The thing is. The player base is not only low, is divided into 5/6 casual q´s + 3 ranked q´s. So that 9000 players on steam is split among all these q´s + all the regions. Its almost impossible to get good matchmaking in Smite now

I play with a few newer players (lvl 30+, but below 90) on my main account (lvl 148 with about 2000 hours). The queue will put us in games around my level, while my friends are suffering. Even if my friends are party leader, we still queue into my level games, and I think there is a fair balance for it because it doesn't want to inflate my numbers (not that I care about my Win/Loss, KDA, or DPS), but also make the new players realize that there is a curve to the game. I can't help but notice that the Thana is in "Party 1" which includes the Rat with about 500 matches on queue (which is seasonal), and the Hades with 75 matches. ELO+ suggests they are in a proper queue, but even Smite Guru says that it's not an exact MMR or whatever they are using top calculate games. I feel right now, the player base of Smite just does not care. I've seen so many rage quits, intentional feeds, trolls, whatever and it's impacted the way how I feel about the game. I went from team queueing to solo queue right at the end of the season for conquest and it's bad. I try to coach lower level players, and I have to actively tell them to not focus on the other team mates, focus on yourself and just hope that at 20+ minutes, there's a chance the team fights go good. From there, is a coin toss. Some teams actually perform at late game, others have a full collapse and should probably F6 before the 25 min FG goes down when they have no towers, 2 phoenixes left, and a DC. Is it Smite's issue? Sure, I think the matchmaking is a bit scuffed at times, I've played with pro players and content creators when I sure as hell don't feel like I can land a point blank Vulcan ult. But the player base for Smite is what I have an issue with because if so many different factors. Is there a fix? Most likely not because there are too many people that play and won't care about your feelings in the end. And not to say that it's in every match, but I'd probably say 2/5 games, I see an issue arise.

I have been playing a ton recently and I think it's just player numbers like you say. The problem too though is smite is a complicated game, at the end of the year there are less people playing diluting the matchmaking potential and at the start of the year existing players return and have to learn some core mechanics all over again...

@bigbrisk8423

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say it's obligated as much as it is unbalanced and doesn't make new people want to play it 😂😂

80~90% of my last 15 games I've had teammates with around 10-15k player dmg with deaths ranging to 8-12 with 0-3 kills even had a game with a 0/9/0 Achilles and it was around a 24-30min game. In those 15 there were even players with 2k player dmg both dps roles (mid/carry)

Thank you Inters3ct for this. I thought I was going crazy with some matches that I had.

@BigR62

5 ай бұрын

So glad I’m not the only one dealing with this shit. This on top of constant dc’s and the toxic player base makes smite unplayable some days.

So the biggest problem with the match you're highlighting is that there is an under 30 account that's in a duo queue with a pair of accounts that are over lv. 30. When this happens, Smite matchmaking pretty much shits itself sideways and shoehorns games together to try to find something reasonable. Matchmaking probably tried to find another party of similar design (1 under 30, two over 30's), failed, shrugged, and did what it did. There's no explanation for the Hades other than them being pissed off that they had support and decided to meme.

@Zakeve616

5 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@nathaniels9141

5 ай бұрын

You're right. I had to make a new account when moving from PS4 to PC. The match making is terrible especially if you're queue with other players. Its either stomp or get stomped almost every game. Solo queue was more balanced but even that was pretty much can i 1-2 V 5 with my team not know how to build while the enemy team knew how to build and were decent. Usually the games are fairly close but still annoying compared to a proper game.

I wanted to jump in here when I heard you say he was auto attacking the air when killing his buffs because that's probably how I've looked in the past since I'm Australian and have to play on American servers because ours are dead, so that's just something I'd like people to keep in mind

@Dildobaggins617

5 ай бұрын

Was about to say the same thing like bro im on 140 ping like I’m gonna miss some abilities

This happened to me recently, I had two very new players in my team while the other side were all veteran players. One told me they got the game for Father’s Day. I was speechless

the ranked experience: Game 1: Filled Game 2: Filled Game 3: Filled Game 4: Filled again even though you're on triple priority Game 5: Finally get your desired role

@fortayseven

5 ай бұрын

Game 5: Finally get your desired role, but someone dodges Game 6: Filled because your priority reset because you got your role in game 5.

@jeremiahjohnson7232

5 ай бұрын

I find this really only happens a lot to me if I'm queuing with someone that has picked the same roles as me

@ramsay5738

5 ай бұрын

Talking for me personally, on ranked matchmaking i get my role 7 time out of 10. To be honest i think it is because the matchmaking knows I’m considerably better than i would say without being egotistical (I’m still climbing up the ladder to my actual rank) 90% of those in my rank at solo.

it's kind of like that meme, the enemy team has someone level 26 it's a god tier pro player smurfing and hand lvling an account for fun with an ungodly high mmr, but when your team has a level 26 player, it's a legit beginner who got put in your match for some absurd reason.

