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@michaelahern6821

3 жыл бұрын

Why do you ruin a great channel with these annoying adds...every last one of your documentaries are infested with these excruciating adds ....that's why we go to you tube to avoid them unfortunately you lot can't resist them...,,,??? You surely dont need them.....

@orvilleteodosio163

3 жыл бұрын

Ttþttþþtttþttttttttttttttttt5tþ

@danielheil4737

3 жыл бұрын

Yiuihohiyihyiihihihihiyyiihyiihyiihiihiihiiiihyihiiihyihihyihiiihihy

@JMMayer

3 жыл бұрын

So HEINRICH SCHLIEMANN WAS NOT THE LAST WHO FOUND TROY. NEED TO READ THE ILIAD AGAIN. I GOT A NEW PASSPORT & THE REAL I.D BUT @ 80 I AM THRU YRAVELING.

@klyanadkmorr

3 жыл бұрын

Just because a fabulous story is made of a real situation doesn't mean the situation never happened. Like the Hatfields & McCoys or recent things blown out of proportion. A rich amazing city in ancient days could mean something the size of a developed county town in the Midwest of USA vs the huts & shanties of the regular Bronze Age villages.

I suggest people watch the 1985 production by Michael Wood, 'In Search of the Trojan War'. It is just plain brilliant

People 1000 years after us will be really lucky to explore 1000 years old history on the internet. Imagine if we could.

@David-sk9vv

Жыл бұрын

Have we achieved anything worthy of being studied in 1000 years!?

@qombatmaniac

Жыл бұрын

Internet in itself is probably the biggest achievement and there are many more

"If they ever tell my story, let them say I walked with giants. Men rise and fall like the winter wheat, but these names will never die. Let them say I lived in the time of Hector tamer of horses. Let them say, I lived in the time of Achilles." Although Troy was not the greatest movie ever made nor was it in accurate retelling of the Iliad, this is a great quote and most likely something Odysseus would have said. And great documentary

Moral of the story is never except packages into your home that you Didn’t order.🚫📦

@nedlyest

3 жыл бұрын

But what about mystery seed boxes from china?

@SAnn-rf3oz

3 жыл бұрын

Good Answer!!

@DewitticusBrett

3 жыл бұрын

What if some low life from Atlantis came through and jacked their package?? Like what if the Trojans didn't have a RING doorbell to catch the thief?? No one will ever know.... 😳

@fazzxides8429

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@Sinsteel

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it's beware Greeks bearing gifts.

Nevermind the documentary. Let's hear what the real experts have to say in the comments.

@brovold72

5 жыл бұрын

ha ha everybody with their own flimsy modern tribalisms attempting to justify them through a Minoan war that may or may not have happened.

@bentminderrr210

5 жыл бұрын

yeah

@gladius881

5 жыл бұрын

Funny AF rite there now

@azazelzel6954

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a lot of othodox, stale BS to me

@nomadnebirir4708

5 жыл бұрын

Hehe. Did that and found your comment first

l am happy to know that the city of troy was real so that the legend can live on in the hearts of people that travel there to see

@undeadsniperrr4455

4 жыл бұрын

arthur nas this is the whitest thing I’ve read all week

Who else is here because they enjoy mythology

@boffeycn

4 жыл бұрын

It isn't about the bible.

@vCLOWNSHOESv

4 жыл бұрын

I'm honestly here because of the movie "Troy" and how such a great story had to come from at least some real history.

@itsbabyrod2273

4 жыл бұрын

instead reading bedtime stories, my parents told me these kind of stories when i was a kid. maybe thats why im watching it😂

@LeeNA005

4 жыл бұрын

*sweat drops* this is why i hate social studies

@vanessagiosi85

4 жыл бұрын

@@boffeycn What has to the History with the religion?

The burial place of Achilles, the greatest hero of the Trojan War, has intrigued travelers for thousands of years. In the 4th century BCE, nearly 800 years after the conflict that inspired Homer's epic tale, Alexander the Great made a pilgrimage to the tomb at the start of his Asian Campaign. Here is a quote from Plutarch, one of the key sources on the campaigns of Alexander: "Once arrived in Asia, he (Alexander) went up to Troy, sacrificed to Athena and poured libations to the heroes of the Greek army. He smeared himself with oil and ran a race naked with his companions, as the custom is, and then crowned with a wreath the column which marks the grave of Achilles; he also remarked that Achilles was happy in having found a faithful friend while he lived and a great poet to sing of his deeds after his death" (Life of Alexander. The Roman Emperor Julian claimed to have visited the tomb at Troy in the 4th century AD. In the 15th century AD, some 1,700 years after Alexander's famous visit, another prolific warrior - Mehmed II, an Ottoman sultan who conqueror Constantinople at the age of 21 - also stopped at the tomb to pay his respects. But in modern times, historians and archaeologists have struggled to follow in the steps of Alexander and the many other ancient admirers of Achilles. The tomb has been lost.

@gold333

4 жыл бұрын

ANTONIO FAMA read Strabo’s report on the conflict between locals in the 2nd century regarding the tomb of Akhillauos. The disagreement whether it was at the Achilleion or the Sigeion I believe.

@zarni000

4 жыл бұрын

Supposed tomb. Not only is it questionable the tomb existed but it's even more questionable Achilles existed. This is all based on a myth. Remember Achilles was supposedly son of zeus....enough said...

@ektwrasxios

4 жыл бұрын

@@zarni000 he was not son of Zeus, he was the son of Thetis and a mortal king named Pileas

@zarni000

4 жыл бұрын

@@ektwrasxios first of all you need to replace "he was" with "he was said to be" as it's all mythology. Sea nymph or God of whatever who cares. You missed the point here.

@markskyscraper8092

4 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid this whole rats nest of fiction, apparently, is like looking for old west sites based on the movie the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. That old cemetery, I think its in Texas, I know Arch Stanton was from there and Blondie was from San Diego.

The real thing is that.. After thousands of years, still their names exists Achilles, Agmamnon, Hellen etc

@nikosgrigorakos

3 жыл бұрын

@Gerrit Peacock That's why it is called mythology (from the Greek word mythos for the story of the-people.

@TheLittledikkins

3 жыл бұрын

@Gerrit Peacock My view is that the Illiad is more what we today would call Historical Fiction. What we know of for sure, thanks to the latest finds is that during the Bronze Age Collapse a magnificent city was destroyed in a war. That collapse ushered in a dark age where even literacy was lost for centuries.

@DewitticusBrett

3 жыл бұрын

Names truly echo through the halls of eternity. 👍

@DewitticusBrett

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikosgrigorakos from the sound of your last name.... I'm going to guess you descend from the Mediterranean area... possibly... Greece? Macedonia???

