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@thedecider1984

10 ай бұрын

you grew up in Montclair, I grew up in Nutley.

I am not black. I have been living outside my country of origin for the last 23 years. Very rarely have I felt like I can show up as my whole self in certain environments. This can be a universal experience, regardless of race and cultural context.

@robinpesek3657

10 ай бұрын

Yes, that has been my experience as well.

@alesjanosik1545

9 ай бұрын

I feel the same, living abroad for 18 years now.

The best, most nuanced conversation on black/white racial issues in the US I have ever heard in my life. Well done.

@hope1416

10 ай бұрын

Strongly agree.

@davegold

10 ай бұрын

John Wood is quite impressive, discussing the intellectual in a diplomatic manner.

@TerryStewart32

10 ай бұрын

@@davegoldthey have met and spoke before. Is this the first time you have seen both of them in conversation together

@jackiechilds8047

10 ай бұрын

2 blacks can't speak for whites until 300,000 blacks die anywhere on earth fighting fighting for another race. The reason for the Civil War absolutely was a result of blacks being free

"We have lost a language with which to talk about common humanity and what goes beneath the skin. And consequently, we have seen people more open to the divisive and the tribal." - Coleman Hughes. This is a brilliant and eloquent observation.

@michaelweber5702

10 ай бұрын

Warstub , So right you are !

@jackiechilds8047

10 ай бұрын

John Doyle interviewed blacks for 2 hours at a HBCU. blacks hate whites, the most successful blacks hate whites more. Racism is open and admired in 'duh black culture'.

I'm highly sympathetic to the way Mr. Wood approaches the subject of "lived experience". When I first started hearing the term, I thought to myself, "how wonderful our society has progressed to the point where we can and do take in and process individual voices on matters of importance! this can only improve our overall view of things by personalising it, teasing the human beings out of the data a little bit to help nuance how we think about matters." Then I started seeing "lived experience" move beyond simply nuancing our views and conversations to dominating them, and I felt entirely bewildered. How did we get here? That we shun data, factual knowledge, and truth in favour of individual narrative? This is not what I had in mind at all! Wood synthesises my feelings on this very nicely.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

I don't know if data and evidence and a peculiar aspiration towards truth was ever a value of any society in any point in time. It's just a handful of mutants that have these perversions. The truth is that humans are a species that think along the lines of heuristics and biases. I'm confident that a concerted, heroic effort in education and other aspects of society could increase the number of people whose minds are infected with the truth virus, but it would be impossible to bring the majority of the population to our side despite our best efforts, solely because the vast majority of the population is just genetically inferior for that to happen, and there are also too many environmental factors hindering rational thinking.

What a great conversation! This is exactly what is needed for progress on black racial issues in the United States. John Wood Jr. speaks forcefully, passionately, and reasonably. He and Coleman have fundamentally different views, but they are able to dial in precisely and articulate the key differences in how they perceive black racial issues in the US.

Healthy conversation. As a lifelong liberal, the past few years have been a eye-opener as to the amount of racial grievances and thirst for “revenge” among the woke. Psychologically disturbing. Still processing the ramifications. Would love to see Mr Obama discuss this issue authentically.

@david8905

10 ай бұрын

Because he is a Marxist/Maoist ideologue Obama will never discuss this issue 'authentically'.

@JH-ji6cj

10 ай бұрын

The sense that it makes/made for conquering tribes to kill the men and boys old enough to take revenge on said warring tribe is certainly disturbing indeed maybe esp amplified through the lens of race-relations.

@markhannig1192

10 ай бұрын

Obama - or any politician - will not discuss this issue authentically because woke ideologists will destroy them for the honesty.

@brianmeen2158

10 ай бұрын

@@markhannig1192and that’s the problem - most sane liberals that are in the spotlight simply cannot talk about this issue honestly. This makes me realize we won’t get anywhere

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

Obama has discussed some of the core racial issues, but one thing became clear during his speeches and interviews about these: He will claim he believes in X and Not(X), because Obama just wants your damn money and the power and other stuff you grant him. He doesn't give a shit whether you live or die. That is absolutely clear if you review what he said over the years. At times (a few times, especially before his first election), he said some reasonable stuff about race that you would hear Coleman or John Wood Jr. say. But most of the time, especially after his first election, he was just pandering woke stuff to the masses. Obama could have been black jesus, he was the last person who could have stopped the US on the slippery slope of self-destruction. He chose to cash in instead by widening the divide between races and various groups within the United States.

What a glorious balm to my soul with todays news and my wobbly views of everything. So nice to actually See John Wood Jr, who I've heard so much about through Braver Angels. :)

J dubs moved me even more to the center with this one. Appreciate you both.

Im an pld white lesbian having my faith in humanity and reason restore because if your effort young man Coleman. I am blessed to have been ushered by algorithm to your channel ❣️🙏🏼😉

@pathacker4963

10 ай бұрын

Does your skin color and sexual preference really define you? Age I can understand.

I'm a Christian, and I really enjoy your conversations, Coleman. You're very fair-minded. Great guests. Great topics. Keep up the good work.

What I love about Hughes is his ability to keep that mental switch from going off in my head, the Nope switch. Then, alright, let's engage with these arguments in their strongest form and in good faith. Because there is a nugget of truth in every argument, no matter how poorly expressed it may be by everyone else. I trust the man's insight and because of that I'm always ready to be convinced, and always ready to listen.

@JH-ji6cj

10 ай бұрын

Extremely well put and a great way to express how his opinions that differ from mine never reach the point of irritation for me, because he puts so much effort into diagnosing the problems vs ideological or emotional reactionary responses.