I'm commenting straight away with the counterpoint that you actually can blame the players for dragging that lvl 28 into a match with you because the only way they'd even get into a main queue is by queueing with someone else who is above level 30. It's just not a nice thing to do to your teammates, what is the game supposed to do? Find a fresh lvl 31 in queue to make it as balanced as possible? How realistic is that?

@tb41406

5 ай бұрын

I played a game recently with a guy who dragged his lvl 2 friend into a conq game. Then they both got mad at me when I said to try arena to learn God's and mechanics. Smh

@jdaze32

5 ай бұрын

I got to agree this is strictly players bringing other players who should not be playing with them into games and lobbies that they shouldn't be in I'm guilty of this myself but I force my friends to grind the fuck out of the game if they want to keep playing with me

@TePPoP776

5 ай бұрын

@@jdaze32 Yeah, I get that, it's not exactly fair to smurf to play with your friends either, but also if you care about that kind of thing you can sort of smurf responsibly, and choose gods that you are not good at, or just avoid curbstomping newbies with thana going 30/0, unlike your lvl 20 friend in an actual queue that has little recourse other than hug the tower and hope they won't get obliterated. I am very skeptical of the claim that a new player that goes 0/12 in a game is having any kind of fun.

@colinryan4737

5 ай бұрын

I'm level 110 'Pimpasaurus' is the name of anyone is interested in gaming sometime. But I digress. My friend is level 19 and learning quickly. I drag him into conquest with me and he plays fairly well. Of course it's a learning curve, but how else is a person supposed to learn conquest?

@FakeKaiki

5 ай бұрын

Im against smurfing, but if you're getting your friend into the game and want to play with them. Just create a smurf account, just don't go into low level matches utilizing everything at your disposal and shit stomp someone who is new. Try to nerf yourself and focus on guiding your friend and helping them learn. That's what i did when i got my friend into smite years ago.

It looks like the thana and hades were in a party with the rat who was the only other player over level 120 on the team

Holy shit I’m just glad it’s not me. I’ve had so many games where I was baffled by the builds/ players. I’m no pro but I’ve also played the game for thousands of hours and seeing people who should not be in the same lobby as me playing conquest like arena, it drives me insane. Like you said, I’m fine waiting more than a minute to find a game

I would LOVE IT if Smite had party matchmaking… I _hate_ going into a game of assault or MOTD with 5 randoms and we get curbside stomped because they 5 stacked on the other team… Randoms should only have to play against other randoms, while parties should only verse other parties.

@calebowens693

5 ай бұрын

I like that idea, but if you aren't playing during a peak time there might not be many Assault or MOTD 5-stacks. The queue times might be prohibitively long. There's probably some ideal balance point, although I don't know where that would fall.

@mancrab1899

5 ай бұрын

It’d be nice if the player count was healthier but queue times would be absolutely awful and it’d be ridiculous to punish people just because they have friends.

@rizztraininghamster

5 ай бұрын

So you want to get in a game only after 30 mins of waiting. Got ya lol

@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

5 ай бұрын

@@rizztraininghamster At least I’d be halfway confident that I’m jumping into a fair fight.

@calebowens693

5 ай бұрын

Honestly, it would depend on the options. If I was choosing between a 1-minute queue for an unbalanced game and a 30-minute queue for a balanced one: I would choose the 1-minute queue for the unbalanced game. I'm not sure where the cut-off would be, though (3, 5, 8, or however many minutes). Some games are a clear waste of 45 minutes from bad matchmaking.@@rizztraininghamster

I got off Smite for about 2 weeks around Christmas and New Year’s, and now I’m seeing a lot of new names in my lobbies (low masters NA). Before the holidays it was like 30-40 people over and over again with an occasional rando; and sometimes me being a rando in a big boi game. It feels refreshing to see new people, although I did not experience quite the levels of potato-ness as with the Thana. There is a fair share of just diamond players who make the game hard, but that’s not unusual.

I understand that there are many factors that influence the outcome of the match as you put in the video but sadly my team just decides to surrender the second they die once which I personally am tired of experiencing and is putting me off from the game. Can't even finish my build in conquest these days because the second mid or solo decides they're not having a fun time they just sit in fountain trying to force the rest of the team to give up and stop wasting their time only for another person to cave and start a domino effect.

I think that it is more extreme compared to what it used to be. There is like 35% games that our team completly destroys, 35% that our team gets completly destroyed, and the rest 30% are equal games. But overall, is it worse than it used to be? No, its the same.

