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@ThisNameWasAvaliblle

8 ай бұрын

Loved the new camera placement! Switch up once in a while 😊

@MrJturner74

7 ай бұрын

Just wait until Honda comes out with the Hybrid Goldwing.

I feel like the bike begging to get a hybrid version is the Goldwing

@chrishart8548

8 ай бұрын

All the luggage full of batteries instead of space for your stuff. And a really short range. Sounds perfect.

@chrism6880

8 ай бұрын

@chrishart8548 you...don't know what a hybrid is...do you?

@chrishart8548

8 ай бұрын

@@chrism6880 I know of the 3 common types. Mild hybrid (the motor won't move the vehicle on its own) self charging hybrid (will move the vehicle until the engine kicks in . And plug in hybrid ( that you could in theory never use the engine)

@captainwin6333

8 ай бұрын

@@chrishart8548 Dump the 1800cc motor, the 4 gallons of fuel, the half gallon of engine oil, the radiator, the water in the radiator, the hundreds or so moving parts in a combustion engine for the 3 parts of an electric motor, with only one part moving. The 100% torque from zero revs of an electric motor compared to an internal combustion engine that has to be at several thousand RPM to get to its max torque figure. Electric motors make more sense for cruising than combustion engines. The rate of development of batteries, motors, charging time reduction and the future is electric.

@chrishart8548

8 ай бұрын

@captainwin6333 so just a BEV. I would love to see some numbers on range performance and weight. Could actually work out well. Would cost a fortune but the range will be better than anything else with 2 wheels offered so far.

My take on it was that this bike was developed with Euro 6 emissions in mind. You can get 650ish class performance with 250ish class emissions. The bike was already through development before they walked back Euro 6. Unfortunate for Kawasaki.

@Joric78

8 ай бұрын

You mean Euro 7? Euro 6 was introduced in 2014.

@velocity-ninja4428

8 ай бұрын

@@Joric78 Motorcycles lag automotive emissions standards by a generation.

@Joric78

8 ай бұрын

@@velocity-ninja4428 Gotcha, didn't realise it was Euro 5 for bikes. The plans to ban the sale of fossil fuel vehicles by 2035 still includes bikes though right?

@velocity-ninja4428

8 ай бұрын

Not sure about that. I would think that would be the case, I just don't think we're gonna be ready. That plan will probably get walked back as well.

Kawasaki is awesome for not being afraid to try new things. I'd definitly get this hybrid as a commuter biker. The nobody cares about MPG isn't considering the Asian and Euro markets where gas is super expensive

@disekjoumoer

3 ай бұрын

It won't sell here in Europe. Electric scooters sell extremely well, but they're built for cities and commuting. They don't compromise by having an extra gas engine that adds weight but not performance.

This is a system similar to F1. The boost is used for passing, and must be regenerated before using again. Jeep has a similar system called eTorque, which is highly reviewed. We own a Jeep Wrangler plug-in hybrid with eTorque and it works well. IMO this motorcycle will perform better than anyone expects.

"Nobody is gonna care". Well. Have You talked to any Europeans who has four times the price of fuel, compared to Americans?

@nordicjourneys

8 ай бұрын

Us Scandinavians don’t care. Bikes are toys here that you can use for like 3 months at best….everything here is top dawg stuff!! Well lots of learner bikes due to licensing but everyone I know has the type of thing I used to dream of back in the usa. Group rides are all v4 super duke blah blah stuff. Mayne italy is diff tho. I cant say

@soulslaveone

8 ай бұрын

@@nordicjourneys I care and Im Norwegian! I just used my bike today, 1 celcius in Oslo today. So, been riding since march and will not stop until the snow arrives next week, I think. Just a little short of six months, in other words. Btw, the Honda x-adv 750 that I`ve got, uses 0.39L/10km. A 90`s Litre-bike was using a liter of fuel per 10km. EASY! So with a gasprice of 25 NOK/ 3 dollars per liter, it makes perfect sense to have a bike with great fuel-economy in 2023.