So thirsty for honest, intelligent, nuanced conversations such as these. Thank you so, so much, John and Coleman 🙏❣️

This was an interesting conversation. Looking forward to seeing more content from this channel.

🤯 omfg! I was literally just ranting about this EXACT THING! The sheer frustration about America being trashed when compared to most other countries. Fences around an ethnicity is 💯!

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

And drugs. And crime.

I grew up with John Wood in Culver City, CA. He has always been very smart, chill, and easy going

Love to hear calm, rational argument and you both did a great job of modeling civil disagreement on the few things you disagreed about. These conversations are very important, thank you both for doing it.

Thoughtful, eloquent, respectful discussion. More people, especially blacks need to listen to this and think it through.

Love Your Mind Coleman !!!! Thank you for this Austin Grandmother !!!!

Great Cause ! Bravo. Thanks from Austin.

John summarized a profound point made by Coleman; "I've never seen anyone dwell on their victimization and progress into a happy life." The need for self-reflection and analysis requires all of us to do the work in our own uplift. While it is important to view others with compassion, it is counterproductive to coddle and reinforce messages of blaming the system or whites as their central problem and therefore the solution to their grievances. I wish this was the message echoed in the socio-political culture wars so as to motivate people to take more of a metaphysical approach to problem-solving.

Coleman, you really need your message amplified. I am considering becoming a regular supporter. You're more of a skeptic and critical thinker than some skeptic groups. If more people thought the way you do, society could be so much better! You remind me that I'm not insane and you actually have constructive dialogues based on what is really going on. Thank you!

Fantastic discussion. Thank you!

I don't understand how stewing in grievances leads to any real world solution. Taking into account resistance to mass apologies and what would be considered discriminatory preferential treatment to balance the scales, what can possibly be solved by focusing on grievances rather than pragmatic approaches. I know too many people who complain all day about all the problems that exist in society but not one lifts a finger to provide aid or support. This signals to me that they are getting some sort of psychological fulfillment by complaining, and after so many years of that, it's now a pathology. If it's such a painful reality they are living in, why continue reminding themselves and taking no action to change it?

Dang, John wood is well spoken

I love these conversations but it can be frustrating at times. I don't understand when people say things like, "i understand the sentiment when people want to keep on about the race conversations and the slavery etc, because it can seem like people don't want to talk about them." I think those people scared of the blowback they might get if they say us blacks try to bring that shit up too much. Most times people bring that stuff up is in situations where it is 100% not valid. Its the overwhelming mainstream narrative. Its being brought up wayyyy more than a lot of other messages. Let me use a plant analogy. Pretend were caring for a plant. And water is the jim crow, slavery, racism, etc. Sunlight is the accountability. Right now our plant has plenty of water to live. Most people are coming over to water the plant. Even though it has been watered a lot. When people try to come bring the sunlight that the plant also needs, the waterers say the sunlight wont help ad that we need plenty more water. We may need a smidge more water, but its hard to get a right measurement if we lack so much sunlight. Most blacks only care about the water and say the plant is dying bc of the lack of water. Makes no sense. But if you bring up sunlight, the overwhelming population will say, " don't you think that takes the attention away from the water we still need? We cant get sunlight unless we get more water."

@Hosebrain

10 ай бұрын

Funny analogy. I agree though. It does very little to to continue despairing over atrocities of the past, when black kids in cities have 50% or less literacy rates. But that's what politicians and the media want. They don't have to do the hard work to get votes, they just have to placate the undereducated masses. There are too many people who just want the lip service. Too eager to believe whatever their party's pick is saying during election cycles. Really sad reality we are living through.

You are both on the RIGHT track !

Love your podcast. Make it longer, at least 2 hrs maybe 3hrs even

Coleman & John, good conversation. at the 15 minute mark I am struck by the failure of all of us to internalize the main lesson of Adam Smith speaking scientifically - Poverty does not require an explanation. It IS normality itself. It is wealth which requires an explanation. Thanks to Marx we are lost in endless focus on what has gone wrong which hides explanations of what has, and is going right.

@hope1416

10 ай бұрын

Well said.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. The irony is that one of the greatest person ever to live, Thomas Sowell, who happens to be black, also teaches this. So how come the US, and US blacks are not familiar of the concept?

@jamestierney3572

10 ай бұрын

@@txdmsk Thanks, @d3st88 for bringing Sowell into this. I am not sure anyone deserves to be rated the greatest person, but he is an amazingly underrated expert on a host of history, poverty & race issues. His lucid, very well-written accounts are woven together with thought and precision.

Group identity gives us meaning. However, self-identifying with group identity too strongly (especially racial identity) separates us from other individuals, and it can blind us to the wrongs that individuals commit in the name of group identity.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

Meaning from most group identities is poison. I never had an identity based on my ethnicity, and that is the healthy way. We need group cohesion based on trust and order, rather than skin color and mostly imagined grievances.

@Autobong5000

10 ай бұрын

@@txdmsk Social connectedness is vital for the individual, whether it is a club, church, or other organization. Those are all in decline. Sadly, what is left is a narrow identity.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

​@@Autobong5000 Yes, and I think communities, or governments should play a role in facilitating social cohesion. My city has some large scale community event pretty much every week, especially during the summer. If you look at the politicians and governments (in the US, and I imagine elsewhere too) in the past couple of decades, you'll see that they did the exact opposite. Obama, for example, did everything he could to cash in from blck victim identity even if it meant throwing the US into the meat grinder. Group cohesion should come from a high degree of trust and enforced order. Meaning, I should see that the authorities are taking care of crime with an iron fist and various groups are not a menace on society (lets be honest, and note that blck and hspncs commit a ridiculously disproportionate amount of crime). Group cohesion should come with frequent interactions, a shared language and shared values. It is infinitely dumb, that blcks speak a bastardized version of English from redneck England. It is unacceptable that hspncs refuse to learn English. It is uneccaptable that often different groups refuse to mingle together. Group cohesion hsould come from shared values, goals, and responsibilities, and so on. TLDR

👏🏽Another absolutely excellent, insightful discussion!

