It’s so very complicated indeed. But we’re talking about one of the oldest nations in the world ( unlike US) I’m actually very impressed by China’s economic growth and innovation in such short time. I think it’s something West wasn’t expecting and ready to face. Therefore they can’t come up with any better idea other than military intervention to stop China from becoming World’s Super Power . That makes Taiwan very important for them not that they care how much freedom Taiwanese has . I’m sure Chinese government smart enough to realize that bringing US/NATO right on their door step will cause deep disruption and serious security issues in their country (especially after watching Russia/Ukraine conflict) Hopefully US and allies will understand how dangerous what they’re trying to do.

@andrenogueira5058

Жыл бұрын

"not that they care how much freedom Taiwanese has" Wrong. Westerners have freedom high up in their value system. Taiwanese freedom is Western freedom. In fact, China has been abusing for far too long of the world's complacency. It invaded Tibet, the South China sea (Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines). It further broke its own promise to ensure Hong Kong freedom. It has been spreading corruption throughout the world and undermining free societies. So, the Chinese regime will not take Taiwanese freedom away, no matter what. As Den Xiaoping so wisely said: when and if China becomes an imperialist state, then the whole world - along with the Chinese people themselves - should expose it, opposite and defeat it. Prophetic words...

@maolo76

Жыл бұрын

The Chinese dont fear the Europe or the US anymore. Back then china had poor military. But today is a different story.

@nuera775

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, US is under illusion and controlled by military industrial complex and other interest groups.

@andrenogueira5058

Жыл бұрын

@@nuera775 HAHAHAHAHA!!! China, on the other hand, is a pure society, where no interests exist other than those of the people. Right? The CCP is a group of beautiful virgins. The ones caught in Macau playing black-jack and French roulette with state money. Or rapping tennis players. Or trading human organs from Falun Gong martyrs. The rotten corrupt elite thriving on someone else's merits, effort and wealth. Eighty million CCP corrupt thugs parasite 1.3 billion Chinese, exerting arbitrary power as little dictators.

@Shenzhou.

Жыл бұрын

The country that cares the most about Taiwan island is mainland China, certainly not the U.S. The separatists in Taiwan think America will defend them, while the U.S want's to fight China to the last Taiwanese.

basically imagine US have another civil war and the confederates lost civil war and flee to hawaii and want to declear independence

@PhiloSurfer

Жыл бұрын

And want to be the ruler of the whole of continental USA.

Just imagine if China intervened the civil war in the US and encouraged Hawaii to break free from the US. Actually, Hawaii became the territory of the US in the 20th century and a state in 1959 so it's pretty new. No wonder why the culture in Hawaii (Polynesians) is so different than the mainland in US (imperial cowboys/yankees) when I went there this summer. I think the failure of culture assimilation could be the determining factor that Hawaii should be independent from the US.🤣

@robertburke1486

Жыл бұрын

I have a good friend in China, educated in the U.S., who sobs in despair with the thought that she never get out and will die in China. It is the most depressing, dystopian society in the world.

@sggr7708

Жыл бұрын

SHUT UP !

@user-bw1im1pu6c

Жыл бұрын

@@robertburke1486 恨国党，This is what we call this kind of people in China. For a long time, there have been people in China who preach that the western system is the most perfect system. Everyone should know that everything in the world has both good and bad sides. The problem is that these people who preach the western system in China never say the bad side of the western system. There are also many people like your friends in China. Many of them have become more patriotic after going abroad because they have seen both sides of the democratic system. Of course, there will be many people like your friends who hate their motherland. By the way, what kind of scum will betray their race? They hate their own country and culture and even hope to destroy their own motherland. There are many such scum in the United States, which is almost the gathering point of scum in the world.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear, but I have a very different experience.

@gentlemana1204

Жыл бұрын

@@robertburke1486 It's a known fact Chinese can immigrate easily, if this "friend" do exist, she can leave China.You are a liar.

You forgot to mention Chiang Kai Shek took all China had left with him when he escaped to Taiwan, Pascal, he took 115 tons of gold which he used to develop Taiwan. He took millions of centuries old artefacts and treasures with him. Now, is Taiwan part of China or what?

@alexandergroom

Жыл бұрын

Good job he took them, otherwise they would have been melted down during the Great Leap Forward, or destroyed during the cultural revolution.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

There are many things I indeed could have added, and that is surely one of them.

@tungli2827

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandergroom Is that a good thing or bad thing?

@alexandergroom

Жыл бұрын

@@tungli2827 if you'd visited the National Palace Museum you'd know.

@Shenzhou.

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandergroom What you've just described is a hypothetical scenario and doesn't necessary mean it would happen during the Great Leap Forward or Cultural Revolution. Also, the _National Museum of China_ in Beijing is a far more visited museum (the world's 2nd most visited museum in fact) then compared to the _National Palace Museum_ in Taipei.

*YOU EITHER FORGOT OR INTENTIONALLY LEFT OUT ONE IMPORTANT FACT:* - The fact that the 1% of Chinese people in Taiwan were even allowed to represent the whole 100% of China at one point was because during the Chinese civil war, the Americans supported the group that lost and fled to Taiwan and annexed it. - And yet, America continues to meddle with China's domestic matters regarding taiwan to this very day and cause ambiguity.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Good point

@bjrnhjortshjandersen1286

Жыл бұрын

You could argue that the CCP is also just a minority in China..maybe 7% and not all have anything to say, they are just members. So how big is the group that rules the PRC?

@user-xm1so5qp5x

Жыл бұрын

@@PascalCoppens You explained the problems in Chinese mainland and Taiwan Province, China objectively and comprehensively. Thank you for all this.

@C.K.Wang.

Жыл бұрын

Taiwan is an independent country. Not a single second has been ruled by the Chinese government

@jarvanwan454

Жыл бұрын

@@C.K.Wang. Do you know what mean about RePublic of China？read some book

Thanks very much for making things clear about Taiwan. From historical perspective, Taiwan is more Chinese than Hawaii is American. But nobody talk about that. The main stream media is really really powerful in shaping people's opinion.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

I guess people in Hawaii have not been as vocal to separate.

@noelborbon6155

Жыл бұрын

Hawaiian culture is Polynesian like their Tahitian siblings which are under French rule.

@noelborbon6155

Жыл бұрын

@@PascalCoppens Under surveillance by the CIA

Chiang kai Shek....not chek On another note: back when KMT retreated from the mainland, they retreated to an island..... question can be asked is, why not retreat to korea, or central asia or japan or vietnam? Quite simple because taiwan is a part of china and its a good idea to retreat to an area you actually rule rather than another country, where it will be called an invasion. So, KMT did not invade another country during their retreat from the mainland thus taiwan is ipso facto, part of china.

@benjamintaine4476

Жыл бұрын

Make complete sense

@Shenzhou.

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. If the DPP separatists want to declare independence from the mainland, they should all vacate the Chinese territory of Taiwan, and find some other plot of land elsewhere to claim for themselves, because the island belongs to China.

@mymayday6822

Жыл бұрын

Totally Agree.

@tweedy4sg

Жыл бұрын

Precisely, and it's nothing new. He's just following the example of Koxinga - seek refuge there and build up a military big & strong enough to retake China.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

This is my mistake indeed. Its because in Dutch (my native tongue) it is pronounced as such. Just habit.

China = Chinese mainland in the context when mentioning Taiwan, because China and Taiwan is exactly what the PRC opposes. No 2 China's, or 1 China and 1 Taiwan, but One China.

Taiwan is also very strategically located, it is where sea trade from Japan and Korea have to go though. It is also perfect as thorn for containing China. Taiwan has been used as air base to attack China by the Japanese during WWII. It could be turned into Cuban Crisis 2.0 if US set up base and put nukes there. Thus poses a real security risk as well. Things weren't always quiet, there were tension and skirmishes in the straight. Even as late as 1996 Taiwan sent spy plane into China.

@tweedy4sg

Жыл бұрын

Yup, MacArthur has openly admit to this and even called it US's "unsinkable aircraft carrier". LOL

@gigishaw3318

Жыл бұрын

Don’t make it wrong. Yes, Taiwan government sent spy airplanes U2 to mainland China but it’s the US government behind the scenes, just because US didn’t want to risk U2 being shot down and lost the pilots. Collected data was sent back to US and Taiwan had no access right to it. Just like a gun for hire scenarios.

@fashionare2773

Жыл бұрын

You won't believe that China already got ability to defeat inteference forces near China's coast line. China is waiting for them triggering the opportunity, then the war is for justice. US is too arrogant to see this.

@dannylam1687

Жыл бұрын

When I was a kid, I think Taiwan is a part of the USA, in the last 70 years, the Island Chiefs have asked A U.S permission to do every project, every time 😂😂😂

@chriswong9158

Жыл бұрын

China will have the Taiwan islands, but it does not need the 23 millions plus to deter U.S.A. from China shores.

Pascal, thank you for always providing facts and historical context instead of giving an oversimplified answer like most western medias and youtubers do.

@joeybwalsh

Жыл бұрын

💯 so hard to find content this thorough

@andrenogueira5058

Жыл бұрын

Funny enough, our Pascal omits the most essential angle: Taiwanese do not want to be ruled by the barbaric totalitarian CCP. In fact, CCP is the most serious obstacle to any unification of Taiwan and mainland China. Pascal is very cautious not to touch sensitive issues to the Chinese regime... I wonder why.

@Shenzhou.

Жыл бұрын

@@andrenogueira5058 Taiwan had been under authoritarian single-party KMT rule for *more than half its life.* For decades the KMT ruled Taiwan with iron fist and Chiang kai-shek was a dictator who jailed and executed dissidents and political rivals (whether real or perceived) in a period known as _White Terror_ (白色恐怖) and imposed martial law on Taiwan for more than *38 years,* which was qualified as "the longest imposition of martial law by a regime anywhere in the world" at that time. But under authoritarian single-party KMT rule, Taiwan actually flourished and prospered, in what's known as the _Taiwan Miracle_ (台湾奇迹). Between 1952 - 1982, Taiwan's economic growth was on average 8.7%, and between 1983 - 1986 at 6.9%. Taiwan GDP grew by 360% between 1965 - 1986. The percentage of global exports was over 2% in 1986, over other recently industrialized countries, and the global industrial production output grew a further 680% between 1965 - 1986. And its all been achieved under KMT leadership. Only in the late 1990s, when democracy was introduced (because USA threatened to cut off weapons sales to Taiwan) did Taiwan's economic growth became more modest. Since then, Taiwan's economy has stagnated, wages are stagnant, cost of living is rising, unemployment is rising and Taiwan graduates are increasingly seeking jobs abroad, such as in Singapore or mainland China.

