dispensing normal advice and words of wisdom to Aziraphale when they're touri g around during the Second Coming. Then Aziraphale will learn to be more introspective and realize for himself he loves Crowley, the two will reconcile and the pair will have to find a way to stop Judgement Day. Who knows, maybe the two will inspire Jesus to rebel against God's Ineffable Plan ('cause the criteria is too strict or something)

@Sendarya

5 күн бұрын

What makes you think he fell for it, and isn't going along for other reasons entirely?

My jaw literally dropped at the part of "Was that a travel sweet?"😮😱 OMG if you are right about it, who knows what else the Metatron could have taken/put into Crowley's car...

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Exactly! What could this mean?!?

Great analysis! I’m interested in why the Metatron says that Aziraphale is a leader, is honest, and doesn’t just tell people what they want to hear. These are all patently false. Aziraphale is not leading anybody, and although he’s developed enough skepticism to recognize the problems with Heaven, it caused him to become a loner - he has not recruited anybody to share his view. He’s not honest - we’ve been observing his lies and evasions since the Garden of Eden, when he failed to answer a direct question from God about the sword. And he does largely tell people - at least his superiors in Heaven - what they want to hear. So why does the Metatron describe him in those terms while trying to recruit him? Is it precisely because those are false? Maybe the Metatron needs a follower in the supreme archangel position, not a leader, so he’ll do what he’s told? Perhaps he needs someone comfortable with dishonesty and telling people what they want to hear in order to be able to accomplish something needed for the Second Coming, perhaps something surreptitious?

@danawhicker2512

Ай бұрын

YES! THIS! 👍 This is why I feel that Aziraphale would not trust the Metatron or his offer, because Aziraphale would have no illusions about those things, and the Metatron seems to be too clever about Az to believe those things. It still could be that t M went out of his way to make the "ingested things" truthful: maybe there was an important reason not to lie to Az in front of Muriel/in front of Crowley/in his home/in the angelic embassy?

Oh em gee.. you got to the point of discussing what was the Metatron sucking on in line and I said to myself 'travel sweet'. Little did I know! 😄

Brilliant, as always! Thank you!

Another lovely video that I'm super grateful for and also, not to disagree with your theory, I was wondering if this is the Metatron's first visit to Earth as you put it, how did he know how the system works? I mean to stand in line for the coffee and order and everything? Why couldn't he just miracle it and as long as we're talking about standing in line, that loaded look he throws, is it about checking what's going in the bookshop?

I was so happy when I saw that you did a new video. 😊 And then I saw the titel, and I was like „of course he‘s the villain!?! 😤“ and then „but is he really 🧐“ and then „he must be 😢😩“ Great video as always. Hope you get well soon 😊🫶

I am really glad you and the dresser are ok lmao

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

One question on my mind is “why did god not narrate the second season?” It could entirely be because the actor could not be in it for whatever reason but I think there is something more to it… I have this feeling that maybe the events of season 2 were never supposed to happen and the second coming is not part of the plan. Maybe this is new to god and something that she has not planned? I have no idea but I could be entirely wrong 😅 What do you think?

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Interesting idea! Thank you for sharing that. I do intend to explore what's up with God in season 2 very soon, not next week but the following one

Though you make a good point that the Metatron shares a lot of similarities with other characters, both he and Gabriel being condescending, there is another difference. Gabriel is blunt about his motives. And he’s openly hostile. The metatron on the other hand is more sneaky about his motives. He comes across as accepting, the only one who appears to accept Aziraphale’s relationship with Crowley but, is manipulative once you analyze it. I do hope that The Metatron stays a villain. It could point out not everyone can change. And I think the Metatron would be the type who pretends to carry out God’s word but, is carrying out their own plans.

Okay so for a little while I thought maybe he was originally Enoch , and maybe he wanted the war because he could not be in the part of heaven souls go to when we die. So he was there dealing with annoying angels not hearing much from God, and not able to reconnect with his family. That made me a bit sad for him and not completely hate him. Neil said he was not ever a human though, so nope he is just evil and ruins everything.

Fun video

Waited for something like this for a long time. So. What I found marvellously interesting in Metatron is how "academically" well presented is. I mean, it is like Neil took a writing book, went to the "evil characters page" and used the last 20 minutes of s2 to follow all the steps. But. Evil is just an archetype, not a role. He occupies a more complex niche, role. For Crowley, it is exactly an antagonist. It is clearly stated, plus, Crowley has 2 goals (save humanity, and live peacefully): Metatron is challenging both. Clearly stated by how they look at each other. Crowley must explain to us why he doesn't recognize anyone but Metatron when nobody recognises him. But for Aziraphale? At the moment, he is only partially an antagonist. Az's goals are: to save humanity, and change heaven. Metatron is giving him the possibility to do the second one (let's for a moment forget about the threat, which is a problem just for his relationship with Crowley). So, Aziraphale is going along with Metatron as far as he can. And until the situation breaks, as it happened with Heaven in the past, Metatron will only be partially an antagonist. Let's also consider a fact. Metatron is the only angel who can use empathy (except for Az). It is absurd, but it is the reason why he can manipulate Az: he can understand him, or at least pretend. A dark kind of empathy, let's call as such. Az has a specific role: to protect humanity from the start, and it is something given by God herself. Are we sure that Metatron will thwart this aspect, or didn't consider it? Maybe, at the end of the day, we will know Neil fooled all of us and he was indeed the good guy.