@hleeb926

8 ай бұрын

Another European here. I couldn’t care less.

@pleasedontwatchthese9593

8 ай бұрын

I care about it but for getting more range and not having to go to the pump as much

@nordicjourneys

8 ай бұрын

@@soulslaveone I rode yesterday in uppsala. About 3 degrees here. I have a 1290 superduke and get horrible mileage but I dont care it is a toy with 180hp. If I want to save Ill drive my car which gets like 4.5l/100

This is fantastic, I have been wondering for many years, why nobody has made a hybrid motorcycle ? I would much rather have that than a full electric motorcycle. You still get the sound from a "real" motorcycle but better fuel economy and probably cool acceleration with that extra power from the electric engine. I hope more manufacturers build hybrid motorcycles.

@deathownme

4 ай бұрын

my main issue with full electric is the range, with a hybrid you wouldnt have to plan your ride as much so you can still go touring without any worries.

I would think hybrid tech would be better for touring/commuting bikes, but maybe I am partial. I actually would love a 700lb dresser that gets 80mpg, has 450 mile range, runs at low rpms at 80mph and only really hear the exhaust when I get on the throttle. Also, why put a heat sensitive component behind the engine and between the exhaust pipes? Why not put it up front with the radiator?

@Kenicavus

8 ай бұрын

a hybrid scooter would actually be pretty sweet

@WL2K

8 ай бұрын

Perfect points . Cruisers run in the rev range where electric is best. Weight is much less an issue. Begs the question, where the hell is Honda's hybrid Goldwing???

ADV bike is where this tech will shine. a 450 twin has enough power to cruise on the highway, but the electric power can take over for very smooth low speed off-roading. Kawasaki just needs to refine the systema bit so the battery can sustain an 80% engine 20% electric "sport mode" and I think they'd have a hit on their hands.

@sokugi8872

8 ай бұрын

Agree completely. Built as lightweight as possible.

@kannermw

8 ай бұрын

LOL batteries are heavy. Way heavier than liquid fuel equivalent but keep the delusions coming😅

@austinbauman3818

8 ай бұрын

Yeah but a battery doesn't have to be heavier than another cylinder. I want a single that can have twin power for a few miles @@kannermw

@kannermw

8 ай бұрын

@@austinbauman3818 What you think it should be compared to reality is lunacy. Look at how much EVs weigh. It is mostly about the weight of the battery to store sufficient energy for range and provide higher peak output without overheating. An electric hybrid always weighs more than an engine powered nearest equivalent. In a passenger car that is not a big issue but in a motorcycle it is.

If you ride (commute) in England between towns this 15 second boost is perfect. Coming off roundabout - BOOST momentum slow down for next roundabout BOOST again for next little stretch of road. I've been waiting since a similar bike was promised in 1999!

"Who would want 15 seconds of 20 HP?" -Spite Laughs in Nitrous

@LogicalQ

8 ай бұрын

But the weight cost isn’t worth the power gain…

@fullmetalcorgi1350

8 ай бұрын

@@LogicalQ unless it's all concentrated in her thighs

@aidensnow5017

3 ай бұрын

@@LogicalQ I'm curious what this electric setup would be like slapped onto one of their larger engines tho... I'm sure we will see eventually.

@simonhemingwaygmail

3 ай бұрын

​@LogicalQ dude it weighs 500lbs.... that super light

Kawasaki is giving the motorcycle industry the middle finger. You said once that we didn't want the ZX4RR. Well I got one and just love it. It is so much fun for the roads I ride. Not every bike needs to be good on a track, which seems to always be reviewers criteria. Take some bikes on the twisty's up in the mountains once in awhile. That is were the ZX4RR shines.

@pvt.paula4423

Ай бұрын

The ZX4RR is actually positioned to be a Track toy

Hybrid bikes will make huge sense when you can get 50km on electric and use ICE for anything more. Then the work commute will work on electric and you also have the ICE for weekend range.

