Can't remember the last time I've watched an entire NBA game. After watching about half a quarter I get bored or frustrated with all the weak foul calls and pointless three point shots and I turn it off.

@traceybean9449

3 жыл бұрын

you are so correct. the game is boring. these players are 3pt shot or nothing at all. game is unbearable to watch

@djbhe

2 жыл бұрын

The same for me. SMH

@traceybean9449

2 жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Jones & the Kool-Aide Crew do you know what's worse than leftist politics ??????? Right wing politics and ideals

@jccgold

2 жыл бұрын

@@traceybean9449 like the democrats trying to legalize censorship, calling it fighting hate speech? You're blue pilled

@traceybean9449

2 жыл бұрын

@@jccgold i'm neither Republican or Democrat. They're BOTH TRASH. My point is don't critisize one party when yours is just as corrupt and bad

I remember when an NBA team has only 1 at most 2 three point specialist (like chess, everybody has their own role). When ray Allen shot a 3, it feels really amazing and very important because it was rare. Now everyone is just shooting 3 pointers, it became boring.

@nine3seven

Жыл бұрын

🎯

@jimmykarlsson2567

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my point also 💪💪💪 even those uncontested layups and dunks doesn't feel the same because they are uncontested. Back then you always said ohhhh or ahhhh when a dunk or a nice layup was made in the traffic. Now everyone moves out the way. In my opinion all of the fun elements are gone, contested layups/dunks, bigman game inside, fadeaway jumpers in the middle, all players had thier different roles, good defense, variety in the game or between teams, franchise players who stays with one team instead of chasing easy money, lack of interest/passion in general, no trash talking, no competivness. All of that is pretty much gone since about 10-12 years ago

@shaft9000

11 ай бұрын

The worst take of all: "The players are more skilled now!" (as they forget how to shoot the middy) while ignoring that _when you only take one to three 3pt attempts per game, a far higher proportion of your total 3pt attempts are going to be end-of-quarter AND shot-clock beating chucks/heaves._ ...compare that to now, where players take many more 3pt shots in rhythm - with spacing - to give the shooter more time before the closeout gets there. Players also now will intentionally avoid taking end-of-quarter heaves - just to keep their self-serving 3pt% "up". (as they forget how to shoot the middy)

@angeletaylorbragas8663

11 ай бұрын

At this point we should stop calling 3 point shooters players because they don’t play. They only shoot.

This is more evident now when you watch NBA superstars struggle in international tournaments because they were used to NBA rules.

@rupertgordonii6623

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I said the same thing

@jbiehl8478

2 жыл бұрын

Also maybe international players got better?

@John6-40

2 жыл бұрын

@@jbiehl8478 Nah. That's an excuse. Despite more foreign talent in the NBA, the vast majority of the best players are still from the USA. We have LeBron, KD, Steph, Harden, Kyrie, Booker, Kawhi, AD, etc. That team on paper would smash the best of the rest. And most other Olympic teams only have a small handful of NBA players, with most of them not being stars. So it's definitely not a matter of talent. Pretty sure we lost to a team led by Patty Mills. 🤢

@cloudunderweather9554

Жыл бұрын

its actually hilarious imo... next olympics or international game don't be surprised if we get eaten alive.

@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, obviously. If you play with different rules then it’s hard to you know... suddenly start playing a completely different game

Bring DEFENSE back to the NBA!!!

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

They can't, it's all about Video Games & Fantasy Sports

@dumisatonyjohnson8145

2 жыл бұрын

I’d rather play 2K than watch an actual ball game Today’s NBA is a joke

@percyvaljenkins

2 жыл бұрын

Bring defense back to football too......

@alexescutia4805

2 жыл бұрын

Easier to play d back when you just had to crowd the paint for as much as the 3 point era is shit on we at least learned the value of spacing from it

@j-us-t_be-in-g

2 жыл бұрын

The defense is there. They need to emphasize more. There's more space to cover because of the three pointer...forcing defenders to cover more ground to contest shooters. And that's why teams play more zone type defenses...to occupy the "zone" of their nearby offensive player but also able to provide help-side. Or teams, for the most part, play man-to-man but just provide hell of help-side.

It is kind of boring watching the game where everyone is afraid to go in the paint

@samuraicake5015

2 жыл бұрын

Be a Bucks Fan

@thefrenchfryguy9959

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuraicake5015 exactly🤣💪

@jmarcguy

2 жыл бұрын

I actually enjoyed watching the Bucks in the playoffs. Most NBA I’ve watched in years.

@RobD-jq7ry

2 жыл бұрын

What are they afraid of...if you touch a pinky on someone's leg its a technical.

@darko714

2 жыл бұрын

Russ isn't afraid to go in the paint. That's why people pay to watch him.

Basketball has been ruined for years. Did people really think the game would get more challenging once they practically removed players' ability to play defence?

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

Facts, Fantasy Sports and Video games run the NBA

@dumisatonyjohnson8145

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peakfreud true

@InsaneD602

2 жыл бұрын

Which makes no sense attack the paint more draw more fouls get good at hitting free throws haha I hate the game now it’s so damn boring

@sambeezy007

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peakfreud and the video games aren't that great at all compared to the early 2000s

@jwaynecitizen

2 жыл бұрын

They call too much contact and the refs are inconsistent. They also need to put some techs and big fines on all this flopping. I would say if they catch a flop after reviewing tape that’s a fine. If they catch it in game, especially after a review it’s a tech & a fine.

I can't even watch an NBA game today. There's no physicality. What would Shaquille O'Neal do in the NBA today? Rick Mahorn? Dennis Rodman? It's all threes and easy layups. Sucks.

@joshmirr7366

2 жыл бұрын

Shaq is going to be weak spot on defense somehow. They will keep him running.

@derekmaldonado4672

2 жыл бұрын

Just sprint to the basket, take the ball and score. They can’t foul you. If they do take your free throws and more than likely, three point plays. Because who the hell can stop those guys at full speed?

@soloistdeve

2 жыл бұрын

Shaq would be fouled out in the first half in today's game because his game was extremely physical. Rodman? LOL, He would be out in the first quarter.

The 3 point shot completely changed the game. All you need to watch is the last 3 minutes of any game. I don't watch basketball anymore.

