Is Putin’s invasion motivated by money? | Bill Browder
“He knew that the leverage we had over him was his foreign money… Putin is a crook. He's a criminal, and his regime is a criminal regime.”
Political activist and author Bill Browder talks to Hugo Rifkind on Times Radio about Putin’s motivations for invading Ukraine.
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Wonderful interview, thank you both
Browder understand our foe better than most. He is been persecuted and chased from pillar to pole and from hither and thither. He also understand Russia better than most. Thanks!
@leolennox1209
2 жыл бұрын
Russia is not our foe. Nor is Iran. Nor is Syria et. etc..
@philipmain5701
Жыл бұрын
@@leolennox1209 I do not know your nationality hence I do not know your culture - the autocratic murderous regimes of Russia, Iran, Syria, etc. are definitely the adversaries of democratic Nations that support free will, self expression etc, etc. Your comment is deeply flawed.
@sukhmaidickoff
10 ай бұрын
@@philipmain5701 He´s probably just another Russian bot. You are totally right. Russia´s only friends are pariah states, states with a TOTAL lack of democracy, states with absolutly no respect towards human rights, states where human lives don´t seem to have a very high value
Corruption has been built into the system for generations. Paranoia and isolation are part of self preservation and a way of life.
@djdoolittle1315
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Human race of disgrace 😔☝️
@awpetersen5909
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting psychological View.
All Pootang money and his mates money should be handed over to Ukraine to rebuild
@leolennox1209
2 жыл бұрын
No evidence has surface of Putin taking money. If you know otherwise pleas post a link. The Pandora Papers did reveal Zelensky's wife having assets in offshore secret companies. Zelensky thus has funds and a safe haven in Israel to live off it, should he decide to do the right thing.
A brave man. Hope he keeps safe.
@ahmedhassan-hl1qw
2 жыл бұрын
He is safe at America
@ennediend2865
2 жыл бұрын
God bless this guy , only in America can he be safe from Putin's assassins !!
Times Radio could not get a better interview than Bill Browder.Well done Times!
Nice work Bill, love your work..
Putin has done lots of harm around world times for him to go.
@juliettataylor8888
2 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right
@fuckbankers
2 жыл бұрын
Could be said for a few people.
@justice2375
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the right to condemn Russians? Who bombed Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan...? Who hid the genocide in the Donbas for 8 years? Who has been "pumping" Ukraine with lethal weapons in recent years? Who turned a blind eye to fascist units in Ukraine? Who applauded the drug addict Zelensky, who said he wanted to create an atomic bomb? Who placed 30 biological laboratories in Ukraine to create biological weapons? Who created 10 NATO military bases in Ukraine? Why has Ukraine concentrated 150,000 soldiers on the border with Donbass? Who and why staged provocations in the cities of Bucha, Kramatorsk and is preparing new ones? Who blocked the Russian media and why? If you can think, answer yourself! Back in 2008, Putin warned NATO not to approach Russia's borders. But then they laughed at him. Putin, in order to resolve the conflict in the Donbas, proposed the "Minsk Agreements", which were not implemented by Ukraine. The media zombies you every day, even the presidents believe them… This is a war of two civilizations, Evil and Good! No one in the world doubts that the Russians will win! You shouldn't have woken up the Russian bear... This is your sunset. P.S. Think about why Russians are forbidden to show the act of the death of Ukrainian soldiers?
@philiphorner31
2 жыл бұрын
Sooner than later.
@leolennox1209
2 жыл бұрын
One of his main objectives is to bring to an end Zelensky's military killing the people of Donbas (with NATO weapons). Donbas can then vote for independence, not joining Russia. Democracy or not-democracy.
use putins overseas funds to buy equipment for ukraine
@iandhr1
2 жыл бұрын
Good idea.
@rosemaryspiota9836
2 жыл бұрын
Already you have stolen $300 billion. Ukraine is drowning in debt and weapons. Is this helping its people???
I think that in view of his outstanding contributions, Mr William Browder ought to be Knighted. If there was some form of Victoria Cross award for valour in the domain in which he engages, he ought also to receive it along with his Knighthood.
