Is the Hunt Dollar economy broken in Hunt: Showdown?

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:37 Hunt Dollar Economy
04:02 Legendary Duck Hunter
06:13 Devils Moon Trait Permanence
09:13 Dual Wield Hand Crossbow
10:02 Different Hunt Setting
11:31 Hunt Raids
12:24 Outro
#HuntShowdown

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  • @HomeReel
    @HomeReel Жыл бұрын

    How do you feel about the Hunt Dollar economy? Feel free to drop a question for a future video! Discord: discord.gg/VHkhwp8pED

  • @HalfMoonStudios227

    @HalfMoonStudios227

    Жыл бұрын

    1:47 seems pretty Sus

  • @skuawill1820

    @skuawill1820

    Жыл бұрын

    Kinda bad. If i need to provide the solution. More money u have less you get. if u you have less then 1k you get 100% of what you earned, but if u have more then 1k its 90% and so on.

  • @Ratoskr

    @Ratoskr

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the psychological effect of the price of the weapons is still left out. Yes, veteran players who no longer click prestige (or are on 100) have extremely many Hunt dollars and could play every match with the expensive guns. But then the account balance drops again pretty quickly. If you have to come out with Bounty ~3+ times for every time you lose the Hunter, you just inevitably go minus. Yes, Mosin, Uppercut, Avto, etc. are really good weapons. But you still die when the Winfield shoots you in the head. For a while it may go well in the own MMR to profit from the weapon advantage. At some point, however, the matchmaking kicks in and you lose again. This is also the reason why many veteran players still play cheaper weapons. Last but not least... with rank 100, prestige 100 (or the prestige level you wanted to end up at) a high account balance is the only progress bar you have left.

  • @HomeReel

    @HomeReel

    Жыл бұрын

    I have also thought about this, similar to a tax. People that wanna grind can still grind, but you might as well not

  • @johnbraithwaite863

    @johnbraithwaite863

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, the hunt dollars are fine in my opinion, if I put the time in to earning those dollars then I deserve the free reign on what I can buy, I shouldn't be punished because I play the game more or better.

  • @mightystu49
    @mightystu49 Жыл бұрын

    "There are no hispanic gunslingers in the game!" Llorna's Heir: "Am I joke to you?"

  • @seniorfiance
    @seniorfiance Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I have around 400 hours in Hunt. I know this isn't a lot compared to true veterans but my point is that I consistently buy whatever loadout I want and am just a mediocre player. I don't extract with bounty all the time, I don't win all of my fights, but I find myself fluctuating between 30-40k Hunt Dollars. I think that Crytek has built a loot and extract game that take away a lot of gear fear for most players, and though I can't buy an avto every game without putting my bank account at risk, I can have fun even as I go on lose streaks. I think a lot of players just need to break through a mental barrier of "gear fear" and realize they CAN buy, generally, the loadouts they want to and though they may not make money they probably won't break the bank either. But I'm one player, I could be wrong, but this is my experience.

  • @dawidp9845

    @dawidp9845

    Жыл бұрын

    I have similar opinion. I am below average player with a comfortable money cushion. I rarely play mosins or nitros, but not because I can't afford them. Maybe if I took super expensive gear every match I would run out of money, but I prefer variety.

  • @VexingWeeb

    @VexingWeeb

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m a pretty good player , 1.68 k/d 5-6 star (though been trying to derank lol) and I have the same idea. Love that I can bring whatever I want without worrying too much about running out of money unless I buy an expensive kit over and over (I’m usually running between 6-20k , it fluctuates a LOT)

  • @ieatscousers6443

    @ieatscousers6443

    Жыл бұрын

    im constantly gaining hunt dollars even tho im the same, currently at 140k and i keep going up

  • @evanfishsticks8010
    @evanfishsticks8010 Жыл бұрын

    A lot of people (myself included lol) had some trait ideas that we asked about in your community post. I understand why they didn't make it into this video, but I think they could make for a good video similar to this one, where you go through some of your favorite community suggestions for new traits and changes to existing ones. Also, as a fan of the less "hardcore" Hunter skins (Researcher my beloved) I would absolutely buy and play as your Duck Hunter skin! Bonus points if it ends up being something like "Lonely Quack" to poke fun at Lonely Howl

  • @HomeReel

    @HomeReel

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll come back to them :)

  • @TheCosmicAstro-

    @TheCosmicAstro-

    Жыл бұрын

    On the note of traits. What would you think about revamping this trait system so it is no longer tied primarily to the individual hunter and more so you have a loadout of traits or something along those lines so you can enjoy builds that would otherwise be impossible or feel horrible as well as nice quality of life. Rather than seldom being able to interact with the system in a meaningful way as it is currently(not counting the current event allowing you to be able to use traits now lol)

  • @maegnificant

    @maegnificant

    Жыл бұрын

    Another trait idea: seeing footsteps of hunters that passed by recently, just like the one hero in apex legends :)

  • @Grobash
    @Grobash Жыл бұрын

    I don’t personally see the economy thing as a huge issue. Most people that have a disgusting amount of money either play cheaper loadouts a majority of the time, or they’re just winning more games overall. If they’re winning a lot, then they’re going to lose expensive guns less overall anyway. The issue is that most tweaks to the economy will disproportionately affect the players of lower skill IMO.

  • @gallyxinioch2102

    @gallyxinioch2102

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I mean, there's no point in making a, for example mosin cost three times as much, since high skill players will still have the money to buy it, while the lower skilled people wont be able to afford it (unless they grind some free hunters). Nerfing the high-cost guns also isnt that viable since people stop using them and use the cheaper (and better) alternatives or stop using them at all (Dolch could be the case, although its still a pretty solid weapon, though a far cry from what a menace it used to be)

  • @ryanbolson23

    @ryanbolson23

    Жыл бұрын

    This is 100% it, the problem is that no one has a reason to prestige and aren't having their account banks reset. So players who have played a long time are well beyond rich, but new or bad players are struggling. So increasing the price of a weapon as a "balancing" option is asinine because the people who use the weapon that are a menace with it will still continue to use them, it just puts a greater divide between them and other players. and with smurf accounts and people queuing with a 1 star on their team to cheat the MMR system as it is just makes it feel even worse.