@Fr.VeniceLAI

Жыл бұрын

The West and US may have finally realized how vitial Taiwan has become to maintain some semblances of world peace and stable security order, if Taiwan is taken-over, by CPC-China, it is likely to plunge the entire World into disorder, as it would enable CPC-China to become the World Hegemon, which the West & U.S. would challenge aggressively. See my post on this video..why no escape for ROC-Taiwan...the Red Dragon is coming.

@Coumei2009

Жыл бұрын

@@andrenogueira5058Not funny and very understandable. rebellions always want their own power, but that is not the reason that Taiwan is not part of China or Taiwanese are not Chinese.

As a Chinese, I should say, the Taiwan issue is partially cultural (historical) and partially geopolitical. The historical reason is as what you explained. The loss of Taiwan marked the key event in China's "hundred-year humiliation", so China must get Taiwan back in order to claim a rejuvenation. Plus, the people living in Taiwan nowadays are ethnically Chinese, i.e., they are not the ancient local Taiwanese anyway. The geopolitical reason is that Taiwan's location is too important for China. With the growing China-US tension, US will always want to push for a war between China-mainland and Taiwan. Just look at the Ukraine example. Russia abandoned communism, Ukraine became independent, and even elected a pro-Russia president at a time. Yet, due to Nato expansion, they still have to go to war eventually. So whether Taiwan should be allowed to go independent or not, is really not that important. If China cannot firmly control Taiwan, cross-strait war will break out eventually anyway. Furthermore, I think with China's current military power, getting Taiwan forcefully is just a matter of "cost". China can win the war at Taiwan even with joint military intervention from US+Japan+Australia+whoever else. From any other country's perspective, it is hopeless (and quite stupid) to fight a war this close to China-mainland.

@pooyasafaei2538

Жыл бұрын

The west understands no language but the one common btw all mortals. If they stand against ur way to great china, stand on their corpse. The west is now on its weakest form and it gets worse for them the more china gains power economically and militarily. They will, at one point, seek the option that waging war would be more cost effective than winning the economy war with china, and china must be ready to to wreck havoc by that moment.

@zimablue1880

Жыл бұрын

The fact is that the indigenous Taiwanese people were hill tribes and confined to the hilly regions of the west. There were no natives living in the eastern coast or the eastern plains. When Chinese people first started migrating to the island in the early 11-12th century, the eastern regions were vrgin forest territories. They cut down forests and started civilization in that region. When the Dutch colonised the entire island enslving both Chinese and the native Taiwanese people, the Chinese and the natives united together to defeat the invaders. Later the natives willingly became a part of the Chinese empire. This is totally opposite to the colonisation of Americas which was done thru systemic genocides of the native tribes.

@huoyeh4319

Жыл бұрын

BRAVO !!!!!! another scholar has spoken.

@huoyeh4319

Жыл бұрын

@@zimablue1880 very true, indeed.

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

Why if you are ethnically Chinese does the CCP have the right to rule you. The CCP can dictate someones ethnicity? sounds a lot like the Nuremberg race laws. If an attack on Taiwan is tried America and allies will get involved. There bigger issues here. While Taiwan & China & Japan will have local advantages all superpower wars turn into world wars on the high seas. While Taiwan can easily be blockaded then can China's coastal cities. 70% of China's oil comes from the Gulf and most of those cities food is imported from the sea. It is no sure thing China would win. The cost to China will be very high in such a risky gamble

The point that both parties agreed that Taiwan is chinese is the real kicker. All parties agreed whos the owner and now, out of own global intrests the US is messing with inner politics of a foreign country.

@alexandergroom

Жыл бұрын

Apart from the millions of people in Taiwan that do not want to be part of the PRC. They must be very ungrateful, selfish, and foolish people.

@1stmaterayleigh500

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandergroom yes they are ungrateful, because they are part of China and see themself as such and claimed also to be the real goverment of whole china. But they are only 1% of the population of all china. so in democratic terms they must follow the rules as all others who claim such things. Thats a fact the UN pressing as well. You logic is not based on International Law. A region cannot declare their indipendence on their own as they like. NorternIreland, Basquenland,Scotland or Bavaria would all be indipendent when u asked them. But that not how it works.

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

@@1stmaterayleigh500 They wouldn't all be independent if you asked them. The Scottish didn't. I guess Korea, Japan & Australia are only a small part of greater China and therefore have no right what the majority of Chinese decide?

@1stmaterayleigh500

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-P what in all world has Australia, Korea and Japan to do with it? Nothing! And to be more precise about the regions with seperatist movements that i listed above. Sure not all inhabitants of a region are for Pro Seperatism but a reconizeble part of the people and thats the point i wanted to make

@Shenzhou.

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-P You said: _"I guess Korea, Japan & Australia are only a small part of greater China and therefore have no right what the majority of Chinese decide?"_ Where did you get this concept that Korea, Japan & Australia are a part of greater China? Also, both Koreas, Japan and Australia all recognize the One China policy that Taiwan is part of China.

Great explanation of the China-Taiwan history, very clear to understand the relationship and the reason why both US and Japan politicians are trying very hard to make use of Taiwan to contain China and to prevent Taiwan to be reunited with mainland China.

@alfredyap14

Жыл бұрын

The US is short term, Japan is long term…

@C.K.Wang.

Жыл бұрын

Taiwan is an independent country. Not a single second has been ruled by the Chinese government

@alfredyap14

Жыл бұрын

@@C.K.Wang. 王先生，你是华人吗？王氏是否从中国大陆生枝发芽？中国从来都不是以党排皇朝区分。那是西方的政治理念。台湾岛不管什么朝代时间都是中国的。中国不是单单一个国家的概念而是天下理念。别在执迷不悟啦！台湾没有了大陆就是个孤立无助的小岛。连日本人自己都知道他要做中国人（而发动二战），怎么在台湾的华人不懂这道理呢？ 党和党的竞争不是国家分裂的原因。 Mr Wang, you mixed up party fights with territory integrity and China as a nation. Even though the CPC has never ruled island of Taiwan, it is recognised as the sole sovereign of all Chinese territories which Taiwan under Republic of China ROC is a part. In the island of Taiwan, The republic of China constitution still stands. Hence Taiwan is part of China. ROC includes Mongolia … so regardless of ROC or PRC, both are China ie Chinese territories. The right thing for DPP to do is to claim the entire China as her own. That would have been more acceptable. Professor Martin Jacques has found China to be a civilisational state and not a country per se. So being part of this civilisation is something you as a Chinese 华人 ought to be proud of.

@MrSupersunbeam

Жыл бұрын

@@C.K.Wang. Wrong, Taiwan was ruled by the Republic of China, which still claims one China included Taiwan.

@SMERSH_BERSH

Жыл бұрын

Does Taiwan want to be reunited?

Timeline: 1662 The island of Taiwan is a part of China. 05:55 1776 The official beginning of America. 1867 The creation of the Dominion of Canada. 1901 The Commonwealth of Australia as we know it today. 1788 maybe. One of the above was legit centuries+ before the others.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

never thought of it that way

@alexandergroom

Жыл бұрын

Those dates are quite irrelevant. Taiwan is a fully functioning independent country, moreover the people of Taiwan do not want to be part of the People's Republic of China. Quite honestly there are 600 million people in China living in poverty, poverty alleviation should be the focus of the PRC, not trying to drag Taiwan down to the PRC's level.

@danielderose9378

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandergroom My Chinese friend told me that Taiwan looted over one trillion dollars of gold, silver, treasures... from mainland China. Perhaps they should return it to China before discussing independence, then that poor 600 million would become rich.

@cungcung5042

Жыл бұрын

@@danielderose9378 Not only that, Taiwanese owe the freedom they enjoy now (and thought it as being independent) to all Chinese people who fought hard and sacrificed their soul and body to resist Japanese in the Second Sino-Japanese War. Millions of deaths of Chinese civillian and soldiers, their blood and sweat, are the very reason why they are not calling Japanese Emperor as their master today.

@jlvv_1

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandergroom Huh..Are you okay.. Poverty alleviation has been China main focus since beginning. Why do you think china could Progress super fast with burden 1.4 Billion citizens if its not bcs china has been successful in lifting 800 million its citizen out of extreme poverty in such a short time (40-50 yrs.. Unprecendented in human history). And the anti-poverty program Is Still going on until now.. So you DON'T have to worry about that. You might want to place your worry to other developing nations such as india.. or even US since their bottom 50% has not been achieving any living standards improvement these past 30 years. Also you can't generalize "people of taiwan" bcs there are also many taiwanese who wants reunification with the motherland..

50 years of Japanese colonial rule as a result of the Treaty of Shimonoseki after the brutal first Sino-Japanese War that happened between 1894 and 1895. But first, imperial Japan did forcefully annexed the Ryukyu/Luchu/Liuqiu (including Okinawa) in the 1870s where it dethroned the ruling leaders and stripped off its status as a sovereign East Asian country.

@rcbrascan

Жыл бұрын

Japan did more than annexed those islands, it committed genocide on the Islands' population to prevent any rebellion. Japan also committed genocide on the Taiwanese indigenous people when took over Taiwan because the indigenous people supported China instead of Japan. You only have to see the Rape of Nanking to see what Japan is capable of during that period.

@chriswong9158

Жыл бұрын

It is time that Japan return the Okinawa island to their native.

Pascal, your videos are usually well researched, but I think you are getting confused by terminology. The UN recognises the PRC as the legitimate and sole government of China. The 13 (or so) countries that do not recognise the PRC, recognise the ROC, which is currently based in Taiwan. No country recognises a country called "Taiwan". Both the PRC and ROC define China as the mainland PLUS the island of Taiwan. The ROC also actually claims Mongolia, but that's a separate discussion. What the "Taiwanese independence" supporters are calling for is an independent country called Taiwan - that only encompasses the island of Taiwan (and a few neighboring islands). Oddly, the current president of the ROC (Tsai Ing Wen) is from the DPP, which is the political party that ran on a platform of "Taiwanese independence". You seem to confuse these facts. For example, you said that "the Taiwanese consider 1912 the founding of Taiwan". The Xinhai Revolution of 1911, led by Sun Yat-sen, overthrew the Qing Dynasty - and established the ROC. I'm not sure if the DPP supporters consider this their independence day. I am sure, however, that those who support the ROC see this as the day they were established. Regardless, the Xinhai Revolution did NOT establish any country called "Taiwan".

