Is the Drilling Overpriced? Hunt: Showdown Tide of Shadows
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I mean I like it but $510? Come on..
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What do you think? Overpriced?
@breadlife6455
Жыл бұрын
yes
@elemenopey
Жыл бұрын
very, still fun though
@detriotswat
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah
@the_apex_latino420
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Nuage9987
Жыл бұрын
Fun but way too expensive. It's one of those guns who are reserved for good players with enough consistency to always be rich, because to get good with it, you're going to cough up a lot of dollars. But it's nothing new, Hunt always had that problem of letting the good players be better equipped than the inferior ones, and hence dominate even more.
I mean, driller can drill almost any terrain in a cave and provides great shortcuts and a straight tunnel towards the droppod. And you can C4 scouts so thats fun!
@tiredofinternetculture
Жыл бұрын
Das good game
@bongwatercrocodile315
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE!
@gavincrawford7263
Жыл бұрын
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE????
@dankmemer5699
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW!
@Incentiv
Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE, BROTHER! ⛏
Maybe try for the necro?
Your teammate was killing the vibe. "Necro me bro" *immediately dies*
@crusaderdino2739
Жыл бұрын
Half the video is drilling and the other half is this guy crying for necro
@brandonneil11
Жыл бұрын
Man thinks having resilience make him invincible lol
@C0ffeeGremlin
Жыл бұрын
@crusaderdino2739 for real. I'd have told the guy to shut up for a moment haha at most I'll tell my friends twice and after that I'll stay quiet xD
@Joescotterpuss
Жыл бұрын
I heard you the first 3 times!! Let me listen for footsteps man.
@12345dbzgt
Жыл бұрын
Same thoughts- literally has man right in front of him in the open talkin bout necro. Bro ill get u when I can get u, Id do it just to prove it gets us all deaded when not safe.
drinking challenge: take a shot every time someone says "necro"
taking a shot everytime your teammate says "try the necro"
@shadowwolf7933
Жыл бұрын
does this count as sounding suicidal? 💀
Your partner was a little intense with getting necroed. 410 its a better price for the drilling maybe
@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608
Жыл бұрын
Tbh I wouldn't pay anything over 300 for it and even that feels a stretch, because the shotgun is mad unreliable. I was hitting people at 7 meters dead center mass and doing non fatal damage. You basically need slugs for it; and at that point is it really worth the massive price jump from a lemat carbine for some more range? Both are going to end up using special ammo anyways.
@drivanradosivic1357
Жыл бұрын
@@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 isn't the point of the shotgun mode of the primarily Rifle rounds breakaction a quick access to a close range defense option? if you want to have a what is basically a triple barrel rifle, use shotgun slugs. Just take something else that helps close range.
Yes, I find it wierd that a double barrel medium ammo rifle with a mediocre shotgun barrel is more expensive then the mosin, which is by far the best bolt action gun in the game, arguably the best gun in the game.
@askewmastermind1629
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the shotgun mediocre. It's a long barrel which I think only the Romero has
@Dultus
Жыл бұрын
@@askewmastermind1629 Specter and Crown & King too.
@dangernoodle3343
Жыл бұрын
@@Dultus its certainly easy to forget the specter has one with how it usually underperforms lol
@Dultus
Жыл бұрын
@@dangernoodle3343 I've been happily running with the specter and compact springfield lately! The specter did a great job the last few rounds. But Hunt giveth and Hunt taketh. :p
@dangernoodle3343
Жыл бұрын
@@Dultus I wish I was having that luck with it! Glad to know the hunt gods have been blessing you though lol
They also launched the Centennial with a wild price premium, it's in a good place now, personally I'm just gonna trust the process and let crytek give it a pass a bit in the future based on what I'm guessing would be performance numbers
@Toast_5588
Жыл бұрын
I think it's ok that it has kind of a "soft landing" because of it so that every match isn't just full of drilling. Also, lowering the price too much would just straight up invalidate guns like the springfield, to an even further degree than it already is :D
@Ashen_Night116
Жыл бұрын
@@Toast_5588 If you think the Springfield is bad, you're just bad at the game, almost every single shot weapon in the game relies heavily on headshots and a secondary follow up for the kill if you hit the body. But lets go over a little stat breakdown: 38 vs 510 hunt dollars 1/24 vs 2/20 + 1/8 132 vs 120 212m vs 170m 42rpm vs 22rpm 490m/s vs 520m/s Are we seriously paying 13x the amount of hunt dollars for a weapon that has a shotgun and 30m/s faster velocity? My entire springfield loadout costs 350+ hunt dollars less than this entire weapon. The price is absolutely fucking ridiculous, at least the Centennial was an actual alternative to the Vetterli despite only doing 124 damage, it at least had the stats to make it desirable.
