Many years ago, I compared a certain Olympus lens to a Panasonic lens, and there was bloodshed in the comments. I was grilled alive for being "biased". I was young and stupid back then. Today, I am a different person. I don't give a **** about what people say anymore. I know what I am saying, I trust my own tests. Feel free to disagree with me, I am not always right, and I don't ask you to agree with everything I say. We are all different, and I accept that. However, if you fail to be polite and intentionally do unnecessary bashing/trolling/name-calling, I won't hesitate to ban you. I have no time, energy and mental space to entertain your abusive and pointless argument. The world is dying, I have better things to do.

@joca1378

3 жыл бұрын

Nice video Robin! I had a used E-M10 with 14-42 EZ but gave it back and bought an E-M10 ii that came with other kit lenses. I'm buying the 14-42 EZ again as fits perfectly in my pocket and looks great with a E-PM2 that i got. Sharpness is great, i uploaded a really small unlisted clip (and not edited) just for you to see (E-M10+14-42 EZ). Sorry for the link but here it is if you don't mind: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hH-Mq9J-htTQo7g.html The uploaded video didn't came out as sharp as the original but it's not a noticeable difference.

@davebutler3905

3 жыл бұрын

@@joca1378 Good example clip Joca! As i said elsewhere in these comments... I bought the oly lens for video because... Its light enough for my cheap Feiyutech gimbal. It has nice smooth autofocus. And the zoom can be operated without touching the camera using the phone app.

@jannieschluter9670

3 жыл бұрын

@Mike Zielinski Amen!

@dzhaughnne

3 жыл бұрын

@Mike Zielinski The world is dying because natural processes run only in one direction, and are not reversible. This is the second law of thermodynamics, and it has no mercy. Jesus, by contrast, was a precocious young student of the scriptures who apprenticed as a carpenter, and then became a ferocious critic of religious sin-shaming and fear-mongering, and dedicated his life to helping people escape the icy claws of life-destroying religious doctrine and to grasp the living truth that "the kingdom of God is within you." The fear-mongers and sin-shamers were having none of that, so they crucified him and then perverted his message into a set of doctrines which they believed they could use to perpetuate their own power and privilege, and to keep the masses ignorant of the message he was trying to convey to them. It's tragic, although not entirely surprising, that you choose to carry on their odious mission. I wish blessings and insight for you and those you love.

@dzhaughnne

3 жыл бұрын

@Mike Zielinski "Demonic, carnal, damnable lies and doctrines of men" - Too long for a band name but it could work as an album title. Great work.

Many people in Thailand found the cable inside of Olympus 14-42 is damaged after using for a year. This is a defect that still not resolved.

For me it was the opposite with the manual extension: There seems to be quite a few stories online of 14-42mm failing after some time because a tiny ribbon cable from the auto extension mechanism breaks after multiple cycles of stretching and compressing. I don't really know how common that failure mode for the Olympus pancake actually is, but since I don't really mind having to manually extend the lens (if I need it ready for a quick shot I just keep it open), and not having heard of any similar failure from the Panasonic, I figured I would go with the later.

Personally, I prefer 12mm much more than 14mm as a starting point. For me, this is huge since I feel 12mm is far more useful for landscapes or shooting indoors in close quarters. Both lenses are excellent, but I will always opt for the wider one.

@earifin

3 жыл бұрын

the field of view difference between 12mm and 14mm is just less than half meter, simply step back a bit you will get the same image. I won't use this as the main criteria for choosing my lenses.

@mateuszwnuk9136

3 жыл бұрын

@@earifin It is really a lot in interiors but for landscapes I also don't think it should be such a big deal breaker.

@Centauri27

3 жыл бұрын

@@earifin In practice, the 12mm is far more useful than 14mm. Stepping back is possible only for some situations. Others like landscape, interior, you can "step back" any further. And put it this way, do you think Olympus would've garnered much excitement if they had produced a "14-42mm f/2.8 PRO" lens?

@Centauri27

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Like many, I'm willing to sacrifice focal length on the long end if it means better short end performance. I have many lenses that can take me past 32mm, but not many that are below 14mm.

@earifin

3 жыл бұрын

@@Centauri27 it's subjective assumption/opinion, Oly has 7-14mm PRO lens, why they need to cover 14 if majority of their customer prefer 12mm

Been waiting for this vid for about 10 years 😊

Thanks for the review. I use the Pan 12-32mm on the EM5 Mark iii all the time as a cheap, sharp and compact wide angle 12mm alternative to the other larger or more expensive 12mm options. For handheld vlogging, it works quite well and no issues with video autofocus. I find that the 12-32mm zoom range is more useful than the 14-4x range but this is just personal preference. I actually use the 12-32mm more frequently than my Oly 12-45mm because of compactness. I do like the Oly 14-4x from your comparison and will give it a closer look.