So first that Thana was partied with someone else which ALWAYS messes with matchmaking in almost every way. I use to do this a lot with friends and sometimes they'd enjoy the challenge and learn faster but others would absolutely hate it which is fair since I have about 1k hours in the game and they're either fresh, coming from League to just have fun with me, or someone who pops into Smite every once and a while. I mainly play with friends so match making for me is always sketchy tending to either be a wash on one side or the other (Normally I'm the worst in my friend group as I'm completely casual, three of them are Masters, one is Gold, then you had me unranked and never really consistent). Is my experience the same? Due to how I play normally yes but when I play alone it's either even or I'm getting stomped. I get wins sometimes but mainly it's team all together just refusing to gather and that but what can you do?

I agree about matchmaking seeming worse recently, though it's been a few months for me. I never play ranked because I don't want to take the game seriously, but I started ranked just to not have level 5 players in my games. In casuals, I keep running into people below level 30 that ruin an entire game, even when partied with someone who knew what they were doing. I finally got the 20-1 achievement because I was against 3 sub-level 30 players in one game. I was Arthur. Something is seriously wrong is Arthur is getting 20 kills. This amount of poor matchmaking is more than I've seen in the rest of my 4 years playing Smite. Granted, it's only between 1-5% of my games ruined like this, but when I only have time to play 2 games in a day, that one that is unwinnable or unlosable feels really bad.

Lately it feels like every other day I get polar opposite game types. One day I'll play 4 games, destroy everyone, and it seems like my teammates are at least competent, while the other team barely knows how to use abilities. The next day, ill just be getting absolutely smoked, either with terrible teammates or im just getting dove non stop by either good players or at least people that know to target a midlaner if I'm in mid. I just find it rare to get an actually good game, thats competitive and not just a stomp in one direction or the other

I was feeling the same this is the main reason i quit playing this game. I have around 3k-3.5k hours into this game and whenever me and a buddy q together lets say an arena or 3v3 for funzies we get the low lvl ppl while the enemy team gets lets say decent players. I dont mind this since level is not everything but games with ppl that dont even know how to build or auto the air like u said makes this so difficult and frustrating and playing more than 3-5 games a day makes my head and eyes hurt from what im seeing. This is the main reason ive stopped playing this game even during peak hours the matchmaking feels even more unbalanced and from time to time, lets say 1/10 or 1/15 games we get ppl that are close both in level and skill but that became a rarity. So yeah keep doing these videos i rly enjoy watching smite vids even thou im done playing it

I'm always in Masters when I play ranked. Started in split 2, and I'm placed with an average of silver 2 players. Not just 1 or 2. I'm placed on teams of 3 people who genuinely play silver. The enemy team isn't good, but they know how to press buttons. I can't win. I play jungle, carry, mid, doesn't matter. It is always 3 or even all of my teammates feed 2 or 3 kills each in the first 4 minutes. No chance to snowball since the enemy team gets so fed. I've reached out to HiRez and all they said was play more. I have 120 games and I'm stuck in gold 2. I average 50k+ damage every single game with 3.5+ KDR. This is unfair not only to me, but to the lower tier players too. 1 out of 4 games I have 1 or 2 players just leave the game because they queue ranked casually. Idk what to do. I think I'm done with this game.

I had a few matches like this one last week. I try to make sure to rate the matchmaking every game but i think i only do it 50% of the time. Its hard to estimate a 5 star rating when you lose though. I usually rate close games where i win as 4 and close games where i lose as 5 to compensate for the bias and potentially get harder matches. If its unwinnable but people are trying its usually a 2. When its unplayable its a 1. When its a stomp on my end its usually a 3. Not sure it it helps hirez but hey.. Matchmaking is just hit or miss. You enjoy the good ones and do your best to surrender and forget the bad ones.

The person in question is in a party and that's the problem. You got thrown into that team to compensate for having his mmr tanking the average, If it worked any other way, his friends would be thrown into shitter lobbies and they'd massacre all the noobs and it would ruin the game for them. So really its a lose lose scenario. Especially if you're queueing casuals, I'm sure this happens in ranked sometimes too- but not nearly as much I'd imagine

I've notice matchmaking seemed off as of late. In other game modes, I've won 7 out of the last 25 games. I have a 52% total win rate across 1500 hours. I don't know if I'm playing like crap, being matched against better players or getting worse teammates. Something has certainly changed.