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your clarifications. I agree, I may have not used the exact terminology at moments during my speech, but I assume people understand what I meant. Most people outside China understand the word Taiwan, but not ROC,...so I overused Taiwan at times instead of calling it a Taiwanese Island. When I talk about the Taiwanese, I do mean the majority of Taiwanese who support DPP indeed.

@cpc9563

Жыл бұрын

@@PascalCoppens Before 2000 (ie while the KMT was in power), using the term "Taiwanese" as shorthand to refer to the "non-PRC" element would be understandable. The confusion now is that the "Taiwanese" have basically split into two camps - ROC supporters, and "Republic of Taiwan" supporters. I would even say that it's serious enough to raise question marks about how the Taiwanese military would react if Tsai Ing Wen, for example, declared "independence". A large amount of Taiwan's officer corps are descendents of those who followed Chiang Kai Shek from the Mainland in 1949. They therefore also believe in "one China", and would not necessarily support a "Republic of Taiwan" - at least not fight for it.

@sickg6417

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, terminology matters on taiwan issue it's not taiwanese that moved to taiwan after they lost civil war back in 1949, but it was chinese military and government personale of ROC that retreated to taiwan island and they didn't setup the government in taiwan upon retreating, but taiwan provincial government and municipal governor of ROC was already existed in taiwan, it was that ROC president took over the governor role automatically upon retreating

@sickg6417

Жыл бұрын

one more funny thing is, chinese people migrated abroad during the war time were labeled ROC citizen status and ROC passport later, after all, nation state and passport thingy is rather quite a modern concept or western concept one should say as a civilization state, china didn't care much about such thing before and later on, as countries around world started to cut ties with ROC and established foreign relation with PRC, chinese people in those countries were labeled as taiwanese although they never set feet in taiwan before and were originally from all part of mainland china

@sickg6417

Жыл бұрын

term china is more like term america, PRC as USA PRC represents china while USA represents america until they won't someday in future term taiwanese is more like newyorker

Pascal, thank you for the informative overview on history of Taiwan. 👏👏👏

The Complication of the Taiwan Issues. After defeat in the Chinese Civil War at the hands of the Communist Party of China in 1949, the Kuomingtang Party's Nationalist Government of China, fled to the island Province of Taiwan, (at that time was one of the province of China). Since 1949 until to the present day, the Chinese Civil War was never officially declared ended or stop between the Nationalist Party and the CPC Party. In Beijing on October 1, 1949, Mao Tse-tung's Communist Party of China proclaimed the establishment of the Peoples Republic China. This was the birth of a sovereign state that effectively controlled the territory and people of the Chinese mainland, while the Kuomintang Party led Nationalist Party who have fled to Taiwan and have settled on Taiwan, to govern the Province of Taiwan. This is how it comes about the Province of Taiwan has been ruled separately from mainland China since the end of the Chinese Civil War in 1949, when the defeated Kuomintang Party retreated to Taiwan to create a self-governing entity under the name Republic Of China. The Structure of the Constitution for China reflected the ideas of Dr. Sun Yat Sen aspiration, the "Father of the Nation" in the Republic of China (Taiwan), and the "Forerunner of the Revolution" in the People's Republic of China, WILL SOON COMES INTO REALITY When the Nationalist leader Dr. Chiang Kai Shek (who lost the Chinese Civil War, fled to Province of Taiwan) during his governed the Province of Taiwan, he never allows anyone to amend or do changes the existing 1947 Republic of China (ROC) Constitution, Article 4 which states: “The territory of the Republic of China according to its existing national boundaries shall not be altered except by resolution of the National Assembly.” The mention of “existing” boundaries the Chinese term is guyou [固有], (this is the official translation, from the Presidential Office) , which would be better translated as “inherent”. The practical impact of this ruling in Article 4 with this term guyou [固有] ( “inherent/existing national boundaries.)” is that it is legally impossible to “violate” Article 4. The National Assembly had the legal right but not the legitimacy to revise the Constitution, because the Assembly did not represent public opinion which include the National Assembly, Legislative, or Control Branch members on the mainland that made up the very basis of the Constitution. The official view of the KMT (Kuomingtang Party) was that the ROC Constitution remained valid in Mainland China. While the Constitution stipulated that "the territory of the Republic of China according to its existing national boundaries shall not be altered except by resolution of the National Assembly," the article did not delineate these national boundaries. The Constitution, however, specified such provisions relating to Tibet and Mongolia with respect to the election of representatives to the National Assembly, Legislature, the Control Branch, and even provisions on guaranteeing regional autonomy. The Province of Taiwan, though, was barely equivalent in size to the mainland's smallest province. It was impossible to elect the National Assembly, Legislative, or Control Branch members on the mainland that made up the very basis of the Constitution. All Legislative Members in mainland were kept on without re-election, becoming the `10,000-year legislators`, and in a single autonomous region, the area of jurisdiction for both the Province of Taiwan and the Central Government overlapped. As the basis of governance of Taiwan, the ROC Constitution wasn't able to conform to the general requirements to rule Taiwan, and so rule was to follow the spirit and procedures of the Constitution as closely as possible. This doctrine was designed to keep the continuity of the existing legal system. The rule of Taiwan was conducted within a legal system composed of the Temporary Provisions, martial law and other unconstitutional measures. The legal system was founded on the very discretionary basis: the ROC Constitution was applied in areas deemed applicable and suspended where the Constitution was inconvenient. With respect to whether the original constitution should be revised or simply new articles added to it. Those scholars who favored the addition of articles argued that the original constitution did not need to be revised since any alterations would be only temporary until the re-unification of China. Chiang Kai-shek was insistent on returning/reunification to Mainland China someday with the original ROC Constitution intact. That is why for the status on the STATUS QUO on the province of Taiwan, remained till this day since 1949. 1) A province that remains as part of China, not a independence nation/country. 2) a self ruled province. Things started to change when that Japanese educated Lee Teng Hui becomes President of Taiwan in 1988 -2000, where he started to do amendment to the constitution From the point of view of the Lee administration, there was a considerable risk involved with either the establishment of a new constitution or the reform of the original text. With due consideration of the split in societal opinion regarding unification with or independence from China, there existed serious potential of inviting a harsh power struggle or societal discord. An expanded stand-off between the differing opinions over Taiwan's state system could have also increased tensions in cross-straight relations. Moreover, the KMT's official `one-China` policy prevented the Lee administration from discarding the Constitution that purported the fictional rule of Mainland China. The 1992 Consensus is an agreement between Taiwan's ruling government Kuomingtang Party (KMT) and mainland Chinese authorities on the existence of only “One China,” The consensus was reached in 1992 by the mainland-based Association for Relations Across the Taiwan Straits and the Taiwan-based Straits Exchange Foundation. They agreed to state that "the two sides of the Taiwan Strait both stick to the one-China principle." There are documents and written records on the process of how the 1992 Consensus was reached and its content, which can neither be denied nor be distorted by anyone or any force. The essence of the 1992 Consensus is that "both sides of the Taiwan Strait belong to one China and will work together toward national reunification." It defines the fundamental nature of cross-Strait relations, lays the political foundation for the development of ties across the Strait, and has profound implications for cross-Strait relations to improve and develop. Peace, not conflict, is a shared aspiration of compatriots on both sides of the Taiwan Strait. Any word or action that distorts or denies the 1992 Consensus is making a travesty of history. It goes against the will of each and every Chinese peoples, and is doomed to fail. The demography of Taiwan's STATUS QUO status and good Cross - strait relationship was disrupted when the social liberal Democratic Progressive Party (DPP Party) won the election in 2000. This is the start of the fall of Taiwan - China cross strait relationship, the beginning of the worst era of the self ruled Province of Taiwan's 73 years history. What make it unacceptable to the Chinese around the world is the DPP Party wanted to change the STATUS QUO status of Taiwan and bring external forces into the Greater China internal affairs. No sound minded peoples of the land would accept such. All internal matter must be resolved within without any external forces interference. DPP Party is run by western educated minded , corrupted politicians that supported Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) community who have romantic, sexual or affectional desire for people of all genders and sexes. Which is not acceptable in Chinese culture and society. Unlike the present batch of DPP Party politicians, the older batch of DPP politicians like Lin Cheng Chieh , still supported reunification and adhered to Article 4 of the original Constitution. The first DPP Party leader who become the first non- Kuomingtang Party as President of Taiwan from 2000 -2008 was Chen Sui Bian who is a staunch pro-independence advocator. He was charged with embezzling state funds, committing forgery , money laundering, involved the misuse of a total of $15m (£9m) in public funds between 2000 and 2008. Chen's wife, Wu Shu-chen, who was also jailed over corruption in 2009, had her sentence reduced to 20 years. Chen's family had returned several million dollars. and Chen, said the alleged bribes were campaign contributions, he apologised for misusing some of the money.

@aslampervez2294

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@user-ms9ml7xf5j

7 ай бұрын

已經2023了先生

@年青人

9 күн бұрын

@@user-ms9ml7xf5j台湾要想独立只有打了，这个世界上独立自主的国家都是拿命填出来的。

Anyway, I strongly believe in the government of mainland China, this issue will be solved peacefully with time, if the Taiwanese government doesn't make crazy actions.

@sggr7708

Жыл бұрын

BULLSHIT ! PSCAL COPPENS IS PART OF THE CHINESE REGIME ! HE ACTS ON BEHALF OF THEM AND REPRESENTS THEM IN THEIR BEST SHINE ! THIS PERSON SHOULD GO TO JAIL WHEN ENTERING EUROPE ! SELLING OUT WESTERN CULTURE ! REPRESENTING A FASCIST TOTALITARIAN REGIME CHINA ! WAKE UP ! WE SHOULD BAN THIS CHANEL !

@alexandergroom

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the best way is to peacefully fire intercontinental ballistic missiles over Taiwan into the sea. Sending missiles over the heads of millions of men, women, and children is definitely not crazy. Taiwan is definitely the aggressor.

@drumpfdon760

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

If China is to become the worlds No1 economy then one day in the future Taiwan may want to be part of that success story and there will be no war.

@drumpfdon760

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-P yes, then just wait and watch!!

Taiwan cares most about the everyday life of its own people. That's why Taiwan’s goal is to remain a free and democratic country. PRC is a totalitarian state with only one party staying in power forever. Everyone in ROC Taiwan has a direct vote for electing president. Big difference. Government of each side should care about the daily life of their people as first priority. But PRC intends to take ROC for "Great Rejuvenation of China". PRC never governed ROC. It's not unification or reunification as in PRC propaganda. It's invasion.

@septemberborn6540

Жыл бұрын

you are right in China the people work for the rich that rules them and tells them what to do and the government in Taiwan work for the people

@perliemark3034

Жыл бұрын

Thats why it will work as 'one China under 2 system".