@alexandrosanastasopoulos7309

Жыл бұрын

LITERALLY!! I used to watch entire NBA games or entire highlight videos, but now I simply CANNOT watch an entire game and just skip to the end of the highlight videos.

I remember doc rivers saying "everyone wanted to be like the warriors (a jump shooting team), but no one can shoot like them"

@retronerds6884

2 жыл бұрын

The rockets learned that the hard way 27 straight missed

@zohoro96

2 жыл бұрын

@Daniel Harper dont blame the warrior boy for being so goddamn good that everyone want to be a wannabe warrior like blame the other team for abandoning their style and focusing on 3 now

@zohoro96

2 жыл бұрын

@Daniel Harper sure sounds like it……so tell me what you mean not even the warrior can shoot like the warrior cause that shit is dumb as fuck like go on tell me

@kjrobinson4105

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@kjrobinson4105

2 жыл бұрын

@@retronerds6884 exactly

They should change the hand check rule, perimeter defense is also a joke in the NBA right now

@tc699

2 жыл бұрын

For too many teams today, the NBA game devolves into a style of play that resembles offensive drills. The lack of defense (or offense that seeks to challenge any defense) is astounding.

@jmgonzales7701

2 жыл бұрын

They should shorten the three point line so defenses can recover quickly.

@nomadicrain

2 жыл бұрын

Super hard to play aggressive defense when if you breathe on a dude, you've just gifted them 3 shots from the stripe and if they nailed their trey, they are turning in a 4 point play. Can't chance a 4 point swing so no defense and hope you hit your three at the other end to keep pace.

@charlesljones2454

2 жыл бұрын

Why......hand checking is really holding a player to negate his quickness......it's like pushing a player with your arms extended ......it's an obvious foul.

@charlesljones2454

2 жыл бұрын

@@nomadicrain it all depends on what you call aggressive defense ......some people think aggressive defense is beating the hell out of people .

The 3 point shot has DEFINITELY ruined pick up basketball 😢

@vandave1517

2 жыл бұрын

AGREE!!!!!! This one really affect me lol I'm the type of guy who hussle under the basket and it is so frustrating that everytime I play pick up games 4 of my teammates is relentlessly jacking up 3s leaving me under the rim fighting for rebounds against 4 defenders lmao

@keitharchie8120

2 жыл бұрын

LOL!!!!

@sambeezy007

2 жыл бұрын

I swear. Yes 3 is more than 2 but 2 is easier than 3. Like women

@danielanyieeng9986

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely and completely. It's equivalent to throwing balls into a basket at a funfair event . Nothing more. NBA is now owned and monopolized by the irritating teeth guard showman steve curry. There's no more curry left for basketball fans to look forward to. I for one have lost interest completely in NBA games nowadays.

@elhajjmalikel6266

Жыл бұрын

Bro, I was watching highlights months back with the Lakers vs Magic with Los Angeles playing in Orlando. I kid you not, there was not one mid-range jumper in the whole highlights. It was all threes or layups with the occasional dunks. Super boring game.

That Nuggets 4 on 2 break where they all camped at the 3 & no one in the paint is exactly what's wrong with the league today.

The high volume 3's were fun when it was unique, now it looks like a game of horse. Boring.

@joshtaylor9884

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. There is no variety in today's NBA. 29 teams feel like "Golden State lite".

@rurouni82

2 жыл бұрын

What’s even more frustrating is lot of these guys aren’t even good free throw shooters. Before we were taught don’t even try to take 3s if you can’t make your free throws.

@senseichess8688

2 жыл бұрын

@@rurouni82 and they shoot them with no one under the basket often

@ericbogar9665

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone has one go to move. The three pointer. Talent has left and all you're stuck with now is a lot of Steve Kerrs out there looking like the GOAT of this era. Steve could have done what they're doing too, but back then we understood there was more to basketball than just standing and jacking up 3s. 🤣

@Christopher._M

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Not to mention no team has shot like Golden state since Houston in 2018.

I love Barkley cause he is always real when comes to bs!!

@PepperJackBrown

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I may not always agree with his points but I love the fact I feel like he is honest with all his opinions

@RedFeng007

2 жыл бұрын

He gave money to a beggar after hearing the truth to buy beer.

@DavidNBurnham

2 жыл бұрын

I don't always agree with Charles Barkley but when I do it's about the modern 3-point game...

@MH-lk8md

2 жыл бұрын

He’s a hypocrite. Go look at Barkley’s stats and how many 3s he took vs made.

@SeanCarterCFH

2 жыл бұрын

If by bs you mean time advancing forward than yes, Chucks old head mentality assures me that EVERY ASPECT OF HIS ADULT LIFE is managed by a much younger, much more consciously aware individual. To be fair, that's all older people minus the ones actively embracing change and progress 🤷‍♂️

The loss of physical play and weakening of defensive play ruinned NBA Basketball.

I coached a middle-school basketball team. They all wanted to jack up threes all game long. As soon as I got them to understand ball movement and that it's easier to score the closer you are to the basket, they started winning more games.

BRING DEFENSE BACK When players are pushed to the limit that's when they get creative. See how intense the NBA was 20 years ago and how aggressive they were. I'm not saying they should go back to 80s basketball but just allow more contact.

@crist3809

2 жыл бұрын

yea that is the true answer

@mikeclark1756

2 жыл бұрын

They should go back to 90's style basket ball , Without the hard foul.

@johnnikollaj496

2 жыл бұрын

Been watching since the 80's and I couldn't agree more. When the league favored scoring vs defense, it was all downhill from there.

@peterstark4562

2 жыл бұрын

I actually believe that bringing physical defense back can minimize the injuries thats plaguing the league now. Players now only have to rely on their lower body to keep up with the man they'r guarding. Let them use their upper body to slow down the offensive player.

@jaquevius

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely this. We don’t need the Pistons’s rugby style, but simple hand checking, one forearm in the back when posted, body on body contact for rebounds etc. Let men be men. I would much rather see a 7 footer banging for position that standing behind the arc waiting to jack up a three. It’s just mind numbing to watch. I’ve been a basketball fanatic all of my life, and I’m 51, but I just can’t watch a full basketball game anymore. Sure, the shooting skills are higher than they have ever been overall, but the rule changes over time have ruined the beauty and passion of the game.