I think your spot on with this video I started playing smite patch 10.1 so I'm relatively new in the grand scheme of things but I keep getting put with high level players I've gotten destroyed mentally and physically multiple games in a row up against players with way more experience than me just to que again and be the experienced player with a lobby full of lvl 0 neith players the matchmaking is way too out of line I hop on the game to either go 30 and 1 or 0 and 10 the worst part is that I'm a support main aswell it sometimes ends up going me trying to defend my lvl 0 neith and titan against the 5 way more experienced and better players than me it's not fun but I still find myself hoping on everyday

similar case for west-coast servers, i don't usually like to complain about matchmaking but it is actually absurd the amount of brand new players thatre getting in games with me and 3k+ hour friends

I agree, i think algorithm is based on making matches fast, but i think modes like joust have issues where you cant find a balanced match after 5 minutes, so maybe if they make the algorithm stricter it affects most or all of the modes and that makes conquest queues go from 20 seconds to maybe a minute or two but could take stuff like joust to 15+

@aplezorah

5 ай бұрын

Idk just theorizing. But I think there's def an issue with the way it reads peoples mmr you aren't crazy

I've noticed each team tends to have 1 person who stomps and is way better than the rest of the team. I don't think this would be too much of an issue IF they are in the same role, but that never happens, it's usually the enemy team has the best player in jungle or mid and your team has that player in support. A month or so ago I scraped my recent game data from smite guru and was surprised to find that I actually won more against premades than I lost. I should do it again to see if that changed recently since I have been on the worlds biggest losing streak.

@calebowens693

5 ай бұрын

I've seen the inverse of that quite a bit. Often, there is one player who is significantly worse than the other 9 and their team loses because of it. When I realize who it is early enough (assuming they're on the other team), I get really fed from farming the war crime against matchmaking.

@ramsay5738

5 ай бұрын

100% agree, i play solo and win my lane pretty much every game, i get every totem and shit on the enemy solo. Nothing else i can do except secure objectives but even then my team don’t understand that i am the only reason they win each team-fight and then engage without me and get clapped and lose

As a causal aram player, this is warrant. I had aram match that was almost 40 minutes because our Jourmunder kept running it down and the rest of us were high damage which kept the game going

One time I was 2900 mmr in ranked joust and duo queued. Our third was a silver 3 player with 1200 mmr who didn't believe we were in a masters game. And the enemy team was a full masters stack.

I completely agree with you, and you're only addressing Ranked matchmaking. Which is honestly A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT BETTER than the casual Elo system. It might sound a little prickish, but I really feel like they should divide the player base by overall account level. Then scale everybody by skill. Obviously that wouldn't really work for ranked, but it would at least make casual matches less frustrating.

@digiomegamon

5 ай бұрын

Ajax has posted on reddit saying there is no difference in matchmaking on ranked and casual matchmaking. Only that one is known to players and the other isn't. IMO, please don't factor in account levels. I know too many horrible 160+ players that should not be in my lobbies.

@AmericanIlluminati

5 ай бұрын

@@digiomegamon Yea, I don't believe Ajax whatsoever, because my casual lobbies tend to be all over the place. Sometimes they're really intense with all high skill players, sometimes it's unbalanced where one team is clearly a bunch of noobs vs elites, and other times it's like 1 or 2 vets & the rest of the lobby is noobs/Vice Versa. My ranked matches are generally consistent. I can kinda expect what I'm getting into when I load a match. Casual is a box of chocolates every time. In my system you'd rarely be matched with bad players. 80- or maybe 90- are all grouped together. 91+ are grouped together, and then the Elo system groups low skill players with other low skill player etc. etc. So, the people in your lobby would be a reflection of where you actually stand in the game. Besides, I'd rather be teamed with a bad 160+ player than some random level 30 who hasn't even unlocked half the roster, and is still learning mechanics & game sense. My teammate missing abilities is far less stressful than my teammate wandering the map LOST on where they should be, or what they should be doing.

@BestGeb

5 ай бұрын

Youre wrong. He's showing a casual game. The thana is in a patry of 3 which isnt allowed in ranked conquest.

@AmericanIlluminati

5 ай бұрын

@@BestGeb He used the word "MMR" which refers to someone's rank in Ranked mode. If he was talking about casuals, he would have said "Elo", which is a similar, but hidden system, specific to casuals. Idk what match he's referring to, but I know what he said.

On a side note; Predecessor beta has been out on PS5 for a while now. I know a little less then 15 people who used to play Smite daily. None of us have touched smite since it's release.