@likang3842

Жыл бұрын

you know nothing about china ,how would you come up with that if you have neve living china?why dont you do reserch before commenting?there are many youtuber telling the truth about china why dont you just watch some instead of watch your anti social media?CNN OR BBC?

@samseptemberbiker6248

Жыл бұрын

@@perliemark3034 only if they are FREE under one system

@user-ms9ml7xf5j

7 ай бұрын

truth

Thanks to Pascal to make very historical, factual assessment and explanation. One thing I'd like to add is that the current Constitution in Taiwan is still considering Taiwan is part of big China, they regard Taiwan as a province of bigger China. Ask Taiwanese, they all know that. The reason US and Japan are playing Taiwan cards are purely political to create unstability to undermined China's growth. Even to the point to put Taiwan in a war.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@camt8804

Жыл бұрын

China != CCP

@PCP-oe7rq

Жыл бұрын

This is not true. Are you even Taiwanese or speaking from a Chinese perspective?

@tx8276

Жыл бұрын

@@PCP-oe7rq I am Chinese, born in Taiwan, and agree with what Nu says.

@davidwong8870

Жыл бұрын

The ROC constiution has been revised 7 times with An Additional Article added to it since Democratization and Taiwanization in the late 80's and 90's in force since 1991 till date.

I don't know why the US government always says that USA is a country that cannot be divided. However, she usually wants others countries be divided. Mainland and Taiwan and. Hongkong are belong the Chinese of the China. There isn't any country government that can devide the China country.

Pascal,, you did a very good job to explain the history of Taiwan in Chinese history. Thanks for your time and efforts. It is excellent video.

This is enlightening. Thanks, Pascal.

They don’t claim .. IT IS PART OF CHINA

Dear Pascal, many thanks for your clarification, you have a good understanding of Chinese history

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

谢谢，梳理得真清楚。Thanks，so clear.

Very objective and detailed introduction to the Taiwan issue. Thanks Pascal! I'd like to add a few points. 1. The de jure soverignty of Taiwan belongs to P.R.China. Ask any diplomat or international law expert he/she will tell you that if honest. Vast majority of the countries state clearly, on the record, that Taiwan is a part/province of P.R.China. There is 0 room for ambiguity. 2. For Nixon, Taiwan for Vietnam is the primary deal. US was in deep shite in Vietnam and Nixon was extremely obsessed to pull out without losing too much face. If you research a bit into what else he did you'll find it crystally clear. Of course, as always, the US politicians are consistent in speaking with forked tongue and stabbing allies in the back. 3. The importance of Taiwan to China actually is not empty pride or culture. It's such a strategically important island that in the hand of opponent, China's soft belly would be exposed and life line will be threatened. In China's posession the PLA Navy will have entrance to the pacific and Chinese ballistic missile submarines will achieve same level of nuclear deterrance as the US ones. 4. The level of hypocracy in the west on this issue is surreal. Even more than that on Ukraine. This is only possible when the "media" is completely manipulated to pump out lies after lies into the public. You either believe in moral rules or jungle rules but not both at the same time. Yet the US can threaten China with all the troops and exercises over and over and be dressed up as "keeper of peace" while China becomes the devil himself with just one military exercies on its own territory. 5. China did not want to take Taiwan by force. The original plan was 2049, which is another generation away. But US ruling elites woundn't allow that. Because they can't allow China to surpass them. The only way they see fit is a war. They made the plan and published it on internet. Ironically I can't refer to it otherwise ..... Some say the US empire is falling and Chinese empire is rising. I would rather there is no empire any more and everyone can live in peace and harmony.

@noelborbon6155

Жыл бұрын

2049 is where India may have dethroned the US as the world's second biggest economy behind China. And Southeast Asian heavyweight Indonesia is just waving behind

@Shenzhou.

Жыл бұрын

Nixon's visit to China was also meant to take advantage of the Sino-Soviet split, which was part of U.S strategy to keep Russia and China suspicious of each other. Whereas now, it seems the U.S's actions in Ukraine and Taiwan island are driving Russia and China closer together than before.

@PCP-oe7rq

Жыл бұрын

Many of these statements are not based on facts, just opinion. Just gonna put it at that.

@seokjin3000

Жыл бұрын

RAND Corporation, "War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable (Jul 28, 2016) is the policy paper you're talking about in your point 5, I think. It guides current US policy.

@chriswong9158

Жыл бұрын

@@PCP-oe7rq Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. ROC wanted it 1945-1970, now PRC have it and so all. opinion cost life, look at Ukraine today.

Hey Pascal, nice work. Just a few comments. Its NOT China replacing Taiwan in the UN! Its the PRC replacing the ROC. Also you have conveniently used Taiwan and China in equal standing. No… both are only equal as ROC and PRC under 1 China (as political entities of China), even though it was the CPC who defeated the KMT…. Taiwan is always a province of both ROC and PRC. Chinese and Western concepts of territory is very different. Chinese thinks of nation as 天下 where as Western concept is actual territorial control/ nation state. Even if we were to use Western concepts, China ie 中国 is certainly a concept of nation but not state. 中国 is a nation concept of centrality which even the Japanese wanted to claim it at the height of their power before they tried by force from 1931-1945 against ROC. So Taiwan will always be part of China regardless who rules mainland China. Hope this helps put some errors or if you like it concepts in order. Btw… Pascal, while I understand you are trying to attract Western audiences but you are a 中国通… why would you have made such errors? unless it is just to make it simple for your western audience. But conceptually and politically you have subtly gave a very different perspective and view of things….. Academically it’s not cool… Btw I am just a current affairs -sino history enthusiast. Not a Chinese national nor member of any political entity. (Thought i state my position)

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

I did indeed try to simplify it at times, and also because I sometimes end up talking about China as PRC as I always make videos about China, and this is first including Taiwan. Most Westerners when they hear China, they never think of greater China or including Taiwan. But thanks for mentioning the correctness, which I am aware of, but need to practice more. 😉

@alfredyap14

Жыл бұрын

@@PascalCoppens many thanks for the clarification Pascal. Appreciate it. Cheers.☺️

As a political realist, I consider over the historical justifications for independent or for provincial status the power reality of the present. That reality has made China, the PRC, the regional hegemon and a world superpower economically and militarily. Taiwan is a small island populated by people of Chinese ethnicity close to the mainland of China. Its leaders have been cultivated by an unscrupulous, imperial power, my country, the USA, located six thousand miles away. The unscrupulous, imperial power uses politicians it cultivates in other countries to meddle in their internal affairs in order to contain the growth of the regional hegemon as a competitor to the USA, whose ruler-class are striving to be the world hegemon and will inflict great misery on other peoples and on the American people in order to pursue world hegemony. Taiwan, like Ukraine, is a proxy in the USAs wars waged for that hegemony. Quite possibly, the people of Taiwan would like to be independent of China, but whether justified by its history or not, Taiwan's options are far better to accept the reality of its location than to place its future in the hands of a distant, martial hegemon with whom it shares no history or cultural ties at all, the USA.

@PhiloSurfer

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

@noelborbon6155

Жыл бұрын

And the island was a colony of Japan for 50 years (1895-1945) as a result of the first Sino-Japanese War.

Pascal, you are truly one of the best China expert!

Thanks! This is a very interesting topic given what just happened recently. Would you mind sharing your sources? Thanks

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

I have read too many articles about this one topic to share all.

Correct assessment

Great explanation, I hope some of those who blindly jumps at the chance to join the anti-China bandwagen really learn some history here! One China means one China, and that China includes Taiwan, like it or not. Reunification is just the end to a civil war and realignment of political views on both sides, that’s it. Looking forward to Part 2 Pascal!

@Fr.VeniceLAI

Жыл бұрын

The West and US may have finally realized how vitial Taiwan has become to maintain some semblances of world peace and stable security order, if Taiwan is taken-over, by CPC-China, it is likely to plunge the entire World into disorder, as it would enable CPC-China to become the World Hegemon, which the West & U.S. would challenge aggressively. See my post on this video..why no escape for ROC-Taiwan...the Red Dragon is coming.

@noelborbon6155

Жыл бұрын

And check their respective constitutions too.

@bjrnhjortshjandersen1286

Жыл бұрын

In politics, you have very few "just". Either you have the power to do ....or you have not. If in a rule-based world it would be slightly different. One-sided action can be very costly, Just look at Russia and Ukraine.

@PCP-oe7rq

Жыл бұрын

Well actually, the San Francisco Peace Treaty that was signed in 1952 stating that Japan renounced all claims of sovereignty over Taiwan with no country specified. So, if anything, Taiwan was part of Japan more recently than it was part of China Qing dynasty. Taiwan is not a part of China!

@zhijingchen4563

Жыл бұрын

​@@PCP-oe7rqSanfrancisco Treaty is a meeting without neither ROC nor PRC, and it is noted the treaty does not resolve the dispute between these two government . One thing you said correctly, PRC never ruled Taiwan, but in order to say Taiwan is an independent country, it needs two conditions: 1. A constitution change to redefine it's border. This is more of a self calm your own territory. 2. A recognition by the world. A country needs recognition by others, Otherwise anyone can claim their house is a new country to avoid tax Unfortunately ROC failed in both steps, or didn't initiate either steps. Plus, both government have strict laws against treason.

Very insightful and well presented. Thanks.

Thank you for this good video! I am eager to see the second one. Maybe they just want to keep their access to KZread without using a VPN! ;-)

Also correction. The UN did not debate between China and Taiwan territories. It's the governments of PRC or ROC.

thanks Pascal to bring this topic. due to my father was a former KMT member, so I was very much KMT supporter in my early age. I remembered very well when the West and East Germany unified in 1990, the then Taiwan were so excited that they can unify the mainland China. They believed Taiwan can play the same role as that of West Germany in the unification. but only one year later TW saw the great price of West Germany had paid for the unification the difficulties the West Germany had gone through. By then TW calmed down and realized they are much smaller and weaker than the West Germany and the Mainland is much bigger and poorer than the East Germany. so TW could not afford to the cost of unification economically and could not afford politically to the responsibility to run the mainland. only from then they started the separation of TW from Mainland. so TW independence is all for self served, self convenience without any basic legality. internationally and domestically.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information

@davidli2080

Жыл бұрын

@@PascalCoppens thanks for your reply. I wish to share my thoughts with you and your readers. I was very much US and West believer in my early age as China was in chaos during Culture Revolution and the West has won the cold war. that's one of the reason that I migrated to NZ, now lived in Australia. the root cause of my shift from KMT supporter and West Value believer to CCP is because of TW issue. This is about territory sovereignty, a country's dignity. it has nothing to do with one's ideology. just think ; any American would tolerate a foreign nation to separate one of US states from US ? Would an Indian keep silent to their county to be split ? The answer is clear. I think I am not alone in this case.

