The volume increment problem you mentioned is just an Apple problem. Android and UAPP you can change the volume increment size.

@hartyewh1

2 жыл бұрын

It still depends on the device. Many TWS for example don't have proper increments even if you set Android to 150 steps.

@taidee

2 жыл бұрын

There is a quite a lot of people who are on Apple devices, so it is still real problem. Your "just an Apple problem" makes it sound like it is not relevant.

@LukeValentiLoco

2 жыл бұрын

@@taidee well, it's not as if these manufacturers could step in and fix this particular iOS problem... It's something for apple to address.

@AlexanderBrowne

2 жыл бұрын

@@taidee Yeah exactly. But it's not a device issue it's an iOS or OSX issue. Apple needs to address it.

@httcore

2 жыл бұрын

Use Siri.

I feel like the point of bigger dac amps is having versatility of different inputs and out puts. I use my element iii to switch from headphones to speakers and that’s abt it. It also has the the NOB tho.

@thevashfan12392

2 жыл бұрын

(As Duke nukem) I like the big KNOB.

@tonezou3918

2 жыл бұрын

Tech companies should contract JDS to make them smooth knobs. The best knob ever. Even for washing machines and stuff, a great knob is a great knob.

@emanuellgustea122

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I guess power output has nothing to do with it at all

@emanuellgustea122

2 жыл бұрын

@I am here he does interact but he posts alot and there are a butt ton of comments. He can't reply to every single one

@asplmn

2 жыл бұрын

@I am here you just did comment... Twice lol.

Give or take a couple years and Moondrop will have an incredible value dongle like this (albeit slightly less powerful) around the 50 dollar mark. At least that's my prediction :)

@why_tho_

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@catsudondondon

2 жыл бұрын

Of course man. It's moondrop, what else do you expect

@Yellowredstone

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I bought my mom a pair of Starfields for Mother's Day, she absolutely loves them and I'm hoping to get myself a Blessing 2 by the end of the summer.

@Yellowredstone

2 жыл бұрын

@I am here and idk why haters like you bother to watch his videos on the first place

@NJ-wb1cz

2 жыл бұрын

It needs to have a battery and to be a bluetooth receiver. Without this its usefulness will remain very limited

You can get tiny increments of volume in Mac by holding shift+option while pressing the volume up or down key. (for example, if you usually hold Fn key and then VolumeUp, press Fn+Shift+Option and then VolumeUp)

Qudelix 5k exists and has auto EQ built in to oratory / Harman target. That is a much better buy.

@TonkyTronicus

2 жыл бұрын

Qudelix is sold out everywhere and AFAIK they aren't in production anymore.

@kyron42

2 жыл бұрын

@@TonkyTronicus they're probably working on a new version. The question is what are they going to call it. The 6k?

@jeremywilliam79

2 жыл бұрын

To add to what you said it also can be used wired and wirelessly, has built in battery so you’re not draining your phones battery to power it either, and mic pass through so you can use it to wirelessly use headphones with mic as a headset.

@TonkyTronicus

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyron42 Whatever they call it, I'm here for it.

@pimlicosound

2 жыл бұрын

The Qudelix also has more power output. 6.4V producing around 350mW at 16 Ohms. Drives my DCA Aeons fine.

You have great intro music EVERYTIME. love your production quality

While not as convenient, you can get around the volume increment issue by using the on-screen volume slider, which moves smoothly and offers precise adjustment.

@why_tho_

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@antonzaitsev8411

Жыл бұрын

Or with the PowerAmp app. You can have 1% increments

@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016

Жыл бұрын

Volume is a plus feature for speedy adjustment , i received mine today , it's very handy n powerful with 4.4mm output cheers.

The design is spot on. Splendid detail inscribing the design on the back! Very curious about it.

@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016

Жыл бұрын

it's the best , no doubt about it , buy one try it out ,very powerful 4.4 balance output deaf loudness for iem.

Hidizs S3 Pro and IEMs replaced my entire headfi bench. The ‘rollable’ firmware also helps with different headphones. Definitely try it out.