@towelkeeper

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLittledikkins Perhaps not unlike Shakespeare's works 'Julius Caesar' or 'Anthony and Cleopatra'. Historical fiction that is based on older accounts, and that repopularized already known stories. This, in my eyes, is most likely.

Troy is in Turkey...I've personally met the archaeologist in charge of the excavation a few years ago. He was a guest speaker at a lecture I attended at the Smithsonian and his presentation was amazing.

@CrunchyNapkins

5 жыл бұрын

Liz Tukenmez Turkey was Greek at the time of Troy. Turks didn't arrive yet

@12334414

5 жыл бұрын

@C.H.A.D Bravo Actually Turks entered Anatolia in 1071 with the Battle of Manzikert and they have been there ever since. However at the time there were many other ethnic and religious groups in the region including the Byzantine Empire.

@mariosathens1

5 жыл бұрын

chill out, guys. The dude just said, "Troy is in Turkey". He didn't mention anything about Troy's History. I think everyone knows that Troy has nothing to do with the Turkish History or Culture.

@Robbyswifey009

5 жыл бұрын

Greeks had conquered that part of Turkey.

@Dr_Koki

5 жыл бұрын

@@ArjanTV hahahahaha

Troy was a rich trade center located in an important region. This city-state actually controlled the Bosporus Straits. Troy was the "Gate for Anatolia and the Black Sea" for the Greeks.. After the Fall of Troy, the Greeks established colonies and populated Asia Minor, Pontus, Anatolia, and the Black Sea.

@everlastinglife6485

5 жыл бұрын

❤❤❤❤

@jjsassman6103

4 жыл бұрын

And don't forget the Georgia Republic are ancient Greeks.

@zarni000

4 жыл бұрын

Ok I guess you know more than the experts....

@zarni000

4 жыл бұрын

@George Washington lmao I thought you were joking....would be a funny joke...but seeing subsequent comments I laughed even harder.

@zarni000

4 жыл бұрын

@Jeremy Kirkpatrick dont you know? Jesus was Serbian as well...

In the early 1990ies I read Schliemann's book of his excavations and finding the treasure. In 1996 I traveled on a river cruise to Moscow and saw the golden treasure in the museum, it was magnificent and astounding.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

Historical point = Homer in the Iliad and the Odyssey speaks only of Danaans, Achaeans, Argians and not of Greeks. The Hellenes (tribe of Southern Thessaly also called Argos Pelasgians), at his time, did not constitute yet a people or a Nation (Thucydides I,3). He affirms in the Iliad that "Zeus is Pelasgians and dodonean" (XVI,234). Precisely these Pelasgians (🇦🇱) were considered by all the ancient Greek authors as "the first inhabitants of Greece" before "The arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷)"! Another word that was misunderstood or glossed over. Indeed the Greeks arrived from somewhere because they were not indigenous. As they did not come from the North ( one wanted to make us believe the opposite), they could only be foreigners coming from elsewhere. It is this elsewhere which is difficult to define very precisely. But the legends, which are only embellished, idealized or metaphorized historical facts, give us some precious indications on the first foreign ethnic groups having occupied the country of the Pelasgians: the Danaans (Egyptians from whom the Dorians descend), the Cadmeans (Phoenicians) and the Pelopides (Assyrians). Among the peoples of archaic Greece the Ionians, Aeolians and Arcadians were descendants of the Pelasgians, indigenous populations conquered by the Hellenic invaders: they could claim to be indigenous populations. All the ancient authors, including Homer, Hesiod, Hecateus of Miletus, Acousilaos, Hellanicos, Herodotus, Thucydides or Ephorus, inform us succinctly but sufficiently to affirm that before the arrival of the Greeks the Pelasges (🇦🇱) occupied the country that was to become Greece. They also claim that these Pelasges were not Greeks but "Barbaros" i.e. not speaking Greek and, finally, that they LEGAVED TO THE GREEKS A LARGE PART OF THEIR CULTES AND DIVINE. Example: So, everyone has learned (at school etc ...) that Zeus was a Greek god, right? But why in the books of Homer (the basis of the bases!) we never see the so-called "Greek Zeus, Mycenaean Zeus or Zeus the Hellenic etc ... " Here is what Achilles (the greatest warrior of the Trojan War) tells us about Zeus = Achilles: - "Zeus, sovereign lord, O Dodonian prince, O you Pelasgic Zeus (🇦🇱), distant god who reigns over Dodona, in this harsh land of the Stool... " Source : Homer ( Iliad, XVI, 233/234 ) Achilles did not say " O you Zeus the Greek, O you Zeus the Mycenaean or O you Zeus the Hellenic etc ... " So why did they tell us that Zeus was a Greek? With this alone, we can see that modern historiography is not honest! Zeus = Zâ, Zani ( gheg ), Zê, Zeri ( Tosk ) Before securing power over the other gods, Zeus was the god of the luminous sky, of atmospheric phenomena (clouds, rain, wind, lightning, thunder). It was said of him "Zeus rains or Zeus thunders". With Homer and Hesiod, he acquired a preeminent role among the gods of Olympus and a place of choice in the mytological cosmogony. Some say that the name Zeus evokes the Sanskrit root "Dyaus" meaning "the day" (Latin Dies). However Homer states that "Zeus is Pelasgic 🇦🇱 and Dodonean" ( Iliad XVI,234). The oldest sanctuary, dedicated by the Pelasges to Zeus, is that of Dodone, in Thesprotia (ancient Pelasgia, called Epirus, the 5th century) . In Dodona was a sacred oak whose rustling leaves were interpreted by the oracle as the "VOICE" of Zeus. The attributes of Zeus are the Eagle, the Lightning and the Scepter. Moreover, lightning means "thunder", thus "noise" or "voice". Thus the name of Zeus can be explained by the Albanian "Zâ, Zani, the "voice", the verb". With the arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷) this oracle lost its importance to Delphi, the "Greek" sanctuary (of Apollo) par excellence. It should be noted that in Albania, God is called Zot (Zeus = Zojz = Zot), all religions combined. Moreover the expression "by Zeus" (who forgives) is always used there "për zotën". Porphyry (Life of Pythagoras) reports that Pythagoras used "Zan" to designate Zeus! ) This alone is enough to convince us that a great civilization, not Greek, existed WELL BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF THE HELLENES (🇬🇷) Neibhur (FOUNDER OF THE MODERN SCHOOL OF ANCIENT HISTORY!): "The name Pelasgians was probably that of a nation and, in any case, THE GREEK EXPLANATIONS ON THIS SUBJECT ARE ABSURD!" Source: The History of Rome Volume I, p.507 It is the meaning of this famous word "ARRIVED" that the modern authors (majority) did not quite seize (or occulted). Everything has been said and its opposite on this subject. Until the discovery of the so-called Mycenaean tablets, "deciphered" by Ventris and Chadwick, the doubt remained in their minds! But as soon as these two scholars decreed that the Mycenaean linear B (in reality Pelasgians!) was of the old Greek, all rocked in favor of the thesis of the continuity of the two civilizations (Mycenaean and Greek) and this in spite of FOUR CENTURIES, I repeat "FOUR CENTURIES !!!! "of MAGISTRATIC SILENCE! It is this theory that Mathieu Aref dismantles with arguments to SUPPORT because nobody suspected that this Mycenaean (total invention of Schliemann, who is not even an archaeologist but a Businessman! ) was none other than ancient Pelasgians (opinion of the Ancient Authors!) from which is derived, in part, the ancient Greek. Moreover of other flagrant argument comes to corroborate this last thesis: According to Herodotus ( I,57- VIII, 44- VII,95) the Ionians were Pelasgians (🇦🇱) become Hellenes (🇬🇷) by adopting the Greek language! The ethnonym "Ion" derives from the Pelasgic 🇦🇱 "I onë" ( in Albanian, I jonë ) meaning "ours", that is, by extension, "the one who is ( or was ) part of our family, of our ethnic group" . The assertion of Herodotus, according to which the Athenians and the inhabitants of Attica were of Pelasgic origin, is, before, confirmed by Hecateus of Miletus and, later, by Hellanicos of Mytilèbe (Lesbos) and other ancient authors. Curiously Thucydides, whose chauvinism is not any more to be shown, affirms that Pelops (conqueror of Peloponnese) was a was a foreigner come from Asia (I, 5): the only time when it evokes the foreign origin of one of its a - Therefore, the ancestors of the present Albanians, the Pelasgians, lived during the prehistoric periods in most of the then known world, developing a very important civilization and building works of exceptional value". Source: Great Greek Encyclopedia (Athens, volume. XIX p.873) - "Pelasgians, very ancient people living during the prehistoric period in Greece, in the Archipelago, on the coasts of Asia Minor and Italy. It is generally considered that the ancient Illyrians, Thracians, Phrygians, Lydians, Etruscans, Epirotes (...) and Albanians of today are the main branches of the Pelasgians". Source : Petit journal Larousse (Paris, 1950, p.1599) Karl O.Müller ( is a German archaeologist and mythologist ) : - The more the intelligence will enter the history of Greece, the more the attention will return on the element Pelasgians sacrificed until now . (Prolegomena - 1825) "Will enter" "Pelasgians", "sacrificed"..