Oh dear, I just had a terrible thought. What if an angel's memory can only be wiped if they're in heaven? That would give a very dark explanation to the Metatron's look of relief and Aziraphale's smile in the elevator. Season 3 could start with the Metatron introducing himself to Aziraphale and explaining his duties as a new angel. Aziraphale would happily commit the atrocious righteous acts in heaven's name, completely oblivious to the doubt and questioning that Crowley had inspired. Aziraphale would never remember Crowley before his fall, the look of wonder at his creations, and the utter heartbreak of it being a pointless 6000 year experiment. Thus, Aziraphale would never have any sympathy for Crowley, and given back his flaming sword, Aziraphale might even stab Crowley. Crowley, with pained breath, would lean forward for a last kiss, and forgive him. Aziraphale would then remember who he was and what he'd just done, but it was too late. It's always too late. Until Crowley's crank falls to the floor...

@laurawelsandt9072

Ай бұрын

Oh dear indeed.😮😢

@clarestubbs9303

Ай бұрын

That is amazing and bloody heartbreaking...Thank somebody you've said it, coz now Neil can't use it! PHEW! 😂 Out of interest, what would happen when his crank hits the floor? Would time just stop? (as we saw in season 1 at the airfield) Or could it rewind time, so that Azi gets his memory back before stabbing him and Crowley doesn't die? Can you PLEASE write this as a fic? I don't think that I could do it justice. ❤

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

It is one of the theories about the final smile. Is it a memory wipe taking effect? Neil can use any idea, if he's never read it, lol

@hotlavatube

Ай бұрын

@@clarestubbs9303 Well Crowley has used the crank to control time before, once to kick off the universe, and again to restart time. It hasn't been shown to have the ability to stop or reverse time, but you never know. Perhaps at the climax when Crowley is mortally wounded, when Aziraphale gets his memory back, he must choose between saving Crowley or going against god's plan and saving humanity. Perhaps jeebus is walking to the portal, and once he crosses it, the second coming will be unstoppable. I think, in that moment, Aziraphale would finally choose Crowley. The universe project would be wrapped up and shut down. The heavens, the earth, gone. The humans all raptured. The ineffable plan is over, but they are together, in an empty void. Then Crowley reveals "You know, I still have the plans to the universe, we could crank it up again." "A giant empty universe? What would be the point..." "It doesn't have to be empty." (Crowley resurrects that couple from the coffee shop) "That was a 2 Lazeri miracle..." (Aziraphale ponders this seriously) "When we combined powers to make the tiniest possible miracle, we made a 25 Lazeri miracle by accident..." "What if... we really try for a major miracle, one with all our heart for the love of this planet and it's people... We could certainly do better than 25 Lazeri... Maybe even... say... 8.1 billion Lazeri?" "That much miraculous energy flowing through us would destroy us..." "Have faith..." (takes his hand)

@meganexelby1062

Ай бұрын

​@@hotlavatubethis is a fanfic i NEED TO READ!

The Metatron, allegedly, is the voice of god. Yet, we (the viewers) only hear her in the voice overs. There is no indication that the Metatron is speaking on behalf of god or in her words. But, since she is playing the part of an omniscient narrator, I'm assuming she is "in the loop" of what everyone does, the Metatron included. No one has questioned the authority of the Metatron, but maybe we should. Maybe we should question whose interests he's protecting. It might not be god's. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." What won't he do to get what he wants?

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

What is it you are speculating that he wants? I'm very curious! I think everyone should question authority, and not just take it on faith. A good message!

@19mollyB93

Ай бұрын

@@Sendarya Are not Crowley and Aziraphale the greater threats to Heaven and Hell? Neither Head Office could erase Crowley and Aziraphale from the Book of Life. Neither could discourage their allegiance to one another. Yet, in two brief appearances, the Metatron meddles to do just that. He fails to close the gateway in season 1, resulting in a discorporated Aziraphale whom Crowley mourns for dead. In his brief appearance at the end of season 2, the Metatron' finally succeeds in separating the two old friends by trickery. Why? Why is it important? What does the Metatron hope to gain? What is the Metatron's agenda? Is it the same as God's? if so, why did She tolerate all of Crowley and Aziraphale's shenanigans over the millennia? Gabriel's "leadership" was risible. He's the bad boss. But the Metatron? He's terrifying. He forcibly bends those he uses to his will. And I don't think it's the will of God.

@meganexelby1062

Ай бұрын

​@@19mollyB93 which makes me wonder why we heard none of God's voiceovers in S2. Was it a creative choice, or meant to mean something? I think its all related: metatron becoming more meddlesome, more 'evil', and God being AWOL... Idk?