If I’m not mistaken you can adjust the volume with the option + shift + volume keys to finer tune your volume controls. Should help your mac issues My only issue with a smaller product is just that I currently use xlr but given all things the same a smaller footprint is always nicer

Recently released dongles have been interesting like the this, Cayin RU-6, iBasso DC06, etc. On the-go, sticking with TWS for convenience or bring my iFi iDSD Signature on that rare occasion.

Awesome review. Thanks for referencing and comparing to the Apple dongle.

Cool dongle! Did you run all headphones through the 4.4mm output? I was waiting to hear more about the difference between the 3.5 and 4.4 outputs but had to look elsewhere for that. Thanks Josh!

I'd prefer a full size setup for sure. Lots of reasons for preferring the full size setup but mostly the pre-outs for speakers(with a remote control for volume), nice feeling volume knob for fine adjustments and the overall aesthetic of the bigger equipment on a desk.

@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016

Жыл бұрын

Jon you should get one for portability , you;ll be surprise what it can do if not , you'll missed a lot !

Portability is really important me, with a laptop on the go this form factor and interface is fantastic. Thanks for the review.

Look inside a lot of DAC amps these days and you find large metal chassis with very little inside them! Thanks, good video.

I have 3 dongle dacs that I bought for mobile using it outside and for commuting, and for walks, sitting outside, and in my car. Desktops I use for indoors.

Hi Josh, interesting post like usual! 👏(although i like the ambiance sound when you were at the previous studio) This dongle tech is much interesting than full on dac/amp especially when people can be mobile with the so called audiophile

i'm listening to this video on a moondrop variations with this dac, and it sounds fenomenal! probably my end game dac for a couple months haha

You can adjust ios volume very granurarly if you put your finger on the volume slider and drag it Much much better. Also on Android phones you can use volume apps or also drag it stock

Moondrop is killing it right now, my moondrop blessing 2’s are easily my favorite audiophile purchase so far.

Missed a prime comparison to the Qudelix 5k. I leave it plugged into my MacBook on my desk, while also connected by Bluetooth to my iPad and iPhone. I “just hit play” on the device I’d like to play from and it works flawlessly, with integrated PEQ across all sources, and wireless portability. It’s also $110, though not always available.

Trust me, if you replace the original OTG cable, this stuff improve clarity, detil, staging larger, layering deeper....I replace to DDHFI OTG c to c...its amazing improvement...👍

hey josh! you can try pressing option+shift+volume up/down on macbook for finer volume adjustment. maybe that’ll help

Hello Josh I was about to purchase the Topping DX3 PRO+ … and then I saw this review. I’m a big fan of Moondrop (cause of the aria and starfield) so in your honest opinion which should I get. I like good bass and sound staging.

OMG just received this little Magic , to compared my IFI Zen AMP DAC - this is already phenominal , after playing a little whiie connected with my Samsung Note 20 Ultra the 3.5mm connection was under power with low volume then switched to 4.4mm Balance output my ear can go bleed so be careful not going MAX may became deaf over time . with the ZEN it has more features with Gain control -can push more vocal forward and Bass boost- a lovely feature but the MoonRiver is next level , rounded off the edgy sound , smoother , more energy n power ,separation and clarity are better , this could be the only amp dac for most Audiophile needs , most importantly it sounds with no colour , it's so natural and enjoyable for listening your music . another surprise was it even improved my Wharefedale EVO 4.2 it's peaky aggresive sound , now it became more smooth n controlled in better clarity as well , so in summary , it's well worth for it's price value , regards it's volume control , it increase / decrease in 10% , to me it's a plus ,so it's quicker for me adjusting it's volume and actually i love this handy adjustment. the only feature that i wish is bring in the bass boost like IFI Zen quality bass boost would be ideal but i still able using my phone equaliser for more bass, This is a no brainer for anyone investing so little money in such incredible performance amp dac with best flexibility portable mini size , now i can go anywhere with the best of the best sound from my PHONE n another PLUS is improved all my other speakers performance by 20% from my NAD 758 , Emit 20 , Ikon 7 , Polk A9 , KLH Albany, today is my most satisfying AUDIOPHILE Journey over 25 years , happy listening n lastly Thanks this channel so ,so much for bringing all the best HIFI Gears For Us the HIFI community , JOSHUA VALOUR you are the champion in the world , very much liked your honest opinions and reviews Thank You !