@nobleradical2158
Жыл бұрын
@@Ashen_Night116 2 springfields + 1 romero + dual-wield springfield (3 trait points) + quartermaster romero (6 trait points) A recruited hunter with 9 trait points (tier 3) costs about ~200 without the cost of guns 38 + 38 + 66 + 200 = 342 With my harebrained math, I'm thinking ~350 might be a fair price.
@Ashen_Night116
Жыл бұрын
@@nobleradical2158 350 isn't a fair price because you're using a tier 3 hunter to make an example, use a free hunter, and that number goes down to about 200-300 hunt dollars for a loadout if you're doing budget loadouts. With QM I can make a Springfield + Romero Handcannon loadout for 230 with med, knuckle knife, chokes, 2x small vit, 2x dynamite. All of that for 230, that still manages to be 280 hunt dollars cheaper than this weapon with basically all the benefits that it would have. 200 is a more apt price considering how mediocre or if you spin it, bad it is.
The price point can be steep and I hope they lower it a tad. However, I am primarily concerned with the abysmal muzzle velocity on the bleeding and fmj rounds.
@DigitalWolverine
Жыл бұрын
According to another Crytek partner, the bleed ammo is supposed to be somewhere between FMJ and normal ammo, and it's currently just taking FMJ velocity, meaning it is "bugged."
@ZzVinniezZ
Жыл бұрын
felt like the price of the slug ammo is 50 doesn't fit with the rest 150$ price point for all the shotgun and lemat carbine under shotgun, i think these prices in the events are place holder.
@NeFjuS
Жыл бұрын
@@DigitalWolverine meh i would leave it as is... that bleed on it is a powerfull think and should be controlled somehow.
@lorddude123
Жыл бұрын
@@NeFjuS you can make your hunter immune to bleed so it really doesn't matter
@juliomontega2868
Жыл бұрын
@@DigitalWolverine Both is incorrect. If you check the penalty on FMJ of the WinnieC and dumdum on the springfield, you see that FMJ has -15% and dumdum -10% muzzle velocity. This applies to all other weapons, making the drilling either a deliberate design or a product of typos. The base principle should be applied here, not the flat -30% mv we have. The mv with special ammo is very bad, when the whole gun speaks good at longer mid-ranges to you. People side stepping the slow bullet is killing the use in mid range skirmishes. It has similar MV as the LeMatCarbine with normal ammo, and at mid ranges that one already requires to fish for headshots, which isn't consistent with only 2 shots.
After the newness and fun dies down, I don't see myself, or anyone taking it over a mosin. It's a new fun option, but I don't think it gives me a better chance to win over other weapons
@Trenz0
Жыл бұрын
That's the point of versatile options, no? It's worse than other rifles and shotguns, but few guns give you both options in one slot (other than lemat)
@Miss_Laylay
Жыл бұрын
@@Trenz0 yeah but you're also still more likely to kill close range with say, fanning etc. Fanning > drilling shotgun But to be fair, I haven't put very very many hours into it yet
@Miss_Laylay
Жыл бұрын
Also, the thing is, if it's worse than other rifles, it should not be more expensive than them
@Blue-oq5yw
Жыл бұрын
@@Miss_Laylay Saying that fanning outclasses the drilling's shotgun has to be the dumbest thing i've heard all day, no offense. Take slugs to mitigate any rng buckshot spread and you have a 15m one shot death machine just like any other long barrel shotgun. Fanning, even if coming from the caldwell conversion, is very rng at best. There simply is no scenario in which you would rather have 6 bullets that may or may not kill instead of a consistant slug.
@Blue-oq5yw
Жыл бұрын
Also, saying that "if it's worse than other rifles, it should not be more expensive than them" makes no sense. Sure, it ain't a mosin or lebel but it still performs just like any other medium ammo rifle out there with the added bonus of an immediate second bullet in the chamber. But you seem to be forgetting that this thing has not only two very lethal main barrels but also basically a romero strapped to the bottom which, if equipped with slugs, is definitely the most versatile weapon in Hunt so far.