  • @groovi35

    @groovi35

    Жыл бұрын

    same opinion, dont see why the economy is a issue and why people talk about it like it is. Its really bad in other games where its purposely done extremely difficult to earn certain things in game, almost forcing you to buy them with real money. Its fair in hunt imo

  • @bigbrotheriswatching1190

    @bigbrotheriswatching1190

    Жыл бұрын

    So tldr skill issue

  • @kyloren3693

    @kyloren3693

    Жыл бұрын

    The economy isn't the problem right now.... it's sleazy people joining random teams with smurf accounts, and then leading them into groups of theor friends to k/d farming that's killing the game... it's actually ruined any enjoyment of this game for me lately.

  • @Lieutenant_Dude
    @Lieutenant_Dude Жыл бұрын

    One way to make Hunt dollars more useful would be to make refunding traits cost 500 hunt dollars instead of blood bonds. That way you burn through hunt dollars crafting the traits to your preference and that might help use the hunt dollar stock piles that people would otherwise have.

  • @milesmiller3661

    @milesmiller3661

    Жыл бұрын

    one of the best ideas i’ve seen yet

  • @MentorX14

    @MentorX14

    Жыл бұрын

    They already said that this is planned to be the case in a Developer Stream but never changed it. Probally due to their New BB mechanics.

  • @TheLazyFinn

    @TheLazyFinn

    Жыл бұрын

    Just occurred to me, would making some kind of demand system work? Like then the whales buy fancy guns but it will cost them more and more meanwhile less used guns would be cheaper, this could be coupled with supply making simpler guns more available so that more exotic guns would go more expensive faster (think importing costs for foreign weapons) which could mean that mosins and lebels for example would become more rare but springfield long ammo would be more available

  • @tonymorris4335

    @tonymorris4335

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MentorX14 Hopefully not at $500 dollars though. Fuck it shouldn't cost me more to get rid of poison sense than to buy an uppercut.

  • @himynameischrisAVA

    @himynameischrisAVA

    Жыл бұрын

    I would actually use that feature if that were the case. I never remove traits because I refuse to use BBS to do it

  • @Doodleschmit
    @Doodleschmit Жыл бұрын

    I've love to see more Q&A videos like this one. I really like your measured approach to answering questions since so many content creators can make wild assumptions that can fall apart after thinking about it for another 3 minutes. Also, I would gladly play as Duck Hunt: the Showdown.

  • @zVersee
    @zVersee Жыл бұрын

    I’d love to try a casual Gun Game mode with Hunt weapons. Free for all with revives in a single compound, classic Gun Game mode rules where it cycles through a list of weapons and you advance to the next one when you kill someone - first person to finish the list wins. Stab-kills sets back the killed player by one weapon in the list. Perhaps it wouldn’t fit Hunt at all, but I’m still so curious how it’d feel like and maybe it could be a good warm-up mode.

  • @IndorilNerevar

    @IndorilNerevar

    Жыл бұрын

    We need another mode

  • @Schimml0rd

    @Schimml0rd

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a warm up mode tho?

  • @jffry890

    @jffry890

    Жыл бұрын

    A limited-time mode would be awesome. Say monthly or bi-monthly for a week or a weekend at a time. A shakeup to the normal gameplay loop would be nice since Quickplay isn't large enough of a change for me to be interested in it.

  • @jamesproimos
    @jamesproimos Жыл бұрын

    A dollar cap would actually make me bring MORE expensive loadouts on average though. Despite having a ton of hunt dollars I tend to just use free hunters so I can net more money (just for the sake of making my money pile bigger). If my money was capped it would lose its value.

  • @cassidy8307

    @cassidy8307

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm a never prestiger sitting on 80k at the moment. Part of my fun is using cheap stuff sometimes to see how far I can get. If there was a cap, i'd definitely be blowing it on mosins and nitros a lot more often

  • @jamesproimos

    @jamesproimos

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly, if I was capped on money I'd feel obligated to spend it. Otherwise my goal is to see if I can break the UI/counter for money. (though my guess is I'd need over 2.1 billion to roll it over)

  • @wadelewis3286

    @wadelewis3286

    Жыл бұрын

    How about a dollar cap on loadouts? An amount that expands for each victory with the hunter.

  • @jamesproimos

    @jamesproimos

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@wadelewis3286 that would still result in an increase in price to my average loadout and seems a bit unnecessarily complicated. I just don't really think this is a problem that needs solving as the equipment in this game doesn't matter very much.

  • @wadelewis3286

    @wadelewis3286

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesproimos if you don't think there is an issue, then that's fine. But I don't see how that would increase the cost of your loadouts, if you are limited by the cap per loadouts. I will take your point on it being overly complicated though

  • @kudumsuz5075
    @kudumsuz5075 Жыл бұрын

    My only problem with economy is how game ONLY rewards taking bounty to extraction. Did you get 8 kills and died to the last guy? Good,you got nothing. It is almost feels like game punishes you for "playing" it. I believe this is the biggest reason why most of the hunt players are too passive. Since almost only income is bounty and most of the players can't extract with bounty , they don't want to take any risk. This is not a directly problem for me,i have enough dollars(i dont prestige) and i like playing aggressive but it becomes so boring to play with and againts passive players. Some of you will say: "well,it makes sense. It is a extraction game.". I know, i just want to get 50-100 dollar per hunter i killed and looted(once per hunter,no revives). And save the money even if i die at the end. I only play this game for PvP actions,and i just want people to be more eager to get in PvP action,not run away from it...

  • @itszaque5031
    @itszaque5031 Жыл бұрын

    The economy is balanced for prestiging while the unlockable gear isnt. As a result I find myself in a weird struggle where I can either decide to continuously prestige and use more basic weapons and tools for months on end, or I can take a break from prestige and actually try out fun variants of the more expensive guns and tools. I’ve never ran an Automat that I bought and have only ran the Nitro and the Dolch each a handful of times, despite over 500 hours in the game with a 1.5 k/d. The new changes to money and the unlocking order of gear helps a bit with this, but I still feel like they need to work on making some gear easier to unlock/giving you alternate ways to unlock things other than using the earlier variants to gain xp.