@chrispekel5709

8 ай бұрын

It's all added weight and complexity that isn't required in a light vehicle like a motorcycle. This is all because of stupid government regulations pushed by the dumb climate change scam

@thekenthouse6428

8 ай бұрын

This is why a plug-in hybrid makes a lot of sense. No range anxiety for longer trips and plenty of all-electric driving for running errands and commuting.

@thorstenmetalhead9666

2 ай бұрын

... why hauling raound a second motorcycle ypu don't need half of the time?

I’d love this drivetrain in a Versys-frame. This is where I think it would excel.

@chrishart8548

8 ай бұрын

It would be even worse probably add another 20kg to a already Heavy bike

@903lew

8 ай бұрын

@@chrishart8548 Maybe. But 20kg down low isn't something I'm worried about tbh. I'd still like to try it out.

@chrishart8548

8 ай бұрын

@@903lew would be probably heavier than a verseys 1000 but it would be interesting to see. Would also add a fair bit to the price as the verseys has always been a premium over the normal ninja

@903lew

8 ай бұрын

@@chrishart8548 Aye, we’ll see. I’m just glad to see Kawasaki doing something interesting. And considering the kit on this bike surely there’s some weight savings to be made.

this Hybrid has longer range than electric bikes twice the price and is faster off the line than gas bikes with 50% more fuel consumption. i say that is pretty solid result for a first effort. as a proof of concept this bike is a win.

Will most definitely get an Insta 360 at some point for filming rides as well. Also I think you hit the nail on the head with what Kawasaki is doing. They challenge themselves and put awesome stuff out. Like the H2 and all other models like the ZX6, KLR, Versys and my Z750 as well in the naked segment in the 00's and the legacy of that continues to this day with the Z800 and 900. So now with this Hybrid motorcycle I find that really awesome.

It costs me $37 to fill the tank on my R3 here in New Zealand, so yeah we get taxed through the roof on our fuel. This motorcycle might just be what we need.

@nonyabusiness4151

7 ай бұрын

Or a new government.

@cutedoge-wc2mr

3 ай бұрын

Wait till u replace new battery

@Josh-cw8by

2 ай бұрын

It might have something to do with New Zealand being an island in the middle of nowhere.

The electric range on a hybrid automobile is also nothing to write home about.

@Drobium77

2 ай бұрын

it is in Japan and Europe. I don't think this bike was really aimed at the States

The „boost button“ thing is really limiting the whole concept of a hybrid. The electric motor should add power automatically if needed. 15 seconds is plenty of time, if you consider how long you really need max power. A 60 hp bike will accelerate to legal limits in about five seconds. After that, you only need a fraction of the whole power to maintain your speed. So instead of adding a manual boost button, just let the bike‘s ECU do the whole power management. Recuperation would be great to refill the battery quicker, but I guess if the small motor already has a thermal problem with acceleration for 15 seconds, then adding recuperation would kill it pretty quickly.

The max power for 15 seconds is plenty enough. You only need max power for max acceleration. You don't need it for cruising at different speeds.

I really like the side/over the shoulder camera angle!

I’d love an ADV bike with a front hub motor for tricky off road shenanigans. As for this Kawasaki…. I do feel like they missed the mark a little bit.

@spitescorner

8 ай бұрын

That would be pretty sweet.

@chrishart8548

8 ай бұрын

That would do wonders for unsprung weight on an off road bike a hub motor. Probably get broken inside by the first bump

Brand new concept bike and disruptive technology along with it. I’m picking they went with the smaller IC unit to resolutely prove the concept of economy linked with performance. They knew they were up for criticism whatever capacity they initially released and they’ll certainly have more impressive offerings in the pipeline. Could be a bit heavy for general use but in a cruiser or adventure bike this technology could sell in great numbers. If you can’t pass in 15 seconds, you probably shouldn’t. This would still make a decent tourer. Really impressed with your camera setup - magic having that OTS view! 👍🏻

A hybrid makes so much sense for me. I live in a terraced house 'close' in the UK. I leave for work at 0100. I have to roll my bike down the hill onto the main road before firing it up. If I had electric to carry me away from the houses before engaging the engine, it would be soooo good. But I'd want more power than this.