Brilliant conversation

Amazing convo!❤

It was a great conversation but I felt a bit lost at the end when they brought Christianity into the discussion. As a Jew I understand what original sin is but it plays no part whatsoever in how I live my life or view others. I am born with a clean slate. I am responsible for my actions and I can only sin if I go astray in some way. Yes, human beings are flawed but only due to their actions.

On the beam as usual, Coleman; good interview.

@TheWhitehiker

10 ай бұрын

thanks much.

"You know why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe in it" -George Carlin

@_STNML

10 ай бұрын

Excuses

@robinpesek3657

10 ай бұрын

That quote from Carlin is a despicable lie. I grew up watching Carlin, he was clever, angry and often wrong.

@elitebeing21

10 ай бұрын

I can't believe people take that man seriously.😂😂 He is funny, but he is a socalist and coddle minority especially black people.

Coldman says he knows no one with a victim mentality who has overcome barriers, but learning about historical grievances can go two ways. It can go victim mentality on you, but can also help you understand contemporary realities and empowering if it helps you identify more realistic strategies for solving your life's problems.

Beautiful, thank you. So earnest and reflective. Reminds me of the Baha'i approach.

Don’t stop enlightening others Coleman. You have been called. It is a sacred trust. Those who can see the way are responsible to lead others.

this was a great talk. thx again Coleman !

The words ‘headmaster’ and ‘principal’ were used interchangeably when I was growing up, so it was interesting to hear your experience. Even the King of England had to respect the Headmaster - its a tradition. I’m embracing traditions now more than ever, and the more politically incorrect they are - the more I cling. I’m a bit of a rebel like that 🥳

this was an excellent discussion. i particularly liked this section 10:26 - 25:26. i think it reflects the complexities of the issues. i do not believe there will be simple solutions, and i tend to question the motives of anyone who suggests they exist.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

Here is a simple solution: Get a time machine. Go back to 2009. Tell Obama he will do as you say, or else. We will instill in black communities the idea that they are able to succeed in life if they put in effort. Work hard. study hard, get paid and the respect in society you deserve. We will cut welfare funding. More like take a bloody machete at it. About 70% of blck kids live without their father in their home. We will disincentivise divorce and one parent households by not acting as big brother daddy for single mothers, and not divorce-raeping fathers. People will have to think carefully if they want to produce children with randos. With an iron fist we will crush child deliquency, every little shit will have to go to school and perform at least at a certain level, or else. Neighborhoods will be patrolled more heavily. Commit crime, you get an iron fist up your ass. Damages will be repaired and criminals will have to compensate for them. Drug trafficking and selling merits you a bullet. And so on. I gotta go to a meeting now, but there are a couple of these things that could straighten out the US within a generation or two. Singapore did this and they went from a chickenshit 4th world country to one of the nicest places to live in. Put up a graffiti and you will not only pay a fine, spend some time in jail, but also caned. Guess how many graffitis they have? None. Try to smuggle in drugs, and congratulations, you won the death penalty. Guess how big a problem drugs are there? Quite small. It's not that hard. It's a question of willingness. The costs from the damages of not fixing the problem is uncomparably higher than the cost of fixing the problem.

Coleman aleays comes through with great content.

I cannot count the number of black people I know either personally or by following online who started with massive grievance, bitterness, and hopelessness and who then became Christians and become joyful, hopeful, and are able to appreciate others as individuals rather than belonging to a specified group.

I've been subscribed for a long time and your videos never come up on suggestions. I would watch way more if they did.

Embracing the universal truth that we are flawed is such a great equalizer. It is what has led me to healing from so much as has led me to ache to love well. I've found this through following Christ.

@Cyber-JOC

10 ай бұрын

Your opinion resonates with me. However it is a bit naive at best and wishful at its worst. The bulk of humanity aren’t interested in truth but rather, advantage and power. Our species evolved from tribes and the higher you were in a tribal hierarchy, the more likely you were to survive and even thrive. Praying to a God has absolutely no impact on the world. It’s a cope to say God makes ppl good. No, ppl with a conscience make themselves good.

@immensus

10 ай бұрын

@@Cyber-JOC My experience isn't that God makes ppl good - rather that knowing God and receiving His love changed me so I could see with new eyes of compassion, mercy, grace...

Two intelligent men have a frank conversation and making good points, not like the self serving race baiters that's all over the web

You will hardly find any immigrant (or first-generation after their arrival) agree to the American Dream being dead. It maybe going through a rough patch (even that is subject for debate)- the US still one of the best (if not the best) hopes!

@radhikaschwartz3499

10 ай бұрын

This comment is about as far fetched as it can be. The American dream is alive and well for immigrants in America, sounds like someone totally out of touch w reality

Fantastic conversation thank you. I’m adding the unrelated comment to this podcast as it is your most recent podcast. I’m not sure you’ll ever read this but wish you’d interview RFK. I just heard the guys at The Fifth Column try to shame and convince you not to give him the time of day but I truly found them unconvincing, arrogant and without thoughtful substance-much in the same vein as traditional media. I really appreciate your nuance and the ability to rise above the traditional thinkers. I hope you’ll consider it, I think it would be a fabulous episode. RFKs views seem much more nuanced than he’s given credit for and he’s far superior to either Trump or Biden as a potential president. No candidate is without flaws, there is no question in my mind that if given the chance, the majority of Americans would prefer him to Biden or Trump.