Crytec has always been afraid of “good” medium ammo guns. Even when the centennial first came out that gun was around 300 bucks. We know from previous updates that crytec is caring more and more about the economy balance of hunt. And the general manager has stated a few times that “expensive guns should be powerful”. I think they are afraid of making accidentally make a budget gun that rivals performance of long ammo or the power weapons. But i think it’s still safe to say that the drilling is definitely not better than a mosin, just different, so it shouldn’t fetch a price greater than a mosin either. 390 is where i think it should be at.
The intense bleed that the special ammo does it pretty nasty alongside the relatively decent damage it does at close/mid range.
@juliomontega2868
Жыл бұрын
Intense bleed deals 9 damage per tick, so while that can be the case you also got to contest higher MV guns with more than 125+ dmg profiles at mid range, and that frequently wins against the drilling. Along with the slow reload.
@johannesschmitz6370
Жыл бұрын
@@juliomontega2868 based on your perception maybe? The drilling isnt out for long enough to have a reliable statistic that drilling looses against other guns.
I would accept the price if the shotgun actually acted like a full size shotgun. As it stands it’s extremely inconsistent without slugs which is just costing even more. The one saving grace is the buff to medium dumdum, so it’s usable, but yes overpriced
@Krazyyerttle
11 ай бұрын
I guess they just released an update to fix it
380-410 I’d be cool with…the follow up is amazing when you can hit it, but it is still medium ammo so I’m not a huge fan of paying mosin prices for it
Maybe try the necro, necro, you could try the necro, I have resilience try necro.
I think you pay with the drilling for the free utility slot. You should not forget that you can equip a small crossbow or even a normal bow to kill all bosses easy and quiet.
@retroharu9999
Жыл бұрын
not spider easily
@DigitalWolverine
Жыл бұрын
@@retroharu9999 fire hand crossbow bolt
@quadconjures
Жыл бұрын
I agree, but that's a helluva premium for it. Being quiet is great for solo players, but it's not like you can hide for long - people will either find clues or converge when you banish. Compare that to romero with buck/penny and a spitfire - I don't know if it's worth a premium in comparison.
@Zurn187
Жыл бұрын
i kill everything with big bundle
@apollolinaire2607
Жыл бұрын
Again, LeMat Carbine does it too and very well at that. It needs a discount, really, I'd say 150$ cheaper would be pretty good.
At the price of the drilling there really isnt a situation I'd rather have it over a mosin. The raw utility of long ammo over medium makes it an easy choice. If you have perfect aim the two tap is potent but the same could be said for basically any weapon.
Crazy how effortlessly you became my favorite hunt content creator - keep up the outstanding work!
@heymelon
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there's effort involved 😉
@Lothrean
Жыл бұрын
@@heymelon a lot of work to make the content sure, but with a personality like that not much effort to win my heart.
@bilboswaggings
Жыл бұрын
All he had to do was to make fun of the French and he had my heart and support
I expected it to be around the 300 to 400 $ area. I still think that the current pricing is adequate as well, you essentially get two primaries in one, both of them with unique perks to them, but you still get so much freedom because you don't have the need for any kind of secondary. The biggest justification is the choices of special ammo you have though. The recently buffed medium ammo intense bleed makes this gun extremely punishing, even if you don't manage the two tap. With the right setup this weapon has one of the fastest two taps, intense bleed, and the on paper second most reliable one tap shotgun in the game (only bested by the Romero) all in a single 3 slot weapon. You can't get such a combination in any other way, even if you'd combine different weapons. If you combine a bleed Springfield and a Romero you have to make one of the both a medium slot weapon, bring quartermaster and even then the Springfield only has one shot in the magazine, so it is not as easy to get the follow up shot out and the Romero handcannon would have a much lower range. By now i think that any price below 400 would be unjustified. With this gun you don't have to pay for it being the strongest weapon in itself, but you pay for one of the strongest all-round packages in a single weapon.
Gun looks fun, but I feel I learned more about the other options for similar effect. Always love the gameplay. Nice to see everyone has to play a person who is just so determined that you should rez them.
Absolutely love the drilling. Wish it was cheaper but I still gladly pay it….
Does Home really not have good primary and secondary weapon bound to key? I get the advantage of having tools and consumables 2 keys over but not sure if I can live without the direct bindings.