Miss the days when having a top tier defense makes a team a contender nowadays its how many shooters a team has

I really miss the 90's. Rough, tough, raw, and when every team had a "must have" big n power players!

@akaliotp6766

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes and back when players would punch and injure each-other purposely with no punishment.

Modern players in general are *not* more skilled than players from earlier eras. The *league* has recruited players with different skill sets, because of how the rules have changed. But there is no way that Nikola Jokic or Giannis Antetokounmpo is "more skilled" than Kareem Abdul-Jabar or Hakeem Olajuwon. They may have developed *different* skills, but that's not the same thing as MORE skill.

@iironhide6209

2 жыл бұрын

The average player*

@AaronMichaelLong

2 жыл бұрын

@@iironhide6209 Still not true. The modern NBA in 1960 had 8 teams, drawing from a U.S. population of 180 million people. Now they have 30 teams, drawing from a U.S. population of 328 million people. While the league now *does* get 22% of its players from overseas, the number of NBA players selected per capita has gone up by about 60%, while the average age of the entire country has increased, meaning the real talent pool from which players are drawn is even smaller. Add to that the fact that more and more NBA prospects aren't completing college programs, and enter the draft from their sophomore year and earlier, and you've got a league stuffed with players who haven't learned fundamental skills, and have little incentive to learn, since half the league is actively tanking in lieu of competing. You've got a league full of raw players whose only real training comes from their high-school coaches, and for most of them, there's no incentive to improve their skills, because they're already getting huge paychecks. This is how a guy like Ben Simmons who either can't or won't shoot from more than 5 feet from the hoop is considered an all-star. Had he spent another 2 or 3 seasons at LSU learning his craft, he might actually have developed into a well-rounded player. The fact is, the NBA has changed the rules to adapt to the reality that they have more teams than they have talent, and the players they're getting are raw, and will take years learning on the court to have a chance to learn what they should have from a proper basketball program. So, they make defense irrelevant, and turn the game into a shoot-around. When Phil Jackson went to NY and tried to get them to adopt the triangle offense, the players wouldn't do it. It was too complex, and requires players to make decisions based on how the defense sets up, as opposed to just running predictable screen and roll plays. My point here is not that modern players are *unskilled*, but suggesting that players from previous eras were less skilled betrays a simple lack of understanding of how the league and the game have changed.

Worst things about today's nba: Too many weak fouls, cannot play real defence without being in foul situation, no hand checking, too many flops, superteams (can't beat them, join them), travels (the 0 step has to go). I don't think there would be as many three point attempts if there would be hand checking and that some contact would be allowed.

@genewickersham4593

2 жыл бұрын

I would gently use my forearm against my opponent in pick up games. I never would push them, but I could feel which direction they would go while keeping my eyes on the court and the ball. It was a bit of an advantage to compensate for me being sorter and skinnier. But they would cry foul, referencing NBA rules banning contact.

@josephD32

2 жыл бұрын

@@genewickersham4593 tell them, "this ain't the NBA, bitch!"

@tomislavprpic2569

2 жыл бұрын

Hate 0 step,basketball looks more like handball

@grrrraffe

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. They just need to bring hand-checking back. But the normies want to see offense more than defense. Boring.

@josephD32

2 жыл бұрын

@@grrrraffe I don't necessarily mind offense. I just want to see that offense being earned, not given.

The thing that old heads kind of got right is that teams live and die by the three there’s a less diverse style of basketball

@samuelbach1631

3 жыл бұрын

That's the whole point. Move the line back.

@mistersparkles1842

3 жыл бұрын

@@samuelbach1631 There really is no solution- analytics have changed sports forever; even if they took the 3 point line away completely- the analytic effect on that is unpredictable. Its never going to be the style of basketball we like ever again

@samuelbach1631

3 жыл бұрын

@@mistersparkles1842 Unpredictable? Noooo. If you move it back you get more big men scoring. If you move it in you get more guards shooting 3s.

@crist3809

2 жыл бұрын

got right? that is what theyre saying dumbo thats their wholr point.

@billybats4745

2 жыл бұрын

Mister Sparkles yup.... analytics has really messed up all sports to some degree

I watched a Ymca game , 12 year olds. ALL of them were throwing up 25 foot shots.

I miss defense the way it used to be played. The '04-'05 Pistons was the last team that really spoke to me defensively.

@mrmillennium2697

Жыл бұрын

And 2011 Mavs

I only watch 4th quarter now. 80s and 90s and early 2000s hoops was very entertaining to watch. But then again I'm a big Lakers and MJ fan.

@depannist

2 жыл бұрын

Teams can be up 20 early in the game and still lose, so yeah, might as well just watch the 4th quarter.

@senseichess8688

2 жыл бұрын

The 70s were fun to watch too

@Christopher._M

2 жыл бұрын

Games used to be closer and you would see more lead changes and ties.

@Terror832

2 жыл бұрын

Even late 2000s to early 2010s was awesome. Basically the end of the David Stern era. The star power was still strong but you had VARIETY. From the way teams played, to shot selection to cast of characters, etc.

@simplyjay0748

2 жыл бұрын

@@senseichess8688 move on

I don't mind the 3's, it's the lack of Defense. Every drive down the lane is an easy lay up or Dunk. No one challenges anymore, they just get out the way. There's no intensity anymore, especially on D.

@clannad4286

2 жыл бұрын

they call that business decision

That’s why they called 2014 Spurs beautiful basketball

@stephencollins1245

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more.It was artistic,selfless team basketball at its finest.

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

They were

Yes. Three pointers at right time by real shooters were something special and dramatic at times. Sir Charles nailed it. NBA back than was so much more fun than now. Basketball used to be my favorite sport to watch. Not anymore

@massimocometti6529

2 жыл бұрын

I miss the '80s NBA........

@bigbuffguy9589

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I _loved_ the NBA in the 1990s, but I haven't watched more than a few minutes in over five years.