@paulmcgrory5165
2 жыл бұрын
Why not? Browder made over $1.5 billion in Russia and never paid any taxes either in Russia or the United States. He contributed $400,000,000, to the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Where is the money Bill?
@garyrumsby3330
2 жыл бұрын
You obviously don't know about the Victoria cross
@brendansparks1511
2 жыл бұрын
@@garyrumsby3330 Perhaps he was speaking metaphorically.
@leolennox1209
2 жыл бұрын
Browder is a convicted criminal and wanted for questioning on other issues. Forget about him being awarded. However he is British (and Israeli) but has renounced citizenship of his country of birth.
@corinnem.239
2 жыл бұрын
Bill Browder does this work to expose Putin because his good friend & lawyer Magnyski (sic) was brutally murdered by Putin. He wants to t ell the truth & bring Putin to justice. He escaped Russia just in time, but the lawyer friend did the right thing and paid fir it with torture ( to recant & accuse him) & death in prison. He needs to unite with Navalny's group & affect change in Russia for Medavinski (sic).
just take all their (stolen) money, and that of his band and cronies,and family to rebuild Ukraine, thousand times better!!
@peterdul3876
2 жыл бұрын
are you referring to Mr Browder?
Greed, land grabs and money and staying in power at all costs with no thought for anyone including his own Russian people who will have their freedoms curbed more and more.
@bigglesbiggles4999
2 жыл бұрын
The everyday Russian has no freedom
To my mind the biggest single factor in starting the war against Ukraine (though not the only one) is that Ukraine was too close to being able to join the EU. Image that you are a repressive autocratic regime with a 'poorer' neighbour that has massive untapped mineral and energy wealth. That neighbour is also closely socially connected with your own country. If Ukraine joined the EU then the gas fields which have big pipeline already running through them become available for western European energy companies to tap and sell huge amounts of gas within the EU trading environment. An absolute gold mine and it would cost the Russian treasury up to $100 Billion per year (more than their actual military budget) if Ukraine stole their European market. Also consider your poor cousins that you have looked down upon for generations, transforming into a more successful, richer, democratic, integrated nation where the Russian half of every Ukrainian/Russian mixed boarder family (and there are hundreds of thousands of them) starts to wonder why the Ukrainian joke hicks are suddenly comparatively wealthy and happy. You will have a lot of internal dissent brewing as well as a big hole in the budget. Answer war. If you look at the recent history of Ukraine, all of this kicked off in 2013 not from NATO (that's just another excuse), but from closer movement to the EU and the Russian resistance to it.
@lilymargaret447
2 жыл бұрын
SO excellently said, Julian. I am going to keep this comment. Thank you, Lily.
@leolennox1209
2 жыл бұрын
To my mind the biggest factor was Zelensky continuing to have the military crush the Donbas self-determination movement where 14,000 were killed over 8 years - mostly ethnic Russians. The trigger for the Donbas uprising was indeed the US overthrow of president Yanokovich, elected mainly by Eastern Ukrainians, who rebuffed NATO/EU in favour of Russia.
@Dicktator11
2 жыл бұрын
@@leolennox1209 yeah sure, because putin is all about saving people instead of following geopolitical interests.
@julianbailey2749
2 жыл бұрын
@@leolennox1209 I don't think that Putin gives a flying frig about Russians wherever they are living. If Putin cared about Russians then he would not allowed for the plunder of over $1 trillion by him and his cronies over the last 20 years from the wealth of the Russian people. All Putin cares about is his money and his personal security. If Putin really cared about Russian speakers in the Ukraine then he could have acted 6+ years ago when the Ukrainian army was still weak and taking Donbas would have been a cakewalk. As it is, he waited till Ukraine was ready to join the EU before acting.
@leolennox1209
2 жыл бұрын
@@julianbailey2749 If Putin's administration is not gravely concerned about the treat from NATO it is not performing its most important duty. NATO countries media and governments have been openly hostile to Russia for a couple of decades. In addition the military threat is getting closer to Russia's border. Put the two together and you have the modern day version of the Cuban missile crisis. Putin had to put a stop to it before it is too late.
If this channel was online two years ago, GB News wouldn't exist now! Keep up the top content and don't ever let it slip!