  • @Schimml0rd

    @Schimml0rd

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that's kinda why I stopped: why prestige if it nukes your money, meanwhile my friends just spam mosins instead -.- And why play if you can't prestige

  • @shockmaker1524
    @shockmaker1524 Жыл бұрын

    Split prestige into 2 viable paths: "Getting robbed" prestige: where you lose all of your collected money but keep your unlocks and up to 2 guns/tools/consumables per variant. (No contrabands) And "spoiled kid hunter" prestige: where you keep all of your money (heritage from your oil magnate papa) but have 0 variants unlocked and you have to unlock everything from 0.

  • @lmpure_4542
    @lmpure_4542 Жыл бұрын

    Hunt is an already unique fantasy setting, props to them for trying their hardest. Darksight is something similar to “Warging” in Game of Thrones along with the monsters and unique mythology that other settings haven’t really tried their hand at (Haitian Voodoo) I think this game’s setting is great and really delivers.

  • @qwergg

    @qwergg

    Жыл бұрын

    it's just a weird-west setting. It's not common but it's not unique either, only big difference is the swamps and occult focus.

  • @idkjustme4869

    @idkjustme4869

    Жыл бұрын

    @@qwergg in a broad perspective ye, a Wild West 1890 setting isn’t the most unique, but the atmosphere and the focus on sounds make it much more special

  • @Prom591
    @Prom591 Жыл бұрын

    Adding timers to buying guns, similar to Escape from Tarkov traders, is an idea that could help limit the consistent use of things like Mosins and diversify the types of loadouts people run into. It's not an idea I like, but it's an idea lol.

  • @algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286

    @algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286

    Жыл бұрын

    If you don't like it, don't suggest it. They might actually implement it if you say it, and then you're going to be sitting here looking like an idiot wishing you had not opened your big stupid mouth.

  • @PenitusVox
    @PenitusVox Жыл бұрын

    I'd love a game that's like Hunt Showdown but sci-fi. When I say "like Hunt Showdown" I include the slow-firing weapons. You could easily come up with a reason for this. Everyone is using sci-fi armor/shielding that requires lasers to power up or rail guns that can only shoot one massive bolt at a time, etc. One reason I stopped playing Cycle was the bulletsponge type gameplay. I like when each bullet that hits is meaningful.

  • @chocopie1165
    @chocopie1165 Жыл бұрын

    If a solo is able to wipe a whole squad of 3, but trades with the last guy, they should be able to revive and “win” the fight

  • @erddun

    @erddun

    Жыл бұрын

    i think this would be good use for the necrosis self revive perk. not so that you can just revive rigth away but if you trade with the guy who killed you

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    self necro should comeback but as some sort of respawn on the edge of the map thing. Reviving yourself right on spot is a stupid coin flip which works dumb in both ways. On one side you have a privilege of not suffering from trades and you can even finish off squads if they are not sure you are solo (fight happened quickly and suddenly). On the other side if they know you are solo, you have no chance of reviving yourself at all. Which is why I think current implementation of solo necro is super dumb for both sides, either you are the one who gets rekt by duos/trios who know you can revive yourself or you are duo/trio that got rekt by not knowing that guy was solo.

  • @captain_duck0o084
    @captain_duck0o084 Жыл бұрын

    I always found the hunt dollar economy an interesting topic , nice to see someone finally cover it

  • @dann112211
    @dann112211 Жыл бұрын

    The duck hunter would be a fire ass skin

  • @ryangray5558
    @ryangray5558 Жыл бұрын

    Hey home just wanted to say that I dont usually watch your videos but this one about game-theory (mostly) really grabbed my attention. Keep em comin

  • @amuren3563
    @amuren3563 Жыл бұрын

    i think relentless actually does help the health of the game. it really helps against those lucky one taps, you know the ones I'm talking about, the one where the opponent panics and spins and gets a single lucky shot. then you watch him and he just... cant hit anything after. its really frustrating to know that person made you one shot to long for the rest of the game so when you fight an actually good opponent, youre fighting a severe uphill battle

  • @raphaelgoncalves79

    @raphaelgoncalves79

    Жыл бұрын

    I understand your point and have myself felt frustrated about lucky shots (or unlucky streaks as I usually call, because when I get headshot, i get it in like 4-5 games in a row, usually in a single shot), but, on the other hand, let's be honest: absolutely no one can say all their good shots are pure skill, 100% calculated stuff. It's kinda a factor of this type of game, luck plays its part, taking off the penalty of getting downed would hurt more and it would help imo.

  • @MinMaxist
    @MinMaxist Жыл бұрын

    Wait, HomeReel as an official discord? You mean a place where cool people can chill together, hang out to play hunt, chat about the game (other other topics), and even give topic recommendations for Home to cover in the videos? Wow!

  • @napalmbom32
    @napalmbom32 Жыл бұрын

    My hunt balance sits around 70k, but at the same time I prefer to use cheaper options out of preference. Edit: I think the way to balance things would possibly have to be a damage / ammo change.

  • @whrskr1507
    @whrskr1507 Жыл бұрын

    Really like this series, keep it up!

  • @Piecemaker96
    @Piecemaker96 Жыл бұрын

    The Duck Hunter should blow a goofy duck whistle as their lobby intro

  • @bonster101
    @bonster101 Жыл бұрын

    I went from 150k to 210k because of grounded pact.

  • @DatsWhatHeSaid

    @DatsWhatHeSaid

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah, fellow solo enjoyer!🤠

  • @mysteryman8667
    @mysteryman8667 Жыл бұрын

    Personally I hate the necro self revive. While it does make fighting solo more viable I find that whenever I come across a solo I end up just camping the body while I burn it, or using concertina and beartraps if I have them. From what i've seen online this seems to be the trend with other players. Basically I don't like how much it slows down the gameplay, but I would still like for their to be someway to play hunt solo (not including quickplay) without being at a distinct disadvantage; ie a solomode or something. ps. I like the duck hunter idea :)

  • @danielbaker5365

    @danielbaker5365

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad other people say this. Easy fix for me. Force all self revives to happen within 20 or 30 seconds of dying. Had to babysit 2 bodies for 10 minutes the other day. Extremely not fun

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielbaker5365 or make it revive people not right on spot but somewhere else away from the place where actual fight happened. This way this solo guy has another chance to comeback for you and you don't have to camp the body.