@rdu239

2 жыл бұрын

@@massimocometti6529 I also love the early and mid 90's all players go physical with one another

@527Kenny

Жыл бұрын

I looked forward to watching the 80's NBA on TNT every Tuesday night. :)

@mitchelll3879

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the league isn't going to have to start limiting number of threes..or ???

i’m kinda miss post up game and when big man use yo dominate and team rivalry

@melod1767

2 жыл бұрын

Those were great times.

@jmgonzales7701

2 жыл бұрын

We need to go back to ball movement style.

@jjerrodaustin

2 жыл бұрын

Strategy ball

@franmadaraki616

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to happened as long as long 3 second violation in the paint rule is in effect

@foreign_maddogmamorris809

2 жыл бұрын

Well guess what we have no big men like that

This is why I like the current Phoenix Suns right now. They are Old School and Position played team.

@andyraphael

2 жыл бұрын

I've told a few of my coworkers that

@peterstark4562

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Cp3 still plays like an old school pg. Devin booker plays like an old school SG. Crowder plays like your old school defender/shooter like bruce bowen, shane battier, trevor ariza etc, and Ayton just pound it inside the paint like an old school center. What they only missing is an old school power forward.

@myblacklab7

2 жыл бұрын

I like them too, but everyone shoots a lot of threes now.

@jmgonzales7701

2 жыл бұрын

@@myblacklab7 i think its still beneficial for all players to play have a 3 point shot in their arsenal. Just dont let them make a living on it and focus on their position's specific roles.

@nomadicrain

2 жыл бұрын

@@jmgonzales7701 nah, your big needs to be under the boards rebounding, blocking shots, and making anyone coming into the lane think twice. The big getting out to the perimeter just weakens the entire team in my book. If your big doesn't want to be a big but wants to be a perimeter player, then that is a soft big that needs to move on, imo..

The one thing that drives me crazy is soft defense because they're so afraid of the kick-out. Let a team take their big's and just dump it into them all day. Nobody can stop them because nobody plays defense in the paint anymore.

Simple answer.....YES, I agree 100% with Barkley, If you grew up watching the NBA in the 80's, 90's and early 2000"s then you witnessed NBA basketball at it's highest level.

Remember the grindhouse grizzles and the we believe GSW ? These teams have no identity or personality of their own. Everyone is a GS clone or wannabe.

@heatherphillips5983

2 жыл бұрын

I do. I live in Memphis, and the Grit and Grind Grizzlies were the shit. GSW first championship with Curry, they even said the hardest series, was against the Grizzles, because they actually played old school defense first basketball.

Three point shooting contest and flop for fouls. Step back or side is a step forward. If AI did it would be banned.

I think the NBA ratings speak for themselves about how people feel about this era of the NBA.

If coach Bobby Knight would have been the Denver coach when they pulled this stunt he would have thrown around every single chair in that stadium!!!! 3:50 Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@iwantmyutube9040

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 totally!

The current NBA is like watching some old white men's recreational league down at the YMCA. The only difference is how often the 3 point shots are made. Boring. Bring the 90s back.

I found it entertaining when the warriors were doing it and shortly after that. But for the past year watching NBA has been boring compared to watching Magic Johnson era highlights

@slimphotog

2 жыл бұрын

Good point about the Magic highlights. I think the essence of the game that people really appreciate is passing. Teamwork involving more than one player is always more interesting in the long run than 1 on 5.

@massimocometti6529

2 жыл бұрын

@@slimphotog Spot the difference between "no look" passes from Magic and LBJ........

@elhajjmalikel6266

Жыл бұрын

Remember for years people thought the San Antonio Spurs were boring? Over the years I've learned to appreciate their fundamental, unselfish play-style; it's honestly beautiful to watch. We owe them a big apology because this un-fundamental game is just horrible to watch.

Such a GREAT content my friend. Well done ❤

I never understood this stupid push for the NBA to go European style. The Dream Team annihilated everyone in the '92 Olympics and they didn't do it by shooting 3's.

@dannizhu368

2 жыл бұрын

Luka has said its harder to get a bucket in Europe than it is in the NBA lol, he could've been talking about all the weak ass foul calls too

@truthiscensored

2 жыл бұрын

@@dannizhu368 True...Lamelo struggled in Europe when he played a few years ago, but he Rookie of Year in the NBA... Yes I know he was 17 but still...ain't much changed about his game except a few inches taller

@SM-nz9ff

2 жыл бұрын

EU plays defense. NBA players are soft and don't wanna play defense.

@TJJulkowski

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthiscensored his rookie of the year had nothing to do with him being the best, and everything to do with it being the worst draft class in the last 30 years.

@Cp-yx4ci

8 ай бұрын

NBA is trying to cater to the European basketball playstyle and attract the top players in that region to come and play in their market. That's why they are pushing it so hard in the first place. Capitalism and money come first, it is that simple, my friend.

Jacks from thirty five feet by players that would have struggled to even get minutes in prior decades. Flops so bad they ought to be in a bad B-movie. Free walks to the basket down an unguarded lane. Nobody even acting like they have any understanding of what a rebound is or why your team might want one once in a while. So many isolation plays that I don't understand why the other four players don't go sit down and take a break and get a drink for 20 seconds. It's ugly. It's eliminated so many interrelated skill sets that used to make watching basketball fun. I hate it...

@yaknow5252

2 жыл бұрын

Great comment; really sums it up. I too can't stand watching it; and haven't in years.

@senseichess8688

2 жыл бұрын

Your really right...you said what many of us have been trying to say...well done

I miss the 80s and 90s when game were more akin to combat than a game of HORSE. Big men battling inside, brutal fouls that sometimes aren't called when everyone in the league knew that player had it coming. But full disclosure, I stopped watching the NBA when Stern conspired to get the Sonics out of Seattle and into OKC. I wouldn't watch it today even if men were playing it.

@jacknewman9256

2 жыл бұрын

Bring back the Sonics!

@kozmeetorez

2 жыл бұрын

I almost screen shot your 1st sentence.

@dargondude2375

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you want brutal fowls? Bodying people isn't a skill.

@kilroy1976

2 жыл бұрын

Remember Hack-a-Shaq? Nobody could really stop him inside, so they'd just foul him and watch him make one out of two free throws. It was a legitimate strategy.