@oisnowy5368
2 жыл бұрын
I have my doubts; the GB News audience would not be interested in this channel. They would not be interested in anything challenging their worldview. Still... you cannot spell KGB without GB.
@dano2760
2 жыл бұрын
I think you profoundly misunderstand the conservative opposition in the UK.
@Auriflamme
2 жыл бұрын
GB News is an irrelevancy at this point. Farage would pull in as many viewers just by hosting his own podcast and make more money since he could negotiate his own sponsorship and not have to worry about Ofcom. The GB News channel as a whole is just a shell around him.
Money is the root of all evil and Putin epitomises this to a tee.
@Fonzleberry
2 жыл бұрын
This is such reductionist bs. Money is the foundation for our entire society, it's thanks to the easy exchange of commerce that we've scraped ourselves out of the dirt and into the 21st century. But yes, Putin's avarice and megalomania have brought us to where we are today.
@888strummer
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think this guy is totally right. I think it's a combo of Putin being a career criminal and robbing Russia but also Putin wanting to bring back the old Soviet Union
@jf7243
2 жыл бұрын
You misquote the Bible methinks, the love of money is the root of all evil. Money itself is neutral, it is the human heart that remains the problem.
@Mivoat
2 жыл бұрын
@@jf7243 For heart read desperate scramble to survive. Unfortunately, in the case of humans it’s not survival in body, but survival of an ego, and some egos are big. In the end it comes down to survival of ‘being right’.
@jf7243
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mivoat methinks you speak some truth. In the end, we hope, pray and trust that, in the end, truth and righteousness shall prevail. It matters that good men stand fast, and do the right thing.
There are two addictions that are limitless; money and dames. These are limitless. If Vlady has $25 million and Joe has $29 million, then Vlady can’t rest until he has more!
Yes he is plain greedy and evil
Finally an interviewer intelligent enough to say the book's title properly.
@jonhelmer8591
2 жыл бұрын
I'm reading the book now, what's the correct/incorrect pronunciation/intonation to use? I've been speaking English for about 60 years and I like to think I'm reasonably fluent.
@kleinpca
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonhelmer8591 What many say is freezing ORDer. As opposed to FREEzing order.
@Auriflamme
2 жыл бұрын
Wow he slightly stumbled over a word while broadcasting and you believe that makes him unintelligent. I am glad I do not know you personally since I'd expect a tongue lashing every time I made a minor error of speech production. I'm sure you've never stumbled over a word though, or misspoken or had brain freeze while speaking on national radio, so you are eminently qualified to pass judgment.
@kleinpca
2 жыл бұрын
@@Auriflamme But he didn't stumble! I was praising him for getting it right!
@leolennox1209
2 жыл бұрын
The interviewer demonstrated a lack of intelligence right at the start by saying that Browder's lawyer Magnitsky was murdered. He was not a lawyer. He was not murdered.
And don't forget that, by seizing Ukraine and other areas, Russia controls more resources & wealth. Ukraine is one of the world's major foodstuffs "bread baskets." The Soviet Union also built it's biggest ships in Ukraine, not in Russia. Case in point was the cruiser MOSKVA,... Ukrainian-built. Ukraine also designs and manufactures high quality weaponry that, in Soviet times, strengthened the USSR's armed forces. And Ukraine's access to the Black Sea remains a focus of Russia's jealousy, just as it was when Russian Empress Catharine the Great first drove Russia to its shores. Failure to get Ukraine will further impoverish the Russian (i.e., Putin's) treasury.
@leolennox1209
2 жыл бұрын
Russia is not going to seize Ukraine. This is not Israel/Palestine. The US did not seize Iraq. The big powers conduct "operations" or "special operations". (However, I suspect that the Donbas republics will become independent with security guarantees from Russia and that Putin will encourage south eastern Ukraine to seek autonomy too.)
he is! he wants the oil and gas and monopolies over EU gas and energy.
@cheebacheeo5876
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they want the Antarctica aswel. Well so does many countries. But russia has approached it quite bold.
@MsMusicbox6
2 жыл бұрын
@@cheebacheeo5876 Getting too close to where I live, maybe not so easy!