@chrishart8548

8 ай бұрын

Does it even move with just the motor ? And as far as I know its not a plug in hybrid either

@deathownme

4 ай бұрын

@@chrishart8548 I realise I might be a little late, but yes there's a full electric mode on the bike

I agree with the comments on this being a platform for touring. I had a chance to try out an Energica for a short tour around the Olympic Peninsula. The entire trip became about where can I charge. Not having to worry about running out of electrons while still having that off the line torque or for passing and sipping fuel the rest of the way does fill that niche of a week on the road type of riding. That said, this is still one for the early adopters, but they gotta set the starting line somewhere. This is also going to help encourage other manufacturers to spend more on R&D to catch up and compete.

Kawai and others really need to get feedback from their base and could easily sell a brand new product. Also love the front and shoulder view

I don't understand why hybrid cars/bikes etc always try to overcomplicate things with their hybrid drive engines. They should be 100% electric vehicles with a steady state petrol/diesel generator to keep the batteries topped up. Then you can do your daily commute on 100% electric and anything that requires more distance with the generator running.

@chublez

3 ай бұрын

Maybe because it's oftentimes more efficient to directly couple the ICE to the wheels than to take the losses of conversion and efficiency is the whole game? Just my thought.

More people will buy it than you guys think

It's a commuter bike aimed at the Asian and European markets. It will lead onto some cool bikes and seeing as it's Kawasaki, there will be a superbike version within 5 years. What about an H2 hybrid hyper cruiser to rival the Diavel and Rocket? Having ridden both, and an Energica Eva Ribelle, I am all in for that bike.

@chrispekel5709

8 ай бұрын

Asian markets? Highly doubtful, this would be waaay too expensive for most asian markets as a commuter bike. This is a rich country bike. The average Asian commuter bike has only in the last few years risen from 125 to 150cc

@PoweredbyRobots

8 ай бұрын

@@chrispekel5709 last time I checked India, Korea and Japan were all in Asia. I clearly stated commuter bike not carry 3 tons of vegetables to market bike

I love the idea of going stealth occasionally and having the gas engine most of the time with the boost for traffic light take offs! The only downside is going to be the price. It will be more expensive than 2024 zx6r.

Can we interrupt the 15 sec boost? Like only need 5 secs to pass and then turn off boost? Also if battery charged up relatively fast after boosting then that’s really not as bad as I think this is.

It could be like a nitrous hit if they gave it real power.

"gas mileage doesn't matter" - lmao no. A factor for why I bought my RS660 because it does great MPG to its power in comparison to most other bikes.

@chrispekel5709

8 ай бұрын

Smelly Euro detected haha

@simonhemingwaygmail

3 ай бұрын

​@chrispekel5709 or maybe I line 77mpg

Van Driessen raises some good points, as usual. It's also nice to see Kawasaki push the boundaries, like Yamaha. Shame we don't see the same from Honda and Suzuki. I'd never buy one, but I'm excited to see where hybrid technology might lead in the motorcycle market, much as I am for hydrogen combustion, ammonia combustion, and synthetic fuels.

My 2020 SV650 was averaging 60mpg and was still fun to ride.

I do also feel like they’ve missed the mark a little bit. That being said, the ability to quietly get out of the neighborhood in the morning before hearing exhaust notes is appealing.

@aidensnow5017

3 ай бұрын

Exactly, this would be a godsend if someone working night shift wanted to take their bike to work, would get daily use of that aspect of it coming home... 12.5K USD new for this is a bit much, but I personally might get this used in a few year's if the price drops enough.