I’ve noticed that Solo queue is broken right now, like you have to pair with someone in order to get a more fair game. I solo queued fill in casual conquest and got Guardian, yet some how I ended up going 12-4 and went full damage after 25 minutes because my adc left after losing a 1v1

It’s also cause the Thanatos, Ratatoskr, hades were in a party the matchmaking gets an aneurism with ppl in a party and thinks because they are in a party they have so much more of an advantage and would be matched up against more difficult players

this is part of why I don't play much. I'm not a bad player by any means, but I am also not a regular so I'm not particularly skilled. The number of matches I lose where it feels like I never had a chance? kinda soul crushing. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say I have lost well over 15 games in a row numerous times, granted at least half of those I did fine... It's the other half that gets me, where I'm bloody 0/0/20 or some similarly ludicrous set of numbers. My worst role is ADC, and yet I kept trying to practice and get better at it.. almost every match got me yelled at, and AI practice doesn't help for shit. If I played more often I'm sure I would get better, but when your months results are roughly 40+ losses and maybe 12 wins? You tend to walk away for a good long while, because at that point it just isn't fun.

yeah, it has been absolute hell for my party to play matches. and honestly? the matchmaking for us has been bad for more than the last month- we have won maybe less than 10 games in the last three months, where we are playing at least 5 matches per week, at most maybe 10. we started checking the enemy account levels just to see what was happening and what do you know? we are getting put up against 110+ people near exclusively, when our level spread is 80-100. and all but one of us are in 80 or low to mid 90s. the only games we won was because the enemy had a new player or two with them. just the other day we got a win, and the reason was due to a level 20ish (cant recall exact level) player. that was something that should have never happened. it has gotten to the point where we dont really want to play anymore as at this point. 4 of the party has been playing since 2017 and it is beyond demoralizing to be put into matches where we know that we will loose no matter what we do. its very depressing.

Been having the same thing with games, lower rabked players on my team but also level 100+ and they don't remember that anti-heal and soul reaver/qins exist since they dint build them half the time and not to mention the amount of times ive seen people under rank 5 playing on the same team as me and everyone refuses to F6.

Every two games recently I have had teammates who rage quit when the game is still perfectly winnable, note this is even when we are winning sometimes. Plus for some reason Smite match making likes to put the people who haven’t played long enough to play ranked into a match with players who have easily over 1,000 hours, they of course are on my team. It has felt like it is getting worse than usual recently but maybe the new season will bring back enough players for it to at the very least be a little more bearable.

Since we're all venting I had a chaac die to tower 10 seconds before camps spawned. It tok me a second to even process that it was my teammate so i pulled speed to backs, he ran past them to pull blue so i almost died (thankfully lived with like 50hp). Then he proceeded to die 5 times in a row and built deaths toll and aa items.

Been saying this for years! The minimum to play in Ranked is WAY too low.

Stuff like this happen to me way too often. Not just now but always did. I am lvl 120+ or something (admittedly still pretty bad) and the game gives me lvl 50 or under in my team while the enemy teams gets high lvl players with masters loading frames or something. So frustrating.

@TheEdanLoki

4 ай бұрын

I literraly make my first game in jungle against 1000+ hours players, got decimated and insulted by my mates

Almost the exact same experience on my end, though I'm speaking strictly for casual conq. Ever since Christmas and especially for the last 2 weeks or so my matchmaking experience on EU has been utterly horrendous. But it is so difficult for me to understand how this is possible; the matchmaking queue takes only like 30seconds. In what universe would I rather not wait like 5 whole minutes on the match queue to get an even game instead of a 30s queue and a 10min-20min circus? My absolute favourite has been a game where the teams were "balanced" so that the enemy team had 4 masters/grandmasters players and one person playing conquest for the first time against platinum/gold/unranked players on my team. And no, the first timer was not in a party with any of the other players. I'm almost starting to think I should just start playing ranked in hopes of better matchmaking.

It’s so inconsistent. Last week I was playing with actual bots and two of games had rage quitters but this week, I am on a 5 games win streak on ranked and jumped from Plat 5 to Plat 2. It honestly feels better than last season for me, even tho I reached diamond last season, but it’s just not consistently good.

Blur is a non-dstructive technique,, and isn't an effetive censor. Also, anyone using similar history functions can reverse search the opposing team names. I'm not gonna harp on a guy just trying to queue with his higher level friends; I just want to point out that information obfuscation can be done a fair bit better.

Yeah it’s more about the lack of people playing right now at the end of the year. My plat ranked games have been filled with baby’s first ranked game players, but that typically happens around this time…

There really arent any fixes that can make people happy. Having it be based on level makes ALOT of issues happen.

I have noticed this too. It is crazy to get matched with brand new players.

I agree, the matcg making has been very strange latley, i've notice a big gap of skill in my team, where 1 out of 3 or 1 out of 5 players clearly shouldnt be playing with the rest, the games end up super one sided becouse the "noob" picks the carry role and the total damage output of the team is very small.