For the form factor it’s pretty impressive so I think I’ll pick it up but I will certainly not hold my breath when comparing to the power capability of the FiiO Q3. The Q3 can provide more amperage to drive lower sensitivity planars. This thing would for sure be better at driving a higher ohm DD like my 6XX so I’ll be excited to see.

After watching this review for the second time I ordered the Moonriver 2. It’s the only device you’ve reviewed with no weird “buts” and straight forward explanation of its capabilities without saying “for the price”.

One draw back with small devices in general, at least for me, is they often have no volume knob. I love how the Fiio BTR5 and Qudelix 5K sound, but there's no knob. It makes them kinda tricky to use. I also have a Hip DAC and Hip DAC 2, which I like for that reason. I'm glad this review came out! I had been looking at this product online recently, compared to the Xduoo Link2 Bal, etc. Do you know of any audio meets or stores in the Seattle area, BTW?

@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016

Жыл бұрын

this is more precise the buttons are solid for control, loved it a lot , the best i ever used .

It would be interesting to hear a follow-up comparing this to the Moondrop Dawn 4.4 balanced. I think the 3.5 might be a tad more convenient but also less power.

@ikoyDaPnoy

Жыл бұрын

Yes please

I think it would be great to have great tiny gadgets when they can really delivery comparable performance to desk based solutions.

I just got into HIFI and bought a Hifiman Sundara with an ifi Hip DAC 2, which is a great combo to start out with imo. I think it's sounds great, at least for me. Since I have not heard the high end stuff I'm pretty satisfied for now. The portability of this combo is also a real plus. I can use it at dask or in my bed. A full sized amp which is sitting at a desk would be a thing to keep in mind for me, since im used to always having the HipDAC with. So i would always go with a portable solition if a had the choice!

I’d be more interested in the comparison with larger portables than all the way to the extreme of a desktop dac. By that I mean, how does this fare against Ifi option such as a hip dac 2, Gryphon or Signature Blue, and equally curious with a mojo 2.

@Armbrust210

2 жыл бұрын

I had the same thought during his Macbook Amp Video

@spector175

2 жыл бұрын

Mojo 2 sounds way superior than ifi .

I’ve blind ABX tested people with my $600 desktop stack vs my $120 dongle dac/amp… not a single person can tell one from the other. larger desktop units don’t sound better. they offer more flexibility. and often much more power… but from a pure sound quality standpoint the little dongles are amazing.

On macos use shift + option and volume up or down to adjust volume in smaller increments

Great review ! So what’s the best words to describe the sign signature?

I’ll go for the mini dac amp for sure! Portability with high quality, you can’t beat that for me.

@MINDTHEHEADPHONE

2 жыл бұрын

Ih, olha quem tá aqui! 😁

@Patricia.castro84

2 жыл бұрын

@@MINDTHEHEADPHONE tou aqui tameeeem 😉

I don't use speakers or any other input sources, so this is convenient to use not just in my PC but in plenty of devices. The quality is really good so I prefer this over a bulky DAC, it competes with them and that's what makes this product fascinating. Moondrop is one of the best audio companies at the moment and they fill all the checkmarks with the moonriver 2. The information you gave about how the power goes through the device is confusing though, I had no idea what you were talking about

Hey hi! thanks for the video, so here we are I recieved my focal celestee (first "HIFI" experience) and I've done the mistake you speak about, I bought the moondrop dawn and I actually prefer the dac of my laptop... this is frustrating, in fact the DAWN changed the sound a lot, bass is less present, the overall sound is brighter, even ear piercing at high volume, when I plug the cable straight to my pc it sounds darker, fuller, softer, in general more enjoyable experience. Do you think the moonriver 2 does a better job? I tried it on the phone and the PC and sound is about the same, so its a phone problem. I really want some portability cause I moove a lot. thanks!