  • @techn0phile94
    @techn0phile94 Жыл бұрын

    I see some comments from people about putting a cap on hunt dollars and I think that's the most viable solution without completely overhauling the game's economy. I would be cool with a 10k-20k cap. I love the content format too. Would definitely enjoy more Q&A style vids like this.

  • @AtomFA

    @AtomFA

    Жыл бұрын

    you get like 40k for just being new at the game btw

  • @NoName......

    @NoName......

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AtomFA No you dont?

  • @yining200

    @yining200

    Жыл бұрын

    They need to encourage prestiging instead of punishing people with more money. Why would I make my next month of playing the game miserable for one single skin? Something else they can do is to have a dollar shop where you can buy instances of skins for hunt dollars to encourage people spending more.

  • @dgnx1888

    @dgnx1888

    Жыл бұрын

    this would be a terrible idea, as it would force players who like to stack money to use even more expensive loadouts. So meta weapons would be everywhere

  • @heibk-2019

    @heibk-2019

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AtomFA you start with 4k and get another like 4k if you verify your email

  • @scoon6196
    @scoon6196 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe repeated purchases on weapons over $400 can be increased per purchase until a set of matches played. Or maybe a rebalance of the double sparks pistols overall as the best ammo bandolier. It might be as easy as balancing those pistols first.

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    Or nerf avtomat. By either removing full auto feature from it or make it use only special ammo and give it a slightly bigger amount than we currently have. Even though double sparks pistol is unusable I believe I don't even know why it exists. A single sparks pistol is a great addition to the game but why make it dualies, even tho it doesn't make sense to have them unless you want extra ammo. It's very unlikely you'll hit with two of them before reloading each one xD

  • @phrikaphrak40k

    @phrikaphrak40k

    Жыл бұрын

    @Khaletsky trust me when I say you do not want the avto to have its full auto removed. Having a long ammo semi-auto DMR with a 15 round mag will bring so much pain. Trust me

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    @@phrikaphrak40k make it at least burst 2 shots, if it underperforms make it 3 and it will be fine still.

  • @scoon6196

    @scoon6196

    Жыл бұрын

    The avto is 3 round burst to force you to use more ammo. The recoil usually keeps in check at range. Special ammo is a decent idea.

  • @princek650
    @princek650 Жыл бұрын

    i honestly think dual hand-crossbows would be a bad idea. a single handcrossbow is already very powerful with a killrange farther than the romero plus it applies bleed. and it is a single slot weapon. sure it is not easy to use but it is basically a slow slug. i could be wrong since it has not being tested but i think two hand crossbows would be too strong.

  • @stoutvt
    @stoutvt Жыл бұрын

    I feel like the in-match purchasing of certain more powerful upgrades would actually be a good thing to keep, rather than moving these upgrades into the normal trait pool. They still need heavily changed, especially for death cheat, but I liked the idea of adding extra incentives to go out of your way AWAY from the hunt and risk being late to the boss/being ambushed at the caravans. In exchange, you would have a (hopefully less powerful) bonus for the rest of the match

  • @lynxxlynxx

    @lynxxlynxx

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like even more camping and much less meeting at the boss layer and having fun.

  • @Deathwhisper2
    @Deathwhisper2 Жыл бұрын

    I think the idea with pledge marks should stay as a limiting factor for some perks. Like 2 ways of getting pledge marks will work regardless of event. Banish a boss or loot a hunter. I really would love to have the t1 Lunar perk as a permanent addition. If thinking without pledge marks, how about "You lose a health chunk only on your 2nd down" would make 3 big bar hunters better. (I don't think they are bad, but more often than not it is a downside)

  • @exoblade7620

    @exoblade7620

    Жыл бұрын

    sounds dope, also some rebalancing about health bars would be pretty good, recently i had a fight where i solo killed another solo, he picked himself up 2 times, i used all of my revolver ammo so when i reloaded he picked himslef up for the 3rd time and shottyd me insta...i had 3 large hp bars so after 2 downs i couldnt do shit....i was furius

  • @cryowisp3267
    @cryowisp3267 Жыл бұрын

    I think a good fix for the overuse of things like nitro and autov is make those types of gun a stockpile gun; a set number of guns you can use before they need to be shipped in again, either you need to pay for a shipment (like 20k-50k to get like 5-10 guns) or you need to wait until they come (1-3 days for like 5-10 guns)

  • @colekennedy8041

    @colekennedy8041

    Жыл бұрын

    that sounds stupid

  • @cryowisp3267

    @cryowisp3267

    Жыл бұрын

    @@colekennedy8041 yes but I'm just spitballing

  • @shiekastate
    @shiekastate Жыл бұрын

    I'm sitting on over 130k, and I generally run around $500-$700 loadouts. I sometimes run sweaty meta, but I just run what I feel like running. I have an absolute ton of contraband that I hoard for no reason, and that's how I feel about money, too; I like seeing it increase. If they put a cap on it, one of my biggest reasons for playing is gone, because prestiging is a waste.

  • @davidlindsay6450
    @davidlindsay6450 Жыл бұрын

    The thing people never talk about with the economy is how players actually amass the amount of money they have. When you break it down from an EV standpoint, expensive builds do not return the money you put into them on average. I am a player that has a huge pile of cash and could pretty much bring whatever I want for a year and still not be poor, but the reality is my usual build costs under 500 hunt bucks to bring. The only time I would bring a mosin tier gun is when I loot it off another hunter besides that the most expensive gun I bring is the vet with special ammo. If you only bring builds that costs high prices you will almost always lose money in the long run. The reality is most rich players are rich because they have gotten super good at using crossbows and Winfield's, not because they bring "meta" load outs.