I lost my old account and started playing again a couple of days ago. The last time I played was when Kululkan was still named Ao Kuang. After 4 matches I was thrown into games with people who had their gods at diamond. I literally have one god mastered rn. I would love to get back into the game but right now I'm not sure whether I will continue trying. It's not a nice feeling to be a burden for your teammates.

Ive got ppl locking in, building tier 2 myrdin first item, not knowing what to do, running in and dying every 5 mins. And its every game.

Nah man. I’m sick of going like 15-6 as adc and losing to one thing or another. Lag, DC, bad players, players having a bad game, bad matchmaking, smurfs, bad pick/ban, players getting roles they aren’t good at and not even bothering to try and trade, losing one fight which results in us losing the entire game after having a huge ass lead. The list can go on forever. Actually player-borne RNG 😂 I agree with Intersect here that the matchmaking system, especially in lower pop servers, is really bad. Played several mid lvl diamond matches where I had two silver players and one gold. After looking into their stats further I concluded that matchmaking fucked them over and the other diamond player on the team. It feels as if Hi-Rez made a decision to put players into your matches that, by most accounts, should not be there; Solely to make sure that a game/match can be played. For example, hypothetically, A master player getting qued with platinum players or maybe even lower just so that when the que pops there’s actually a match to be played. Low server pop combined with not enough players in the higher ranks seems to cause this from my experience. I remember watching GM and masters player having to wait 20+ minute ques just to get a match because there wasn’t enough players near their rank to get a full game (dodgers and skipping aside).

I hit at least plat for the last 5 years of smite at least and sometimes high dimond too, we actualy played together a few matches but this year i barely hit plat 4-5 than got to gold and stayed there the whole year. The amount of trolls and new players that shut down my winning streak was overvwelming....the constant shift in meta was radical and the comeback mecanic and bounty made the 1-6 enemy equal to 6-1 me in 1 kill sometimes....one of the worst and less fun year for me sadly...

I honestly thought it was just.... me having "bad days" since the start of this year. Im usually pretty good with "bouncing back" from... well this sort of thing. I haven't said "Am I this bad?" so frequently, and with all the truth I've ever had in my heart, practically ever. It felt like I was starting from Beta/S1 again with 0 clue on how to play on gods i should know how to play on a highly mechanical level. I streamed the other day and the people I met have consistently said that Its not just me. but it feels like it should be to justify my bewilderment. Glad to know Im not alone on this, I played this vid on loop, I agree on this fully. I'm an average player. not godly or anything, but I'm constantly being paired with persons on the GM level of play. *and i know dang well I'm not supposed to be there*.

I mostly play Joust, almost entirely actually. My buddies and I picked the game up a few months ago and we were killing it. At least we thought we were. When we jumped in Ranked, we were immediately matched up with 2 masters. We also saw Masters in Ranked after getting clapped 12 games in a row and our MMR around 800. The MMR isn't bad, its nonexistent. Maybe its just ranked joust; I don't know

I’ve been trying to grind ranked joust. My boys and I are trying to get out of just gold and no joke or exaggeration. We are queuing into a team of master/diamond players at least 50% of the time. We manage to win occasionally against them but when we do. It doesn’t matter hardly get any TP/Rating for winning. We are currently 18-12 since reset and those 12 Ls were almost all masters players.

I've been posting about this on twitter for a while but I never get anyone to say shit about it. I haven't played in like 2 months now, but this shit happens all the time in brazilian servers. I always thought it was for the lack of players, but the thing is that matches sometimes take less than a minute to form, so the system is not even taking its time to create a good match. Hopefully with you reporting about it it gets more visibility and they do something about the matchmaker for next season.

Realistically I think they just don't really care about Smite one as much anymore with Smite two on the horizon

Games have actually been unwinable and they usually always end in a f6 on either side. Some people really don’t know how to play the game (ok sure we can deal with that), no grouping, buying Obow first item and then flaming the rest of the team that their getting stomped, etc. I’m all for new players coming in but damn the algorithm doesn’t help them to learn anything about how to start playing or what to build properly or try builds out.

The real problem is the conquest map constantly changing new buffs being introduced every few months or taken away you cant keep up as a casual player conquest use to be so simple now its a full time job just to win and know the constantly rotating meta

Ive been having a slightly different type of unwinnable game lately. Ive had multiple people per day DC as soon as the game starts so i think the player count is low enough to where its even sacrificing connection quality to make matches happen. Btw I mostly play joust which is probably also having a huge impact on the matchmaking pool

The amount of times I get queued against diamond and masters players is absolutely infuriating. I’ve literally never even been ranked. Meanwhile I always get stuck with atleast one teammate who feeds their brains out every game. And I mean every single game. Matchmaking is actually broken.