@cheebacheeo5876
2 жыл бұрын
@@MsMusicbox6 👍
His most important IR point is….miscalculation…both sides did it differently..,but they all miscalculated….even China…Pakistan, India..etc
Bill Browder just ordered your book ,Im an Australian
I’m betting all Russian elite athletes directly benefited as well
Fascinating.
All these billionaire are they happy in there lives I say no looking over your shoulder all your life this isn't a life when are we ever learning this truth.
Awesome thanks
WEALTH DOESN’T FASCINATE Putin. GREED OF ABSOLUTE POWER. Power follows money. HIS HANDS FULL OF BLOOD IS EMPTY OF POWER ONE DAY.
Great guy
Power and money.
❤️Ukrainian…🇬🇪
Which of the mega yachts is his? Lots have headed to sunny Vladivostok! 😂 Some haven’t quite made it. MY Amadea fled through the Panama Canal, then on an epic leg for a luxury yacht, made it to Fiji hoping to refuel for the final leg. It is now detained there while the authorities try to dig down to the beneficial owner.
@jacqdanieles
2 жыл бұрын
It should "accidentally" catch fire.
The war is all about the huge Yuzivska shale gas deposit in the Donbas (1.09 - 4 trillion metric metres of shale gas) - the second-largest shale gas deposit in Europe. The EU was interested in buying gas from Ukraine in order to diversify its suppliers and cut dependence on Russian gas. Ukraine has extensive gas storage facilities and pipelines, close to the EU, and such an arrangement would make a large dent in Gazprom's (Putin's) profits. Similarly, Crimea has large offshore gas deposits that Putin wanted. This war is all about Putin's Gazprom profits. That's why they are pulling back to defend Donbas. That's why Russia was funding the “separatists."
This is why the infrastructure in Russia is in very poor condition. Massive poverty among the older generation. Just what could be done with the return of stolen funds.. Bricks and mortar, floating gluttony abound..
YES
Explains why Trump was so chummy with Putin.
@zeromodulus1679
2 жыл бұрын
Trump has likely been involved in Russian money laundering with his casinos.
Freeze Order such a good book
Is the free download of Freezing Order in Russian available yet?
Not everyone has the same motives Bill!
I'd like to get his book. Is it available online?
Is the sky blue?
hahaha, Putin has nowhere to spend his misbegotten gains.
I'm assuming next interview is Julian Assange?
@fuckbankers
2 жыл бұрын
One minute the media loves him the next moment they allow him to be sacrificed.
That sounds like China to.
It's money of course...what else.
If you see the speck in Putin's eye , why don't you see the beams in the eyes of other leaders?
Of course, isn't there are tonne of natural gas and oil in the black sea? Also doesn't Putin have a palace near there somewhere, in Russia?
@MsMusicbox6
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, hope he runs out of time to sleep there, and float around in one or more of his floating palaces as well. What an improvement for the very poor folk could be had if the riches were returned. At least these folk could maybe reach poverty level.. I dare say the leader is telling everyone to tighten spending so as to arm for "war". Disgusting..
All politics is motivated by money!
It's a black box war chest.
No sound
I read Bill's RED NOTICE and it was exciting, like a thriller, too. Follow the money is not a bad way to go when trying to understand anything in politics, particularly when the politician in question has accumulated as much as Putin has. I remember reading one article a while back that mentioned when Putin started out in politics, his thinking was that $15M would be enough to secure through the gray area of his work for government. Speculation is that he thought it would be enough for his future, but not enough to get him in trouble. But like most wealthy people, no amount is enough. And of course, becoming President, the sky is the limit. While starting a war is classic for a country's leader to hold power or popularity, given that this war isn't going as planned, including the severity of the sanctions, I'm worried that Putin will see his alternative as destroying Ukraine and the planet with nuclear war. For this reason, I'm especially interested in Russia's nuclear protocols, any checks and balances that are in place to stop Putin from doing it. Because of one false alarm during Soviet times, it is known then the procedure involved about three of four people making the call, all who had to be "for" nuclear retaliation, and none against. The guy on the tech level, looking at the radar, said "no" while it is believed the others above him were a yes. He is a Russian hero today. But what is it like now? Is there any reason to believe Putin is not the only no or yes that matters on the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine?