  • @lubo3934

    @lubo3934

    Жыл бұрын

    Meh somewhat true but I buy nitros, mosins, slugs, uppercuts all the time as soon as I unlock them again basically, because I'm am still prestigning. I'm in high 5 star 6 star lobbies, and I stay around 10 -12k pretty consistently.

  • @FlavouryWater
    @FlavouryWater Жыл бұрын

    Do you think the current MMR distribution is in a good spot? I personally think there should be another tier in between 4 and 5 stars. I've always felt 4 stars is the fun zone and 5 stars is all pain

  • @JackBWakeham

    @JackBWakeham

    Жыл бұрын

    Just needs a re-distribution, I think 4 star is "average" atm, that should be 3 star, so they just need to work on a re-balance.

  • @t-dogthedowgydog4660
    @t-dogthedowgydog4660 Жыл бұрын

    Just got hunt last week and loving it! Your account has been very informative and a great listen Was wondering, are you going to do a hunting bow “gun” review? It’s my go-to weapon, paired with akimbo Lemats is my favourite loadout Sorry if this is asked lots!

  • @bilboswaggings
    @bilboswaggings Жыл бұрын

    I play between 4 and 6 star lobbies (depending on if I play with friends who play less) At all of those levels I feel that all weapons are nicely represented (outside of the obviously rare winfield vandal and precision revolvers because those are two slot so they see little usage) Yes 1/3 of 6 star lobbies have an avto player but it's not like they win all the time anyway Avto would see way less usage if it somehow got less ammo with sparks pistol ammo box combo Maybe they should make avto special ammo, so you could only use the box for it (way less ammo, but you actually would have a secondary)

  • @Koszarek1911

    @Koszarek1911

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here, I end up in 4/5 star lobbys and I feel like there is a solid diversity of loadouts. The game doesn't feel meta slaved, and it doesn't really seem like I'm dumpster people through sheer load out dominance either. The reverse is true as well, typically if I feel outgunned it was situational circumstances like getting shotgunned in a building while running a rifle/pistol. Things like Avtos or Nitros are downright rare to see, from my experience.

  • @Bullet.
    @Bullet. Жыл бұрын

    "Damn, that guy's a quack-shot"

  • @MackieLevyn
    @MackieLevyn Жыл бұрын

    What do you think about negative traits? As in traits that give you points back for some sort of negative effect. Here's a goofy example: Paranoid: you occasionally hear sound that aren't really there but you get +4 points or something.

  • @maxoneil1323
    @maxoneil1323 Жыл бұрын

    for the hunt dollar thing you could make skins from previuos events available for like 100k hunt dollars each or even more depending on how much these players really have

  • @MyViolador
    @MyViolador Жыл бұрын

    Cool concept of the duck hunter. With the Fire event im surprised they didnt released a firefighter of that time.

  • @Sun-Tzu-
    @Sun-Tzu- Жыл бұрын

    They could implement a weapon power to Hunter xp ratio. So extracting with 12 kills with an Avtomat and a Dolch would only give you like 10 Trait Point. But a server wipe with a combat axe and a derringer would get you 50.

  • @MrSpooky21
    @MrSpooky21 Жыл бұрын

    Great video HR😎

  • @itszaque5031
    @itszaque5031 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for having us in your home, Home.

  • @Chevelle65x
    @Chevelle65x Жыл бұрын

    For balance purposes, the first thing I thought of for load outs is to create a Draft Kings type cost load out. You won’t have a cap of how much you could spend. If you bought an expensive gun then you would have to spend less on a side arm, throwables, or healing.

  • @KooblayKhan
    @KooblayKhan Жыл бұрын

    In regrads to the economy, It's possible that its meant to lower the amount of nitros/etc in lower skilled matches, where players are less likely to have cash. Like a Nitro is great, and in a skilled players hands, it's a monster...but I've also won against those monsters, many times, I have a whole slew of collected uppercuts and nitros and Idk what to do with them. I think a Nitro is less powerful at a higher MMR as people are better at combatting it, than at a lower MMR is the idea. So hunt dollar stuff may help with that.

  • @qazertland2028
    @qazertland2028 Жыл бұрын

    Letting people respec traits with hunt dollars would be nice. Whether it's a legendary hunter that rolled bad traits, or if you already have a leveled hunter with skills beneficial to rifles per say, that you'd like to respec to make better use of bows instead.

  • @randylee7888
    @randylee7888 Жыл бұрын

    I think that the best way to fix the economy is to add a "scarcity" system. When a player has over certain amount of hunt dollars which would be relatively low (about 15,000 or 20,000) then the scarcity effect kicks in until you drop beneath that amount at which point things turn back to normal. The scarcity effect essentially makes guns more expensive each time you buy them. A small increase of like 2-5 percent in price. It will both balance the economy, and have some effect at varying loadouts (either vary a loadout to hold on to your money longer, or burn funds to run the same load out often). It also leaves enough funds in the account where players don't feel poor, but not enough to run super expensive loadouts all the time.

  • @fiveforbiting
    @fiveforbiting Жыл бұрын

    I believe not being broke in Hunt is like a second job. Plus the economy hinders the use of more varied loadouts, and rewards bush camping. The economy punishes everything from bad luck, bad plays, to poor balance and game bugs. Taking a Mosin or Avto doesn't mean you won't be one-tapped or mobbed by AI during a gunfight. Also... rebalance dual pistols properly for Christ's sake.

  • @TheWanderersWit
    @TheWanderersWit Жыл бұрын

    In your example regarding the Nitro being such a small percentage of overall wealth, while that's true and makes it easy to shrug off purchasing one, losing 10 of them in a night is still going to be felt. I'm right around 400k. I didn't get there by dropping 2k per loadout. When people with a lot of hunt bucks are on a losing streak then bringing Dolch Precisions into every match isn't something they're likely to do. Balancing around price does work for the majority of the population, and for those that it doesn't work as well for because of a large amount in the bank, it either operates as a control limiting further acquisition of money or still serves the same purpose because they didn't get there by not acknowledging the costs.