@clovers1962

2 жыл бұрын

How did Russia get it?

@jerrysponagle3881

Жыл бұрын

Pictures or it just Bovine Excrement!

@christophershiels786

7 ай бұрын

Why is it in Russia

@lw3646

4 ай бұрын

​@@christophershiels786 they took it was war booty.

I feel fortunate that I was able to visit the location with my motorcycle! Although the public site and the museum nearby are small, I was happy to see it with my own eyes. An experience I'll never forget. Rode to Gobekli Tepe and Harran, but Troy was also on my list. I missed Efessus but thats more reason for me to go back in Turkey this year, on my motorcycle again :)

@hayabusaTravels

5 жыл бұрын

Very much so! My wife was not as impressed as my motorcycle.

@barbaraseymour3437

3 жыл бұрын

Good for you. I certainly envy you, perhaps not going on the bike but having visited the sites.

@larapalma3744

Жыл бұрын

@Jeremy Kirkpatrick lol

Sometimes true stories are much more unbelievable than fantasy. So that means that the iliad might have some truth to it and possibly really happened.

@ioannisimansola7115

3 жыл бұрын

Yes .... but elsewhere

@maggiemag3569

2 жыл бұрын

I think so too. Greek myths do have truth in them. Many of them may be based on historical events. Writing didn't really exist at that time - thus, they were transferred orally, which has definitely changed the story. I do believe that the Trojan War happened, and it happened in Troy (in response to ioannis mansola), but not in the way we imagine it.

@treatb09

2 жыл бұрын

At some point 1,000 ships sailed to a single war. A place to where 1,000 ships were required to conquer a people. Thats certain. As we have accounts of such great armies through out history. Inspiring the iliad? Possible. The greeks wrote many tales of their gods. Same as we do with our religions today.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