Either it needs to do 130 damage or increase the velocity of special ammo or it needs to be a 300$ gun
@luckynumb3r195
Жыл бұрын
Actually the short version of my rather long statement above^^
My thoughts on the drilling is it's too expensive for what's on offer. Medium ammo, inconsistent damage (not the guns fault, I think something is bugged. Noticed a lot of 50-74 dmg hits on center chest in the range), and only two shots. I think the drilling should sit in the 350 price range personally. The only way it would've been worth the 510 is if it had long ammo. Honestly, I think after using both the drilling and the uppermat for a couple days...I would've preferred if the drilling was the long ammo weapon and the uppermat was medium ammo and only one slot. No fanning on it. Fanning, no fanning, doesn't matter to me since I barely use the trait.
Would you pair this with pax for more ammo (because it can run out pretty fast) or with scotfield fmj for pen power?
@hilfTH
Жыл бұрын
imo spitfire with fmj best compliments this gun.
I think it needs to be lowered by 100-150 to remain competitive. The third fight clearly shows how much ammo you can chew through if you are unable to land a double tap
The lemat carbine however has slow bullet speed and shotgun spread which resembles the reflection of a disco ball
@HomeReel Drilling really needs a velocity increase for its special ammo, it's the only gun with such a massive velocity drop percentage wise when switching from normal to special ammo. Makes no sense, esp. for a gun with that massive of a price. Crytek ought to look into that.
Seems like a centennial situation. Devs probably think the gun will perform very good because of theories and the stats on paper, but eventually they will realize that it needs a balancing in price. When the centy came out it was costy, clunky and also had less max ammo. All of these got buff and now it's perfectly fine.
@spyzebyo9466
Жыл бұрын
I don't think that they'd really price it at 500 because they think it's value is 500. When I think of what I would be paying for it on a regular basis, id come more to a 300 then a 500. I think it's more because it's new, and with the sharp price they avoid ever mofukker and their mom playing it. Would be my guess.
I just cant figure out how to hit with it on range. Also only really works with slugs for shorts
I get why they priced it so high,they didn't want it to become the default best in slot weapon,the gun should cos no more than 350 imo
@spyzebyo9466
Жыл бұрын
Based. I feel like I'd play it like a regular gun at 350 or lower, probably 310 would be good. When I have to pull out 500 for a medium ammo bleeder It just doesn't match the mosin range, speed and consistency
Were the Lemat Carbine sights fixed this patch?
The drilling feels like a Martini Henry with a Romero attached to it. Having two guns in one is strong. However, 510 for the rifle is very pricey and should be in more like 400 range. If they added a talon/trauma variant, 510 feels right for having even more utility.
@contentuser8821
Жыл бұрын
nah. Martini henry is trash and single shot. this feels like a sniper rival with romero.
@Jadee95
Жыл бұрын
@@contentuser8821 found the mosin man
@danielvankirk3139
Жыл бұрын
@contentuser8821 Given that the sights are more precise like the martini and have similar damage stats. Both need two chest shots to kill. The two have similar play styles of midrange rifle. Besides being able to fire two shots rapidly, there isn't much to compare to Caldwell, even with slugs. The Martini Henry isn't trash, Home Reel literally has a video explaining why it's not.
@cassidy8307
Жыл бұрын
It's not really comparable to a martini, the damage isn't good enough for that. It's more like a double barrel officer carbine with improved damage, plus a slightly worse romero. Even writing it down, it doesn't seem like it should cost as much as a mosin.
Home, what is your impressions of the Uppermat? I'd love a video about it
@MysteriMaan
Жыл бұрын
Same. I need uppermat review because it seems dogwater right now. - Medium slot - 120 dmg despite being long ammo - cannot be fanned - $440 (More than Mosin obrez and Uppercut) - Shotgun mode is comedy
The drilling should cost 300 tops in my book, and even then I would think twice before buying it because i am just that kind of person who sees lebel's and mosin's cost and thinks "welp, guess I ain't playing with it" while having hundreds of thousands of dollars.
@roymcgrath9236
Жыл бұрын
I just hid a hundred grand and still find myself useing free hunters lol
@willieearles3151
Жыл бұрын
I have less than ten thousand and I never buy long ammo guns outside of needing them for the quest lines. Where the fuck are you guys getting so much money?
this is great and all but when will they fix the bleed glitch?
Nice clips. Did you necro him again though? He had Resilience.
It's such a fun gun but yeah... how is it in the same price range as the mosin and lebel
Okay but have you tried the necro?