For me these tiny dongles serve a different propose from desktop dac/amps. I got one of each and I'm always using the desktop solution at home because it's not consuming any power off my phone. Then when commuting or traveling the dongle is a fantastic option to get audiophile quality on the move. Of course for someone listening to music at home on a laptop, then the dongle makes plenty of sense.

I'd definitely take the smaller DAC/amp if the pricing was the same.

Hi Josh, can you check the iFi version of a mini dac-amp, the iFi go bar? Considering iFi is a bit more accessible in different parts of the world than Moondrop it would also be interesting to se a comparison between those 2.

I would stick with the full-size desktop device purely for ergonomics. I prefer the experience of plugging my headphones into something solid and having tactile knobs and buttons to interact with while I enjoy my tunes.

@col.hanslanda2013

2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what kids call "copium drug".

Excellent review! I'd go for the portable one so that I can carry any headphones or earphones I like.

Joshua, Not sure I understand the issue with too large volume adjustments, but wonder if it would help to use Option-Shift-Volume on the Mac for small increments (1/4 usual) rather than using the Nano's volume adjustment. Hope this is clear. I appreciate the wide range of audiophile equipment you review.

Dear Joshua, review any of the Hidizs dongle dacs. The S3 actually looks promising for IEMs for price-performance ratio

Control volume on Mac in smaller increments using shift, option and volume up or down

I actually just got this dac/amp because of your review and its honestly amazing. Over the past 5 years, the portable market has been improving fast. I would take this thing any day over a BTR5 or a Shanling piece, even Xduoo's options I tried don't really sound quite as well rounded as the moon river. It doesn't really quite compete with much higher end desktop setups still, but if this was all I had, I'd be happy. Its good enough that if you are thinking about spending only 200-400$ ish on a desktop setup, you might as well save the money and the hassle to get something more versatile like this. Rumor has it Xduoo's newer link 2 balanced device uses the same brand dac chips and similar power output, evidently sounds nearly identical for 40$ less.

Well, more love for dongles is always appreciated #donglemadness Btw, the dac chips used in this dongle (Cirrus Logic CS43198) is also used on Topping D30 Pro

You should explore more about the dongle dac/amp section, this is just the tip of the iceberg. There are Cayin ru6 (word first r2r dongle dac), Shanling Ua5 (balanced ess/ricore amp with built in battery), Luxury & Precision W2 (dual CS43131 dac) and so on..

@qitt

2 жыл бұрын

Questsyle, AK are also going to release their new dongle at this price point.

For the volume issue on Samsung phones, soundassistant app from the Samsung store let you set the volume increments.

I think that thermals can be challenging on smaller high-powered DAC's. That said, my Fiio BTR3K delivers quite a punch as well, and never gets warm. It's almost spooky how cool it stays under high load. I should also say that considering the price, I'm very happy with it.

@JohnClarkW

2 жыл бұрын

I have the BTR5, which is similar but with more power, and it is the same. About the only time it gets warm is when I am using it and charging at the same time, but any device has that problem.

@juanblanco7898

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnClarkW I had an original (not 2021) version of the BTR5 and it used to get noticeably warm (USB mode, charging disabled + balanced output) and it actually had an impact on the sound. That was one of the problems that made me ditch it in favour of a standalone DAP (Shanling M3X). The BTR5 (in it's optimal state, i.e. not warmed up and/or low on battery) sounded better to me, though.

Plus wireless charging for phone or mag safe, you can listen while charging

Mac volume tip: *Shift* + *option/Alt* + *volume buttons* = 1/4-increment steps

Damn that intro music went hard. edit: track name for anyone interested: "Paid Marketing" by Ooyy

Would you recommend this to use with an iPad, IEMs using Apple Music, I mean would I be able to take full advantage of this DAC with that setup?