Historical point = Homer in the Iliad and the Odyssey speaks only of Danaans, Achaeans, Argians and not of Greeks. The Hellenes (tribe of Southern Thessaly also called Argos Pelasgians), at his time, did not constitute yet a people or a Nation (Thucydides I,3). He affirms in the Iliad that "Zeus is Pelasgians and dodonean" (XVI,234). Precisely these Pelasgians (🇦🇱) were considered by all the ancient Greek authors as "the first inhabitants of Greece" before "The arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷)"! Another word that was misunderstood or glossed over. Indeed the Greeks arrived from somewhere because they were not indigenous. As they did not come from the North ( one wanted to make us believe the opposite), they could only be foreigners coming from elsewhere. It is this elsewhere which is difficult to define very precisely. But the legends, which are only embellished, idealized or metaphorized historical facts, give us some precious indications on the first foreign ethnic groups having occupied the country of the Pelasgians: the Danaans (Egyptians from whom the Dorians descend), the Cadmeans (Phoenicians) and the Pelopides (Assyrians). Among the peoples of archaic Greece the Ionians, Aeolians and Arcadians were descendants of the Pelasgians, indigenous populations conquered by the Hellenic invaders: they could claim to be indigenous populations. All the ancient authors, including Homer, Hesiod, Hecateus of Miletus, Acousilaos, Hellanicos, Herodotus, Thucydides or Ephorus, inform us succinctly but sufficiently to affirm that before the arrival of the Greeks the Pelasges (🇦🇱) occupied the country that was to become Greece. They also claim that these Pelasges were not Greeks but "Barbaros" i.e. not speaking Greek and, finally, that they LEGAVED TO THE GREEKS A LARGE PART OF THEIR CULTES AND DIVINE. Example: So, everyone has learned (at school etc ...) that Zeus was a Greek god, right? But why in the books of Homer (the basis of the bases!) we never see the so-called "Greek Zeus, Mycenaean Zeus or Zeus the Hellenic etc ... " Here is what Achilles (the greatest warrior of the Trojan War) tells us about Zeus = Achilles: - "Zeus, sovereign lord, O Dodonian prince, O you Pelasgic Zeus (🇦🇱), distant god who reigns over Dodona, in this harsh land of the Stool... " Source : Homer ( Iliad, XVI, 233/234 ) Achilles did not say " O you Zeus the Greek, O you Zeus the Mycenaean or O you Zeus the Hellenic etc ... " So why did they tell us that Zeus was a Greek? With this alone, we can see that modern historiography is not honest! Zeus = Zâ, Zani ( gheg ), Zê, Zeri ( Tosk ) Before securing power over the other gods, Zeus was the god of the luminous sky, of atmospheric phenomena (clouds, rain, wind, lightning, thunder). It was said of him "Zeus rains or Zeus thunders". With Homer and Hesiod, he acquired a preeminent role among the gods of Olympus and a place of choice in the mytological cosmogony. Some say that the name Zeus evokes the Sanskrit root "Dyaus" meaning "the day" (Latin Dies). However Homer states that "Zeus is Pelasgic 🇦🇱 and Dodonean" ( Iliad XVI,234). The oldest sanctuary, dedicated by the Pelasges to Zeus, is that of Dodone, in Thesprotia (ancient Pelasgia, called Epirus, the 5th century) . In Dodona was a sacred oak whose rustling leaves were interpreted by the oracle as the "VOICE" of Zeus. The attributes of Zeus are the Eagle, the Lightning and the Scepter. Moreover, lightning means "thunder", thus "noise" or "voice". Thus the name of Zeus can be explained by the Albanian "Zâ, Zani, the "voice", the verb". With the arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷) this oracle lost its importance to Delphi, the "Greek" sanctuary (of Apollo) par excellence. It should be noted that in Albania, God is called Zot (Zeus = Zojz = Zot), all religions combined. Moreover the expression "by Zeus" (who forgives) is always used there "për zotën". Porphyry (Life of Pythagoras) reports that Pythagoras used "Zan" to designate Zeus! ) This alone is enough to convince us that a great civilization, not Greek, existed WELL BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF THE HELLENES (🇬🇷) Neibhur (FOUNDER OF THE MODERN SCHOOL OF ANCIENT HISTORY!): "The name Pelasgians was probably that of a nation and, in any case, THE GREEK EXPLANATIONS ON THIS SUBJECT ARE ABSURD!" Source: The History of Rome Volume I, p.507 It is the meaning of this famous word "ARRIVED" that the modern authors (majority) did not quite seize (or occulted). Everything has been said and its opposite on this subject. Until the discovery of the so-called Mycenaean tablets, "deciphered" by Ventris and Chadwick, the doubt remained in their minds! But as soon as these two scholars decreed that the Mycenaean linear B (in reality Pelasgians!) was of the old Greek, all rocked in favor of the thesis of the continuity of the two civilizations (Mycenaean and Greek) and this in spite of FOUR CENTURIES, I repeat "FOUR CENTURIES !!!! "of MAGISTRATIC SILENCE! It is this theory that Mathieu Aref dismantles with arguments to SUPPORT because nobody suspected that this Mycenaean (total invention of Schliemann, who is not even an archaeologist but a Businessman! ) was none other than ancient Pelasgians (opinion of the Ancient Authors!) from which is derived, in part, the ancient Greek. Moreover of other flagrant argument comes to corroborate this last thesis: According to Herodotus ( I,57- VIII, 44- VII,95) the Ionians were Pelasgians (🇦🇱) become Hellenes (🇬🇷) by adopting the Greek language! The ethnonym "Ion" derives from the Pelasgic 🇦🇱 "I onë" ( in Albanian, I jonë ) meaning "ours", that is, by extension, "the one who is ( or was ) part of our family, of our ethnic group" . The assertion of Herodotus, according to which the Athenians and the inhabitants of Attica were of Pelasgic origin, is, before, confirmed by Hecateus of Miletus and, later, by Hellanicos of Mytilèbe (Lesbos) and other ancient authors. Curiously Thucydides, whose chauvinism is not any more to be shown, affirms that Pelops (conqueror of Peloponnese) was a was a foreigner come from Asia (I, 5): the only time when it evokes the foreign origin of one of its a - Therefore, the ancestors of the present Albanians, the Pelasgians, lived during the prehistoric periods in most of the then known world, developing a very important civilization and building works of exceptional value". Source: Great Greek Encyclopedia (Athens, volume. XIX p.873) - "Pelasgians, very ancient people living during the prehistoric period in Greece, in the Archipelago, on the coasts of Asia Minor and Italy. It is generally considered that the ancient Illyrians, Thracians, Phrygians, Lydians, Etruscans, Epirotes (...) and Albanians of today are the main branches of the Pelasgians". Source : Petit journal Larousse (Paris, 1950, p.1599) Karl O.Müller ( is a German archaeologist and mythologist ) : - The more the intelligence will enter the history of Greece, the more the attention will return on the element Pelasgians sacrificed until now . (Prolegomena - 1825) "Will enter" "Pelasgians", "sacrificed"..

simply stunning documentary. one if not the best i have ever watched. thank you deply

The Trojan Horse is the ancient equivalent of the glitter bomb package pranks.

@mariablawatzky6103

3 жыл бұрын

Trojan is a sity in Bulgarien and the History is Made from Same Elite and is Not True !! The old Zivilisation are Traki and This are Bulgarisns !! Google it ... It is Not korrekt to Tell tings what is Not True !!! Spartakus , Orpfeus is Form Bulgarien to und This is Not True about Greeck Zivilisation... and Joghurt und many other things ....

@pOpCoRn0531

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariablawatzky6103 I'd like to NOT have what you're on brother.

@mariablawatzky6103

3 жыл бұрын

@@pOpCoRn0531 The Truth ist taff to be acceptet! Intelligenz ist to See the Fakt and Not to be ready to attack! I am Trakian ! And proud to be From Zivilisation like This ! Most englisch Talking People are Not ready to See the history and Sorry The Education Is Not to Talk 1 Language !Und read Book ONLY of This one !! 💖

@troywalkertheprogressivean8433

2 жыл бұрын

they got rick rolled

Totally Beautiful..awesome film images are amazing to see.Thank you so so much for everything..

Thanks for this upload...

I can imagine that Homer heard these stories and like so many, these stories fired his imagination. Like so many legends there were holes he had to fill in, so he traveled to the site and the story unfolded in his mind and being a writer and maybe even a dreamer, he wanted to share it and that is where Homers' epic tales came from.

@ryann8680

4 жыл бұрын

Doh!

@barbaraseymour3437

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

Great vid thanks.

Lost Worlds: Troy (Ancient history documentary) is amazing! I truly did appreciate it so much! Thanks a lot for sharing!

couple tousand years into the future "we found the lost city of Kings Landing"

@Ccthomas-ks1hn

3 жыл бұрын

haha well done

@Harosho

3 жыл бұрын

Sure it’s located in Croatia lol

@Rockydcomedy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Harosho but unfortunatelly no dragon fossils have been found... Only a strange humanoid half the size of a man... could the kings landians have been a city of dwarfs

@poulomi__hari

3 жыл бұрын

Well the story of Game of Thrones is based on real history of War f the Roses. And those cities were real, the people were real, the deaths and all were real. So archaeologists me dig the ancient city of York and claim they found the starks and all, I wont be surprised. This implies there really was a city that went through a disgusting war and met its end, became a legend, and is now mistook for a mythical/fictional story. So the name of the city must be different, the happenings of the war must be different, but of course something similar happened in the real world.