I’d love to actually see one of these in person at a dealership. The electric version of being quiet would be amazing when doing early morning rides to work through the city

It’s a start. The Corvette E-Ray has some or the same issues. The battery only option last for 3 miles. But I agree with the 500lbs weight on the 451. I picked up the Eliminator and which has a wet weight of 388. It’s truly a gem in this set up and hope you can review it. It will be interesting if it sells at 12k and hopefully the they offer a warranty longer than 12 months. The entire MC industry will be watching closely.

Ya good idea..but 15 seconds. At least can be used again after cool down. Might be nice to come off light or out of corners. As with their electric ones proof of concept and test before bigger. But too expensive and not enough taste of what to come

Up until March1st of 2023 I was the owner of a '94 buttercup yellow Yamaha V-Max. Without riding it aggressively it got 22.5 MPG I can only imagine how bad it would be if I got rough with it on the road. Since I have three other Honda motorcycles, I traded it in on a '23 black Honda Grom which when ridden at 26MPH in third gear will deliver 155MPG

SOUNDS LIKE F1 tech... ERS are an F1 car's Energy Recovery Systems. These harvest electrical energy over the course of a lap, giving drivers a power boost that can be used to attack or defend during a grand prix. The ERS can generate an extra 160hp for around half a minute per lap. Two components form the ERS: the Motor Generator Unit - Heat (MGU-H) and Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic (MGU-K). The MGU-H recycles waste heat from the turbocharger, while the MGU-K recovers lost energy from the braking system. The electricity produced is kept in the Energy Store (ES); usually a battery made up of lithium-ion cells.

I’d bet 50-60 H/P ICE bikes get incredibly mileage already

Since it was stretched six inches, I don't understand why they could not use the motor from the Ninja 650 But still be a hybrid

@spitescorner

8 ай бұрын

Good point. With a longer wheel base they could put a bigger engine or maybe a bigger battery/motor combo

@brandonclement

8 ай бұрын

@@spitescorner exactly.. Now it's a Ninja 7 for only 15 seconds at a time 😂 and truthfully that name doesn't fit it as a lot of people would assume it is going to be in the same class as an MT07, When clearly it's not..

this is a gen 1 product, this is a wait and see type of situation

It’s a lot of hardware to squeeze into a two wheeled machine, hence the extra weight and size. But like you, i was hoping for more (650cc parallel twin + electric motor) making somewhere near 100hp combined weighing about 485lbs. Too much to ask?

@hpenvy1106

8 ай бұрын

You know, being constrained by 3 dimensions is just really limiting

Sick, you got the Ghosthorse just casually hanging around.

Even though it isn’t the point of the video, super excited about the Mach V helmet. Really want to hear your opinion on it!

A hybrid should be launched on a sport tourer, a full dresser or an adventure/adv tourer. These numbers are kLR like, put them in a KLR. KLR riders have been salivating over the hope of a diesel powered klr for decades specifically for range and milage. Swing and miss not a sportbike

@Ramonatho

8 ай бұрын

It really seems like Kawi is obligating themselves to making any new tech go in a ninja. I guess they think their brand wouldn't exist unless ninjas were the most equipped bikes in their classes.

@ShaunHensley

8 ай бұрын

@@Ramonatho You're right. I still think ADV ergos are superior, my old KLR is the most comfortable bike I've ever had

@rienkhoek4169

8 ай бұрын

The diesel exists 😅

@ShaunHensley

8 ай бұрын

@@rienkhoek4169 Vaporware 😂

Would make sense in your central Euro Capital cities where they are banning or super taxing ICE engines

I thought it was cool until I found out it was 450cc. I already have a 400cc my next step is a 600

I feel like that even if the bike isn´t gonna be the best it will still be important for the developement of hybrid motorcycles. A bit like the early toyota prius I reckon.

U think there is a lot of potential, but the boost is too weak. But just think of a 650 which has 80hp stock but can boost to 120 with instand torque for a couple seconds. An MT07 that has a 'feel like an MT10 for 10 seconds' mode. But in the meantime also doing 25km to 1L.