I'm not saying the following is at all likely, but I do think this would be a twist worthy of the body swap reveal at the end of s1: The Metatron ends up being a flawed hero rather than a villain. He actually wants to stop the Second Coming. He does manipulate A, but it's because he was desperate to separate A and C and get A to heaven because a) some rogue archangels or angels and demons combined have seized power and somehow killed or silenced God, which is why no one has heard from her in eons b) He really does need A's intelligence, innocence, and integrity to fight them and protect earth and c) he has some partial knowledge or suspicion (maybe a unique-to-him ability to see possible futures?) that having them both in Heaven at the same time will somehow cause rather than prevent the Second Coming. For example, maybe it's critical that Crowley is on earth to...I don't know, lead an army? Protect humans?

I can't wait for season 3 😭😭😭

Hope he stays an antagonist but picks up a habit of eating travel sweets

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

A villain with a sweet tooth? Earthly delights seem to have an influence on occult beings.

Maybe villain is the wrong term, but he's certainly an antagonist.

Great theories. I feel like Metatron is not THE villain but is trying to "fake it till he makes it" while God is silent. I theorize that God is testing the angel's reaction to free will. The archangels are stubbornly resistant.

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Interesting idea! That makes sense

@AutistineDaae

Ай бұрын

There actually is a line in the book where Crowley says "what if all this is a test of you people, too?" to the Metatron (replaced with Gabirle in that scene in S1) and Beelzebub! :)

I enjoy your thoughts even if I don't agree with all of them. I must point out a minor error though, a gigolo is certainly not a toy boy!

Yes. Now I'll watch the video 😊

100% agree with every word.

My current theory on why Aziraphale would be needed for the Second Coming would be, in part, because of his understanding of prophecies. I mean, technically speaking, the antichrist never came and had his reign, which should have started off the events to lead up to the Second Coming in the Christian mythos. What if the Book of Life was mentioned in this series because edits need to be made to it, and history, in order to find a loophole that would allow them to kind of *force* the Second Coming. I mean, if it is following the idea of Christ returning, surely the only way they would be able to choose when that happens would be to somehow force it. Else they'd just go and ask Him to do it. Right?

I hope this theory is true. It’s a poetic way to show how much harm you can cause when you claim to speak for God. Too bad real life people who claim to speak for God today probably won’t watch this series and learn the lesson.

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

Yes, exactly. Dogmatism combined with a feeling of divine authority is not a good mix. Very dangerous

@AutistineDaae

Ай бұрын

This message is one of my favorite things about the series (as I interpret it rn)! I really, really hope that one of the ultimate messages of the show overall turns out to be "people who claim to speak for God are dangerous!"

My thoughts are that the Metatron deliberately separated the two as they are too powerful together and could be a genuine risk to God's plans for earth.

@Sendarya

Ай бұрын

I completely agree!

Something just occurred to me in this vein and that is "the ineffability of the Pope". There's a lot of confusion and misinformation about what that really means and I don't think any theologian (not even the Catholic Church) can explain it satisfactorily. I wonder if that confusion and misinformation could also be attributed to Metatron. The Pope is Christ's representative on Earth and Metatron is the voice of God in Heaven...similar jobs. As a former Catholic, I had a lot of the same questions Good Omens raises. I came to the conclusion that there can be no right/wrong answers with them because they're always changing the rules anyway...usually to suit their needs at the time or to satisfy public trends and opinions.

Yes! It’s the system! In fact, the Metatron’s ability to be deceptive while telling the technical truth is a characteristic of Aziraphale. I mean every time he does it the audience comments on how terrible he is at lying, but he always misdirects the people he needs to, and the one time he outright lies, he’s actually pretty good at it. I think part of the resolution of all of this is going to be angels and demons finally “getting it.” That maybe God got something wrong in her design for angels and tried to make humans as a sort of blueprint for angels to follow in order to understand morality and free will, and Crowley has kind of got there… Aziraphale, and now Jim and Beelzebub are all close. God’s just off in the wings waiting for this idea to finally sink in.

Without even watching the video yes 100% he's pure freakin' evil. He orchestrated Crowley and Aziraphale's break up on purpose because he knew how desperate Aziraphale was to be accepted by the other angels and how much Crowley despised them and would never agree to return. I also think he knows they're soulmates and their love for each other makes any "magic" they do together incredibly powerful meaning they could probably stop the second coming if they worked together and concentrated on doing a miracle vs how they did things with the antichrist.

This has been another therapy video. The Metatron's behaviour reminds me a lot of my father, christian pastor, when he tries to approach me and convince me to repent from the sin of hOmOsExuAliTY. Understanding my dad as the Metatron in the sense that maybe he just thinks that is his job to do that gives me another dimension... So funny the travel sweet btw hashshah, a joke like that only can be made with deep knowledge of the show hahahaha Glad you're better from the injury. Thanks for another amazing video!