@beckyboone84

2 жыл бұрын

😂

Incredible Video!!!

There is no doubt the Hisarlik site is Troy/Ilion/Wilios/Wiluša(Wilusha). Ancient Greek lost the W sound the Homeric Greek had. The documentary is old. In 2018 we even know of clay tablet letters from a contemporary Hittite king to the king of the Achaeans regarding a Piyama Radu, a local king / troublemaker of Troy. The Hittite name may have been Hellenized as Priamos and Anglicized as Priam. The same one from the story. Read the Hittite King letters, the Tawagalawa letter in particular.

The Iliad was never performed by ancient Greek actors! It was always sung by the rapsodists like Homer! Theatre wasn't even a thing until 200 years AFTER Homer, and even then the Iliad couldn't be performed as a play, since it didn't have that form! It was an epic narrative, it didn't have parts and dialogue! That being said, all three of the great tragic poets of antiquity ( Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides) wrote many of their most famous plays based on the Iliad.

@richarddalton1232

4 жыл бұрын

Bravo!

@cecerae8637

4 жыл бұрын

Iliad was created by homer!!

@kamion53

4 жыл бұрын

he is treating the Illiad a bit roughshot, the Illiad was not about of Troy, but about the hissifit of Achilles.

@AlinnaIrimia

3 жыл бұрын

Iliad wasnt created by Homer ,even they say that ..iliad is PELASGO -THRACO ,two of Homer ’s teachers were Thrachians ….this is a STOLEN HISTORY !!!!

@maximiliand2544

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlinnaIrimia not stolen. Simply passed on as a tale. Homer can't help that historians credit him with writing it.

Sooooo interesting! I hope that ancient shoreline is studied further.

I am not an expert on this subject, but found this video a good piece of the puzzle of human history.

I wish I could “self proclaim” myself an archeologist too 😀

@zolda7179

3 жыл бұрын

i mean, you can. Grab a shovel, put on a cool desert hat and say "i'm an archeologist". bamm, self-proclaimed archeologist.

@tevitamotulalo3909

3 жыл бұрын

Go on...get digging then 😂😂😂

@wrongturnVfor

3 жыл бұрын

Nah I will just self proclaim myself achilles and put an end to this whole matter.

@itsnotyouitsmesues6868

3 жыл бұрын

You can- knowledge and education are within your grasp. You needn't go to an Ivy League school to have the level of education that some pay thousands to receive..with only a piece of paper signed by some other guy who paid thousands for the right to tell you you're a _________(

@willmfrank

3 жыл бұрын

@@wrongturnVfor If you're gonna be Achilles, be sure you wear a really tough pair of boots.

Having seen the ruins of Ephesus and how far that now is from the coast, makes the claim of the sea being closer to this site than now is, completely understandable.

@wrongturnVfor

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting - there is a documentary about the year 536 AD where they talk about geopolitical consequences of the Krakatoa explosion (now believed to be multiple volcanoes, one in island and another in Brazil and other places as well). Funny that the Romans turn to christianity and stop coming to Ilium at around the same time. And this is also the time when the sea recedes and pestilence and disease rage like the rest of the world. Fascinating.

@braeutchen41

3 жыл бұрын

Another curious occurence which has occurred in my own lifetime is; northern Africa WAS NOT all Sahara desert when I was young. There was a thick band of green verdant land around the far north west of the continent......it was thick and the Sahara was.from central Africa TOWARD the west.......something happened there when I was little and suddenly within 15 yrs the dry sand went all the way to the western coast. It was catastrophic. 😲

@treatb09

2 жыл бұрын

The most difficult thing is calculating elevation changes from continental drifts and tectonic changes of the crusts of earth. But wAter leaves remarkable evidence. However. Of all the ancient cities. There are many uncovered underneath the oceans. This location would have as likely risen as those dropped. And the ocean dried up some what. But we have a strong study n belief the ocean was much higher back then. N that contradicts these other sunken cities of the period. 1,000 years is only about 12’ difference. You’d expect an ancient account of a massive land change and earth quake. Which there are a few but they dont completely unify. We may never know for certain for as far as i know. We have no way of tracking tectonic shifts from our past. Their changes and to what degrees of centuries around this period. Proving that the ocean was simply higher and close to this location is left to discovering the one simple thing. Proof of sea life. There would be ships or wildlife remnants. Only to yet be discovered to prove these considerations

Irrespective of the comments I love this community where people are trying to figure out what might have happened , much better than talking the my real frends who don't care abt history 😂

@elfpimp1

3 жыл бұрын

These are a joy to watch. Myself, I watch and listen with a healthy dose of skepticism...👍

@elfpimp1

3 жыл бұрын

BTW, it's a shame about your irl friends not being interested..

@gonefishing167

3 жыл бұрын

I love listening to them as well. Good on you 🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

@amberinthebox4462

3 жыл бұрын

Omg I know. And I left facebook a while back cuz u could see society just slowly losing their minds even more so. And I really have found myself turning to comments in KZread. Lol. I tf s the most socializing I get anymore. Lol. I love a good youtube community

@twinkthatloveslotrtrilogy7676

3 жыл бұрын

@@amberinthebox4462 same! Facebook got really boring these days

Thank you very much for sharing this your great and wonderful work. altc

Funny how we call ancient religions cults, and modern cults religion.

@ArtoriusBravo

6 жыл бұрын

This. Totally.

@maxdecphoenix

5 жыл бұрын

they did no such thing. They called it paeganism, and there were cults of people dedicated to serving specific paegan idols or gods in their own temples. Giaus Ceasar of the Julii, immediately upon marching into Rome was recorded as having patronized the Cult of Mars to ask for a sign of Mars' blessing that he name himself emperor.

@72Yonatan

5 жыл бұрын

The word "cult" has more than one definition. Cult today is a specific type of religious organization where one is not allowed to leave, and there is one leader whose word is law for all the members. The modern cult seeks to cut the member off from his family and former friends.

@freakindamnshiki

5 жыл бұрын

a cult is a relegion practice that difers from the mainstream practice, a cult of Athena like he was speaking is a branch of the main relegion dedicated exclusevly to athena, it was a cult inside the main religion of rome you had many of them

@tnt75142

5 жыл бұрын

72Yonatan Very true. So scary these groups hide n isolate people to manipulate minds n lives.

History gets so janky that far before B.C. I love it

@slowburntm3584

5 жыл бұрын

That is why it is called pre-history, it was before they recorded everyday life and events.