Might be just that... I've had a rough patch too. It's almost always onesided and seems that I've been getting more people that go 2/13 in my team then enemies. Been getting 5 stack enemies a lot too. But I made a break for a month or so so my MMR might be garbo rn. Kinda boring that the only constant that I'm getting is me being the best player in my team, and I'm not even good as you say... I'm average with my 51% WR.

Ive had numerous times lately in joust(casual) matches where we are stomping the other team and my teammates f6 immediately at the 10 min mark. Maybe i'm missing something, is there a pity surrender thing that is super popular rn?

You're right that it's not fun for anyone, and I want to say it wouldn't have been fun for thana either. The video is very heavy that matchmaking was bad for you, and I know from experience it was bad for him too. So I agree, and justice for the little guys here who don't get a chance and a fair game.

Also when I get games like this I assume it’s just someone who’s drunk or on a Smurf that popped off in low ranks and now is getting slotted back to a middle ground it could also be that he played with friends that high of rank and now his casual mmr is that high bc his friends were stomping which then put him into ur game solo queuing

My games recently have been ridiculously strange in terms of quality. Some matches are great and i get very strong players on either side and i actually lose a lane or i get diffed in teamfights! And then most are... me picking Maui, displacing someone for an eon and a half, body blocking for 6 total tower shots, and my account level 21 Kuku "adc" that doesnt know the start, or what any items do, or how conquest really works, is just sort of staring at them blankly. It cant feel good for the newer players either, with all these people playing well and youre just really confused and being laugh spammed by 9 people as you clear a camp less efficiently than most people, it must feel like THE most hostile environment.

I swear it is, the competitive aspect in ranked has dropped exponentially, every game there is either a troll, someone who seems to have just installed smite, or rage quitters.

What is the app or program he uses to see those stats?

My issue with matching is that it seems like I will win 4 out of 5 games on one day. Then the next lose 4 out of five with only one game a day being competitive.

Match making has felt pretty shit all year honestly. 7000 hours in smite and I’m no adapting or anything but these smite matches have left me feeling brain dead

Funnily enough similar situation just happened to me Me and a buddy queued together, he's XBOX I'm PS4 and we're roughly mid-high Plat in skill level...we then proceed to go 4 games in a row where we swear we are getting people who don't understand the game and it's literally a 2v5 for 4 games in a row

Mt first ranked game of site I was playing with a friend who was also playing ranked for the first time and a random that was a similar skill level. We got paired against a full team at diamond+

Casual modes are unplayable solo. Idk what is going on.

i was wondeering how i get in this lobbys, where everyone is trash.the best thing i could do was at least startet playing weird picks like persephone support or loki adc XD. its okay for a while but im startet to get more and more frustrating

ngl every year I'm still surprised how Smite is still alive. I pop in now and then and every time the queue gets worst and worst even on Arena

I had just taken a break from smite for the last couple updates and came back a few nights ago, and in my warm up game I popped off and got called a Smurf in post game. It made me feel good about myself at first, but yeah I probably shouldn’t be top of a lobby in my first warm up game after taking months off the game

@troy3423

5 ай бұрын

Then you will wait 30 mins for a good game. I know the frustration though

@calebowens693

5 ай бұрын

If you're gone for a bit, it seems to heavily lower your ELO (it doesn't have the same reset on splits as MMR). I was in a bad car accident a few years ago and was offline for about 6 weeks. When I came back, matchmaking was all over the place.

I've never seen matches so unbalanced as the last few weeks. I'll duo queue and we'll be somewhere around 2200-2500 MMR and we will consistently, EVERY GAME, get paired with 1600-1700 gold players, while the other team gets masters and diamonds. And ofc their masters player at 3k MMR is in lane with my gold 1600, who proceeds to die 5 times in just as many minutes. And now the masters player is 4 levels up and rotating to other lanes and my teammates don't know what to do. And I think the worst part is the hit on the mental. The lower players feel like they're getting pub stomped, so then they just give up and sit in base and refuse to surrender bc we suggested they try buying a starter item... but now everyone else on the team is to blame

The matchmaking is awful. I often get one to two players that average one death a minute. I see players not building items more than I'd like. Way to many people that don't know or don't care about team composition. People picking a character in the last couple seconds is a common occurrence. All these new / bad players should be playing together. Some skill should be taken into consideration when matchmaking.