I can't wait to get the next 10 event levels so I can finally play with this! It seems so fun so I've been practising by using the centennial shorty paired with a romero or bow. The shorty has same damage and velocity and I'm getting happy with my results using it so far
@dem4xed
Жыл бұрын
Didn't you find any on the ground yet? I have 2 in my inventory and I lost 2 due to dying with it. I am saving them a bit tho. Don't wanna loose them again. But I think soon, I'll be using them. For me it's also just 10 levels away
I swear that happens every time I tell someone to back off XD they just stay there and then get headshot
Ngl your friend reimagined the term necrophiliac xD
Hey yo, a question regarding price balance. Would you think incrementally increasing the price of a gun, every time you buy it, is a viable option as additional balancing? It would incourage people to play different weapons, to avoid increasing te price of a gun too much. Compact amo weapon price would increase less every purchase, respect to a medium, and the medium less than a long amo weapon. It also would make sense in a free market setting, more you buy one thing more it cost... I think it would bring back the sensation that each weapon in hunt has value. More over, it could inspire devs to use the classic currency of hunt in a more intricate way. With bets or a black market that makes sense
What is strange is that the actual original M30 Drilling was two shotgun barrels on top of a single rifle barrel. Also I know my Hunt streamers as I heard Geef and Dennis. $500 is way too much. You could bring a Martini and a Romero which would do the same thing and cost less than half.
@willieearles3151
Жыл бұрын
There’s various versions of the drilling, the M30 is only one of them (and doesn’t exist during this time period). Any three-barreled break-action would likely be referred to as a drilling, as the name is German for “triplet.” The single rifle barrel design would make more sense logistically because you need a rifle bullet to go exactly straight a lot more than you need a shotgun to, but two shotgun barrels and a rifle barrel wouldn’t have been as useful in Hunt.
@KG-th3cr
Жыл бұрын
@@willieearles3151 Yeah that makes sense.
Probably should be lowered to 400ish but i think a lot of players are missing the two potential of that weapon
if they wanna rework the price, they should do it in smaller increments. I think it's priced rather fairly, but I could see them nocking it down to somewhere between 390-470
@DamienCloud
Жыл бұрын
Lemat carbine being 130 and being very comparable doesn't make much sense how the drilling should be 3x the price, I think something like 300 is fair
@retroharu9999
Жыл бұрын
@@DamienCloud I agree, it should not be half of a nitro lmao
@akitahvanainen
Жыл бұрын
@@DamienCloud Lemat Carbine is basically only comparable with the shotgun aspect. So not that much.
@bilboswaggings
Жыл бұрын
@@akitahvanainen most fights happen at a range where Lemat is still a two-shot (or 1 shot headshot) sometimes three also depending on your ammo choice But with the drilling you can't even finish the kill off if you miss one of the shots (or hit a limb) The drilling kind of sucks at that range because you can only get one kill at that range and then you just have a Romero and your secondary, or you have to reload You can wipe a whole party with the Lemat without reloading inside the effective range (which is shorter and it has a worse velocity, but is that worth the enormous price difference when you consider the drilling only has two shots)
@akitahvanainen
Жыл бұрын
@@bilboswaggings not what I expected, but you still demonstrated why they are not comparable. ;D on a side note, it's really argument to say "you can wipe whole squad with this. Look at the amount of bullets.". When even Derringer can do that.
The thing is I have to unlock the lemat every time I’m prestiging right after the time I really benefit from the gun when there are no traits avaleble for me in the early prestige phase with the drillin I’ve got a vieble option there but this will eventually change too when the event coming to a close and the gun will be lvlgated maybe the price will go down then
@william6072
Жыл бұрын
Balancing a weapon around the prestige mechanic is a bad idea, it should be cheaper imo
Dude backseating you in clip 6 was making me see red I swear "You can necro maybe" x1000000 "I don't know if your medium bullets can outshoot that Mosin" at like 30 meters, with a two-tap gun lmfao
ngl i was in discord waiting for friends to join. and then when i was alt tabbed from youtube, i heard the sound 7:03 and said "hello who this". only to realize i was alone :')
Maybe contriversial but I think it should be long ammo at the current price point... like literally just make it half a nitro with better sights and kickback but worse damage and accuracy. With the new ammo changes I dont even think this is crazy.
@justtonofash6724
Жыл бұрын
I think people don't realize its literally 3 less velocity then a sparks and its medium ammo. It personally wouldn't make a difference to me if it was long ammo.