You guys need to replace “low income Black Americans” with simply lower class Americans. EVERYONE who grows up in a lower income family (with parents without College degrees) will feel awkward or somewhat alienated in middle to upperclass spaces whether that’s at school, a college or a workplace. American society is not primarily divided along racial lines but along income levels. We can’t expect upper class spaces to accommodate or cater to lower classes to the point that they lose their own “identity”. That would be like saying they can’t have their own culture while still insisting that lower class white, hispanic or black culture get to stay the way they are. I’m middle-class in the San Francisco Bay Area and often find that people who are from a lower income group are very proud and unwilling to adapt. They won’t adapt or change anything while I’m constantly trying to accommodate them. My experience is from a public school setting where many (not all) Hispanic students and parents show little interest or desire in actually being integrated into the mainstream. For example, despite being here for years, many parents don’t speak English. Kids from lower income families (regardless of their race)are usually weaker academically, they are absent from school more often and show up late more frequently. Sorry, but schools and workplaces can’t lower their standards to accommodate for those who are unwilling to adapt. If they aren’t interested in changing they can’t blame their lack of effort on oppression or racism! I sincerely want ALL students to succeed but it’s impossible if they don’t meet me halfway.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

People have the income causation thing the other way around. Lower income families are far more likely to have lower IQ and a worse culture. So the reason why lower income families are afflicted with problem X is not as heavily due to them being poor. The weight of them having lower IQ is significantly higher than people would think.

WHY HAVE I NOT HEARD OF THIS GUY before??? I listen (and read) McWhorter and Loury and Sowell and (yes) Candace Owen as well asTa-Nehisi Coates, Cornel West and (yes) Ibrahim X Kendi. This guy should be a whole lot better known than he is. Thanks, Coleman, for introducing him to me

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

2 legs bad. Four legs good. Blue bad. Red good. Right bad. Left good. This is the intellectual height the overwhelming majority of the population can climb to. It makes absolutely no sense to divide political views to left and right. Yet we do it, because smoothbrain, mouthbreathing boogereaters can not comprehend anything more complex.

"Woke" did not kill the American dream. Th dream was legislated to death by our "leadership" and enforced with bipartisan support by our government while we watched

I no longer stoop to arguing for legal equality. If someone wants legal preferences, I simply acknowledge that I do not wish to share a society with them. I refuse.

The only issue and question I always have is “What’s a sufficient amount of empathy, recognition or reckoning with history?” That cannot be collectively answered.

@jacobjorgenson9285

10 ай бұрын

Since there is no cultures or peoples who have not experienced slavery, pain, struggle could we have a world wide sob day ?

I grew up in south central LA as well. I just stayed in the house all day play and played Warcraft which is why I've never adopted any of the mannerisms of the people in my environment. Very sheltered life but it worked out I guess. People think I'm from the mid west or something.

I wish we could have had a conversation. I used to see you at the hardware store. Where i worked. Good luck to you.

Coleman, I always appreciate your well reasoned arguments. On the subject of Christianity-It has declined not only as wokeness has risen, but also as murder, stealing, drugs, lying , promiscuity have increased. Having a common moral standard has diminished. Also, God didn’t ‘put that sickness there’. Satan caused people to disobey God and sin came into a perfect world. The ‘program’ of Jesus Christ is accepting the free gift of grace for the forgiveness of sin. And God gives us the strength to behave in God honoring, moral ways.

@JH-ji6cj

10 ай бұрын

Sorry, but you are so very misguided. Jesus and the Church did not stop any World War and you'd be a complete idiot to assert as such. Be better. To not be Woke means to be able to parse information honestly and you know full well your assessment of crime rates absolutely gets destroyed under scrutiny. You would not be making your God proud.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

Most Hungarians are atheists. Yet crime is super rare there. As in, a tiny fraction of what you have in the US. In 2022 there were 89 murders. For 10 million people, man. In comparison, the US has around 10 times as high murder rate per capita...

Working on the French Dream today, in fact

This was a very "humanities/liberal arts" conversation. I went to college for engineering largely because I started reading science fiction in 4th grade. Europeans were able to go around the world stealing resources and conquering other cultures because they had technology that other people did not. Ever heard of the steamship Nemesis? The British used it to beat the Chinese in the Opium War. But the Liberal Arts people do not advocate mandatory accounting in the schools. And talk about planned obsolescence and depreciation in under engineered consumer trash. How the world works ain't just about race.

At 50 minutes, I thought he was going to say he wanted a black Moses to lead the black underclass to the Promised Land.

"The age of dreams is over? Don't make me laugh people dream will never die "one piece

We’ll done, gentlemen

It is for me. I was taking part in DV Lottery to get a green card every year for like 10 years. I stopped applying after BLM riots started. Because something seemed to unravel that leading to that point I was afraid will unravel at some point. Racial war. Well almost. But at the time of BLM riots it seemed like a matter of time. That plus more and more wokeness, gun violence and absurdity in US put me off for good. I no longer see myself living there. I spent 3 months (work & travel) in US in 2009 and I loved it. But nowadays it's a caricature of its old self.

For all the United States problems , what other country doesn't have the same problems or worse ...

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

To be fair, the US is in a much more fortuitous position than other countries in most ways. The US has never known real war. It is rich in resources, has a huge territory, its borders are secured by oceans, except for a small part in the south. And so on.