I have 2 copies of both lenses (silver and black, of course :-)) and I like them all, but I wouldn't say one is better than the other let alone clearly. I like wide(r) angle of the Panasonic, but longer reach and manual focusing ring of the Olympus can be handy too. Optically they're all very good especially for "kit" lenses, so pick one and be happy...

Thanks for the comparison video. I have wondered how the two lenses compared. I own and use the Olympus 14-42mm as a backup for my 14/20/45mm prime kit.

What is cool about the Olympus 14-42 is you can get an “automatic” lens cap LC-37C. I got one for my wife and she loves how you just need to turn on the camera and the lens opens.

@cmartin_ok

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and you can get third-party equivalent automatic lens caps for much less money than the official Olympus one, too.

@weisserth

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have the cap too. It's neat and such a simple idea to execute.

@Centauri27

3 жыл бұрын

Turns your Olympus into a "high end point and shoot". 😂

@petegleeson1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I bought the Oly one and agree, it makes the lens on a GM1 a tiny but one handed operation that is pretty quick. Only downside with this combo is no stabilisation , horses for courses!

For someone basically locked up, you continue to produce very good content.. Kudos, Robin! As for the Oly 14-42, it's everything you need for an outing or trip, where space and weight are at a premium.. Solid, dependable, with excellent image quality..

Wow! I love this video FOR SO MANY reasons! The "wide angle kit lens" is one of my TOP THREE lenses I recommend to students (albeit, behind a prime portrait lens). The reason is, IT WORKS REALLY WELL as a wide angle, and I use it ONLY at or near the widest focal length (if you wonder why I don't recommend a prime wide angle lens, it's because the ability of a zoom to slightly adjust composition is PRICELESS, and because the price is low, it's an excellent tool (and because you're close to or at the widest maximum aperture, you're okay there too).

I got the 14-42 with my E-M10 and LOVE it! I've also used it on my E-M1 too.

Great video. I have both these lenses as well as prime and vintage adapted lenses. I like both of these and use them often. While I agree with all your comments, I have one to add that my 1st 14 to 42 came used with my em10mii and after using it for about a year, it failed hard. I switched to the lumix but missed the 14 to 42 so I bought another one. My only concern is based on my failed Unit, I worry it is more fragile with so many more moving parts.

Just purchased the Olympus 14 to 42mm lens for my lumix Gf5. I took your advice and when it's going to be possible to travel again down the Rejang River from kuching to Belaga this is the lens for travel I'm going to use. I'm a traditionalist and Olympus have been around from day one and it shows in their quality. Good video

This is my second comment here, and this one is after I received and tested this lens. In one word, is is amazing in terms of image quality as well as functionality. In my opinion also it is sharper than Panasonic 12-32, the zoom by wire is something that I will need to get used to but the manual focus override ring is amazingly useful. The very close focusing distance is fantastic as well. I opened the Panasonic gx85 raw files in Photoshop and enlarged them to 36 inches on the long side at 300 dpi. I don’t know how many Wows I uttered by this lens is fantastic! Thank you for this video as this was the reason why I bought it in the first place.

I have the Olympus 14-42 with the auto lens cap and really like this lens. I bought it to use on an EM-10 mkii but now use it on an -em-5 mkiii. I really like this lens for an everyday carry lens especially on the smaller OMD bodies. What I found to be really an eye opener was that when I checked my favorite photos in Lightroom , I found that at least half of them were taken with this lens/camera combination. It's not that this lens is better than my other lenses it's the fact that I had it with me while my pro gear sat at home. As the saying goes....the best camera is the one in your hands and I find that the em-5/14-42 combo has become my go to setup when just out and about.

I'm glad I found this video it has put to bed the thoughts about this topic and I'm now very happy to keep the 14-42mm that came with my E -M10 IV. I am using a Panasonic 20mm on the Olympus and my everyday carry camera is a Panasonic GX880 with a Panasonic 14mm. The 14-42mm comes with me as my backup lens with both in case I need that zoom. Still learning but the 14-42mm was a great teaching aid to decide what primes I wanted to buy.

I had the Oly 14-42EZ with my EM10 Mark ll and used it for a couple of years learning all about the camera. The photos it took I was very pleased with and even did some commercial work with it. As others have said the weak point is the ribbon cable and mine failed too but I bought another as it's so compact. I also purchased the Oly 12-45 Pro which I now use most of the time (I do mainly landscape and travel photography). The 12-45 Pro does deliver slightly better images but to be fair to the 14-42EZ it's not far off the 12-45 especially with a bit of post processing.