  • @SkystormerX
    @SkystormerX7 ай бұрын

    I really like the idea for 2 teams single compound quickplay

  • @Lieutenant_Dude
    @Lieutenant_Dude Жыл бұрын

    For a new skin, I would like to see a few based on spaghetti western characters. One modeled after Lee Van Cleef would be griffin awesome.

  • @kepipek6598
    @kepipek6598 Жыл бұрын

    I really wish they had rifle sheaths and pistol holsters. I know its a small detail that really in any other fps game, but it would be a very neat detail.

  • @noahleach7690

    @noahleach7690

    Жыл бұрын

    theres ten billion things they need to add before this

  • @danchovanes2612
    @danchovanes2612 Жыл бұрын

    I hit $120k and have basically stayed locked there. I take a free hunter, whatever guns I want, med kit + melee + choke + 2x healing shots + 1x stamina shot. If money starts dropping hard maybe I take fewer meds and cheaper (or contraband) guns for a bit

  • @Scribbles69
    @Scribbles69 Жыл бұрын

    I havent used a uppercut since but I've also always loved the pax so it was an easy transition

  • @ArmadilloManiac
    @ArmadilloManiac Жыл бұрын

    I think that the current event traits are a bit overpowered. Even though I love using them. Many of the points you made of them I agree. The one thing I'd liked removed from the game, is the Avtomat. It has no place in this game and it's inclusion makes no sense to me. It's even modelled on a Canadian wwI rifle, the Huot Automatic rifle, so the timeline isn't even logical. I hate this weapon. LoL. Great video Bud. PS There are some Blender tutorials on YT 🤣

  • @kevvdo2851

    @kevvdo2851

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, I hate the avto so much. Maybe if they make it special ammo it will be pickt less

  • @AnonOmis1000
    @AnonOmis1000 Жыл бұрын

    I want to see a bee keeper hunter and a safari hunter skin. Like the guy who was chasing Robin Williams in Jumanji

  • @tiredtomoko7889
    @tiredtomoko7889 Жыл бұрын

    What do you think about adding the lever action Spencer Carbine to the game it would be a cheaper alternative to the Winfield only at 40 hunt dollars like its real-world equivalent at the time it would also have a unique reloading animation where you load the ammo in the buttstock via a tubular magazine?

  • @Josh-qu1gs
    @Josh-qu1gs Жыл бұрын

    What do you think about adding another layer to the maps? Sometimes, it's not very fun when the bosses are dead in the first 3 minutes. Or adding a debuff against bosses and with every clue you get it reduces the debuff. With an outer extra layer, you could do 3 boss bounties. Or he'll maybe just a special map designed like that. Thay way no bosses are on the outer layer.

  • @calebschmucker4698

    @calebschmucker4698

    Жыл бұрын

    This is an interesting idea, maybe you could also add the ability to "steal" clues off of the bodies of other players so if you find the bounty early, there's an advantage to trying to kill other players then go to their bodies to get the debuff.

  • @Josh-qu1gs

    @Josh-qu1gs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@calebschmucker4698 I like it, adds to to a mix of play styles

  • @lynxxlynxx

    @lynxxlynxx

    Жыл бұрын

    Make it so that the boss only spawns after one team has found 3 clues. Similar to qp.

  • @hextech3161
    @hextech3161 Жыл бұрын

    100% agree with the gun fight mode. You could even have 3 teams, or have a bunch of teams as duos. One compound, they already have the out of bounds area for quick play. Each round has the countdown from extraction, the round begins and the Hunt hum plays. I’d like to see that idea evolved as well and if people really liked it they could have a ranked match and you could have seasonal reward skins for achieving different ranks. They could also have a point system sort of like call of duty use to do in black ops. And let people actually take in different weapons and kits, making 1 mele weapon of your choice and med kit default. Perks and power weapons could be put on the map and marked like halo, when someone picks it up it gives you a message just like with a bounty. I’d really really really love to see a pvp focused mode like this. If rounds drew on too long there could be a point where eventually all players are granted endless dark sight to encourage pushing. Or you could have a growing amount if AI spawn at the perimeter of the compound, or even just have a circle spawn in the middle you need to capture. I just want more hunt PvP and less Shift W (Sorry for long comment, Hunt would be so smart to do this, and doing it like you said at first would take very little work, everything is already in place, it would just be UI stuff)

  • @elgringofeo9348
    @elgringofeo9348 Жыл бұрын

    Id add the crafting system, want a avtomat? Find or buy a mosin, find the parts in the maps (drum mag, barrel, receiver) and combine them in the menu, you cant buy the gun only earn it, and you can apply this to alot of the high tier guns, for the dooch you need a borhiem and the nitro need a db, uppercut needs pax, you can actually use this to mod guns, for the chain pistol u need a caldwell, want a martini bayonet, get the base gun and find a bayonet, hell maybe we can have a certain amount of mods on 1 gun, like a winfield with a dead eye and the blade on the stock

  • @normalbird8040
    @normalbird8040 Жыл бұрын

    I have been thinking about something like a duck boss cause we already have a crow boss (Scrapbeak) and i think it would fit in great the only other bird we would need as a boss would be chicken and i am all for that what are your thoughts on some new bosses

  • @gerami8902
    @gerami8902 Жыл бұрын

    My new game mode would be the same thing, random of the big compounds (either Prison or Church, either Fort, Lawson station) but with 3-4 teams there. Cuz thatd be fun for the chaos

  • @davidmcrae4791
    @davidmcrae4791 Жыл бұрын

    that duck hunter skin looks awesome

  • @ZergleJerk
    @ZergleJerk Жыл бұрын

    I hover around $30-$40K. Not because i'm good. But because my favorite guns tend to be cheaper. I bet that for a lot of people, they have a decent Hunt Bux Account because they use guns that cost $200 or less because that is what they learned the game on and have gotten used to. I almost never touch shotguns other than the Romero or Rival. I love the LeMat Carbine and use that in place of all the other more expensive 3 slot rifles.

  • @Keyboardwarrior1337
    @Keyboardwarrior1337 Жыл бұрын

    What do you think about the idea of flour sacks? Either in the environment or as a throwable (both?) That create a cloud of flour that ignite if a spark is made within?