POTENTIALLY CONTROVERSIAL OPINION WARNING it could all be going over my head, but i don't feel like john wood was really saying anything. he reminded me a lot of jordan peterson. he seemed to talk and talk but say very little and often jump around different topics, after i figured out his point, i felt that you could sum it up in a single sentence. this could be my fault though, it's just the way it seemed to me. at least when coleman was talking i could follow him and felt like he was saying important things

@StorytellingHeadshots

10 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@robinpesek3657

10 ай бұрын

John Wood appeared to be a man who says the same victimization lines over and over again. I am so sick and weary. I am done.

I used to code search like crazy when I lived in Bushwick, Brooklyn. Worst thing ever was being outed as a kid (a white kid) from Connecticut. Even Upright Citizens Brigade did a whole skit about Connecticut when I saw their live show. I had presented my drivers license, and the tropes they instantly riffed on were, of course, hilariously presented. During my ‘heavier’ codesearching days, to me the highest compliment from inner city kids (regardless of borough or skin color) would have been, “So you grew up in New York?” It was always a vibe thing you, in that moment, wanted to be. Not Necessarily any particular race. I mean, even in my weird analysis of how my speech affectations changed, it was always probably at least like “30% Italian-American + 10% Puerto Rican + 40% east coast Rap music + the word “Yo” and “dude” .... I don’t think I was consciously calculating any of this, but rather, it was just like, upping the NYC vibe a few notches. I also spent a ton of time at raves and clubs, which were always urban multiracial experiences then. So that probably left a big mark on me. It still does. NYC and NJ raves were fantastic. I never dared say the N word though. Never in the presence of black kids or people of color, or any strangers for that matter. Way too weird. But I would say it like Dave Chapelle or Samuel L Jackson in the company of close friends, as I’m sure millions of white Americans did and still do.

@_abracadabra

10 ай бұрын

Did you mean code switch?

@voice_from_pizza

10 ай бұрын

@@_abracadabra no, the term as I first understood it in the early 2000s was “code search.” Wikipedia, I see now, has lost this version to “code-switching” but they are or were synonyms.

@Hosebrain

10 ай бұрын

@@voice_from_pizza I think maybe you misunderstood it then which is understandable considering search and switch sound similar. Code switch was coined in the 50's and there's no record of code search being used interchangeably. Do you have evidence or a single example of them being synonymous? Because "search" wouldn't really make any sense.

@voice_from_pizza

10 ай бұрын

@@Hosebrain was either an article in a popular science magazine, or an article on an internet blog. Regardless, codesearch was the word I chose to adopt myself. I disagree that the term doesn’t make sense. One is searching for a common language in the process. I do recall the article mentioning multiple terms for the process: both code-switch and codesearch. I liked codesearch better because it’s also easier to pronounce. Thus is the flexibility of English, and the nature of language evolution and etymology. I’ll keep saying codesearch.

@Hosebrain

10 ай бұрын

@@voice_from_pizza Buddy, unless you can show evidence of code-search being used in a manner (and official source) that would suggest it was, at the time, being used synonymously, then you need to just admit you got the term wrong and used the wrong term for 20+ years. From where I'm sitting, it seems like you are just wrong and incapable of admitting you are wrong. Maybe you did see the term somewhere at some point, but it was used incorrectly and is and was never synonymous with code-switch. "Search", only makes sense when you are really stretching to make it so. So with that said, will you admit you've been using the wrong term?

Neoliberalism killed the American dream. It's just been a slow, agonizing, 40 yr death.

Equity shouldn’t be presented like some oddly vague unfettered religion. If it can clear the legal hurdles, it should be a mutual compromise with both sides honestly weighing the pros and cons and writing the most effective and accurate prescription

Was impressed by the guest increasingly bringing perspective and sentiment of an opposing approach in and looking to reconcile it with generosity! I've really appreciated Coleman's careful thinking and criticism on many issues... But I am recognizing he can sometimes be surprisingly when he wants to believe things. Perhaps he's just unconsciously alternating between "can I believe this" and "do I have to believe this" reasoning based on his sentiments. Within those constraints he's sharp, but those are self deceiving constraints. We all slip that way, but I'm just noticing it more... First uncritical of new UFO coverage, then his uncritical uptake of some ideas about virus and vaccines. OK I thought, he's showing some blind spots around more technical science... NOW... He's repeatedly taking a correlation between BLM protests and US spike in homicides, and presenting it as a case closed causation. He repeatedly asserts the fact that homicide spike wasn't occurring in other parts of the world during the pandemic, as some kind of conclusive evidence. Yet in this same conversation he argues extensively about the many ways the social situation of USA is unlike the rest of the world. He also fails to even lay out the potential mechanisms of causation and test against available data. I'm not saying it's absolutely implausible that BLM spike was related, but it's just incredibly sloppy to assert it was the cause, when situation is this complicated and no critical examination is attempted. He thinks BLM protesting was significantly flawed. I agree. But I also find many other unique flawed policies and dynamics before and during the pandemic that are equally plausible as primary drivers of homicide spike. I'm not going much beyond saying things seem plausible,... WITHOUT some careful examination trying to see what fit evidence.