@tonysh3939

Жыл бұрын

@@davidli2080 indeed

@user-yj7zn9vb1n

Жыл бұрын

@@davidli2080 许多台湾人都只是我觉得如何如何，而忽视基本历史事实，甚至不承认中华民国

Hey Pascale, another gd episode! Now, can u give your take on Hawaii and Puerto Rico next plse?

Excellent presentation. Very informative.

Is Republic of China, not republic of taiwan. Thats it.

As a Chinese who lives overseas and has family roots both from mainland China and Taiwan, I am very concerned about this issue. I am a nationalist, have Christianity background, & yes I love Taiwan. But as Pascal said, we as Chinese people in general believe that Chinese civilization is bigger & more important than just governments that have proven to have changed and changed in through out the history. Do not let political differences lead to civil war and even destroy Chinese civilization. I hope that there will be a peaceful reunification, without foreign interference, which can often exacerbate the situation. This is a crucial moment, the western & eastern worlds need to understand each other quickly. Above all, I believe that the survival of human civilization in this world is the most important thing that we have to prioritize, far more important than Chinese civilization itself. Do not let the golden age of our human civilization perish because of political miscalculations in the hand of just a few people. It's new era time for us to have global leaders who have broad knowledge of views & thinking first globally, not just a narrow national mind thinking. We give thank & appreciate this Pascal Coppens channel for working so hard to be a bridge for 2 civilizations that look different. Hopefully the world will be more peaceful, harmony for mutual progress & common prosperity. Regards.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

I have the same concern. Thanks for sharing

@darthpaulx

Жыл бұрын

What you don't know why China wants Taiwan back is that China don't want missilles aiming at them from their backyard. How Japan invaded China is from the north and from the island of Taiwan. Meaning Taiwan is a treat when left independent. USA loves to build bases on Taiwan when it's lose of China. And Japanese will rule Taiwan again. Choose your poison, let your own peoples from the mainland rule it or let the Japanese rule it again. When the Japanese rule it, you can bet that all peoples on the island will live in fear and suppresstion, just like in Okinawa ( which original isn't an island of Japan ). If you think it through, then ruled by your own chinese peoples is the better option. And DPP is a Japanese party in Taiwan. The first leader and all the leaders after him feels that they are more Japanese then Chinese. So the question is, do you love China more or do you love Japan more?

@drumpfdon760

Жыл бұрын

Fully agree and support!!

@tdepp1178

Жыл бұрын

Well said, Joshua. All right thinking people in the world will accept the fact that there is only one China and Taiwan is a province of China. Only the evil American/western elites and ignorant China haters, as well some Taiwanese who have hidden motives, will keep stirring up shit on the Taiwan issue.

@michaelbiedassek7136

Жыл бұрын

Well said 👍

Many thanks for your perspective, much appreciated.

Taiwan laid claim over the whole of China until the early 1980s... (Mainland and Taiwan Island). The ruling govt there claimed there's only ONE China and they in Taiwan are the legal and rightful govt of the Whole of China. So it is not just the Govt in Beijing but also the govt in Taiwan island that understand that China includes Mainland and the island. It is when the world recognise that the Govt in Mainland should really be representing China that the Govt in Taiwan started to say they are not part of China... The West knows this quite well but as is the habit of the West, denies the existence of this recent history and development. Splitting China has always been the strategy of the West.

@septemberborn6540

Жыл бұрын

you are wrong as THE west is against the bully from FORCING their way on Taiwan, let them vote i know China does not under stand free voting as they FORCE their way on others, VOTE VOTE VOTE that is what free countries as the majority rules

@hclau362

Жыл бұрын

@@septemberborn6540 The West? The people who invades and kills millions in Non White countries... give me a break and go buy yourself a conscience... on the way buy some honesty as well...

History information would help most people have a clearer picture of Taiwan... but as US col MacGregor said... Taiwan is a major security asset in the Indo-Pacific... it's an unsinkable aircraft carrier... WWII US attack on Nippon was from Taiwan... sadly some won't trade security concern for less cognitive dissonance... quite sure Pentagon is promoting disinformation on Taiwan... Thank you Pascal for your effort!

@sggr7708

Жыл бұрын

PSCAL COPPENS IS PART OF THE CHINESE REGIME ! HE ACTS ON BEHALF OF THEM AND REPRESENTS THEM IN THEIR BEST SHINE ! THIS PERSON SHOULD GO TO JAIL WHEN ENTERING EUROPE ! SELLING OUT WESTERN CULTURE ! REPRESENTING A FASCIST TOTALITARIAN REGIME CHINA ! WAKE UP ! WE SHOULD BAN THIS CHANEL !

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@noelborbon6155

Жыл бұрын

50 years of Japanese rule on the island

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

"WWII US attack on Nippon was from Taiwan". No it wasn't. Taiwan remained occupied until the end.

@lijewy

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-P I double check my source. You're right. Col. MacGregor said: "During WW2, Taiwan was the unsinkable aircraft carrier of the Imperial Japanese arm forces. All the major invasions of China were launched from Taiwan. Beijing will not allow Taiwan to become a garrison state for American arm forces."

The Taiwan subject is a complicated matter. When the West is reporting on it or when the politicians talk about it, they often neglect its historical context or that the UN recognises the One China Policy. I think Pascal did a great job explaining its history and how things are the way things are. As the US and its allies continues to see their hegemony dwindle, they'll continue to stoke unrest in the region and try whatever they can to prevent the unification of the Chinese people.

@dave4deputyZX

Жыл бұрын

They taiwanese people have rights. They want to remain self-governed, as they have done for almost 80 years. China has no right to force itself upon Taiwan. A famous Irishman once said "land does not have rights; people have rights", and the taiwanese people want to stay independent. If china attacks Taiwan it will be a brutal act of aggression.

@rclsm1021

Жыл бұрын

Funny that you claim the West is stoking unrest in the region, but the threats of war we get in Taiwan only ever come from the CCP. Also, I reject your unification of the Chinese people the way China is going, because we aren't the same. The CCP doesn't want the Taiwanese people, only our land.

@chriswong9158

Жыл бұрын

For that, they looking forward to Abraham Lincoln prediction : "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we lose our freedoms it will be because we have destroyed ourselves from within".

@FloofyMinari

9 ай бұрын

FALSE: The UN never recognized the One China Policy. The "One China Policy" was developed by the U.S. The PRC has the "One China Principle" which is different Neither of which were adopted by the UN. btw, the One China Policy technically does not recognize Taiwan as part of China, it only acknowledges the PRC"s position. That is to say, the U.S acknowledges that the PRC has an opinion, but doesn't necessarily agree with the PRC's opinion.

@年青人

9 күн бұрын

@@FloofyMinari请拿出联合国不同意的文件

Where is the 2nd part of the series??

Taiwan is not only a separate island, it has many islands. One of the small island is only 5 kilometers to mainland.

Excellent explanations of the complicated history that few westerners know and understand.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@alexandergroom

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Western people are very ignorant and simplistic, they have no way to grasp the deep complexity of the ancient Chinese culture. Gosh, what poor urchins!

@Lily-vg1cb

Жыл бұрын

@@PascalCoppens I was born in 1957. Ever since I have memory, we have called ourselves Chinese (you have described the history accurately in your video). But that has changed gradually over the past 20 years, “Taiwanese” has replaced “Chinese.” Nowadays, not many people can comfortably call themselves “Chinese” in public. One main reason is that the pro-independence DPP (Democratic Progressive Party), the US-backed party, has replaced KMT (Kuomintang) as the dominant party on the island.

@GL-iv4rw

Жыл бұрын

@@Lily-vg1cb It's ok to be called Taiwanese just as Americans in New York are called New Yorkers, what this is all about is whether Taiwanese and Chinese are mutually exclusive when in fact the latter includes the former

@user-ms9ml7xf5j

7 ай бұрын

​@@Lily-vg1cb 在台灣，你說你是中國人時 你會被逮捕、被公審、甚至觸法嗎？不會，因為你有言論自由，你有自己的選擇，你不用害怕被禁評刪帳號請喝茶，沒有人逼你當台灣人，沒有人會被政治迫害，希望你理解這一點

Thanks for these insights. Not sure for the Ming/Qing thing but anyway, a good historical context. For part 2, will you cover what is inside the white paper released recently by PRC's state council? I was very surprised to discover that PRC was actually offering the '1 country 2 systems' scheme to Taiwan, I thought it was only experts speculation... And that talks had started decades ago, before stalling recently.

@charlizet4314

Жыл бұрын

It is not expert speculation but it is real and has been repeatedly offered. Speech by former Taiwan President and President Xi during historical meeting in 2015 provides clear picture of the aspiration for peaceful reunification kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJh-zqRwZJifmNo.html

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

Taiwan won't accept the 1 country 2 systems. They see what has happened in HK

@Shenzhou.

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-P Then how does Taiwan propose to reunify? The One Country, Two Systems policy, if extended to Taiwan, would allow the island to keep their government, their elections, their currency, passport, (and even keep their military) while being considered as a reunified part of China (much like Hong Kong and Macau), yet Taiwan reject this offer. Then what's Taiwan's solution? (P.S: Accepting the offer would be as if North Korea and South Korea agree to reunify as a single country, Korea, while allowing both sides to keep their respective governments).

@charlizet4314

Жыл бұрын

@@Shenzhou. the solution for reunification is within the deeper meaning of the speech made by former Taiwan President Ma and President Xi. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJh-zqRwZJifmNo.html It cannot be achieved within a short time frame but definitely possible as outlined in the speech made by both. Unfortunately, DPP has derailed all these efforts.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

I will indeed.

Thank you. Very informative.

most unbiased, accurate tw related vid

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@rainpoem2

Жыл бұрын

There is no need to keep talking. Taiwan is part of China.

It really shocked me that you explained the delicate and complex history between the two sides of China in a simple, accurate and clear way. China has always thought that being invaded by foreign nationalities is a great shame, and people of the same blood and race should unite. This is why China has always stressed the need to reunify the two sides of the strait.

@yichu8757

Жыл бұрын

Cx

@yichu8757

Жыл бұрын

ㄇ

@chriswong9158

Жыл бұрын

Until then, the China’s Century of Humiliation continues...

@leejet4730

Жыл бұрын

So was Taiwan invaded by any ? Was it ever really a part of China ?