@rdu239

2 жыл бұрын

@@dargondude2375 That means tactics, using your body to screen the opponent or force your way for a foul counted moment, now everybody turned soft

Found this video after watching the Olympics Final between US and France. Haven't watched basketball since mid 2000s, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why both teams were shooting so many damn 3s. Big men with 12 to 14 seconds left on the shot clock dropping 26 footers, nobody in the paint, the whole thing seemed weird to me. Thanks for your video, great explanation of how the game has developed, though I now can't see any reason to get back into basketball

80’s and 90’s was the most talent rich times in the nba.

One solution: Make slam dunks 3 points. You won't believe who did this first. Kim Jong Un. He has his own rules of basketball in his country.

@genustinca5565

2 жыл бұрын

Was thinking about that option the other day myself. That would have problems of its own though.

@viewtifulviewer7282

2 жыл бұрын

3 pts for slam dunk. 1 pt for blocking a dunk / layup / shot. Move the 3 pt line way way up higher.

@jaspionccv9426

2 жыл бұрын

@@viewtifulviewer7282 Yes, that's a great idea!

@kopikoblanca8907

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh thats unfair for 7'6 players, boban can dunk without even jumping

@larcat6548

2 жыл бұрын

introduce a flopping contest during the all star break to go along with the dunk and 3 pt contest but let the fans decide who participates. it should be marketed as an embarrassment if selected to participate. that way, players will try their best not to flop during games and get humiliated by being selected to the flopping contest!

The 3 has taken over, it’s gone from a luxury to a necessity. It kills me when a guy passes up a layup for a 3. Don’t know what they’re gonna do to fix it,. One good thing a game is never over.

@mikeclark1756

2 жыл бұрын

Bring back hand checking .

@bryansteele8368

2 жыл бұрын

Move the three point line back? That might work

@rdu239

2 жыл бұрын

Thats simple, encourage the guys to be more physical and challenge the opposing players more to be rough and engaging

It will always be more fun to watch defense on a drive or on a post than on a 3-pt goal attempt

"Raptors only won because of specific circumstances" = literally could be said about every Championship team, ever

@drazenlutalac7596

2 жыл бұрын

I thought he was gonna say "scrappy defense." Nope..."specific circumstances." 🤔

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

Especially the Bucks.

@soloistdeve

2 жыл бұрын

Not every chip is clouded by injuries. I can count a bunch of them.

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

@@soloistdeve Circumstances & Injuries are not even close to the same word, meaning or sentiment.

@soloistdeve

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peakfreud He meant the injuries in the video when he showed KD snapping his achillies.

Larry Bird punching someone after bodies fell. That was the NBA I love. There's rivalry. Nay, intense physical rivalry. It's not just the 3 Point that's ruining the game.

@javigar133

2 жыл бұрын

Larry Bird had two punch fights in 13 Years mate. WTF, how basketball can he physical again when Young fans are softcakes

@ABCTraveler-ol5oj

2 жыл бұрын

The irony is you even can’t defend a three shooter

@javigar133

2 жыл бұрын

@@ABCTraveler-ol5oj you mean today right?

@kylein9869

2 жыл бұрын

@@javigar133 not just the fans, Adam silver is a huge snowflake too

@SuperSHADOWVIRUS

2 жыл бұрын

@@javigar133 so you want basketball to be boxing lmao?!

No its entertaining watching steph pull 30 footers for no reason.

@andrewm7351

3 жыл бұрын

Its entertaining watching guys like Curry, Lillard and Trae all pull up from deep, but guys like Giannis or Aron Baynes or even Harden shooting 13 3s per game (2019) is dumb basketball

@The_Jazziest_Coffee

2 жыл бұрын

@@bloatedstomach1678 especially they're wasting their height like it makes sense when lillard and curry do it, because it is their weapon for the lack of height what about 7 footers? it's just a waste

@iggyblitz8739

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe, I just want to see more variety in scoring, it's getting boring otherwise, watching MJ go to work with his mid range footwork moves was a thing of beauty.

@stephencollins1245

2 жыл бұрын

Steph is the only player that makes 3 point shooting entertaining.

@senseichess8688

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewm7351 your right. A skilled guy moving without the ball and firing away fron mid range us much more effective than some clown firing 3s all day with no one under the basket...thats how talented and very smart guys llike john havlicek got off

3pt Shot is good but do not fall in love with it, it sometimes ruin the entire play.

I do think it’s weird when you see so many three point attempts where NO ONE IS REBOUNDING. In these situations it really is a case of ‘if it goes in we win, if not, we lose’.

I am proud to be part of the 24% of people that are subbed.

@alextitchener3528

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@virtualabc7847

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@mrargue8946

3 жыл бұрын

Me to

@teanmace

3 жыл бұрын

Creators need to stop begging.

@rubiconcrossing4480

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not proud of this jxmy clone asking for subs

the league should extend the 3pt shot to maybe 24-25 feet, brings the mid range in to prominence once again, bigs would be able to actually post up and have a mid range game, Curry, Trae,Lillard become more unique with their consistent 30 footers, u can have the offensive uniqueness of the late 90’s/early 2000’s with modern spacing and better skilled players

@treviascolton2827

3 жыл бұрын

Thats actually not a bad idea

@rafaelchang6570

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds very interesting

@ZappakeR

2 жыл бұрын

Naw. All you gotta do is bring back hand checking.

@sacramentokingswillrise7525

2 жыл бұрын

You would also have to change other stuff too

@mcroadtrip7313

2 жыл бұрын

They should just eliminate the 3 points

The level of skill has increased (which happens naturally with time) however the rules have gotten easier. You would think better skill will result in making the rules more challenging but that hasn’t been the case. The nba needs balance. It’s literally a one sided show on offense. They need to eliminate the 3 sec rule & bring back hand checking. The favors offense way too much.

It depends. If it's like Steph or Dame who are a wonder to watch, it's fun. I just hate that that's all the teams try to replicate instead of variation. It's fun to see sharpshooters along with the bangers in the paint.

That’s also true that Kyries got hurt but if Draymond doesn’t get ejected the warriors win. They won each other’s rings simple.