@brianmeen2158

10 ай бұрын

It’s not like he is saying for certainty that the BLM insanity is the only cause of the rise in homicides - he’s just saying that it Most likely had a pretty big effect ie the main cause . BLM and mainstream media have not only not helped modern race relations but they have worsened it quite a bit

@jeffgifkins7684

10 ай бұрын

From my understanding during the Great Depression the homicide rate did not go up significantly. They did not have social security at all back than. Even if comparing to other European countries the social security is not as good in the us it’s still better than it was back than. Also I remember Coleman had a guest one time that said arrests were down 50%. This could be a factor

@explrr22

10 ай бұрын

@@brianmeen2158 I just think concluding it's the main cause without further inspection isn't quality analysis. Determining causative factors and respective weights would be difficult even if you were rigorous in analysis. It's usually going to be easier to rule out things as substantial causes, than attribute them. Ruling out economic conditions as the sole cause of crime is easier, with the world contrast and compare process, because it's a specific claim with lots of contradictory evidence. The caused directly by racial animus hypothesis seems contradicted by examining crime data and observing that the vast majority of homicides occur between people who view themselves as racially the same. I'm not saying there was no change in policing or that there is a huge effect or no substantial effect (as sloppy ideological reasoning has done). A responsible analysis, would at a minimum, look at the crime data and examine the circumstances and motivation leading to the offenses and question how much those are subject to being altered by hypothesized changes in policing. If it's mainly interpersonal animosity arising and playing out in non policed (or consistently policed) spaces... You've got a problem with the change in policing hypothesis being the main driver of a sudden spike. How about reduced detention and incarceration during the pandemic, how about no in person schooling, how about a period of reduced in person social interaction combined with a surge in gun possession. Not saying anything is even the main cause. What is observed in my own urban community (Milwaukee), that has had the typical crime and homicide spike under question? Biggest property crime spike was in juvenile crews stealing Kias and Hyundai as part of crews doing underage joy riding. The biggest homicide crime spike was among young non-gang cliches that developed intense animosity on-line and acted it out when they encountered each other in person. The whole crime picture is of course more complicated and varied and might be different in other locals, but spikes like this just don't seem substantially subject to policing. I suppose, you could argue it created "the sense" that "social rules no longer apply", but that's a rather different argument. The reduction in criminal detention might also have been caused by BLM, but COVID and movement towards changing bail, seemed more the causes of detention changes. I'm not saying I have determined or ruled out anything.... I'm not making conclusions about causation. I am criticizing seemingly quick casual conclusions driven more by passions than analyses.

@explrr22

10 ай бұрын

@@jeffgifkins7684 I would agree the hypothesis that crime primarily due to economics is contradicted by evidence. I think economics can contribute, similar to how humidity levels can contribute to the prevalence of fire, but also require many other elements... Those who insist it's THE Cause ... Seem some combination of biased, manipulative, reckless, and poorly informed.

Our cultural consensus seems to have been broken. Can it be repaired? If not, what comes next?

Great conversation. Would like to see you go on with some race hustlers.

@Harlem1mentality

10 ай бұрын

Which ones?

@Harlem1mentality

10 ай бұрын

Because the hustlers exist on both sides of the equation

@thietrickster1824

10 ай бұрын

@@Harlem1mentality Who's on the other side of the equation?

@thietrickster1824

10 ай бұрын

@@Harlem1mentality Tariq nasheed, Roland Martin, Dr. Rashad Richey, several more

@Harlem1mentality

10 ай бұрын

@@thietrickster1824 Tucker Carlson, Larry elder, Steven Crowder

A great book, by Booker T Washington. “Up from Slavery” Born into slavery, and yet accomplished so much. Never adopted Victimhood although he certainly could have

He is also a person who doesn't look completely black. So, his look makes him more acceptable in many circles. He might have had a different experience if he was three shades darker with 4 C hair.

Coleman's Long Covid still impacting his nasal and throat passages?

Is everyone satisfied that Martin Luther King was primarily a Christian? I've had the thought that his Christianity and his socialism were 50/50 in regard to which was personal philosophy, and which was rhetoric.

I’m commenting while only being 33 minutes in, but something occurred to me while listening to the conversation. I think another factor in this dynamic of race relations and people saying things along the Kendi-Coates narrative is just general American culture now that’s largely a function and a result of social media algorithms and the internet in general. We see this all the time with other semi-related narratives that revolve around oppression. People are just generally psychologically weaker now and more easily wounded. And even if they’re not, there is an entire victimhood subculture that rewards people for merely stating their own victimhood. This is a cancer to the American socio-cultural landscape, particularly concerning race relations. It’s funny- my friends and I of all different races get along just fine and can easily discard these notions because they truly do not affect us at all. But we all grew up in the 80s and 90s before the proliferation of the internet and social media. Two more things real quick: Kendi is an empty suit, and Epstein didn’t kill himself 😉

11:48 unmatched until recently the violence in the black community has been a constantly attacked from multiple angles since before slavery ended up until now. I can’t name another racial ethnicity in America that has been through countless cycles and still made it out to prosperity. Even now we are getting better and doing better each generation.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

Read Thomas Sowell's books. He introduces a lot of ethnic groups that had comparable or worse situation than slaves. Chinese had a worse quality of life than slaves in the beginning. Japanese too, then they were interned during WW2. Irish people escaped starvation and other hardships only to find themselves in a society that hated them. Jews escaped national socialist death camps. And so on. Yet, they are now doing better than the general population. Also DO NOTE that US blcks are richer than any blck population in Africa. So as much as it is not PC to say it, US descendants of slvs are lucky. Stop with the bullshit. Look at Europe. Most of it was blown to smithereens to a degree that uneducated people can not imagine. With most bridges, roads, railroads, infrastructure, housing destroyed, most able-bodies men killed or maimed it rebuilt itself to heaven on Earth in just a few decades. They went from eating boiled shoesoles to feeding the whole world. Most US slaves would not trade places with post WW2 ravaged Europeans. Two of my great-grandfathers were killed in WW2, my grandparents were war orphans having nothing. Instead of pointing fingers and shifting responsibility most of Europe, including my parents and grandparents worked hard, to create a better life for themselves and their kids. This is what is missing from most blcks in the US. Slavery has absolutely nothing to do with it, besides making people butthurt and feel entitled.

You're kidding me.. right? Hell NO!