I have a btr5, I will never give up the bluetooth functionality for beeing out and about

Sound interesting! Wondering how would you compare it to the original chord mojo? 🤔

what is the other portable dac amp that he said was cheaper but might have equal performance?

what would be the best sounding eutral dongle that i can use on my phone but also on my pc via usb for a maximum of 50-70 bucks?

UAPP has a volume step option up to 250 steps.

As someone whose entire setup is iems run off a laptop and phone with the apple dongle products like these fit my use case. I do a lot of moving around, and essentially have no permanent desk space, so a full size dac/amp would be really inconvenient for me to have to lug around lol

On a desktop, I want that big smooth (or tech-clicky) volume knob. But everywhere else around or outside the home, nano is the way to go. I’m eyeing the Shanling UA5. My OPPO HA2 is long in the tooth now.

nice review. on mac, hidizs s9 pro (100mw @32ohm) needs to be set at a higher volume than an apple type c dongle (30mw @32ohm). on an android phone, the apple dongle needs to be turned up all the way to drive moondrop variations unlike the s9 pro at half volume. This is clearly a driver issue on the s9 pro with apple devices as these devices when connected to a full sized usb port use more power,

tnx for video , i want to buy a portable DAC, which one of these six models do you think i should buy? which one is the best and worth buying? 1. Questyle M15 2. moonriver 2 3. shanling UA5 4. ifi Go Bar 5. Luxury & precision W2 6. xDuoo link2 bal I've been researching for a week and I'm really confused because everyone says something, i want it for earphones, if you were to buy one for yourself, which one would you choose?

Very insightful review! I feel like the target demographic of these portable dac/amps are people who want hifi sound on the go. I would personally use a bigger desktop set-up for headphones and the full listening experience, while using a small dac/amp device with iems while outside.

I got MoonRiver2 from watching moondrop channel an how passionate they where with it sold me. Had the Kato already an pairs excellent with it, the manual has a picture of an anime drawing with her wereing the katos. Also ordered the upgraded wire the line K for the Kato with 4.4 balance an find it very balanced an can go to an uncomfortable loudness but with little to no distortion. Tried them with tipsy ttroms an bass hits great with them as there a more playfully cheaper item. My sennheiser hd 560s only 3.5 connection or 6.35 an are much better with my pc dac/Amp. Not going to bother getting a 4.4 cable for it as they don't leave the room.

Samsung Galaxy phones have an advanced volume setting to be turned on. With this you get 100 volume steps. Very good for external dac-amps and IEMs. Thanks for good reviews!

Maybe dumb question, but will this sound much better run from an iPhone with IEMs (like Timeless 7Hz) compared to iPhone + apple dongle and no amp. I’m still not sure if an amp actually improves sound quality or if its just to meet power requirements for a nice enjoyable volume.

I would really like you to review some other well reviewed USB dongles like iFi Audio Go Bar, Questyle M15, Shanling UA5 and FiiO KA3. Would like to know which one is the best for hard to drive headphones like some of the Hifiman's cans

This dongle day/ amp looks promising. How do you compare it with Astell&Kern Pee51?

You might want to review the Cayin RU6, the world's only USB dongle with an R-2R DAC, designed by Cayin. It's somewhat more expensive than the Moondrop ($250) and has (on paper) a little less power, 213 mW from the 4.4mm output (Cayin is frank that the 4.4 output is technically not balanced, but it puts out significantly more power than its 3.5mm output). You also get a small OLED display, choice of OS or NOS modes, and a much better volume solution than Moondrop--it has a 99-step discrete hardware volume control that makes it easy to dial in very precise adjustments (it's recommended to set your PC/phone/tablet at max volume and control volume from the dongle). While I have used it on the go, I mainly use it in my apartment for convenience with IEMs, Thieaudio Monarch MK II and Fiio FH9. (I don't have 4.4mm cables for any of my full size headphones and have not yet tried them on the RU6.) The sound is very impressive for its size and price. Nonetheless, I do detect some improvement with the balanced 4.4 output from my Gustard X16/H16 stack, particularly a bit stronger bass and imaging. But the RU6 is competitive. iFi just released an even more expensive ($329) USB dongle with almost 500 mw, a full MQA decoder and other interesting features. I'm anxious to see reviews.