At first I would agree, but after playing with it and after watching your clips I really don't think it is. Like you said, it's basically 2 guns for the price of one. I've been using it with the Schofield swift with fanning. Tons of extra ammo and easy to get that follow up shot if you need to
I feel like as low as 250 or smth would be decent. Sure it's bonkers with dumdum and slugs but is it really *that* strong?
i think so esp with the current stats, either keep the price n increase the dmg to 130 n same goes for its special ammo vel, or lower the price to 300ish or slightly less n keep the current stats, as i said in the first vid id much rather go for a mosin if this was not a new gun
Do you think the velocity is to slow?
I appreciate the discord apology, not because the sound bothers me, but because it prevents the false alarm.
5:19 Hit registration seems to be as amazing as ever.
I love the idea of the gun, but the muzzle velocity really throws me off. Like the bullet is simultaneously too slow and too fast.
I am still far from unlocking this gun, but I saw a couple of videos on YT and I think it's great weapon, especially with bleed and slugs. For me personally it would be too expensive to buy regularly, so maybe they should make it a bit cheaper by a price of that special ammo.
"Hey man you should try and necro..........they seem distracted maybe try necro........I have resilience if you wanna try necro.....hey try and necro me." God damn I have realized you have more patience than me my good man I'd have told the man to be silent haha
I'd say the Drilling should go down to $300 or so bucks but they should remove dumdum ammo. It's just ridiculous, I can't believe they not only added it but BUFFED it at the same time. (Dumdum is fine on the Springfield)
I've heard the pellets are either bugged or just unreliable so if they improve that then I think it's worth the price. If you're expected to spend $510 and then also another $200ish on ammo then it's a bit overpriced. But personally I'm going to run it with a handcrossbow (poison/fire) so for a gun that can help me deal with any pvp scenario and a secondary to deal with any pve scenario (and burn bodies) I think it's a good kit.
@SeriphimGaming
Жыл бұрын
Pellets as in the shotgun? I haven't personally noticed issues with the shotgun, but I use penny shot and haven't tested that extensively. I can say the rifle rounds seem bugged. Not sure if it's hitreg it what, but it makes the gun horribly inconsistent to use
@dakotabarrett5585
Жыл бұрын
@@SeriphimGaming Yeah the pellets for the normal shotgun ammo I heard were bugged. The flechette is also bugged because for most guns flechette makes the spread tighter but this gun makes it wider and by a lot (it's the least accurate flechette in the game)
If you're paying for the dual function, then it's way too overpriced when you consider the price of the LeMat Carbine. I get that it can kill faster, so I can see why the price should be increased, but it definetly shouldn't be more expensive than a Mosin. But hey, I haven't even used the thing yet so what do I know?
Wow. Good freaking shot man
Are you playing with dennis???
I think they dont want it to start as op so they tried ti balance first with the price. But its adjustable
I’d like to see its price come down just barely to 450 or so. The double tap and consistent shotgun barrel can’t be undervalued. That being said, I do think dumdum (or at least fmj) should get some kind of velocity increase, because as is the gun’s normal decent speed goes down to compact ammo speed, which is silly.
Thing is a beast if you aren’t good with it either get good with it or don’t use it it’s insanely good and I think priced perfectly I am wiping lobbies left and right and get a sidearm slot to do whatever I want to with. You can basically bring an arsenal in with you medium bleed plus slug for the one shots plus a pistol (take your pick) for penetration or holding bounty bodies through walls. If anything I think it should stay where it is or get more expensive
Your friend really wanted a Necro lmao
Was Clip 7 with a developer? I swear I have heard that voice before.
Honestly, It's hard for me to justify paying more than 250 hunt dollars for this gun. Man, I wish we would've just got a shotgunless medium ammo double-barrel gun for like 170, something that I wanted for so long.
I consider it overpriced, since the 510 price is only for the drilling itself and none of its custom ammo options. As good and versatile as it is, a mosin should not be cheaper than it right out the gate. I think 350-380 for a base drilling would a be a good price point for it.