@JensMHA

2 жыл бұрын

Same problem as the Oly 9-18mm then.

Great review. I checked the two different 14mm to 42 mm Olympus kit lenses and found the older, larger (manually extended) version to be slighly sharper.

@key253

2 жыл бұрын

I also had the old and the new EZ 14-42. My EZ is much sharper than the old one, especially at 42mm.

I have both kits and enjoyed both. Key difference between them is Olympus one is electronic zoom but Pana is manual zoom. Elect zoom is simultaneously the an advantage and a disadvantage. It’s Smooth zoom in video is great, but for photographs the manual zoom is faster and more direct. Also noticed that electronic zoom consumes batteries quite a lot, specially more demanding for lighter models with less battery size. For durability, my own pana 12-32 surprised me for staying good for so heavy use and drops a few times for 5 years. But the Olympus kit has failed with less mileage so I need to buy my second unit. But each unit of same product may varies and user’s behaviors affects how equipments performed, making differences in user experiences. So there is no point to argue who is right, let’s appreciate all reviewers work that helps us making purchase decisions. Thanks Robin for your sharing too!

Very interesting and informative podcast, thank you. I have the Olympus lens and have found it a very good lens.

Hi, I'm watching the 100th of your videos (or it feels that way anyway) And I just wanted to thank you. They've been really helpful as I'm selling my Fuji x-e3 and switching to Olympus. Thanks again and God bless!

Love the Olympus 14-42mm and have used on both Olympus and Panasonic body's very sharp on both ... Keep up the good work...

I bought the OMD MK4 camera with two starter lenses. The kit came with this lens and I love it some much. For a small travel lens, it packs a lot, plus its light and with a metal body it feels good to hold. I want a OM System 20mm F1.4 PRO at some point, but I will never get rid of this lens!

I just bought the Olympus one! I bought one from MPB for parts/repair but the only issues are wiring so hopefully I will be able to fix it!

I don’t have the 14-42, but I do have the 12-32 and I have used it on both the Panasonic GM1 it came with as well as my Olympus bodies. It is a very nice little lens, and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it. It does indeed have some drawbacks as you point out, but those extra 2mm on the wide end are quite nice to have for people who tend to shoot more at the wide end than the telephoto end.

I’ve had both lenses at one point and mine showed the 12-32 was miles sharper. So being Lower grade lenses they must be inconsistent on manufacturing

@KresimirAbramovic

3 жыл бұрын

same here

@lorenschwiderski

3 жыл бұрын

The Panasonic is excellent for a kit grade lens. Better than the Olympus, though the old 14-42 R is pretty good.

Excellent detailed comparison

here is a deal need to choose between manual zoom and manual focusing ring for some people like me manual zoom ring is more important, also need to choose between wide angle and close focusing distance which the same for many people wide angle in such tiny lens is more important, thanks for review

Hey Robin hope you are having a good day , thank you for amazing content once again

I had two Olympus 14-42mm EZ lenses, both of which ended up broken down after about several thousands shots. I brought one of the lens to the local dealer for repair. It came back OK and after more use it again broke down. The problem was the front elements of the lens does not come out after power on or it continuously pops out and in on power-on. I gave up on the Olympus 14-42mm at last. The motor mechanism of the lens is apparently not so durable. The same retractable Panasonic 12-32mm is manually extended when in use. I have shot more with this lens than the Olympus but I had no trouble of this kind. I am afraid that the Olympus 14-42mm EZ is not reliable.

@emiemi8709

6 ай бұрын

Hi, how is the 12-32 on Olympus bodies, in particular EM10 IV, does the AFC and stabilization work well? Thanks

Thanks Robin. I use the 12-32 on my GX85 as my normal street set up, and don't own the Olympus 14-42 Pancake. I do have the Lumix motorized 14-42 which is more like the motorised Olympus 14-42 pancake. I really like pancakes because they make M4/3 cameras pocketable. I'm about to buy the Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark lll based on your comparison with the OM-D EM-1 Mark ll from last year because of its small size and lightness and will use it teamed up with other pancakes like the 14mm and 20mm Lumix lenses. I don't know if the E-M5 Mark lll will be as quick to deploy as the GX-85 for street photography, but it is worth buying for the higher resolution and fast focusing. The most telling thing this pancake comparison showed me was the difference in focusing speed on the Olympus E-M5 Mark lll. As a result, I'll be comparing my 2 Lumix prime pancakes focusing speed to my Olympus 45mm which is pocketable even if not a pancake. Olympus Australia is giving away a 25 mm f1.8 with the purchase of the camera so there is another prime that is pocketable. Because I came to photography in the pre-zoom era I am fine with primes and not attracted to the excellent but bulky Olympus Pro Zooms. Well done again Robin.