  • @wowmortalatis
    @wowmortalatis Жыл бұрын

    Economic wise perhaps they could do something along the lines of a seasonal reset type thing, the problem with all the "fixes" on this issue is that theyre mostly all or nothing fixes, either they wipe the slate clean type of deal and all the long time players are pissed, or they make changes to costs which doesnt effect the rich in the slightest and merely makes the gap between them bigger.

  • @pigeon21st73
    @pigeon21st73 Жыл бұрын

    great video, as always reel. so, i have a trait idea for a long time now. basically this trait will let you precicely aim one gun at a time when dual wielding. this trait allows wider use of dual wielding which i personally dont enjoy much but it annoys me in dual wielding that you cant aim down sights with one of your guns. ofc it would be high cost perk and i think that aiming down sights thing would have low fire rate so you cant spam insanely accurate shots with dual wielding rate of fire. what do you think of that?

  • @henrydutton3055
    @henrydutton3055 Жыл бұрын

    Hey man, love these videos, huge fan of your Q&As. A question I have, which might be a little too big for a simple answer - you mentioned the prestige system, and I absolutely agree with you - I have close to 400hrs in the game, am 4*, but haven't prestiged once - I just don't see the point in it. So, in your opinion, what do they have to do to make Prestige worth it? What would you like to see? Keep up the great content!

  • @thetruth9803
    @thetruth9803 Жыл бұрын

    only playing hunt for a few weeks but they should maybe just enable skin purchases with hunt dollars similar to league of legends (or other games). You can still pay money to buy skins the quick way but you can also grind for it. If you could buy skins for 50-100k hunt dollars it would give people an way to spend they hunt dollars and it would also better reward grinding for hunt dollars - a playstyle that I personally really enjoy. I love playing free/cheap loadouts with the goal to amass as much hunt dollar as I can.

  • @AlexiaRoss
    @AlexiaRoss Жыл бұрын

    Personally I like your skin idea more than these recent legendary hunters.

  • @Caveira138
    @Caveira138 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know how long we'll have to wait for a sequel but I would love to see a world war I setting that way we're not getting too modern of guns but we can have a little bit more variety. Also that opens up the possibility of basically all of Western and Eastern Europe for a little bit more variety in maps.

  • @jazzagerecords7932
    @jazzagerecords7932 Жыл бұрын

    My real question, do you think it would be overpowered if there was a condition on bulletgrubber that if you were solo, you could take ammo out of the same box twice as if it were you and your teammate emptying one? I know it would make me want to take my own ammo boxes as consumables more often (and use high ammo consumption guns more often).

  • @chandlerrodgers5415

    @chandlerrodgers5415

    Жыл бұрын

    I like this idea, maybe add another perk after obtaining bulletgrubber to resupply from ammo boxes twice. Not all obv just what you bring and scrapbeak haha. Same with solo revive, make necro the pre requisite then get another perk

  • @BeTReZeN1

    @BeTReZeN1

    Жыл бұрын

    The Portable Scrapbeak - shot one round, take all ammo from box. Repeat, until compound is empty of ammo. It is far from broken, because it would take time. I don't think devs would do anything about that, because many pick ups is still not been tweaked to trios.

  • @chandlerrodgers5415

    @chandlerrodgers5415

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BeTReZeN1 haha! Literally not that long ago I went in with decoys and decoy supply perk as a solo, simply to be a menace and hit as many ammo boxes as I could! No hunt spamdown for thee!(I know I probably didn’t do much; if at all but I had fun and that’s what it’s about!)

  • @FreakinShane
    @FreakinShane Жыл бұрын

    As someone who enjoys the mountain man, i enjoy the duck hunter idea.

  • @balamplaysgames
    @balamplaysgames Жыл бұрын

    A note about not having Hispanic characters, we actually have 3: Llorona's Heir (Mexico) The Rat (Mexico/ Mexican- American?) & most recently La Luz Mala (Argentina) :)

  • @chrish8829

    @chrish8829

    Жыл бұрын

    Death's Herald looks Hispanic as well. They're all women though, which is interesting.

  • @balamplaysgames

    @balamplaysgames

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrish8829 she might be! I'm only going off what the lore said where each of them are from; it's hard sometimes cuz us Latinos come in different shades xD

  • @michaelburgess6004
    @michaelburgess6004 Жыл бұрын

    New game mode idea for quick play. Sudden death. It's like what he was suggesting. 2 teams (choose the size of the team) and fight each other with random load outs. You start with a tier 1 hunter, and every time you win a sudden death, the tier of your hunter increases, and their load out changes accordingly (still random). Every sudden death after tier 3 will add a trait onto your character. You could also use the do vs your friends.

  • @LeBaked
    @LeBaked Жыл бұрын

    Just discovered hunt and loving it, been posting clips on my channel the past few days! Would love any advice

  • @StevelyBruckShut
    @StevelyBruckShut Жыл бұрын

    Crisis 3s multiplayer was amazing lol. Picking up poles and smashing people was hilarious. Most fun I had since original MW2.

  • @Bokogi
    @Bokogi Жыл бұрын

    As far as the economy goes I think one thing that could help is actually making prestige more valuable to the point that people who want to save up money actually lose something from not prestiging instead.

  • @TurtleGamers1
    @TurtleGamers1 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think the economy particularly needs to be fixed per se, but I do think they need to change something with the Avtomat. Currently, the two main nerfs to the Avtomat is the limited ammo capacity, high recoil, and high cost, but two of those factors are essentially null for high-tier players who sit at 500k and can run dual sparks pistols with the Avtomat. Limited ammo forces you to choose your fights carefully and shoot in bursts. One solution would be to make the Avtomat a special ammo type, similar to how they did with the Dolch, to force down the ammo pool for it. People legit spray and pray with the Avtomat and can win team-fight after team-fight because of it.