@hanschristopherson8056

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why the oh but Kyrie was hurt argument is stupid, people just want to hate on the warriors

@okay5812

3 жыл бұрын

Both arguments are bad

@foghornfoggyface

3 жыл бұрын

Draymond got protected against OKC for nutkicking Adams and never got ejected. What goes around comes around.

@rxzesereniti9750

3 жыл бұрын

@@foghornfoggyface what does that have to do with them winning each other’s rings?

@amerzeb14

3 жыл бұрын

But draymond was available in game 6 and 7 though

This era of basketball feels more like the wnba

@bushlord5970

2 жыл бұрын

Except reliable

@gravesplendour3481

2 жыл бұрын

Except the wnba isn't just about raining 3s and flopping. Sounds like you don't watch it.

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you mean, the one on one below the rim , running away from the basket $hit... I get it.

@asanitheafrofuturist

2 жыл бұрын

Nah they play more defense in the WNBA and don't call as many fouls

Extreme low basketball IQ had taking over the whole sport

@soloistdeve

2 жыл бұрын

Forget basketball. It took over the world.

@mj23goat3

Жыл бұрын

Yup. That's why we got all these idiots nowadays that don't realize Jordan _hands down_ the one and only GOAT.

I think if Rodman was in this era his rebounds would be insane.

@markfrost2707

Жыл бұрын

any nba player told to not worry about shooting could have EASILY pulled Rodman numbers. Rodman has NO BUSINESS in the HOF. And that just ain't my position.......the HOF is NOT for role players. Dennis couldn't hit a 2 foot shot if his life depended on it. You wanna talk REAL rebounder who also would give you thirty-plus regularly!?? Try someone like Barkley who was also inches shorter. Rodman is the most overrate athlete to ever live

@B..P..

Жыл бұрын

@@markfrost2707 You have no idea what youre talking about. Even Michael jordan praised Rodman because he was willing to do the dirty work on defense. Every pro player respects rodman for his hustle. He played in a extremely physical era where teams were packed and every game was a war. kzread.info/dash/bejne/inajuKaCprLYlqw.html kzread.infoNodq2qe5pyY

@dlxinfinite801

8 ай бұрын

@@markfrost2707 You really need to stop smoking that shit. Rodman's rebounding records alone puts him in HOF...the entire NBA disagrees with you

Three pointers are not ruining basketball, but the constant flopping, foul baiting, and ref involvement is

@DADON99

3 жыл бұрын

Three point shooting is ruining the nba. Now granted I agree the refs are a problem. When dudes like Steph, Dame & Klay are jacking up threes...fine but when guys like Giannis, AD, Joel and most bench players think they can do the same shit as Steph...that’s the problem. There is no reason why Joel big ass is constantly standing at the three point line instead of being a CENTER and getting in the low post and babying dudes. Centers ain’t even centers anymore😂🤦🏾‍♂️. And they only do this because how the NBA soften the rules. You can’t hand check so it makes hard to guard these dudes

@darian11t

3 жыл бұрын

@@DADON99 nobody can shoot like Curry can

@treviascolton2827

3 жыл бұрын

You nailed it that should be one of there topics on the talk shows😂😂

@chicovoylez3216

3 жыл бұрын

Supporting BLM ruined NBA.

@samwelsh8241

3 жыл бұрын

how about all these power hungry refs who seem to think they are who fans comes to watch

I've seen this in any game. It takes time for players to play from cool moves to efficient ones. The 3 point era is a result of players reaching for maximum efficiency in order to win. People will always, ALWAYS resort to efficiency in the end.

@brianmaphar9685

2 жыл бұрын

shooting 3's is not efficient. Going to the hoop is far more efficient. Players nowadays are too scared to go to the hoop and take the approach of: I shoot 50 shots in a game, I'll make 15 of them and end up with 45 points on 30% shooting, which isnt even that bad. Downfall, which they dont consider is that opponent grabbed 35 rebounds and made them into 2 point conversions, thus scoring 70. Now who is efficient??

@luisvergara6502

2 жыл бұрын

That's just a terrible take. It's pure phisics. The longer the shot the less eficient. All you need to do is look at the box score and compare % from 3 and 2. It's just dumb to say so. What DAntoni once said: "if you're gonna take a LONG 2, you might as well take a 3". I agree with that. However some idiot translated that to saying that the 3 was more eficient than a 2 and everybody ran with it. That's just not correct. Some other idiot said "33% from 3 equals 50% from 2". While mathematicaly this is correct their assuming you're taking an equal amount of 3pointer vs 2pointer which rarely happens in the NBA. Again, it's a dumb thing to say. Going strictly with analitics is just bad for basketball.

I agreed with all your points. It is definitely the case that the 3-pt era has its pros and cons. I just want to add a point regarding the spacing that it provides. As the area of defense get wider, there is more space for each team to work with. I think more plays and strategies are created due to this fact. And it makes the game more diverse.

Totally ruined it. I get bored after 10 mins highlights of the finals, forget watching an entire game of regular season. Intensity is not there either. I go back watching MJ and Kobe, way more fun and more strategic way to play basketball. Today's game remind me of friendly I used to play with other kids after training, when the manager had gone home and could not see the sh*t we were pulling.

Haven't watched an entire NBA game in over 15 years. The problem isn't so much the 3 point attempts. That will eventually balance itself out. The problem is that there's no defense anymore, which artificially pads the stats and makes people think today's players are great. Not a one of them would have survived a week playing back in the day when they had to face real defenses. Anybody looks like a great player if they are on the Globetrotters playing exhibition games against non-existent defense, and that's what the NBA has turned into. It's one reason why the Jordan vs. LeBron debate is such a joke. If LeBron had played his career in the same era as Jordan, he'd probably be ranked somewhere around 50th best player of all time if he even survived. Pistons would have obliterated him.

@iwantmyutube9040

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Not too many players in today's NBA would be able to play or survive in the 80's and 90's.

@oldebookandoddshop1510

2 жыл бұрын

LeBron would just play differently he if played in that era. He's just adapting to the rules he plays in.

@EE-ie9gm

2 жыл бұрын

3 point attempts is what ruined the game

The era of the nba before is most exciting than today

Teams jacking up threes all game long does get really boring. I miss the midrange game, and the post-up game too. Let bigs be bigs. 👍 But things won’t change until/unless the league moves the 3-pt line out some, especially in the corners (which will require widening the court).