That one friend “can necro me” “necro?” “Try necro”
maybe you should try the necro....he has resilience XD
Id prefer it to be like 250/300 and be like the IRL gun, meaning it has 2 SHOTGUN barrels and ONE rifle at the bottom
I think the price is just fine for how great the gun is, the fact that you can effectivly fight long range with it ontop of the stack with bleed ammo, and then close range with its shotgun shell, after that like u said u dont need a secondary, so u can make ur secondary as a tool like weapon value like a handcrossbow which got its nice fire bolt added to it. honestly i think handcrossbow with the drilling is amazing u can shred most bosses with its poison and cover body rez unless theyve got antidote, but u can also burn pples bodies with it or choke ur teamate from afar. and hey you absolutely dont need a trait for the gun so even better use for it
I am not up on the pricing but the drilling feels like an objective upgrade to the caldwell rival with slugs. I imagine the pricing is fixed so high as a result of the comparison between the two?
are you playing with geef?
You do pay a premium on the lemat carbine. It’s a win vandel and Romero hand cannon combined. That’s $70 vs $130. The drilling is a double shot Springfield or centennial and full size Romero. Surely it makes sense the premium is higher for replacing 2 full size weapons rather than two med sized
Hey i have resilience if you want to try some necro shenanigans
Damn, I was looking forward to that gun, but not that price so I'll probably just stick to the Centennial. =/
I don't have Hunt, but from my understanding, it would've been better to implement it like the actual M30 Drilling (especially with the price being as high as it is). Because consider, a full-length 12-gauge double barrel with a secondary full-power rifle cartridge seems like a pretty useful and flexible weapon that can be used effectively at just about any range if you can contend with the limited fire rate from the constant reloading, essentially acting like a Sparks rifle and Caldwell shotgun rolled into a single weapon. In other words, a weapon that hits hard at long, medium AND short ranges that still leaves a slot open for a secondary weapon to use in case you whiff the one or two shots you get, OR carry a secondary long rifle or shotshell using weapon to boost the primary ammo pool.
I play on PS5, I havent unlocked the gun yet and only have seen one player use it so far. I personally find the price to be high but again i havent used it, for that price though I'd probably opt for the mosin post event. I saw this gun as the new all around gun so i figured 350 was the highest it could be priced at due to low chamber count and reload speed. I will admit that everytime i prestige i have 10K in the bank so maybe i don't take enough monetary risks. Happy hunting.
Personally I’d say it’s overpriced or at least priced to the point where it’s too punishing. >100 never gonna happen 100-200 cheap and a great bargain like the Alamo 201-300 still a good price but not OP 301-400 probably the most balanced area for this weapon imo. You’d have to really think if you wanna use special ammo or a secondary 401-510 punishing if you make a mistake and a question of whether a medium ammo rifle and a short Romaro would be cheaper. 510+ bordering Nitro territory
@seifertak
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350-400 would be ok price for me, 510 is way too overpriced...also the dumdum ammo have criminaly low velocity, I would like to see that boosted little bit tbh.
@apollolinaire2607
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Personally, considering the current strengths and weaknesses of the gun, 300$ sounds good to me. 340$ or something would definitely not seem too cheap nor expensive in my opinion.
I definitely agree with it being a tad on the overpriced side, i think the 300 dollars range would be a better fit for the drilling.
Is that Dennis? Hunt's lead designer?
Wanna try using it but dont wanna go broke just to test
How do you balance price without nerfing the weapon? Our patient has bleed ammo for long range, two tap for medium range and slugs for short range. It would make more sense in reverse order but pls keep reading. So, there's no range at which this gun loses to anything cheaper than $500. So option A is to nerf the gun and option B set it's price high enough so that vetterli with romero looks like a decent alternative.
In all your clips the Shotgun really feels like a suggestion, it's as strong as the Romero... A bit of indoor action would have been interesting. Great video anyway!
A fun drinking game! Drink everytime his teammates beg for necro
The main difference between the Lemat and the Drilling is that the shotgun actually works past point blank with the Drilling. Does it warrant that high price? I don't think so. I've yet to be quick two tapped by the rifle part, nor have I been killed by the shotgun part, and in only one match did I see someone using both the shotgun and rifle parts to good effect. Something that easily could've been done with a romero handcannon as a secondary. I don't think it's a broken weapon. I do think that it does wonders when you have good aim. But missing is heavily punished. Plus with other options like the Sparks that create the same level of pressure, I'm not too worried about it breaking the game. Mosin is still an absolute monster.
@jordanoconnell6103
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You can use slugs on the carbine and it's still over 300 dollars cheaper.
@argeliam1
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@leviathanr53 Agreed but medium ammo is dog shit aswell. 20meters damage dropoff is just sad
@sirminty8495
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@@jordanoconnell6103 Yup. Slugs on the Carbine are the way to go. Compact ammo has its own plights, but FMJ on it doesn't reduce the speed by much and makes it very viable. And it's still cheaper.