Whenever I watch documentaries like these, I literally wince at the damages done to ancient finds by amateur 'archaeologists' in their race to claim credits.

@kellymeggison9418

4 жыл бұрын

They didnt have modern archeological practices to adhere to, or go by! Not really a fault thing, and its entirely human to want credit for accomplishing interesting things, certainly this would be no different!

@GrainneMhaol

4 жыл бұрын

Schliemann was a dilettante and did a lot of damage, but he also recorded and published meticulously. In many ways, he pioneered modern archaeological methods.

@adamjd7645

3 жыл бұрын

True, but they were pioneers & formed the basis for what the field is now.

@bunzeebear2973

3 жыл бұрын

Then you would hate Aussie palentologists(dinosaurs) They use dynamite..to find stuff..we got glue.

@onderozenc4470

3 жыл бұрын

How can somebody damage the stones ?

A most interesting post I always enjoy Timeline

Amazing documentary

So given the time the city was destroyed I would say it was "Sea People" which may have actually been displaced Greeks after a string of earthquakes and such around that time, and conditions causing crop issues, forcing people to essentially migrate and sack everything on the way. Troy might have been one of the first targets. Homer of course might have heard embellished stories, but he would have had no idea who attacked Troy or why 500 years earlier, only that it happened and the great city was lost.

I think there’s a documentary in your add

@jeffthomas3707

4 жыл бұрын

There's also an adblocker in your apps

@abc-oq7dt

3 жыл бұрын

Skip to the end of the video then press watch again.

@stephenmartin5766

3 жыл бұрын

James Glen Lol doesn’t work

@lynnann5643

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenmartin5766 It works for me on my android but not my iphone. I have no clue why.

@tevitamotulalo3909

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

This was a good documentary, thank you, thoroughly enjoyed it 😊

Very interesting documentary. I found the information of use and value.

These trojan(hisarlik) designs of jewlry and clothes still in use in fashion industry n commoners. Amazing.

I was really surprised he let his wife wear the ancient jewelry, That:s something we wouldn't do nowadays. It is kind of sweet though.

@marloyorkrodriguez9975

3 жыл бұрын

It is sweet until you consider that Schliemann destroyed the sites above the location of the jewelry.

@hayate7310

2 жыл бұрын

When your rich you do what you want lol

History is my favorite subject during m high school days.now im studying again.ty for ur program.its very great.

No one is more intractable than entrenched archeologists.

I was sad to find that this didn't quite reach the heights of Michael Wood's amazing documentary from 30 years ago. Despite all of the new archaeological discoveries, I've yet to find one that studies the subject in such depth.

It's not fantasy. Troy existed, there was just more than one city on the same spot through the centuries. However, we have dated one of the cities to the time of the Trojan War and proven that it collapsed due to war. That seems pretty evident to me that the Trojan War actually happened. Now whether or not everything Homer wrote was absolutely true is another story. However, we do know that he wrote about this city and the war that took its life. He also accurately described weapons and armor of the Trojan period that he himself would have never laid eyes upon. We know this from archaeology. Heinrich even used The Iliad to locate and find Trojan ruins. How is there no evidence that Homer's story is true?

@42kellys

5 жыл бұрын

Chrsi Aldridge: I agree, absolutely.

@Evilroco

5 жыл бұрын

A couple of points but I agree with sentiment. a) I believe Homer was blind and just repeating oral History in the tradition of the time.(he couldn't have seen anything) b)He says he used the Iliad for directions but his directions and sailing distances ,tides don't match to Turkey c) The description of land and climate don't match ,making many believe a northern or western European site for Troy.( No doubt the site in Turkey is more than worthy of more research but I don't think anything found so far proves it to be Troy . I read a couple of works from diff authors proposing alternate sites that fitted the directions and topography much better than the Turkish Location.( I need to go through many bookcases to see if I can find any of them to give a ref, sorry still very old school in that regard )

@BalkanCrusader

4 жыл бұрын

@@Evilroco there are many clues pointing that original Troy lies in Adriatic sea and coast,behind mountains.. after fall of Troy,Odysseus is wandering 10 years and Homer describe parts of coast and some islands in the Adriatic sea.. there is long tradition in seafarring and horse raising among this people,and for some time in history,they were called Illyrians..

@Amphitera

4 жыл бұрын

every bit of "mythology" penned in ancient times was not meant to be a work of fiction, it was an historical account. It's just that modern "scientists" cannot cope with the fact how advanced ancient civilizations were, and that's why they decided to call ancient history "mythology" and pretend it never happened.

This is just fascinating. ❤

Today, I'm still waiting for those who can find Atlantis.

@hishshi_2234

3 жыл бұрын

🙂👌

@andrewgibbons137

3 жыл бұрын

It's found

@Gamelaced

3 жыл бұрын

Look up the richat structure

@z0ro_62

3 жыл бұрын

I say look it up they found a place that matches the details of the city in Africa

@Engineeringuncovered

3 жыл бұрын

Plato made up Troy as a cautionary tale for Athens.

Everyone in the comments complain about ads and I'm sitting here with adblocker and no ads >_>

@ZZMJo

3 жыл бұрын

Ads? which ones? 🤣

@buck5554

3 жыл бұрын

Ad blocker?

@Lycan23beast

3 жыл бұрын

Well I just skip the video to the end and then I press the arrow circle and... Magic all ads gone :)

@histguy101

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just going out on a limb here, but im assuming most viewers are watching this on a mobile device using the KZread app, and thus, do not have an ad blocker. However, I do realize that there are still people who do it the old fashion way.

@Astronic

3 жыл бұрын

@@histguy101 Good assumption good sire!

"Every year thousands of tourist come to Hisarlik in the belief they are visiting the most famous sites of antiquity---" 2:28 Cue shirtless sweaty grandpa walking in the foreground.

FANTASTIC!

Not enough documentary in this commercial.

Massive blunder at 6:10 Iliad ends with death of Hector, much earlier than the Trojan Horse story.

@danny50582

3 жыл бұрын

It also refers to Helen as a princess of Sparta rather than a queen.

@maximiliand2544

3 жыл бұрын

Historians now think Hector and Ajax were from an earlier tale based on their armor and shield descriptions.

@wrongturnVfor

3 жыл бұрын

Most likely Homer did what most famous writers do - picked up a bunch of cultural ancient stories, added some salt and spice and everything nice and produced one great "epic" or two to get famous.

Homer wrote his description of the Trojan war 500 years after it was to have taken place... To put that into perspective America is only 244 years old. Kinda crazy when you think k about that!