Good Prophecy! Equally good motorcycle. Kawasaki always has knack to surprise everyway.

Would be a great system on the versys

Biggest thing for me is not being able to control the gear shifting. The more I think about it, the more jarring it sounds to have a bike shift on its own. I'd hate for it to shift halfway through a turn or something. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that. I pretty sure it's auto

@Drobium77

2 ай бұрын

We'd have to see the reviews. so far I heard that the auto gear changes are a bit clunky, but it's basically a first generation of a huge potential range of bikes

Honestly i think the ninja 7 is gonna turn out to be like the "holy trinity" supercars. Its groundbreaking for the theory of fast cars being hybrids and not just extending range and in 5 years or so if companies put in enough time high performance hybrids could be a thing but as it stands its a unique breakout. The only thing that scares me is how much time and effort kawi put into it and there not being any competition. The competition and 3 companies doing the holy trinity is why it caught on. As a singular item the ninja 7 doesn't appear to make a big stir and there isn't a push to improve. Hoping it starts SOMETHING cause seeing an R2E and a GSX-E400 would be cool and again competition brings improvement

The only thing I'm disappointed with is they went for 450cc instead of the original 300cc spec which was significantly lighters and less expensive overall, slapped into existing Ninja 400 frame. Sad.

Quick suggestion if this is a good idea. Then what if they make a 125 hybrid?

@spitescorner

8 ай бұрын

That's basically what the Piaggio MP3 scooter was

@thekenthouse6428

8 ай бұрын

Ask Honda to make a hybrid Monkey maybe

i want to know what happened to the leaked R2 and S2 little brothers of the H2

I don't understand why they cheeped out so much on the swing arm. That is just a steel box section.

That helmet is cool looking, just wondering how noisy it is, with those holes on the sides

Finally saw these in the showroom. They have a nice aesthetic, but they won't pull a greasy string out of a cat's butt. Kawasaki Ninja used to mean something. It used to instill fear or apprehension in brand x riders, especially the Italic brand riders. This is lame, even if it is a first step into a new market segment.

2:35 Drag racers. 15 seconds is a lifetime

Now they need to train a whole bunch of technicians on hybrid systems and the dangers. Also they’ll need the necessary safety tools built into their shops. I imagine not many dealers are going to get these in. Let alone work on them.

You’ve already hit the nail on the head “Who Cares” Bikes are about enjoyment not fuel economy A good coffee will do for breakfast thanks

Props to Kawasaki for realising Honda had out-nerd biked the Versys 650 with the NC750 and putting a load of R&D into this heavy hybrid thing. It would have been pretty sweet if the electric motor powered the front wheel separately from the rear and you could use it to creep about at low speed in traffic or reverse the bike. As it stands it's sort of like a bike version of the Honda CR-Z if anyone remembers that thing.

@chrispekel5709

8 ай бұрын

The CRZ was a kind of cool looking total embarrassment as a successor to the CRX which was a good car

@Geshmaal

8 ай бұрын

@@chrispekel5709 tbh it's not a bad choice if you want a sort of unique and compact economy car but it's actually slower than a base Civic without really being more economical...weird one.

It's the price that kills me on this

I could see a beginner on this bike, in first gear, fullish throttle, push the boost button, and dumping the clutch, where the extra 6 inches give them enough reaction time to hopefully slam the throttle close before they take the main loop to pain town.

@AyaWetts

8 ай бұрын

There is no clutch lever... has paddle shift, but the clutch is automatic

@happycamperjack

8 ай бұрын

Exactly, no clutch. So in reality, the flow goes like 1. Press boost button 2. Open throttle

I really, really don’t hate this bike. It looks great, the tech is cool as hell. But I wish they gave us like 80-90 hp, and kept the wheelbase short…. Or, don’t call it a ninja and market it as a standard/commuter bike, which it is. I really hope they keep developing this technology.

while motorcycles do indeed get better fuel mileage than cars, they actually tend to pollute more than cars. Motorcycles, due to cooling, space, and weight limitations lack the emissions equipment that other vehicles tend to contain. Motorcycles typically don't have charcoal vapor canisters, exhaust gas recirculation, multiple catalytic convertors, cylinder deactivation, and tend to run richer than cars...