@jordanoconnell6103
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@leviathanr53 yeah but you can spam the shit out of it unlike the drilling, and as long as you can get headshots you're good.
Haven't used it yet but it does seem to be a bit much. Reload is super slow, 2 rifle shots/1 shotgun shot before reload is punishing, and the velocity isn't that amazing. It doesn't really look that much stronger compared to an officer carbine which costs less than half and is much less punishing. The Offcar 3 taps more often, but that's fine since it still fires really fast and it's not a double barrel.
hunt keeps weapon variety/definition very well, i don't think we should infringe on the drilling's "thing", but I wish there were an intermediate between the medium ammo springfield and the rifle portion of the drilling (though still unique in its own right) one-in-the-chamber works poorly for medium ammo, but a potent two-shot is something that is unrivaled from the drilling. I think the vetterli and centennial are great, but i'm tired of the choice between 1 round in the chamber, 5, or 10. maybe a low damage medium carbine with a 3 round cap, or something (not sure if any IRL equivalent exists). I just think the drilling really filled in a spot that the rifles were lacking. the drilling shows how satisfying that high-risk two tap is, and it makes me despise the springfield even more for how little it brings to the table besides price. perhaps the high price is justified, because a plethora of these rapid two-tap weapons probably wouldn't be good for the game. they can't be anywhere near as forgiving as a lever/bolt action.
@lred1383
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i still think the springfield does bleed better than the drilling due to the higher damage. With the drilling the enemy gets to shoot back, get to cover and heal with the medkit, with a springfield they don't have the time and have to sacrifice something
@4rklus947
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@@lred1383 thats a great point, i didn't consider special ammo honestly. thats a leg up for the springfield
Take a shot every time someone asks for necro.
I really hope Crytek lowers the price on this gun in a nearby update because I started using it and it is an absolute delight. It's such a fun and well-rounded weapon. It feels so much punchier than the LeMat carbine , and it's a powerhouse at almost any range.
They're most likely just playing it safe and nerfing the price after, rather than having a busted cheap weapon on launch again. after all they did just completely overhaul the ammo system, causing balancing to be finnicky, not to mention the dumdum buff.
I'll just say this: Lemat Carbine + Slug + FMJ -Two Tap Range: 49 Meters -Slug OHK Range: 13 Meters -178 Meter headshot range with FMJ -Total Cost: $245 Drilling + Slug -Two Tap Range: 61 Meters to the chest -Slug OHK Range: 14 meters -170 meter headshot range (210 with FMJ though) -Total Cost: $575 There are other factors to consider ofc but I mean, overall the value you get out of a carbine with special ammo is enough. Most people that do take special ammo on drilling take the bleed not the FMJ anyways because it's better than the range boost. The cycle time is faster but overall the drilling is clunky and reloads so slow you pay more for it tactically than you benefit from it anyways. I don't think it's worth it. I would pay a tiny bit more than the lemat carbine I guess, but the bleed ammo should cost a lot more imo.
These clips remind me that dauntless best trait in game huh.
The Dumdum i think it's ok because it does heavy bleeding, but the FMJ with 371 m/s is too slow... the base speed is 530 m/s, it goes down to 371 m/s with FMJ why? And the gun itself costs more than a Mosin.
I was initially surprised at the price tag, but I understand it. When you think about it, it's a Romero and baby nitro slapped together. And when I say baby nitro, I mean the OLD nitro. The iron sight is amazing for head clicking and I know that once I get used to it's bullet velocity (I've been exclusively running it since I've unlocked it) it'll be a very powerful gun. And on that note, my hunt wallet has definitely been +-6000 hunt dollars since I started doing this, but a few wildcard extracts seem to recoup the loses well enough.
@stevesmith6999
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The shotgun is actually really bad using buckshot, worse spread out of any 3 slot shotgun besides the Lemat.
@seifertak
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Unfortunately devs were very "misleading" on the shotgun part - it's really not a Romero-like, more like Specter or maybe Rival. Plus velocity on dumdum ammo is really poor. If they tweak those two things, the price would probably be justifed but right now it's definitely overpriced imo.
@shadowwolf7933
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@@seifertak Someone else in the comments claimed that the dumdum ammo is currently bugged and uses the fmj velocity. Not sure how true that is but it would make a lot of sense.