I am going to try to make to the 10 minute mark, but I have a rule. I usually stop reading or listening after the first flat out lie or mistruth. But since the question here is the stuff of science fiction and fantasy, as the "American Dream,: has always been myth? I will try to treat this like some deep fan commentary about some fictional world, like like Narnia or Middle Earth. If we are in a discussion about the magical land of make believe to start? We need not worry about reality.

How does a class oriented political movement advance in a country with so few poor people? Actual individual wealth, and the real possibility of even more individual wealth in capitalist societies, has always been the ironic regret of socialist leaders. How you gonna keep'em down on the farm (or plantation) after they've seen Paree?

Does Coleman Hughes have numbers for pre and post BLM police accountability or is it just his opinion? Who was tracking police accountability before Colin Kaepernick?

Do black people in general not protest too much? I hardly ever hear Asian people from India and China lamenting their misfortunes and covering them with layers of philosophical, cultural, and religious analyzes, hoping that these approaches would somehow provide an answer to their sad state. Most individuals inhabiting this beautiful planet come from a troubled past and are most likely heading to a difficult future. It has always been this way, with a few minor improvements, so why single out a particular race or people for special treatment? There is a joke wherein 4 zoologists, a French man, a German, an English man, and a Jew are sent to Africa each to write a thesis on elephant behavior. Upon returning to Europe their findings are published. The English man wrote about the Danger of elephant hunting, the Frenchman wrote about the sexual habits of elephants, the German wtote Das Elephant, in 5 volumes, and the Jew wrote The elephant and the Jewish problem. The very same joke could, and perhaps should be told, with the Jew being replaced by a black person. Get my point?

We are all black people, black men, black women, and black children, stop using N-words to describe one another, and stop using racial slurs when one hurts, we all hurt Buffalo shooting suspect wrote a racial slur on his gun Wake up Black people you can't fight racism with racial slurs stop using N-word or promoting it, this is a wake-up call On May 14, 2022, a mass shooting occurred at a Tops Friendly Markets supermarket in Buffalo, New York, United States. Ten people were killed, and three others were injured. The shooter live-streamed the attack on the service Twitch. A suspect is currently in custody. He is alleged to have posted a manifesto in which the author describes himself as a white supremacist. Eleven of the victims were African-American, and two were white. The attack was described as an act of domestic terrorism, Take care and God bless

John talks for a really long time before letting Coleman respond or talk.

@TerryStewart32

10 ай бұрын

He speaks in long sentences and sometimes paragraphs that if it was on paper or transcribed in a book it would run to three or four pages

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

That is fine. He does let Coleman finish his thoughts. I can't stand hosts or people in general who talk over others, and do not let their interlocutor finish their thoughts.

Once you get to the point where there is no clear demographic majority dominating the nation dysfunction and instability are inevitable.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

There is a demographic majority dominating the nation for around half a century now. They are called women. If you look at statistics you will see that female voters outnumber male voters every election by 15-25%. And women also highly, highly favour bigger government, higher taxes, bigger welfare, more immigration, being more lenient with crimes, single parent household and so on. So basically every degeneracy of society. And if you check how society changed in the past couple of decades you will see that blck kids living without fathers went from 19% to 70% in just half a century. Taxes are higher, government is bigger, welfare enslaves and destroys more and more people. The average number of years people convicted of crimes, inclufing murder actually spend in jail has been reduced to a ridiculous amount.

@LS-xs7sg

10 ай бұрын

@@txdmsk I agree that within the liberal ideological system women tend to vote liberal/left. However, this was not always the case. For example in the 1960s & 70s women in Britain were more right wing than men. It depends on the structure of incentives. Women are more prone to indoctrination because they are more sociable and empathetic. I think the liberal system will undermine itself because it will produce hoards of sub parr people and a smaller but growing group of conservatively minded people who have more kids. Cat ladies are not reproducing themselves but the religious and right wing people are having more kids. We have a lot of hardship ahead but in some ways the current nihilism and degeneracy is a kind of evolutionary purge of genetically deficient people. THose people who adopt liberal ideas will simply remove themselves from the gene pool. So not all hope is lost

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

@@LS-xs7sg You are right that catladies don't reproduce themselves, but irresponsible, low IQ degenerates do. Keep in mind that 70% of blck kids these days live without their father in their home. The percentage of hspncs and whites also follow. The trends are catastrophic. Partly govt. welfare policies, family courts are to blame, but largely, I think, it is due to low IQ, irresponsible degenerates without self-control, the ability to plan for the future reproduce far more frequently than more valuable people. And guess who they almost exclusively vote for? Demonrats. I think, at the end of the day, they will outbreed republicans. Then again, it's not like religious nuts are high quality people. They are the low IQ degenerates of the other side, and while they are the lesser evil, their profileration on this planet isn't exactly good news either.

27:50 that's human nature and also goes for white people entering a black spaces, when they are not used to it. Take any other racial constellation for that matter. Human prejudice is another example where it's confused with discrimination. There are certain traits in human nature you will never be able to get rid off. And yet intellectuals will tell you it's a social construct or discrimination.

I tend to think that racism exists about equally among all races, religions, etc. Therefore, in the US with a majority being white there will be naturally more racists,3 times as many. This, as in any country, will put the minority in a disadvantage, if not legally, at least socially. This is extremely difficult to fix, perhaps impossible. Certainly, we can do better but it will aways exist and everyone will have to deal with it. Someone tell me I am wrong.

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

It is silly to think that racism exists equally. We have polls about this. Blck people are far more likely to hold racist views towards whites than the other way around. There is also a perverted self-flagellating tendency whts have, which is really a form of racism. The same can be observed with regards to women. The zeitgeist claims that women are oppressed and whatnot, but polls consistently show that the population values women more than men. Including presidential candidates. Just google "For 2016 Hopefuls, Washington Experience Could Do More Harm than Good", for example. There you can see that 19% of voters would be more likely to vote for a woman, and only 9% would be less likely to vote for a woman. I'm busy, and cba googling a similar poll for blacks, but there is plenty of them.