$7,599 and $7,299 is the cost

@pvt.paula4423

Ай бұрын

in germany its 12.000€

Longer wheelbase so that the higher torque doesn't pull the front up too easily

Why wouldn’t you liquid cool the motor and battery?

Someone should make a 21" electric wheel conversion for ADVs that can give regenerative braking and toggle AWD mode incase your stuck in sand/mud.

As an expat Brit living in the US, I can tell you that most Americans don’t really believe in the rest of the world, even though they buy so many products from China especially. For a small percentage, the rest of the world has “cute” places to “do”.

OK, now we have the added complication of a hybrid system on top of everything else. I could imagine it getting "bricked" in 10 years. Don't expect to keep any electric motorcycle for any length of time beyond 10 years before it gets put out to pasture. Would you be willing to buy a replacement battery pack after you dust-off the bike after it's been sitting for years? Software updates?

Its a dumb idea.... the gas-engine should be the generator, the electric-engine should be the drive motor. Maybe they tried that and couldn't get it balanced out but that is what Trains and Ships now use.

1) Both are motors but one of ‘em is an engine (ICE). 2) It maybe utilizing a KERS system with super-capacitors instead of batteries … such as F1 cars … to lower weight, decrease packaging dimensions, and enhance performance (despite super-caps having a shortened usable duration). 3) It will be a legend for decades ,whether you approve or not, because it beat Honda at it’s own game (fyi Honda innovated hybrid technology). However, Honda displayed their e-Wing trike couple years back and I bet they’re waiting for other manufactures to risk the perils of an uncertain market segment before offering their jewels! 5) Still confused and bewildered as to why there’s not a brake lever under the LT hand, like bicycles and scooters. It ain’t natural … and probably unsafe!

Hey not to get to far off track but, could you do a video if Honda does the two hundred horsepower CB 1000R. This would be a game changer for me. I bought a Rebel 1100 after your review. May up my game. I also love my Insta 360.

It is 40 to 50 years early battery's go boom. Plus even you say when getting on a bike sounds great, that's gone no sound. But a whine.

I'm no more of a fan than you are Spite however it does at least invoke some hope that we may get to keep ICE bikes for longer in the form of Hybrid tech. Hopefully they will get better eh!

lol reminds me of old Escalade and Hylander hybrids....you are using electricity ~2% of the time.

just saw this..great review...always like it because of no B.S. opinion...think Kawasaki just wanted to push it out to soon..could make a go of it if they sell it as a performance bike at a loss..near production cost...that way as they develop it ..better brakes , alum frame lower weight, longer battery they could increase the price...but if they start at say 15k now, then they can only go up ...and out price themselves...gas savings take years to recoup on most hybrids cars due to the increased expense...I think it was about 5 to 6 years as compared to the same none hybrids model

What helmet is that? Never seen it before, looks like an Icon but its not.

@spitescorner

8 ай бұрын

It's a 509 Mach V Commander. I'm working on a review

@archer1681

8 ай бұрын

I got gifted an Icon Airflite and while its a cool looking helmet its terrible for people with glasses, not great for west coast weather and only has long shape to it. I would definitely buy one if its at all better. Can't wait for the review. @@spitescorner