@genshin-yv1gu

Жыл бұрын

@@leejet4730Japan invaded and occupied Taiwan for 50 years，from 1985 to the end of ww2 .Before that Taiwan was apart of China indeed，and people lived on the island were mostly Chinese，they had lived on Taiwan for hundreds of years before Japan took it away.

I'm surprised many people doesn't know about this and I am even more surprised quite a few doesn't even know where Taiwan is in the map

您真的是一个中国通，不仅了解中国人的文化、生活习惯，而且还非常了解中国的历史，真心希望多点像您这样的学者。 You know Chinese culture, history, and people's habits very much, as Chinese I hope there will be more scholars just like you.

Maybe the missiles will bypass Taiwan and go straight to USA?

@septemberborn6540

Жыл бұрын

well do you think maybe that would be the end of CHINA?

@kenmunro9517

Жыл бұрын

@@septemberborn6540 China mass production everything US hasn't won a war in my lifetime!

@septemberborn6540

Жыл бұрын

@@kenmunro9517 the factories in China was started by USA, why is China mad right now as the US will start making micro chips in a BIG way?

@kenmunro9517

Жыл бұрын

@@septemberborn6540 HA HA HA BELIEVING YOUR OWN PROPAGANDA HA HA HA

@septemberborn6540

Жыл бұрын

@@kenmunro9517 TRUE cheep labor and China stole all the rights

🙏 Thank you for your sharing Mr Coppens 🙏

@sggr7708

Жыл бұрын

PSCAL COPPENS IS PART OF THE CHINESE REGIME ! HE ACTS ON BEHALF OF THEM AND REPRESENTS THEM IN THEIR BEST SHINE ! THIS PERSON SHOULD GO TO JAIL WHEN ENTERING EUROPE ! SELLING OUT WESTERN CULTURE ! REPRESENTING A FASCIST TOTALITARIAN REGIME CHINA ! WAKE UP ! WE SHOULD BAN THIS CHANEL !

Well explained, thank you!

One thing I think is important from PRC and RoC point of view was that there was a Chinese Civil War that had started since forming of the Chinese Communist, this war has been happening even now only that there's an armistice, and one understanding of the 'condition' for this armistice is One China and both side want a peaceful settlement. (without "peaceful" and without "settlement" there would be no ‘armistice') The war has been there already, not 'China' starting a new one!

Disclaimer: the following is explained in very simplistic terms, so a lot of details will be left out. In order to understand the current China situation, you would need to first understand that the Han Chinese ethnicity make up about 18% of the world population, 92% of the People's Republic of China population, and 97% of the Republic of China (Taiwan) population. The Qing Dynasty was ruled by the Manchu minority. Sun Yat-sen is called the father of modern China, as he led the overthrow of the Qing Dynasty to return China back to Han Chinese rule, but recognized the minority ethnicities as also "Chinese". Under Sun, there were 2 major leaders with completely opposite visions for rebuilding China: Chiang Kai-shek who was backed by China's rich and Mao Zedong who advocated robbing the rich. The economic idea is that a lot of wealth is needed to industrialize. There are 3 approaches: 1) rob externally, such as the British robbed India of $45 trillion, 2) rob internally, such as the USSR did own population, or 3) grow slowly, such as India after independence. Chiang Kai-shek was not able to secure the Japanese war reparations because FDR needed Japan to be rebuild in order to counter-balance the USSR. This led to a cascade of events that resulted in huge chucks of the people following Chiang Kai-shek to lose hope in Chiang's path for China, and switched to follow Mao Zedong. What is interesting is that Chiang Kai-shek robbed the people in China (riches of the country transported during the withdraw)and in Taiwan (new currency) to industrialize Taiwan, which is why there is a political split between the descents who immigrated to Taiwan pre-1945 and the post-1945 along the the Chiang Kai-shek retreat from mainland China. Both the People's Republic of China population and the Republic of China (Taiwan) claim all of China, including mainland China and Taiwan. Both are branches from the same tree started by Sun Yat-sen after overthrowing the Qing Dynasty. Contrary to popular Western media, only a small vocal anti-China minority wants to abolish the ROC Constitution (which claims ALL of China) to declare the end of Republic of China (Taiwan) and the start of Taiwan as a new nation. Most do not see themselves as "Chinese" when referring to the "China" in the People's Republic of China. Most do see themselves as "Chinese" when referring to the "China" in the Republic of China. Most do see themselves as "Chinese" when referring to being of the Han ethnicity, since that is an objective fact. They also see themselves as "Taiwanese" because they are born there. Just like there is no conflict in being both a Texan and an American, there is no conflict in being a Taiwanese and a Chinese at the same time, unless that China refers to the PRC. I have friends in Taiwan who are Taiwanese (pre-1945) and military age. I asked them about fighting if China attacked. NONE of them, nor their family and friends want to fight, even though they want to maintain the status quo. They feel strongly against anyone using them as cannon fodder for anti-China political purposes. They see the US as two-faced, subjecting Taiwanese to the same anti-Chinese racism in the US, especially in the US military and hi-tech research fields*. People have preferences that do not reach the level they are willing to risk death for. For example, I prefer not to be robbed. But, if someone points a gun to my head, I'm not going to defend my wallet by risking my life. The people in Taiwan see that the US is coming to rob Taiwan , especially their economic crown jewel, TSMC. The government lead by the DPP, is so politically anti-China, that they see it as an acceptable cost. Of course, individuals can make their own decisions. If you are a valuable employee of TSMC, you could stay in Taiwan and hope for the best, go to S Korea which has a competitive base but a big language barrier, go to Japan which has a lesser competitive base but also a big language barrier, go to the US which could be years away from building the competitive base but with racism and language barrier, or go to mainland China which has a lesser competitive base but practically no language barrier. The threat of a massive brain drain from Taiwan to China, is causing the DPP to announce loudly that local governments in China do not offer much practical help once Taiwanese move there, leaving many nearly destitute if their ventures**. The help comes from the employer, so if the employee becomes unemployed, the help from local governments will probably equally unhelpful, China or not. In conclusion, the US may successfully rob Taiwan of money, and China may successfully rob Taiwan of skilled professionals. Taiwan needs a Nixon who could get a think outside the box breakthrough. *Washington Post 06/30/2019 The military is kicking out foreign recruits it needs - for having foreign ties. Denial reason "Your grandfather was tortured by the Chinese Communist Party when he fought against them while serving in the Republic of China Army." The Republic of China is aka Taiwan. Slate 9/11/2016 Just the Wrong Amount of American Wen Ho Lee’s 1999 arrest taught Chinese Americans that their country may never trust them. Times identified the suspect as Wen Ho Lee, a Taiwan-born scientist, and reported he’d just been fired from the lab. The federal judge, in releasing Lee, offered an extraordinary and emotional apology, firing a salvo at the executive branch for drumming up the case and causing “embarrassment to our entire nation and each of us who is a citizen in it.” Science 4/19/2019 Exclusive: Major U.S. cancer center ousts ‘Asian' researchers after NIH flags their foreign ties Chinese American community fears ethnic targeting at MD Anderson by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and National Institutes of Health. Mien-Chie Hung, a Taiwanese-born researcher who recently left MD Anderson, echoes that view. **Taipei time 8/16/2022 Taiwanese who move to China find no support

@Shenzhou.

Жыл бұрын

Chairman Mao is the founding father of the _People's Republic of China_ 🇨🇳 and he succeeded in the herculean task of *reunifying our divided country* where the previous Nationalist Kuomintang failed during the _Republic of China_ 🇹🇼 (1912-1949) period for 37 years. When Dr Sun Zhongshan overthrew the previous Qing Dynasty China and established "democratic" Republic of China was divided into several areas, we lost control of Tibet, and various warlords ruled different parts of China and even Japan invaded China twice during this weak period of Chinese history. Dr. Sun tried to get help from the Western powers, but they laughed at the thought of China copying their democracy. They even gave away the Shandong province (which had been occupied by the Germans during WWI) to Japan, instead of returning it to China (even when China was part of the Allies during WWI). In the end, Dr. Sun died without ever realising a unified China under democracy. But then Mao Zedong came along, and he accomplished what the ROC could not, and reunifed China under communism, proclaiming the People's Republic of China in 1949 and Tibet was finally returned back to China in 1951. If not for Mao Zedong, China today would still be weak and divided country, fighting among ourselves, instead of the strong unified country we are today.

@schwanish8799

Жыл бұрын

@@Shenzhou. Actually, Mao's greatest contribution was obtaining the technology and industrialization to successfully create nuclear weapons. Mao will go down in Chinese history as one of the most influential leaders. Mao was a great military genius, but he was not good at managing the country. Deng, on the other hand, was a great managing genius. He gambled that with nukes to counter existential threats, he could focus entirely on building the country, and won that gamble. Deng's one-child policy and poverty eradication progress places him as one of the most influential leaders in human history.

Great video. This is the most professional explanation about the relationship between China and Taiwan.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😃

Thanks lots for your work

Not a complex question at all. It is sounds complex, because this is a man-created question, and politicians make it complex. Just look at this fact: until about 20 years ago, to the whole world, even to the whole Taiwan society, Taiwan and the other side of the strait belong to China was not a question at all. But since then, it gradually becomes a question to some people, due to politicians’ kick in. Just read a little serious materials, you will know all of these.

great video, very imformative

@chendavid1442

Жыл бұрын

China offered taiwan a status like state with its own political system, army , fiscal independency etc. , but refused by Taiwan.

The voice of reason.Thanks

For Pascal, 1) Taiwan's official name is Republic of China (RoC) 2) PRC (mainland)'s map is shown at 1:05 of your video clip while Taiwan's, or RoC's, official territorial map includes Mongolia!

@n0buddy919

Жыл бұрын

But ROC was the one that allow Mongolia indepadant ,so this part already remove from China when rules by ROC . Note: ROC represented China,so it's count as China desicion.

@pengliangsu

Жыл бұрын

不放弃蒙古也只是口嗨把，要知道蒙古独立可是民国的事情，那时候你们在干什么

Good explanation of Tawain history. The map show Taiwan belong to the Qing Empire but also a much bigger part that Russia did take.

@michaelwang6125

Жыл бұрын

6:32 wait... is that how China really look like under Qing. What happened to the Northern East Lands... that seems to belong to Russia on the World Map? Those lands belongs to China since ancient times and they must be reclaimed!!! at any cost or it'll always remain a humiliation of all time!

Great insight.

What a fascinating analysis!