@fredlindberg
2 жыл бұрын
If you liked Red Notice, you'll love Freezing Order. A bit of rehash in the beginning, but then new material with the same clear and compelling narrative.
@corinnem.239
2 жыл бұрын
Putin will ignore those in favor of whatever he wants. Pray.
@corinnem.239
2 жыл бұрын
Its probable Putin WILL use a tactical nuke on the Eastern border areas of upper Ukraine. The winds blow Wast into Europe not Russia so he can spoil land to make a buffer zone fir Russia & blow radiation West to Poland and the rest of europe. He is HIGHLY LIKELY to use a tactical nuke in Mariupol to exterminate the rest of the Ukrainian civilians there. HIGHLY LIKELY !!
LET'S GO PHOO' TIN!!!!
"The most dangerous weapon in the galaxy is money, captain" - Duchess Satine from star wars the clone wars S3E05
Russia's doctrine "reserving the right to use defensive nuclear weapons" should not apply. Russia is the aggressor, they have invaded a non-nuclear country, forcing them into the defensive. So in essence, if the defending country fights back successfully, they can or will be subjected to their nuclear arsenal. Based on this criteria, any nuclear power could invade any non-nuclear power so long as they don't turn the tables. As a result of this "can't lose" doctrine, Europe and the rest of the world will remain in a constant state of threat and anxiety.
Money is power
For sure it’s all about money. 44 million people and lots of companies to tax and steel money from.
Money and power he should learn from his predecessors .
I don't think so. I think it's legacy motivation. Statue stuff.
He needs the money to pay for his prescription drugs. Those cancer drugs he is taking will set him back a few rubles.
Hollowed out folks. That’s what happened.
Legacy, his 70th birthday and possible new position as he steps back.
You bet
The guy with the headphones has definitely got a stutter problem
What they do the money they just eat and go in to the toilettes?
It is not fair of the US to declare Russia to be the enemy of Europe. We had good relations with Russia after the cold war stopped and the iron curtain was removed. Unfortunately, this didn't suite the US and Nato - they want Russia to keep out of European relations. This cannot be right and must be corrected!! Russia has suffered in WW I and II and is now again faced with hostility and imperial intensions by the West.
We know the EUs interest is money and favoritism, port favoritism
Russian Sauron thinks he needs billions because he will live forever.
Yeltsin to Nato in 1990's, "Not one inch east" !
Anybody talking like this guys you got to watch his talk
The Fourth Political Ideology has played a part too, I am certain.
What does Putin want with all that money? He's old & perhaps sick.
It’s not a invasion
Take all the frozen assets and money and give to Ukraine
... as a German Biologist and Pythagorean - a Messianic Mission. When the entire World is totally destroyed - then there is Eternal PEACE. A true Saint...
Always good to get the opinion of a criminal.
@upnorth2421
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe criminals know criminals best?
@peterdul3876
2 жыл бұрын
@@upnorth2421 Do you mean Mr Browder?
If he was my kin >>> I'd turn him in. He's lost it . He's been planning .
@peterdul3876
2 жыл бұрын
Mr Browder?
I truly believe that anti fossil fuel attitudes in the west was also a motivator for Putin. Attacking Ukraine also attacks liberal governments trying to fight global warming. And fossil fuels are a huge money earner for Putin.
@peterdul3876
2 жыл бұрын
'fighting global warming' is' tilting at windmills' ; you cannot 'fight' a natural phenomenon. There is no such thing as man-made global warming.
and this Farisei, and Gramatis, Annas, and Kaiafas, has the audacity to go to church, and whisper,"vaistina voskress" he who should had been excommunicated and swims in the blood of thousands innocent people shame for the Russian church.
He cant go anywhere to spend any of it so all he has is big potato ;)
Dnt believe what this guy said
@jla3bc
2 жыл бұрын
Why? Everything he’s alleged has proven true. You’re nothing but a pro-Putin troll.
@mohammadraihan4107
2 жыл бұрын
@@jla3bc who prove ? Dnt believe American theory
@jumperpence
2 жыл бұрын
??