@marleneglamworld1452

3 жыл бұрын

They really have no clue at all how old America is or this planet

@marleneglamworld1452

3 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Kirkpatrick I guarantee you they don’t they be guessing this planet and humans are old as the dirt 😂😂 sike

@marleneglamworld1452

3 жыл бұрын

B Nizzle and I don’t have time to go back and forward with slowness

@histguy101

3 жыл бұрын

@Ramona Rael If you remove a zero, you'd have it right--> about 30 years. The late dating of the new testament by scholars is about 50-100ad. The early dating is 50-70ad. Christ is believed to have died around 30ad. The earliest quotes from new testament books are from around 100ad. No one claims they were written 300 years later.

@BRTowe

Жыл бұрын

@@marleneglamworld1452 Um, I think he is referring to the USA, not the actual land, lol.

Great work guy's fascinating... around of applause for mr Coffman !!!!

Not sure why they didn't mention the fact the book is actually part of a series, most of which got lost. We don't know what happened during the majority of the war. Also, the Trojan horse is never described in the actual book they talk about, nor is the ending of the war. It came from some other literature written by a different authors from a much later date. I feel like everyone should know that the older stories (iliad and odyssey) are written by homer in about 1000 years BC, the rest of his works telling the whole story are lost. Some Roman follow up came around the birth of Christ and describes the actual horse and how the city was taken with it. What it also describes is how the defeated trojans came to italy and are the founders of Rome... all at a very convenient time in history for them. There is some other Greek literature which describes the events but also 1000 years after the original work. One "possible" mention was made in odyssey about the trojan horse but I am not convinced. Look I read it all and I strongly believe its just a story, about god and legends told to entertain, but you can make up your own mind. Whether or not the whole Trojan horse part is even true is actually a different discussion. I feel like when you want to make a documentary about whether or not the city of Troy actually existed, some research on the actual literature would not be a bad idea. Instead of pretending it all comes from the iliad.. maybe that was just to simplify things but to me all of the above adds enough doubt the the whole story that no way in the world I believe any of it happened. PS: Still love the doc tho, and the subject, obviously.

WOW!.......love it

It does not matter wether the city or the war existed. The poem is beautiful and certainly based on some past war in the area. Homer invented the first love story of the past mingling with some real war that no body would cares about. Without Helen and Paris there would not have been no such interest for Troy.

I just saw a dude wearing a California Raisins shirt. How old is this documentary?

@kevingee4294

6 жыл бұрын

Button Mashing Queen Another post said Korfman died in 2005...so....

@elissitdesign

5 жыл бұрын

Ancient 😂

@bethbartlett5692

4 жыл бұрын

It's on KZread - they no longer allow current info -

@doodyhanks1

4 жыл бұрын

@@bethbartlett5692 😂😂😂

@zarni000

4 жыл бұрын

Obviously quite old as guy is talking about Yugoslavia

The lead archaeologist calls it Troy in the 4th minute... Well, that's it. :-)

Glad to see some people thinking of next generations. The best any generation can do, is to revive the historic buildings and use echo friendly power systems to drive the tourist trades there as well; despite of new modern buildings.It could revive history and bring it to life, with echo friendly power technology.

Hisarlik is Troy. There is no doubt about it. It's been very well established. We don't know which layer corresponds to the Trojan War, or if the war even took place, but Hisarlik is unquestionably Troy. It was not, however, a wonder of the Bronze Age. In fact, it was subject to other powers during the Late Bronze Age.

@maisiecarruthers695

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah calvert then scheliman forgive the spelling of the Germans name sorted that a century n a half ago

@99smite

6 жыл бұрын

He did. Schliemann had read the Iliad and compared geographic references from the book with local evidence. He only mistook the wrong layer as "the Troy"...

@philtanics1082

6 жыл бұрын

Def is Troy. Schleiman went to Turkey at a time when everyone thought it was a myth using the Illiad as a guide to figure out where to look, gets about where he thinks is right and asks locals "wheres Troy?" they point to where he digs, He finds a sprawling city dating back to time of the war and far earlier, complete with megalithic walls and priceless treasure. Yet, you always have people to try and find every excuse to how its not Troy because it was written about by Homer and was considered "mythology" ? I don't get it sometimes.

@MrMethadrine

6 жыл бұрын

oh yes.Before Mongols took it.

@CrunchyNapkins

5 жыл бұрын

MrMethadrine False it was abandoned in 500 A.D due to Constantinople. Mongols invades around 1100 A.D

Yessir! Love it!

How an amazing Discover The city of troy.

I don't agree with his argument that people don't want to accept it because they're set in their ways. Even most people set in their ways will usually eventually concede if not doing so would damage their reputation, and those who don't concede even then end up with not much reputation precisely because of it. It's probably more like: - Some don't want to accept it because it nullifies their chances of making the history books themselves for discovering Troy - Some have to keep counterarguing because if they don't they'll lose funding for their own Project Troys. - For many if not most, it's probably a bit of both.

@bobbiusshadow6985

6 жыл бұрын

mehh....debatable cuz highly speculative

I actually like the idea that Homer creatively wrote the story of Troy because when you think about it long before Marvel, DC, Disney and the rest, Troy becomes one of the earliest franchises in existence. For all the poems, stories, books and movies that have been made and are still being made. Crazy to think what that story has raked in since being written.

Awesome documentary! On a side note... how do I get jobs to film the drone shots for a documentary like this? That would be my calling for sure!

Great history .

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@markpratt4069

4 жыл бұрын

Timeline - World History Documentaries .

@memphisqueen40

4 жыл бұрын

They got their gold jewelry from Africa.

@memphisqueen40

4 жыл бұрын

I think they're fantasizing about this being Troy. They are insisting this is Troy. They are depicting modern images. Causing confusion.

@popeyethesailor1089

4 жыл бұрын

Can you please increase the volume on your uploads? They are somewhat quiet. Excellent content. Thank you so much for the documentaries.

@wrongsalvation8904

4 жыл бұрын

Just figured I'd let you know the app doesn't work. It was very disappointing to find out. I guess I'm sticking with just curiosity.

The Iliad - Achilles 🇬🇷 The Mahabharata - Karna 🇮🇳 Most skilled warriors of all time 🙏🏻

WHERE THERES SMOKE THERE IS FIRE a grain of truth behind the old tales

"The location in question is miles from the sea".....yeah and it was the same with thermopolyae thousands of years ago too!

i hate that these docs are always only about the archaeologists, and their story. not the site

@ThisIsYourOnlyWarning

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Jones yeah right, they’re always about their opinions and not just facts and science that can be factually proven.

@jasonrees6012

4 жыл бұрын

It's because the trade of archeology is based almost entirely on opinion ,their is no empirical truth, their never will be . these guys are a rare breed ,very self assured . So you are right ,but it isn't because they think they are better ,it's just that everyone has their own version ,a version which they've sold to their benefactors , their students and every article they have ever written. If they don't show progress ,then the money runs out . It's sad to me that archeology has more to do with research funds than fact.