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you for sharing the Taiwan island history to us. Interestingly, I believe, since founding of PRC since 1949, the claim of Chinese territory by PRC goveeernment has not increased and all based on history and documents. If we asked this question to the US, UK they will find it difficult to answer :)

@Mar-ec7et

Жыл бұрын

Taiwan constitution has clearly said it is part of ROC. Taiwan+Mainland is ROC.

@camt8804

Жыл бұрын

Like the nine dash line map 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@michaelwang6125

Жыл бұрын

6:32 wait... is that how China really look like under Qing. What happened to the Northern East Lands... that seems to belong to Russia on the World Map? Those lands belongs to China since ancient times and they must be reclaimed!!! at any cost or it'll always remain a humiliation of all time The land is many times bigger than Taiwan island too Taiwan must give up some of the ancient artifacts of China history since *Mao the great destroy most of the relics to protect its people during the cultural revolution* . Only *Xi can surpass Mao!*

@justice9325

Жыл бұрын

China doesn't have Taiwan sovereignty ❤ ❤ This is a crap video !

@hongkongpong5588

Жыл бұрын

The West led by d U. S. r d mafia n bullies of d world..

Great explanation and analysis. The Taiwanese people must learn real history and facts.

@channinglee862

Жыл бұрын

😂 Taiwan’s goverment removed history before 1949 in school, they chose to forget theirs history.

@user-ms9ml7xf5j

7 ай бұрын

​@@channinglee862 We Taiwanese learned history about China and the rest of the world ok?If you haven't received any education in Taiwan... just stop transmitting rumours,shut up,and go back to the wall 🧱 your government set for you🤪🤪🤪

good explaination, very objective

You missed a few important points in history: 1. Before 1644, China was ruled by the Ming dynasty. But after 1644, the Qing dynasty overthrew the Ming dynasty and became the official ruling dynasty of China. Koxinga was a Ming loyalist, he chased the Dutch out of Taiwan to establish an exile Ming dynasty in Taiwan. 2. Koxinga passed on his rulership of Taiwan to his son, but the Qing empire eventually sent a navy to defeat Koxinga's son in Taiwan and he surrendered his kingdom to the Qing empire in 1683. Therefore, what you said at 7:09 wasn't correct. Because technically speaking, that was the point where Taiwan was absorbed into the Qing dynasty, since 1683. While the Qing empire did not establish Taiwan as an independent province, but under the Qing dynasty, but Taiwan was officially a jurisdiction of the Fujian province from 1684 and onwards, after it was incorporated into the map of the Qing empire.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

I did mention some of it, but glad you added more and corrected me on these historical facts.

My two cents on the topic: I think if there is a reunification, it's going to be through the use of geoeconomic machinery rather than through force like what many analysts in Western media say. Any military force involved is simply counterproductive to the goal. Reunification through force has 0 benefit even ideologically, and certainly not economically or politically. It would be a lot of money just to use more money to rebuild and integrate an agitated population. There is a lot of talk about TSMC's value, but it's not eternal. Taiwan will have to reassess its economic direction because it faces a demographic crisis much worse than the mainland, with a lower fertility and total population. Its southbound policy has some potential to bandage some of it, but looking at Japan and South Korea, it can only mitigate the problem by obtaining additional foreign capital. During 2008, there was a lot of economic interconnectivity enabled to pass the recession, which shows a level of economic compatibility when ignoring politics, and one of Taiwan's largest trading partners is the mainland. Combined with China's strong infrastructure capabilities, a future recession may be the inflection point that strengthens further cooperation and ultimately to a peaceful unification if both sides recognise and arrange a win-win scenario. A similar situation played out in history, not in terms of politics, but in economics, when Texas joined the United States. Texas entered economic hardship and pressed to join the Union, as Washington also had something to gain even if it meant paying off some of the Texan bills, mainly more land and a front with Mexico. Although I do think status quo will be the most likely scenario within the next half century or so, and military reunification as the least likely possibility. The "legitimacy" of being a recognised country is irrelevant pragmatically to whichever party is in control of Taiwan, whether the KMT or DPP, because it would only be a political score, nothing else, so maintaining the status quo does not lose them anything, but attempting to disrupt it could finally resolve the Taiwan situation, one way or another.

@sichuan385

Жыл бұрын

lol. dream on

@qinby1182

Жыл бұрын

Agree... BUT there is NO discussion on wether Taiwan is a part of China. (The WHOLE WORLD accept the "One China Policy") My "simple" explanation without "going in to the weeds" Up until 1971 the Government of Taiwan was the RECOGNISED (By the UN) government of ALL OF CHINA. Since 1971 Beijing is the recognized government of ALL OF CHINA. EXACTLY what has happened (and when) since 1971 that made Taiwan its own country, i.e. stooped being a part of China. Really can't go back 400 years... then the USA belongs to the Navajo Nation or something... Who would argue that?? I say. If Taiwan claimed to be a part of China in 1971 they ARE STILL a part of China. A "Funny" thing is "usually" the ones talking about Taiwans independence DO NOT believe Crimea or Eastern Ukraine have the same right

@becoolenough

Жыл бұрын

@@qinby1182 "If Taiwan claimed to be a part of China in 1971 they ARE STILL a part of China.", until now at the moment, the constitution name of "taiwan" is still called China, Republic of CHINA

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

Until Pelosi's visit I thought alike. I do however think there is a new cycle that started that changes how the western world's politicians support Taiwan more towards independence.

@qinby1182

Жыл бұрын

​ @Pascal Coppens There is one thing to consider... As per "everybody" Taiwan IS A PART OF CHINA. If it was not why talk about independence?? So the USA say they will support Taiwan, a separatist part of China by force to support its independence. So if that is an OK thing to do then what is wrong with Russia supporting the separatist regions of Ukraine by force?? One could assume USA would understand this principle... Hypocrisy??

People need to realise that an independent Taiwan is an adverse choice for them and that a one country, two systems Taiwan is the best choice for them and also for the rest of the world...just do an honest and thorough cost-benefit analysis.. 🇨🇳🤝🇹🇼

@lijewy

Жыл бұрын

Also, one country two systems is working very well in Hong Kong... Greater Bay Area is a bold project that would probably solve the core problem behind the mass involvement of people in past manifestations.

@fannybirot2362

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Taiwanese economic depends mostly on mainland Chinese market, too!

@lijewy

Жыл бұрын

@@fannybirot2362 Indeed... like SK, HK they're hub between China and West... sinicized with Western law... western business love that.

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

@@lijewy There is only really one system in HK now.

@lijewy

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-P Ya! And it has to be... that's the intention you know? One country Two systems means One China One system for mainland One system for HK... i think you're hasty in your conclusion.

Ideology: 99% should rule 100% Reality: 0.000002% rules 99%

@user-kw7ti5dt4k

3 ай бұрын

美国也一样

Great explanation. It is crucial to acknowledge that the Taiwanese government, under the ROC, underwent a significant transformation from an authoritarian regime to a democratic state. This development holds great importance when examining the historical context as it highlights the value of freedom and the impact it has on determining the rightful governance of a nation.

@oskarngo9138

Жыл бұрын

By your logic; anyone can declare independence... ...simply because “they want to”.. Soon there will be no (China) country left... ....Try not paying taxes and saying this to the IRS... ...Try saying this to all the countries in Europe that have Separatist Regions (like Flanders; Faroe; Aland; Catalonia; Bavaria; etc...)

Taiwan is China territory 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳✊✊💪💪👍👍👍👍 nice video!!

@thisiskevin1000

Жыл бұрын

And the province Japan have stolen from them

@sggr7708

Жыл бұрын

NO ITS NOT ! ITS DEMOCRATIC AND NOT FASCISTOID LIKE THE MAINLAND REGIME ! PSCAL COPPENS IS PART OF THE CHINESE REGIME ! HE ACTS ON BEHALF OF THEM AND REPRESENTS THEM IN THEIR BEST SHINE ! THIS PERSON SHOULD GO TO JAIL WHEN ENTERING EUROPE ! SELLING OUT WESTERN CULTURE ! REPRESENTING A FASCIST TOTALITARIAN REGIME CHINA ! WAKE UP ! WE SHOULD BAN THIS CHANEL !

You correctly mentioned that the government in Taiwan claimed they are the rightful owner of the entire mainland and the island and hope someday they will reunite the country. You also mentioned that by 1970/80 they realised there was no hope. True as well. However the ROC's constitution has not changed. It still says mainland and the island belong to one country. So like it or not Taiwan is not and cannot be independent until someone has the guts to change the constitution.

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

not unimportant detail of constitution indeed.

很高兴听到这么完整的关于中国大陆和台湾的历史，我们从不认为台湾或者任何一个地方是某一个政党的。或者说无论是哪个政党执政中国人都不在乎，我们在意的是。中国不能像美国想要对越南和朝鲜做的那样，试图把我们分为两个部分互相制约。台湾大部分人是中国内战时期战败的大陆人，我们虽有分歧，但在几年前，我们都一致认为我们是同一个国家的人。但是我们不知道为什么，台湾民进党执政后一直试图让台湾独立，另一方面美国和日本也不断试图在这件事情上挑衅中国，他们一方面宣称不支持台湾独立，一方面试图与台湾建交并为台湾出售军火。我们都知道他们想要引起中国大陆和台湾的战争，并以此为借口制裁中国，并且刺激中国财富流向美国，就像他们对欧洲做的一样。我们希望和平统一，并为此等了70多年了，如果可以我们可以在等70年。但是台湾现在的执政党以及美国日本的做法，让我们觉得机会越来越渺茫。越南，美国，英国都为了统一发动了战争。我不希望中国这么做，因为对方也是中国人，中国政府也一样，所以我们等待了70多年。但是我们知道，美国一定会在最后利用台湾刺激一次中国，并且很有可能怂恿并承认台湾独立，所以我们已经做好了为之一战的准备。希望那个时候不要到来

@septemberborn6540

Жыл бұрын

good let them vote on reunification, by the way 1.5% want to be reunified that means 98.5% dont

@tkw3864

Жыл бұрын

@@septemberborn6540 寫中文啦仆街

@user-ms9ml7xf5j

7 ай бұрын

不要一直怪民進黨啦 我哪怕不支持民進黨也不會跟你們統一啦 想太多😅😅😅

Well explained on the history. In Taiwan, we don't have consensus on this subject either; quite confusing year after year. Similar to Hongkong issue, in case China is foreced to start, it is subject to US/WEST to go for a war or not. No matter what, power behind different camps speaks eventually.

"Is Taiwan a country or not?" If you ask such question, you are ignorant of history, at least history of Asia. Taiwan has been part of China for thousands of years.......... until Mr. Chang Kaished, himself a Chinese, escaped from China to Taiwan .......