I was watching the Celtics and Nets last night and I had to turn the TV by mid-2nd quarter. All they were doing was shooting 3s. It was like go down the court and shoot a 3....other team go down the court and shoot a 3....repeat over and over and over.

im just waiting for when an unstoppable post player appears and the league just try to copy them lol.

@Charlie-eq3dj

2 жыл бұрын

Ahem, Giannis..

@adriannsantos

2 жыл бұрын

Unstoppable players in the paint are generational talents. You don't see them often. If you do, their aggressiveness won't last more than a decade. Injuries will kill them. Once their paint aggressiveness decline, they'll start learning or resorting to shoot midrange.

@soloistdeve

2 жыл бұрын

@@adriannsantos How can an unstoppable post player suffer injuries in these safe basketball courts. You can't touch anybody anymore.

Double d going back to his old self. Great work man!

I'll be real. I think Barkley seriously hit the nail right on the fuckin' head.

The metrics which show the superiority of the 3 over the 2 may work over the course of the regular season, but not necessarily in the playoffs. In a 7 game series we are dealing with a compressed 4 to 7 game "mini-season", where one or two 3pt. 'cold streaks' (far more common when you are taking lower percentage shots) can end your season. Relying on 3s in the post-season is a losing strategy.

@Cp-yx4ci

8 ай бұрын

Well said buddy, really well said. It just doesn't work so well during the playoffs. A high volume of 3-point shooting is just a fraud strategy, nothing more.

love to see you incorporating lockerroom into the videos hopefully you get the desktop version soon

First point. Charles Barkley is always refreshingly unbashedly right. Second I like how they objectivity analyzed the current style of play in the NBA. I completely concur with both points.

@tc699

2 жыл бұрын

I, too, concur withe the major points. But I dispute the idea presented in this video that this is the most talented group of players the NBA has ever had. The game is supposed to work in two directions: offense & defense. There is virtually no defensive talent on display worth noting. That is partly a function of the rules but it is also a function of sheer defensive laziness, which has become an endemic characteristic of the league.

@DoctorHver

2 жыл бұрын

@@tc699 Image Bill Russell in todays era.

@hijisfriend9030

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoctorHver Wilt, Bill Russel, Sidney Moncrief, Michael Jordan. Yeah, they will clamps and force current player to shoot 25% from 3 and 35% from mid range

@josephsalmonte4995

2 жыл бұрын

Unbashedly?

I’m fine with the shooting. Some parking lot threes with 20 seconds left on the shot clock are pretty frustrating. But what bothers me the most is the ridiculous fouls. You can’t hand check anymore, but even when a defender just has his arm out, all the shooter has to do is flail into the defenders arm and it draws a shooting foul. That seriously should be an offensive foul. The shooter is initiating the contact. I know its a different point from 3ball basketball. But when we are already seeing the best shooting from players we’ve ever seen, defenders can’t even defend in today’s game. That’s what ruining the game.

Great video

This is the most skilled collection of talent at the NBA has ever seen?? Apparently my man you weren't alive in the '80s and '90s

The guy talking about 2015 is right, but we would have won in 2016 if not for injuries. (and imo some very questionable refing)

@alextitchener3528

3 жыл бұрын

Refereeing ruins the game of basketball sometimes. I'm a rugby fan too as I'm from the UK and I watched the England Wales match last weekend and the refereeing was disgraceful. I'm sure you don't know a thing about how rugby works but you can't drop or lose control of the ball forwards and a Welsh player knocked it forward and then his teammate regathered it which is a knock on but the referee awarded the try which is like a touchdown in football. There was another welsh try where the referee told the England captain to talk to his team in a huddle and they were in the huddle when the Welsh did a cross field kick and scored a try. The referee HAS to give the players time to set their defense but he didn't and in rugby you can't argue with the referee at all and the try was awarded. Wales went on to win due to two very controversial tries and a few penalties that shouldn't have been given and without the points they got from those controversial incidents they would have lost. It was an important match that the worse side won due to very poor and biased Refereeing. Sorry if that explanation was just waffle to you but what I'm saying is that all sports are being ruined by poor Refereeing in big games at the moment and something needs to be done to fix it.

@DeyCallmeBadnuzBytch

3 жыл бұрын

You was on the team? WE wtf IDOLATRY IS A SIN

@niggatron4072

3 жыл бұрын

People r attached to their team, what's the problem?

@davidstewart799

2 жыл бұрын

If Love and Kyrie was not hurt for the 2015 finals you don't win that year. Funny how Warrior fans cry about 2016 but don't want to hear about the big break they got in 2015. Warriors knew that they wasn't better than the Cavs in 2015 and 2016 so the had to cry and beg Durant to come and save them

@sportsbluff4501

2 жыл бұрын

2016 was US election NBA need LBJ to campaign for Hillary which he did...he also won 2020 where he campaigned for biden

The NBA’s ratings speak volumes

Every team learned the wrong lesson from Golden State's dynasty. While it proved the 3 pointer is indeed a more valuable shot, the thing gm's and coaches should've taken away from it is that a team that plays to its own strengths will always be better than a team that is trying to emulate someone else.

3 ptrs aren't ruining basketball. But analytics and the soft ass NBA rules that adam silver has enforced has ruined basketball

@alextitchener3528

3 жыл бұрын

Yea the rules are the worst thing. And the ref bias is getting so bad now too. I swear curry gets his landing space taken away from him all the time and defenders don't allow him to keep his follow through and he never gets the call whereas harden can get his beard brushed by someone's finger while shooting and it's a foul and trae young can literally jump 45 degrees forward and travel a metre forwards through the air before he actually hits a body and the chuck the ball in the air and get a foul

@blahtime99

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, you said analytics are ruining basketball. So if something is analyzed and you find out that it is better to do something in a certain way, you will still be against it? We might as well make wheels in a square shape because analytics say that round wheels are the most efficient.