  • @ems_2810
    @ems_2810 Жыл бұрын

    I think one key "issue" with how both the Nitro and Avtomat is implemented at the moment, is that the intended system to support both weapons have seemingly been scrapped. Originally the game was supposed to have a modular system of lootable parts in-raid. So if you wanted an Avtomat you needed to first have a normal Mosin and then loot the appropriate parts for it. Another legacy of this is special ammo, which was also meant to be strictly lootable or craftable along with bayonets, scopes, talon , etc. Had the system been implemented, the chance of seeing an Avtomat would, imo, have been far lesser than as it stands now. Now Crytek is forced to regulate prevalence via the economy instead of tinkering with spawn rates for parts and thus will always be somewhat half baked of a solution.

  • @extrarice1
    @extrarice1 Жыл бұрын

    British vet officer from Zulu wars gone bounty hunter would be my ideal legendary skin

  • @hombreg1
    @hombreg1 Жыл бұрын

    As a low rank player, money can become an issue at times. It's why I've never really touched long amo guns until the ironside came out. I think prestige is more important for newer players because it helps you expand your legendary collection and it can get you out of financial ruin. The way the new bloodline xp unlock tree works, you get a TON of money around level 50, finish unlocking most stuff you want and then you reset if your funds are low or you want that free legendary.

  • @novarravon2449
    @novarravon2449 Жыл бұрын

    The only problem with the broken economy is the existence of broken weapons. Took them out or rework them and it's just a matter of playstyle

  • @theodieman
    @theodieman Жыл бұрын

    Hello HomeReel. As someone who has used blender for the better half of a decade, I think your Duck Hunter looks great. Any haters should feel free to post their portfolio and show something they made better (they won't).

  • @kriskringle1948
    @kriskringle1948 Жыл бұрын

    You are not alone. I also tire of hooded skull skins, in and outside of hunt :P

  • @TheUbberman
    @TheUbberman Жыл бұрын

    Here's a random idea for Hunt Dollars overflow. Mr. Greed has opened his collection and accepts all generous donations for his cause! The top 1% donators each month get a unique weapon or character skin, that only they can use. There's a leaderboard for the top Donators to boot! So the big ol' moneybag hoarders could compete among themselves who's the top dog that month. Effectively giving the hyper rich a hunt dollar sink. For the poor plebians, it could also track 'Hunt Dollars spent' so they get on the board as well. With top 40%, top 20% of players also receiveing some rewards (probably Bloodbonds or a lesser/random weapon skin)

  • @BrenoAmado
    @BrenoAmado Жыл бұрын

    For me the 3 biggest problems in this game are: Nitros, Avtos and Flashbangs, and for those i have easy solutions: Nitro/Avto having slower ads timming, for bigger guns, slower time to aim; and for Flashbangs make a pre-animation of 1 second before you throwing it...

  • @mazzi9020
    @mazzi9020 Жыл бұрын

    Hiw do you feel about the curent state of the game in terms of single shot weapons? For me personally i love playing martiny, sparks and even the springfield but it seems every new weapon/variant has a clip/magazine in it. even the new martiniy has a clip now.

  • @josephmontanaro2350
    @josephmontanaro2350 Жыл бұрын

    10:03 I would love a direct sequel set in the 1920-1930ss, the inter war weapons were wacky and the style was cool

  • @YeetMachinen
    @YeetMachinen9 ай бұрын

    I was talking with a friend about how if a second hunt existed, they should put it in the mountains in Colorado or Montana OR put us in Europe around the black forest or the Argonne. Same time period just different location. different hunters that fit.

  • @JustAnotherGamerNL
    @JustAnotherGamerNL Жыл бұрын

    I have 548k hunt dollars. The main reason I have this many is because I don't play expensive weapons every match because even for me that will mean I'm broke in no time. I also enjoy variety so playing expensive weapons all day isn't even appealing to me. That being said if someone or something would suddenly take away all my hunt dollars I would probably quit because it took me a long ass time to save all this money and to me its feels like an achievement

  • @benjamincook3901
    @benjamincook3901 Жыл бұрын

    I think some historical figure Legendary characters would be cool, running around the swamps as Abraham Lincoln, Edger Allen Poe, or like Theodore Roosevelt would be really neat. Personally Theodore would make me really happy or possibly Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, Billy the kid, jesse james so many neat characters they could make.

  • @bubblesareawesome1368
    @bubblesareawesome1368 Жыл бұрын

    As a plague doctor only player, a duck hunter skin would be the bane of my existence. I would love it

  • @Morningstar.Unofficial
    @Morningstar.Unofficial Жыл бұрын

    Duck Hunter makes me think of the gator hat from Metal Gear Solid 3. Amazing idea tbh.

  • @batsux2946
    @batsux2946 Жыл бұрын

    During the event i did like 10 prestige...all went solo, to 0-100 with 20k+ dollars in the end.

  • @VirusXAX
    @VirusXAX Жыл бұрын

    I agree the Duck Hunter make so much sense in this game. It fits perfect and it is kinda funny to see how he woud stand out with his little Duck in the bushes.

  • @jasonscarborough94

    @jasonscarborough94

    Жыл бұрын

    If you add a duck hunter skin you also have to add a humanoid rabbit boss that can't directly damage hunters, but, can Fuck with their weapons and can also create distractions

  • @VirusXAX

    @VirusXAX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jasonscarborough94 What the fuck?! :D

  • @jasonscarborough94

    @jasonscarborough94

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VirusXAX Loony Toons reference :)

  • @VirusXAX

    @VirusXAX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jasonscarborough94 I know I grow up with these kind of loony toons but... WHAT is mindboggling that they can add that... In a distance future

  • @jasonscarborough94

    @jasonscarborough94

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VirusXAX oops... my bad

  • @kreator_pl2521
    @kreator_pl2521 Жыл бұрын

    I just want crazy old man with blended memory's of the civil war and think is still going on the bayou

  • @IFrAnIKOz
    @IFrAnIKOz Жыл бұрын

    I feel like tying matchmaking to the cost of the loadout to a certain degree could be helpful

  • @breachncleargaming344
    @breachncleargaming344 Жыл бұрын

    I haven’t gotten through the whole video yet, so I don’t know if he mentions anything about this, but I feel like if we added more incentive to prestige cooler rewards, maybe even some kind of minor cosmetic system something that would make people actually want to prestige, it would be less of a problem

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