@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty

4 жыл бұрын

Yep and they are all in for the money...meager as it is..They want fame.

@jrich749

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Wood did this topic so much better back in the 80s.

@GrainneMhaol

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they're only the people that dig the site. What?

Calling Schliemann an archaeologist is a ginormous stretch.

@kamion53

3 жыл бұрын

more of an Indiana Jones like tombrobber. oh sorry Indiana Jones has Schliemann as inspiration.

@shanemcfadden6427

2 жыл бұрын

Call archaeology a science is an even bigger stretch.

Wonderful documentry

the documentary is really disturbing the ads…..

Can you imagine if a thousand years from now someone looks for Hogwarts lol

@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks

3 жыл бұрын

That's good!

@giselematthews7949

3 жыл бұрын

It will be in England

@almostsirens6577

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine a thousand years from now someone uncovers Disney

When I was a little boy in boarding school we would say - "Is this the face that launched and thousand spitballs and caused all that fighting in assembly." Then we would start brawling and the housemasters would separate us but they could not stop the division into two groups who arranged to meet on the field in front of Copethorpe Hall (the Plain of Windy Troy) and we would fight the Trojan War. My house fought with the Trojans (the topless Towers of Illion) . There were many injuries and the Nurse dreaded these encounters but even the head master, Tubby Lester, could not stop it. Sometimes we would break off for single combat which was a boxing match and then we would start fighting again. We had boys who could sew and repair our armor (House Uniforms) . I am old now but I still have scars.

@barbaraseymour3437

3 жыл бұрын

JoachimderZweite Such fun.

Much research has been done recently using ground penetrating radar. Once thought to be the lower city surrounded by a ditch no military items where found in the ditch. The ditch enclosed an area found with few buildings or roads instead found in the ditch were the complete bones of a bull and many plant spores that were not native to the area. It is now thought that after the small citadel area, this was a large garden in which sacred bulls roamed, the ditch keeping them in. The common people lived in an area north to the shallow bay and west to Besik Bay. Mycenaean graves from the Bronze Age have been found in the Besik Bay Area, since unlike Homer’s story, they did not cremate their dead. There may have been tumuli around Troy but they would not have contained the bones of Achilles after 500 years The gold cache found by Schliemann is generally thought to have been collected in a number of places in the ruins not in one buried cache. There are stories about the Trojan War(s) that are older than the Iliad and also are more historically based, ones that do not contain Gods and Goddesses and and all Trojans and Greeks practicing the same rites. The Iliad also contains areas that are Bronze Age staples and Iron Age stapes. A number of the cities listed in the catalogue from Greek regions did not exist during the Bronze Age. Recent studies from the Luwian.org indicate that there may have been more than one war at Troy. A raider who constantly plundered the smaller cities of the west coast of Anatolia resembles Achilles in many respects. Also there is a letter from the Hittite king to a Prince Alexandu at Troy. This letter is hundreds of years older than our traditional date. Unlike our ancestors we have to realize that the Iliad is a great story--but not history. It contains elements of various wars, with heroes and inflated lifestyles. There is also a strong belief now that a single Homer did not exist. That the story particularly because of the many armor, rites, and religious ceremony anachronisms in both the Odyssey and Iliad that it may have been written down over a number of years by a number of imaginative authors. I would suggest readers interested in the latest information check out Luwian Studies.org for a new hypothetical map of Troy and a lot of scientific research regarding Troy’s place in the trading world of the Bronze Age. It incorporates much of the date retrieved from ground penetrating radar.

I've been to the ancient city of Troy in northwestern Turkey.

I love how they have to make this dig seem more important by claiming many "experts" don't believe it's Troy. No it's not 100% certain, but it's certainly the site the ancient Greeks thought was Troy. When I earned my classics ma in the 90s that was the consensus among scholars. It's just a question of how accurately storytellers passed down memories of the events of 400 years earlier.

@treatb09

2 жыл бұрын

People are too restricted by their own insights to rationalize how everything was in the past. Even today. 50 years prior. American culture was dramatically different. To imagine 1,000 years. In a period where 3 generations may last one century at best. Less written accounts. No educational systems. In terms of today. One generation to the next its difficult to keep the definitions of words and slang consistent. In 30-50 generations of 1,000 years. Vs nature at its harshest... its astonishing that the story has survived at all.

My ancestors oral history says that they claim to be those that escaped Troy. They were called 'the great unwashed', the Plebians. They arrived from the Mediterranean about 6th century BC on the North Pembrokeshire coast. The 2005 DNA survey identified Greek DNA. A stone to celebrate a thousand year occupation carved in 6th century AD remains in Nevern church yard to this day.

Thanks!

Fantastic.

I expect 2000 years in the future, they would be trying to locate the historical location of Hogswart.

@gladius881

5 жыл бұрын

Hogwarts

@donkeyslayer677

5 жыл бұрын

Not unless the people of the future are absolute fools.

@markmitchell450

3 жыл бұрын

Anyone could probably find the movie

Be sure to look a gift horse in the mouth. I kept waiting for him to say that experts weren't even sure if Homer himself existed.

@ShaneShane813

2 жыл бұрын

Why would i lick A gift horse in the mouth ? Ewwwwww

Whether it's Troy or not, it's very interesting.

History is all we really have.

Troy is in today’s turkey, not fun , I like history and discoveries and the things that happened in the past, but dealing with Muslims not fun, I wouldn’t do it.

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. A phrase I’ve heard all my life. Notwithstanding that, remarkable video. I’ve been there actually - if it’s not Troy - it’s still a marvel of antiquity . They’re getting closer all the time. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

@deliriumbee4678

2 жыл бұрын

Φόβου τους Δαναούς και δώρα φέροντες 😂

47:23 My god this guy is oozing with happiness!

@jettjohnson6820

4 жыл бұрын

He's stoned.

@elizzabethbouvier3387

3 жыл бұрын

He's just happy. Someone is talking to him like they care about the subject

was here 2008. was awesome.

I mean since the Greek accounts are already very questionable, that makes it very plausible that this could be Troy. All you need is the right geographical location, time and size.

I believe this Troy!

@barbaraseymour3437

3 жыл бұрын

Terry Rodbourn Me too

@vesnanuspahic7510

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know what means troy ?

Whenever we find all these cities 3,000 years ago or more that tells me that the tectonic plates have not moved yet at all and I love the magnetic thing magnets are great good luck and keep finding history I really enjoy watching it

Very good

Schliemann was just a treasure hunter. He destroyed enormous amounts of evidence possibly including tablets which may have been able to confirm the site. His rubbish heaps need to be excavated. I hope the troy question is resolved for good in the next few years. I think it is troy but we need primary evidence and we know they used tablets like the hittites did

it's getting less and less enjoyable to watch videos on youtube because of commercials

who else is enjoying this in lockdown...?