I would go for the small convenient easy to to take with you solution. Especially if it can provide the performance your are talking about.

I'm using one of these Moondrops, but I found it sounds best using a DDC and a Linear Power Supply, with a large back pack and a long enough power cord it's an ideal portable solution.

@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016

Жыл бұрын

try for your hifi amp , it's so good sounded more naturalism.

Thank you for comparison with FullSize DACAMP

Can I use it as DAC / AMP for the Sennheiser HD 600? Or, will I need to buy a dedicated DAC and AMP to take full advantage of the HD 600?

I like these small ones because I can permanently attach them to my HD650 and make them USB-C headphones. Then I really have the versatility of using them everywhere.

I would still go for a desktop amp -- I currently run three sources in parallel on my desktop amp and can switch between them with just the press of a button. And even if I would not need multiple sources, having a physical volume wheel that is at a fixed position on my desk which I can blindly find and adjust the volume from is worth the big box on my desk. (Currently a FiiO K9 Pro)

@Greg.Siucrazyforaudio2016

Жыл бұрын

it's worth getting it for portability , it's as good as all your component set up , why not ?

Hey guys, does anyone know what Joshua's favourite headphone for midrange and vocals is? I know it's probably a Abyss Diana, LCD 2C, LCD 4, HD600 or Focal Clear MG. Does anyone remember which one he considered to be the best?

How would you compare this to something like the Go Blu by iFi?

How about on Modhouse T60 Argon's? Enough juice?

Hey! Is it possible to do a review on the SteelSeries Artics Nova Pro wireless headphones. I know its not an audiophile headphone but im very curios on how it compares to the HD560s and the DX3 pro plus since thats my current gaming setup. Thought it would be a good idea 💡 since theres a lot of gamers looking into getting audiophile headphones and are looking for a comparison between both. Thanks if you ever read this and im looking forward to any new content in the future.

First, volume on Mac use “shift + option” when using the volume keys and you get 4 or 5 more semi-steps for volume. Also you can use the slider in the control center or in the menu bar for more fine grained control than the up and down volume keys. The nano versus desktop for DAC / AMP… I have a iFi Signature paired DAC and Amp on my desk, but 90% of the time I’m plugging in my DT 1990s to a Dragonfly Colbalt as I move my MacBook Pro from desktop, to sofa, to bedroom, and out to coffee shops (not that is sort of doable again). I do this because the difference is minor but the added mobility is a great advantage. If I had a more permanent setup near my sofa and another on my desk, I may not use my portable DAC / AMP as much. This week the iFi DAC Go Bar released and its quiet floor is similar to this MoonRiver 2, but also has MQA (this is something I like having for Tidal). I looked at the small THX Dragonfly sized, option, but a couple friends that picked it up didn’t find it that different from the Cobalt. If MoonRiver 2 had MQA I’d definitely go for it. But, I’m really curious about the iFi Go Bar at the moment as well.

@adamdunovsky5670

2 жыл бұрын

and u really hear MQA is something better?

@ThomasVanderWal

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamdunovsky5670 I do! If all I had was 24/96 I’d be good, but that is limited still.

@Mr1stcat

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasVanderWal not many people are talking about the ifi go bar or reviewing it i wonder why 🤔

@sephondranzer

Жыл бұрын

@@ThomasVanderWal It doesn’t bother you that on the objective side that people have shown you are hearing distortion if any difference at all? I’m genuinely curious why this appeals to anyone at this point.

Will you review the ifi go bar ?

Hi, It’s something out of topic now, but I’ve been looking for a good open headphones for a while now. Will use the headphones primary for gaming. If you have a recommendation for me, I am a little overwhelmed with the selection. (I don’t need a headset and everything is up to €300 Okey in terms of price) LG and thank you in advance

I was a Dragonfly fan but I’ve noticed on my newer Hifiman XS cans there are some issues at higher volumes I don’t enjoy. Going to check this baby out now to see if it helps. Thanks!!