Actually it has different problems which were not mentioned in this video.... - in sport mode transmission is not automatic (like on DCT), but only manual with ability to change gear only with buttons on handlebar (Kawasaki engineers were surprised during tests that someone may want it.....) - in ECO mode engine is going only up to 3500 rpm to reduce fuel consumption (meaning engine will get carbon buildup) - in EV and ECO mode it does not work like regular automatic gearbox or DCT meaning if you need power you will not have any no matter how much you turn gas because there is nothing similar to kickdown and in ECO SW does not allow pass 3500 rpm for engine - I was expecting way higher torque when running in hybrid mode when electric engine with high torque runs together with gas engine. Instead that increase is really low - cheap components which does not deserve Ninja trademark (is worse then Ninja 650 vs ZX-6R) + on EV it is capable to run about 7 miles with that small battery + fully charged battery is in about 12 miles + e-boost works from standstill and on the move + big wheelbase (something very positive compared to 90% of modern production made - excuse me - for asian torso) + price supposed to be slightly over ZX-4RR, but still under ZX-6R

Definitely prefer superchargers. Don't think a 2WD hybrid motorcyle to rival the hybrid supercars will be viable short of a revolution in battery technology (been "around the corner" for decades) because of the space and weight.

That helmet does look cool

I like it though. It’s not too bad. Really amazing for beginners(new riders).

I suspect you're being optimistic on price. The problem with a hybrid is that you have the cost of a gas engine and its 1000 parts plus the cost of an electric drivetrain and its expensive battery. They'd have to be willing to take a pretty serious loss to make it a loss leader

Can I just say it’s crazy they are doing all of this but have yet to figure out how to beef up the versys 300x 😂 they literally have something that could dust up the other ADV space if they would put that eliminator motor in it

@carlosandleon

8 ай бұрын

who’s to say they’re not developing that? And being an owner of a kle 500, I can say that 500cc is underpowered

@matthatter93

8 ай бұрын

@@carlosandleon In the US we never had that bike but I will tell you that if you think your KLe is underpowered go get on the 300x roughly the same weight but with 6 less hp and 10 less torque that you have to strangle to get out of it. You don’t know underpowered lol. I almost bought one until I drove it. And if they are working on it… Then good! Because they should. Many more people would buy a versys 450x over some weird hybrid sport bike.

@carlosandleon

8 ай бұрын

@@matthatter93 I used to ride an XR200. . .

@carlosandleon

8 ай бұрын

@@matthatter93 I’m just saying 650cc is what we need at least to be somewhat comfy on the highway

Isn't the reason you have to wait 15 seconds is for the battery to charge up ? Not for the battery and motor to cool down.

@spitescorner

8 ай бұрын

It sounds like both.

Camera angles, good. Breakfast, breakfast Crunchwrap. The hybrid bike, itself meh, but it’s also the first one. But look at the gen 1 Prius and how far it has come in 20+ years.

Spite, the 360 camera is a travesty 🙁 So many m/cycle KZreadrs are using. They're all going to look back soon at the content they filmed with it and be embarrassed. You could save yr money and just film through a goldfish bowl ! Please ditch that distorting crap 🙏

Honda is working on a 4 cyd. Wing/hybrid with electric motors on the front wheels , yes, a reverse trike!

It will be exciting to see where this tech is in the future but I don't see it taking off right away. Yeah the take off was very impressive but for me it's more about how it would perform on a daily commute and highway with the occasional twisty road. I agree with Spite with the gas milage and saving. As motorcyclists we aren't as concerned as car drivers with saving on gas. Even though my bike isn't great on gas milage it's still better than my car. I had cereal and coffee for breakfast, thanks for asking!

I'm thinking of some Cinnamon Toast Crunch for breakfast. It's 3;30 PM😂 I had a long night at the Sushi bar.

Guys most of us will drive under 30 miles a day, charge at home and use an electric motor to be completely silent! Then you need to make a long trip to another town, use your damn gas, what's not to get about this bike? U can't stall, you can drive at night like an actual ninja. It's real innovation, not just crazy power no one actually needs like all new bikes. Oh yes, the redundancy of riding on electric mode if there is something wrong with the engine is cool too.

Did you ride the bike? I want a ride review!

Bro!!! Surprised to see an agile hanging on the wall!!!!

Hard to believe where we are going today. When I was a young whipper snapper the big news in this industry was the advent of crazy stuff like the VFR v4 format. Not a very big thing by today’s standards.