@colewrld901

3 жыл бұрын

@@blahtime99 I don't think u get it. Analytics has a place in basketball, but the NBA over the last 6 years has made the league nothing but analytics, teams jack dumbass 3s all game ling, while eliminating the use of the midrange game, players would rather take step back 3s because analytics says so, rather then take wide open midrange or be smart and take the shots that are being given to them by the defense. It's sloppy, ugly basketball, which is why the majority of nba fans today don't even watch live games, they just watch highlights, cause the game is to ugly and boring to watch live. Hell even talking basketball has become lame because of all u analytics nerds who only know how to argue with advanced metrics 😂

@blahtime99

3 жыл бұрын

@@colewrld901 Wow...you really like to be hyperbolic. Go look the word up.

@colewrld901

3 жыл бұрын

@@blahtime99 blah blah blah. Counter my argument

Too many different suggestions.. I think the best solution is to just bring it back to the way basketball was originally designed and played and that is to remove the 3 point line. Shoot anywhere and only get 2 points. Players will still be appreciated for their long range shooting abilities but at the same time it will reduce the amount of long range shots being taken. The sport will create a balance again for the big and small players if both can only get 2 points.

@BrotherK-ex2co

2 жыл бұрын

That will increase the number of layups and dunks.

@RicardoAGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrotherK-ex2co How would that increase dunks and layups? If three's are only worth two, they won't shoot from distance as much so the defenses won't be as spread out. People get to the rim more easily now because they have more room to operate

@BrotherK-ex2co

2 жыл бұрын

@@RicardoAGuitar there is less reason To shoot from further out.the closer you get to the basket, the higher percentage shot.

@RicardoAGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrotherK-ex2co Right...but there will be more defenders inside of 10-15 feet. If you meant there will be more ATTEMPTS at dunks and layups, I agree

@danielanyieeng9986

2 жыл бұрын

I'm all for that. Scratch off that 3 points rule. It only destroys basketball.

I wonder how the great passing teams of the pre-3 point shot NBA, such as Red Auerbach's Celtics teams, and the late 1960s - early 1970s New York Knickerbockers would do in the NBA now if they played their same "old style" of interior passing, cutting to the basket, hitting the open man, and taking high percentage shots - - - and hitting the boards for offensive rebounds. In 1993 my high school had an alumni varsity basketball game, with varsity players from the 1960s and 1970s against varsity players from the 1980s and 1990s. At one point in the game, at age 45, I was the youngest player on the court for the 1960s-70s team. We had been coached to play basketball the "old" way. The 80s-90s team had been coached in the 3-point way. When we (the "old" were on defense, we found that defending "the perimeter" was far easier than the defense we had to play two or three decades earlier. On defense, the 80s-90s team was unable to defend against interior passing and 8 foot to 12 foot shots. The "old" way won. With that in mind, the question isn't "How many 3-point shots would Rick Barry, or Tommy Heinsohn, or George Yardley, or Jack Twyman, or Oscar Robertson make now, but would the players now be able to stop their "old" style of play?

Game is so boring now, no skill set except 3 point shots, when you pass up a guaranteed lay up for a 3 outside is stupid

Just bring back the hand check and adjust the 3pt line back again....

Thank you! I'm so tired of this sh*t.

Watching the GSW in 2015, I thought it was amazing to watch, but there was no way they'd keep winning with that strategy. I was wrong, but I think I would've been right if they were any other team in history.

yeah, a 7'+ european big taking 3s for the mavericks in the 2000s would've been unheard of!

Double d is back and better than ever 💪🏾

my thoughts are on this that there is a specific situation for 3 pointer , like clutch , boll rotation for better look to the rim , or when you are in zone on that movement and traditional catch and shoot . thats it

I’d pay to watch today’s NBA experimenting a game or a few without the three point line (pre 1980s) and see if the players get exposed to their weaknesses (fundamentals, low post games, etc). The players that have played in the 1980s, 90s, and even the early part of 2000s were coached by those who experienced the game (pro or not) without the 3s.

@HT-sm9dm

8 ай бұрын

Actually all you’d need to do is start calling the rules by the old ways again, especially those pertaining to ball handling. It’s so much easier to get a good shot off when you can take 3-4 steps, shuffle your feet and “cradle” aka carry the ball whenever you please. Start calling the rules the old way and fundamentals come back.

It’s fun to see your team hit a three but when the game is running back and forth between the three point lines and hacking it up it’s really really boring.

The 3pt era isn’t ruining basketball, people trying to imitate the pre Kd warriors are plus foul baiting

To me, Steve Kerr is the biggest reason why the 3 point era came way faster than it probably would've. Steph was the mascot, but Kerr was the mastermind. And yeah, the people who are saying that it's ruining basketball do have a legitimate reason to think so. There definitely needs to be a better balance. Also who else is looking forward to GS vs POR?

@randyho8315

2 жыл бұрын

Mark Jackson built that team but got replaced before it got to fruition… just FYI

The examples you gave (4:00 to 5:00) are the kind of things I hate the most about the NBA. So many easy 2 end up as missed 3! Games, even series and championships are lost at the 3 point line. The Bucks clearly demonstrate that you have to play your way, and make the most of your players abilities. I'm a Mavs fan, but Kristaps playing on the perimeters and shooting 3's makes no sense. Great video.

Kobe referred to 3-ball offense as 'penetrate and pitch' He referred to the penetrator pitching out, but that's only part of 3-ball b-ball 90s b-ball could be 'thru the big guy' 3-ball allows a lot more setup options, pitch IN and pitch OUT options, and scoring options However, 3-ball does seem a lot more chaotic -- because all those options are based on vastly more player spacing, and player and ball movement. 3-ball's main weakness is that 3-ball shooting is HARD.

I wish more people would see this video Please show my man some love because this takes are at the top of the yt community. One of just a few people that can change my perspective on the nba in a few minutes More content like this and he'll blow up in a month or two

It’s getting almost painful to watch the players destroying the game between all the dribbling and three pointers.

Totally agree with Sir Charles. Dont want to see so much of anything. I want a mix of offense, the increase in skill and advancement of the game would still be there as it did in the past. But it will be a more holistic improvement while still showing specialists.

@classicdufferin8739

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

I think that if KZread had existed by the times of Wilt Chamberlain, a very similar video would have been made. We humans tend to optimize to near perfection everything we do. The 3 point era is the players doing a speedrun of basketball