Nah man, i agree. ive gone from 3k mmr to 2600 and back and forth and back and forth. earlier in this year and even this split, it was much better and i was averaging just over 50 winrate in 2900+ lobbies. now i think lately im at alike 2700 with maybe a 45 win rate. it sucks but like you said this is the time it always happens, just gotta fight through ig

idk if im with bad people or people that are just new. i dont really check for players game time and level etc. mainly because i dont know how and it wouldnt add anything or change anything. But to answer the question: YES ive been havving such annoying games with teammates that are 9/10 so mispositioned, dont communicate, dont listen to communications etc.

I came back to this game after a year off. This matchmaking is absolutely awful. First time i ever felt like a game is actually unplayable.

That explains some weird slash games i had

It's godawful I get paired up with new players any other time of day BUT whenever it's 3x all the loser gm's crawl outta the woodwork to make me play for my life

Yeah I have been noticing this, it makes the game boring because the game is unwinnable if the noob is on your team but boring if they are on the other team they need to fix this

If Smite matchmaking is going to do this then they need to let us 5 man queue ranked again. Only playing with one other person and 3 randoms is insane. I've lost count of how many games that ended in an L because someone either AFKs, VGS spams, or intentionally feeds because they're mad at the randoms. My block list is growing by about 3-5 every day with these people.

I would have to say the matchmaking went from ok where you could go on a winning streak where it was a challenge to games that you know your going to lose within 5 minutes of the match. Unless the enemy team messes up while trying to push for the end. I think this season I have had more trolls in ranked conq than any other season once they reach masters. I know at one point I had a masters player in my match who had 75MMR while my buddy and I were pushing 2300mmr from all the losses I have experienced I am now down to 1900.

My first ranked Duel was against a gold player. I was at level 30. His level was 168 ...

I wanna bring up a point I haven't seen anywhere, what's with the amount of people dodging queue rn? I average 2-3 dodges per queue it's insane

I played slash and a Kukulkan level 1 rage quited off the match. Im level 158 when that match happened. HI-REZZZZ?

At some point HiRez put up an option for players to rate the matchmaking in the end lobby. Is it still there? Does/did anyone ever use that function? That Thana and Hades were partied up with the high-level Ratatoskr. There was no way these three friends could ever get a balanced match... I'm lv 148 or so, guesstimately averagely ass skill, and often get fresh lv30 players / partied noobs with no borders in my matches. But that's because I'm a casual scrub mode main. I'm used to it.

as a level 215 main i can agree i do get paired a lot with new players who proceed to get owned by the enemy but for me its mainly getting put with new players into 5 man comps of players around my level. But this isnt new really i stopped playing ranked joust bc due to cap mmr u get paired with two bronze or silvers against 3 gms but you dont lose any mmr bc of the bronzes so the enemy team didnt gain anything even tho im cap and the game is over before10 mins so nobody has fun here bc the enemy are the only ones who can lose anything from this game. But even when i play conq ranked i always see gm and masters even tho its my first game of the season but on conq i noticed the higher your mmr the worse games you got. Good luck all and lets hope for a better year

We got put in a game with very high mmr players when grouping up with ONE player that was diamond rank in our party. one of our friends playing with us is still fresh to the game so the people it paired us up with made no sense at all.

Not sure if you'll see this message but, I deadass have a losing streak of 8 as of making this message, crazy part is I wasn't playing at like midnight, I was playing in the middle of the day, and once again it wasn't like I was playing like hot garbage (I'm an amateur at best) I just genuinely got unlucky with matchmaking.

I had a nieth ADC get teleport eye if the jungle rush titans bane then all crit items she went 3 and 15

Hey atleast you got to play a full game, I tried playing three games last night and all three were the same thing, first we had someone pick neith support, flame us for not switching and then DCing before the game started, 5 minutes surrender. Next game, 2 people on the other team and 1 person on my team left by 10 minutes, enemy team surrendered, final game, 3 people on the other team left before 5 minutes after getting ganked once each by me, 3 people by 5 minutes, enemy team surrenders.

Intersect , just a word just so u know. Blurring is a reversible procedure so if someone really wanted ( I don't care enough to do it but its easy enough) could actually see the names. Just paint over them don't blur them

I've stopped playing conquest because my team, no matter how bad the games are going, never want to surrender so im stuck in 30-45 minute games where neither side is making any pushes. I don't get why the matchmaking is so bad.

I let it slide in casuals. I understand wanting to win but after playing this game for over 5 years I don't really mind losing anymore. That obsession with being the best died long ago. I'm content with my skills and I try to help other but I also understand the level of toxicity that some people harbor. Best thing could say is if someone is being toxic just dont respond to them, most just want to vent thier frustrations on who ever they see weakness. Be bold and have fun

This literally JUST HAPPENED TO ME AND MY friend last night. We had 3 teammates low levels. The whole enemy team were over 100 hrs!