@PascalCoppens

Жыл бұрын

It is the question many people ask, which I tried to explain how and why the question does have an ambiguous answer.

@marisajmlrosalyn6529

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha...tats y i also think this is a silly question.

@rogerfaint499

Жыл бұрын

And where did he escape to? 1. to a different country from China? If that was the case, it would be considered an invasion into a different country, but since it did not happen and no DIFFERENT country protested to the UN about it, it means that obviously it was part of China.

Thank you Pascal, for another well researched and thought provoking story about China, particularly as it relates to the existing political tension over Taiwan and reunification. The Taiwanese population of today need to put such historical and cultural information into perspective in order to make the best decision for them, their families and their Island. Wars and the division of land, resources and people have taken place throughout history for better and for worse depending on whose side wins or loses. Empires come and go, usually they go down fighting a war, the Anglo/American empire is no exception to this history, it is going down fighting. Mainland China is a massive super power that is on the rise, the sheer size of production, economy and now military capability means that the CPC/PRC cannot lose a conventional war. A stronger China/Russia alliance now in the making, will hopefully rule out a nuclear war. The Taiwanese people really don't have much choice other than reunification with mainland China.

@chriswong9158

Жыл бұрын

They should also know, the CCP do a better job then the KMT had ever did. 100 million dye in China 1959-1977

You are telling the facts. You have another subsriber.

Great video! unbiased!

This video is the most informative video on modern Chinese history that I’ve seen to date.

China and Russia work together now. A strong relationship. EU should join Russia China. Strong combination. Yankee go home.

@septemberborn6540

Жыл бұрын

who is forcing their way on others? only dictator countries like R and C want all to be under a strong arm ruler and the people are afraid to speak up

There is major discrepency on the slide you post 19:53. You post the 3rd US-PRC Joint Communique and not the 1st Communique or the Shanghai Communique where the One China Policy was first mentioned. You blacked out the actual full statement as in the 3 joint communique, the US acknowledged and not recognized that Taiwan is part of China, an ambigous statement. One may argue that in the English dictionary acknowledge = recognize. The use of the word "acknowledge" rather than "accept" is often cited as an example of the United States' ambiguous position regarding the future of Taiwan. You also failed to mention the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA) after President Jimmy Carter signed the 2nd US-PRC Joint Communique breaking diplomatic ties with ROC in favour of the PRC which created an uproar in the US Congress which led to the Congress passing the TRA. Also there were a lot of protest in Taiwan against US decision and led to the set up of America Institute in Taiwan. You also failed to also mentioned the Six Assurances given by President Reagan regards to the sales of arms to Taiwan. The use of UN Resolution 2758 is distorted and misused as ROC or Taiwan was not ever mentioned in the Resolution. By the way, ROC (Taiwan) representative withdrew from the UN during the debate after the rejection of the US proposal.

100% accurate. Good job!

Regardless of the government presiding over in mainland, those government has considered Taiwan part of their sovereignty. For example, Song dynasty has drawn map of their territory that covers Taiwan and appointed a governor based in Penghu island. Incidentally, Song dynasty is but one of several regimes covering the lands bounded by present day China borders. Ming dynasty also exercised their sovereignty over Taiwan by granting the Dutch East Indies Company the permission to set up trading outpost in Taiwan adter denying them the same on the mainland. These history is why Taiwan is considered part of China even though Han Chinese only inhabit Taiwan in great numbers during the Dutch East Indies time.

Taiwan is part of China, and it doesn't matter the West and the Americans like it or not. Is Northern Ireland part of Britain? Is East Germany part of Germany before unification? Is North Korea part of Korea as a whole? What if Scotland voted to separate from Britain, how will the British feel or do? Don't tell me the Americans love and care about the Chinese so much that they have to interfere with China's internal affairs? It is not that hard, it is called Taiwan, China, and the citizens are called Chinese.

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

East Germany wanted to be re-united, the Koreans don't and not enough Scottish voted to become independent. Northern Island to - but that could change - up to them and Ireland. For the other option is a United Ireland

@robertwong2218

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-P You don't get the point.

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

Like the Tibetans and Uyghurs. I think the Taiwanese don't want to end up like them. Both the Chinese ambassodors to France & Australia said the Taiwanese - those that survive the war I guess - will all go to re-education camps.

@robertwong2218

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-P Have you ever been to Tibet and Xinjiang? How much do you know about Chinese history? I guess not much.

@Andy-P

Жыл бұрын

@@robertwong2218 I don't live in the historical past. Especially China's. It is difficult to travel to Tibet or Xinjiang. From what people tell there is a very heavy security presence.

Excellent analysis.

On an interesting note, you should mention the concept in Taiwan between 外省人 & 本省人. Basically ethnically Chinese people who migrated to Taiwan before and after 1949. 外省人 can be characterized as people in Taiwan who have immediate ancestors in the Mainland and seek reunification with China. These people don’t speak “Taiwanese” and often are descendants of the KMT forces that fled to Taiwan. The same forces that killed Taiwanese intellectuals under Chiang’s command. These people don’t care about Taiwan as their history has always been linked to the mainland. The older generation of 外省人 don’t speak Taiwanese and have different accents in their Mandarin. 本省人 on the other hand emigrated to Taiwan long before 1949 and do not have immediate ancestors from the mainland. Yes they are mostly ethnically Han Chinese but with the passage of time, there are less reasons to identify as Chinese (as an American would not identify as Irish due to his Irish great grandfather). 外省人 saw Taiwan as a temporary base from which to retake China. They persecuted the intellectual 本省人 who actually saw Taiwan as their Home. Younger generations from both groups tend to identify with a Taiwanese identity. However, these differences between 外省人 & 本省人 can still be seen in the older power player politicians that run the KMT and DPP.

US supports Taiwan to challenge China and this is a way for US to contain China. Taiwan should embrace mainland for reunification because they are the same race, same culture and same history.Reunification can bring Taiwan better future. Being a pawn of US will only bring Taiwan to disaster.

@fredtan1506

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Americans are racists. Remember Jeremy Lin was called chink or Ching Chong in the nba. Wake up Taiwan Chinese.

@josephlau9585

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I strongly support your view.

@septemberborn6540

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but it is China threatening the US and they are the aggressor and has to be stopped and if you look at history those bullies that threaten is the one that burns as the US does not threat they ACT

“Taiwan” has never been a country, and there has never been a country called "Taiwan" in this world, and of course that "Taiwan" is part of China, whether that China is the Republic of China or the People's Republic of China, The United Nations and the vast majority of countries in this world recognize the One China Policy, the government of the People’s Republic of China is “the sole legal Government of China.”

@XsivNRGamer

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You are right, it's the Republic of China and as soon as they regain the rest of their territory this will all be over. Free China!

@andrenogueira5058

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So it seems that Taiwan was Japanese and/or outside China ruling for far too long for the Chinese regime to claim to be sovereign over this territory. Taiwan is as Chinese as Tibet - only if invaded. Taiwanese care too much for their freedom and basic human rights than for being just another part of CCP's empire.

@Andy-P

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Once-upon-a-time there wasn't a United States of America. Was part of the British, French or Spanish empire. So the United States of America has no right to exist? Bigger issues are at stake here than claiming some real estate now occupied by people who do not want to be ruled by a foreign government.

@rashius

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@@Andy-P That means civil war, the British wouldn't let the USA go without losing a civil war over it. Same analogy, PRC will not let Taiwan go without losing a civil war.

@Andy-P

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@@rashius Call it what you like. Some called the American War of Independence English Civil War 2. The French got involved with that.

Fantastic explanation of an important issue that very few understand

Thank you and this is very accurate

The Truth of Taiwan's official government, I can't imagine that the entire group of high-ranking officials are Japanese! It's the very reason why they banned the opposition party in Taiwan Government ( rip democracy into Dictatorship) in Taiwan and Hijacked the country from its Government. Here are the list of these official Lee Teng-hui, not surnamed Lee Original name: Noboru Iwasato, of Japanese descent Ancestral home: Mizawa, Aomori Prefecture, Japan Tsai Ing-wen, not surnamed Tsai Original name: Umehara English, Ancestral home of Japanese ancestry: Nihe, Iwate Prefecture, Japan Chen Jizhong, not surnamed Chen Original name: Tozuka Jizuka Japanese ancestry Ancestral home: Hokkaido, Abashiri City, Japan Lai Qingde, not surnamed Lai Former name: Kiyotoku Teraoka, ancestral home of Japanese ancestry: Tamura, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan Chen Ju, not surnamed Chen Original name: Kikuto Tsukasa, of Japanese descent Ancestral hometown: Kuroishi, Aomori Prefecture, Japan Chen Shui-bian and not surnamed Chen Former name: Shimabukuro Mizuhira, Ancestral Home of Japanese Descent: Hachimantai, Iwate Prefecture, Japan Xie Changting, not surnamed Xie Original name: Oka Minister Ting, Japanese ancestry: Ono, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan Su Zhenchang, not surnamed Su Original name: Honda Sadamasa, Ancestral home of Japanese descent: Minami Soma City, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan Lin Yixiong, not surnamed Lin Original name: Yoshio Kojima, of Japanese descent Ancestral home: Hokkaido, Abashiri City, Japan It turns out that those who rule Taiwan now are all Japanese devils! When you finish reading there are two options~ 1. Spread it out 2, just as if I hadn't seen it No matter how busy you are, please send it out

@darthpaulx

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That's why i say that DPP is a Japanese party. KMT is chinese. Kick all those Japanese out and Taiwan will come back by their own.

@marisajmlrosalyn6529

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Hello, are sure,what u claimed? Dun give fake info, if you dun have any proof.

Thank you Pascal for a clear run through on the history of Taiwan. As an overseas Chinese, with my roots from the Fujian province, i would, as with a vast majority of Chinese, like to see Taiwan reunited with the Motherland. Taiwan is like the 'front door' of China. Losing it to foreign powers would literally mean China is denied free access in and out of its own 🏠 home, not to mention the array of missiles pointing at it in short range.

@aripsense

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Iam Chinese Indonesian want to see taiwan reunited with mother land China Hopefully soon

@septemberborn6540

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WELL the Taiwanese don't wont to be under Chinese rule and all others don't count at all, 1.5% of Taiwanese want to unite with dictator China

@septemberborn6540

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@@aripsense you have NO say so for another country

Prince of YanPing only controlled souther Taiwan. China under Qing did rule over Taiwan . The thing is ,the Qing government just ruled over the west part of Taiwan and announced to give up ruling over the east part of Taiwan due to the reason that Qing government thought that the east Taiwan was a uncivilized area.