@hartyewh1

2 жыл бұрын

Don't they have a small, but noticeable spike in the treble? EQ would fix that while the source shouldn't.

@nyyijaxxvi9529

2 жыл бұрын

@@hartyewh1 I wouldn't say that's what I have noticed or at least it hasn't bothered me. It's more that if I push it to max volume or close to, especially when plugged into my iPhone, the low end actually gets a muddy as hell and I can hear static or light crackling in loud portions of songs. I don't think it's the headphones because they sound incredible at low or moderate volume and it gets better when plugged into a laptop. I have to imagine its the limitations in power or sound processing from the Cobalt.

I would have to consider input/output flexibility.

The cs 14398 same dac used in A&K norma range of DAP.

How’s does high impedance cause better sound quality? At a certain point is it unnoticeable?

Probably a dumb question but here we go: Since I don't quite understand the difference (volts?, impedance?) between the signals powering headphones vs a source signals from a DAC (or cd player, phono pre etc) going into an integrated amp, could I use this as a DAC only, connecting the headphone out of the MoonRiver 2 via RCA to an integrated mini amp like the Ayima 07 or SMSL SA50?

@hartyewh1

2 жыл бұрын

I think there's too much power coming out of it compared to the line level expected by the amps? Like can you connect your phone, or PC from their 3,5mm output's to the amps?

Now products like this show how tech should be. Going smaller, more efficient and more affordable. Truthear Shio next pleaseee

When I’m not using the Topping DX3 Pro Plus on my desk I’m using a Helm Audio Bolt on the go and I’m super happy with it! For sub £100 I think it’s great value for the performance

I was thinking of picking up the THX Onyx but i think i may give this a shot based on the review.

I’m just curious where that sweater is from? Also that is a super cool piece of tech

is there any dongle you would suggest for iems ? maybe one focused on the DAC rather than the amplifier. thanks

@OptLab

Жыл бұрын

It also depends of how resolving your iem is. A the pricer the dac, the better the sound by up to 25%. But with a low resolving iem, the improvement will be a few if not nothing changed.

Answer - I go for the normal sized desktop DAC or regular sized amplifiers purely for the variety of inputs and outputs functionality…. Dongles are just stopgap devices to compensate for the awful quality of those mobile build-in dac and low powered amplifications. Better question would be how about mobile phone producers incorporate better DACS with power efficiency into their phones and therefore eliminate completely the need or necessity for an external dongle DACs

@hartyewh1

2 жыл бұрын

The average consumer doesn't care to pay the $5 that a $50 DAC+amp would cost to put in a phone. Sad, but true.

@Kingjay814

2 жыл бұрын

LG was really the last company who really took audio seriously. The V-series phones where audio powerhouses. Sadly companies water down their devices to appeal to the masses.

@louiev.3367

2 жыл бұрын

Sales on tws is to good so that will never happen but at least the sound quality has become much better but im still waiting for tws to have a higher volume output. Bluetooth 6 or an improved version of ldac is definitely the future I cant wait to see.

@PSM-IPADZ_OX

2 жыл бұрын

@@hartyewh1 agreed

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2 жыл бұрын

@@Kingjay814 and to pad their profit margin ….. how much would it cost for APPLE to incorporate the APPLE DAC dongle back into their mobiles and increase the Z-height by another 1 mm ? Practically zero cost to their BOM, but then their whole range of Bluetooth headphones will be trashed ! Yet none of them are able to play nice with their own APPLE LOSSLESS HIGH-RES MUSIC. How irony !

Full setup for me. A more powerful Fioo k9 or a delicious cayin. Or perhaps a more powerful jds labs element, for da knOb

can i plug in an unbalanced cable in the balanced output with an 4,44 mm adapter?

I would go for the smaller because I don't like desk clutter.

Was using E1DA 9038d as a dac feeding a magni 3+… sold the magni and using the dongle only, powering t50rp argon and k240monitor 600 ohm without any issue. So, to reply to your question: YES