This is what happens when there is a large gap in intellectual capacity between one speaker, Coleman, and the other who served a relentless word salad for an hour. Coleman was gracious to not highlight this and only intervene sporadically, but it made for an excruciating episode compared to his other brilliant ones.

@TerryStewart32

10 ай бұрын

I have to agree that John Wood Jr does come across as needlessly wordy and verbose without using his display of vocabulary to construct any meaningful idea or one that does go beyond elementary which doesn’t need so much word usage

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

I felt that John Wood Jr. made sense. But I wasn't paying max attention due to working. Could you point out to some of his errors?

@cgsather3309

10 ай бұрын

@@txdmsk I didn’t say he made any errors. He talked incessantly for long periods without saying much of substance, kinda like some politicians do. Coleman seemed bored out of his mind.

Tribalism is always easiest by the most convenient variable. Basket ball (shirts vs skins)

The statement about looking different is total nonsense now. I have seen far too many pink-skinned, white-assed people screaming that they are black because of some ancestors here or there, that "Blackness" is now as nonsensical as non-binary.

47:00 Here is another example of John speaking many words but getting to his point painfully slow. He speaks for a full 5 minutes and 20 seconds to essentially say that a loss of Christian view of the soul has caused people to attribute more causation to environment than to free will. Man that was hard to listen to.

People like John wood jr want to heal polarization in politics and society and the way theydoiitis to try to bring both sides together under the guise that both left and right are at equal fault. Mr wood jr please study the Bhagavad Gita. This is the story of a battle between 2 sets of cousins. lord Krishna descends on earth. Ie God in human form who then delivers knowledge and advice to the prince and great warrior of the Pandavas name Arjuna. Arjuna doesn’t want to fight his cousins and would rather put his weapons down and flee. Lord Krishna then has a long dialogue in the form of the Gita explaining that there are two sides in the war. One group is good, is upholding Dharma ie righteousness, integrity and high values of compassion and honor, the other side is evil.the family is full of hypocrisy. Cheating, dishonor, lying and corruption. He explains that both sides are not equal just because they are different and that it’s the duty of Arjuna as a warrior to fight in this battle and uphold goodness on earth and destroy evil. . Krishna is very clear that both sides are not the problem and each must choose to follow the high path against those seeking a selfish greedy path. We are in a similar situation today.

Why so quick to dismiss the reality of white slavery, especially including the Irish? At what point does the legacy of white slavery pale?

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

Screw slavery. Just look at Europe. Most of the place was blown to smithereens in WW1 and then in WW2 to a state that those Europeans would have envied the lives of US slaves. Then in just a couple of decades Europe rebuilt, and created heaven on Earth. People need to stop shifting the responsibility, and work hard.

32:38 this is why John is great but is not as respected as you Coleman. He spends so much of his time outlining hypothetical points held by others that it becomes really hard to identify what HE believes. He speaks like a politician in the sense that he says many happy words but his underlying point is usually not clear. I wish he’d take a stand on a topic and defend it. Instead he speaks in a hypothetical position, almost like he is constantly just playing the devil’s advocate. Until he does that he won’t be as successful in getting his message out.

The point you are missing is that reality of the past goes both ways. You are expecting black people to heal. But you are not talking about when and if the slave master's children have also healed from the pathology of thinking that black people are "less than".

I find these conversations about race, in such general terms, consistently miss the mark because the each and every "individual" has a story surrounding their outcomes. I think this rough equation can probably explain a lot of what's going on in the black community. (EX + CH + PR) *IQ = Social Success Expectations: family, cultural, personal Choices: personal, parents Proclivity: what one is naturally drawn to IQ: measure of intelligence If applied to individuals, this equation can explain a lot, i.e. the really smart kid who is an underperformer in life vs. the kid who grows up in a family with high expectations, makes the right life choices but has average intelligence, and who succeeds beyond norms. This equation can't be applied to Groups at all because all the variables are individual attributes.

@_STNML

10 ай бұрын

Children from the same family also have disparate outcomes. There is no “legislation” the create equal outcomes

What i hate has nothing to do with the video. It's the underhanded way algorithms control narratives. For this video it's adding adverts for Trump Sox and thus sideways associating sponsorship of Right-Wing agendas according to certain content creators under the 'guise' of a positive algorithmic feedback loop. Basically a new propoganda tool by media companies to control narratives. You can see it in the lack of videos found when doing searches against such practices. I could see a similar tactic of bombarding certain creators with more adverts than green-lighted content. Needs to be more transparency which is a trans ideology Google certainly doesn't condone.

@mmklassen

10 ай бұрын

Although as I’m watching from Uganda all the ads are local to my location here…

@JH-ji6cj

10 ай бұрын

@@mmklassen it's fair that I might be reading too much into curated ads (conspiracy thinking), but I find a lack of anti-youtube content links to be suspicious as well. If you're not being politically targeted by ads, be grateful, lol. Thanks for the response.

What happens if and when the wealthiest person on the planet has dark skin?

@txdmsk

10 ай бұрын

What happens when the wealthiest group of people with black skin live in the USA, not on the African continent?

he barely talked about republican stuff

At 17:45 in the video, I disagree with Coleman. The Great Gatsby Curve summarizes why: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Gatsby_curve

@chickenfishhybrid44

10 ай бұрын

That's for the countries overall though. He was specifically talking about for immigrants to a country. If you singled that group out, maybe the data would look the same or similar, idk.