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
2 жыл бұрын
kind of bossy?
@ndjibukabengele973
2 жыл бұрын
@@mohammadraihan4107 His lawyer was assassinated in russia, he was there and he knows putin well and you have no idea what you're talking about.
🇷🇺👏👏👏
Putin has to go
@peterdul3876
2 жыл бұрын
where to?
UKRAINE (Kjiev :existed long before, Russia... Check it out They were a race also before so called Russians of today
No... This evil is noting more than a pure narscissist... He wants to gain a place in históry, and reigning as a tzar... That is what he is aiming for...
**>**
@daya820
2 жыл бұрын
No thanks, no more Russian propaganda.
@sunlight4169
2 жыл бұрын
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@rationalanalysis960
2 жыл бұрын
@@sunlight4169 You are a foot soldier of the Empire of Lies I assume
@sunlight4169
2 жыл бұрын
@@rationalanalysis960 Empire of Lies"???? lololololol..... Nothing "rational" about your "analysis" whatsoever.
@rationalanalysis960
2 жыл бұрын
@@sunlight4169 >
Greed will destroy putin and its wonderful!
OOPS! Ukraine Stole Putin's Gold.
@peterdul3876
2 жыл бұрын
surely that's the job of the US - it is their standard procedure when they organize regime change to install their puppet
This is the first time I hear any news about this evil man YES YES GREEDY HATE ENVY EVERTHING FOR HIMSELF NOTHING FOR ANYONE BUT ONLY HIMSELF MONEY GREEDY YES
@peterdul3876
2 жыл бұрын
Mr Browder?
A🥀to you Putler.👋🏻bye bye!!
After 19 years since the beginning of the invasion of Iraq, has the West forgotten this war? The Iraq war is said to have resulted in 1 million deaths the difference is russia have weapons of mass destruction A message to the future generations never make russia feel threatened the difference between "looking dangerous" and "being dangerous".Russia describes military doctrine as defensive military doctrine. With regard to nuclear weapons specifically, Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons: in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies,in case of aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened As of 2022, the Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 5,977 nuclear weapons, while the United States has 5,428; Russia and the U.S. each have about 1,600 active deployed strategic nuclear warheads. Russia has the most nuclear weapons of any country, at 6,257. Of these, 1,458 are active, meaning they are already deployed, 3,039 are available (can be deployed if needed) and 1,760 are retired (out of use and awaiting dismantlement How do Russian nuclear weapons compare to the rest of the world? Russia - 6,257 America 5,550 UK - 225 France - 290 China - 350 Israel - 90 Pakistan - 165 India - 156 North Korea - 40 When you tell the truth it's always gonna be controversial.
B.S it’s got to do with democracy look at all ancient history demoncrazy is all I get it of that !!!!
Yes. That's it! More money...already the richest man in the world, so powerful he decides the result of american presidential elections. In personal charge of the worlds largest nuclear arsenal etc etc. Another dollar or two would be useful. Look, you don't like the guy, I get it, but this is pathetic.
Hahaha putin is going to be poor
@peterdul3876
2 жыл бұрын
bur not as poor as you because of Western sanctions. Who sanctioned the the US/UK when they illegally invaded Iraq & killed a million people?
Why don't you know how to say Sergey? Sergei, Serghei... Actually, a thousand milliard: or one billion. 10¹²
@MH-iq6eo
2 жыл бұрын
I bet you're lots of fun at the party.
Why is this presenter so disheveled and scruffy? Okay, it is radio, but he's still on camera.
I stand with putin
@vanessaford8630
2 жыл бұрын
Stand with Putin, I feel sorry for you honestly 😂
@advancetotabletop5328
2 жыл бұрын
Stand with Putin. Lie down in a body bag.
This is really low level propaganda.
@jeremyatkinson4976
2 жыл бұрын
A meaningless comment
@oisnowy5368
2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to know you at least know yourself. Perhaps if Russian money had been blocked less, they could have provided you with training so you could write high level propaganda instead.
@TesterAnimal1
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ndjibukabengele973
2 жыл бұрын
You're the least intellectual person here lol.
@ndjibukabengele973
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyatkinson4976 Not only meaningless but idiotic as well.