I got the 14-42 R2 lens and I prefer it over the 14-42mm you're reviewing. The digital zoom does get faulty from what I have noticed. Also the shaky sound from the 12-32mm makes me think of Sigma's f/2.8 series of lenses, great quality for the price.

I had the pany lens and replaced it with the oly. Didn't get on with the lens lock at all. Electronic Zoom speed can be adjusted somewhere in the menu labyrinth for those who find it twitchy. The oly is a good lens for video... Light enough for a cheap gimbal and has remote control zoom via your phone. Auto focus is smooth with no overshoot/hunting. But I'm only a noob!

I'm looking for an all in one small lens. The close up magnification is a deal breaker for me of the 12-32, I like to shoot close ups of small things at times.

The old 12-32 Kitlens has a metal mount as well. That, the wider angle and the manual zoom ring (i can't stand an electronic zoom for photo shots) has drawn me to the pana 12-32.

The extra 2mm at the wide end is the biggest reason to get the panasonic. Makes a lot more difference than you would think. My panasonic also has a metal lens mount.

Good Information Robin!! Thank You!!

Hey Robin. Love your opening comment… always better to go your own way and ignore those malcontents out there. Cheers!

Thanks for the review. It was fair and honest. I think you need a panasonic camera that pairs well Panasonic lens to get a better review? Plus the Olympic camera has become part of you which makes a difference. In any case both lenses will work quite well for a nubie. The ring is a good point. I think a nubie would have great difficulty witb manual fous on any camera. I have very little experience and bought a panasonic g85. Im hoping that i made a good decision.

I use the 14-42 II R lens on my E-P5. Wish I had the EZ, it looks so compact in comparison! But I don't need two kit lenses lol

The fact that I own both and plan to keep both may say everything in itself about "what's the perfect solution if you can afford it". I prefer the wide angle of the 12-32 a bit more and the fact that it's a better fit on my tiny GM1. But yes, the missing focus ring and the need to "open" it manually a real downsides to me, too. So I'm using the 14-42 more on my GX9 as an compact solution and if I need 12mm there, I'll use the Olympus 12-50, the lens I usually use if I want to do macro.

Definitely good to know about the deal breaker. Im mainly a Lumix camera user but I do prefer some of the oly lenses

BAGUS. I'm Definitely getting the Olympus.

I have the Panasonic 12-32 on my gx85 as my walk around camera set, I am constantly amazed at how sharp this lens is. I just ordered the Olympus 14-42 based on your recommendation. That extra telephoto reach would suit my shooting style better. However, I started researching a bit deeper online, and I am beginning to worry that you had a very, very, very good copy😂. No pressure though, I will post my findings here once I get the lens at the end of this month. Cheers.

@Razal921

Жыл бұрын

Hi, after you get your lens what you pick and for what reason?

I have not used the Olympus 14-42 EZ. However, I previously owned the Lumix 14-42 PZ. It was also a power zoom so it has a quick start up. When I upgraded my camera to the GX80, I got the 12-32. I sold my 14-42 PZ! Yeah, I liked the PZ but I prefer manually setting the zoom. Set the 12-32 to the focal length you need, switch on the camera and it is ready to photograph! Yes it is quicker than the PZ in this case. But it is personal preference. I must also say the 12-32 is very fast and with my GX80 works with Dual-IS (amazing how Lumix put that in such a small lens!). You can still manually focus the 12-32, on screen, at least on a Lumix body. But with this type of lens it isn't something I have need to do. This is my holiday lens, no time for MF! The plastic lens mount doesn't bother me much. I like the extra 2mm of 12mm although I do miss the 42mm end. The rattle must be due to the image stabilisation but mine doesn't make as much noise as yours. Everything has pros and cons, there isn't much between these lenses.

Hi Robin, It was a used 14-42 lens with the Pen 7 together with you and Peter Forsgard that persuaded me change from Canon to Olympus. I am not regretting it.

0:15 I like that face and gasp sound so much lol

My 12-32 happens to have a metal mount, so that apparently is an option. For sharpness, I know that I'm happy with what I get. But I would enjoy trying the Oly some day.

You not mentioned about available automatic lens cap for olympus! Nice compact&fast&pocket combination with my e-pm2.

I learned a long time ago that it is normal for some lenses to rattle (when not powered on). Case in point my Sigma 30mm f2.8 DN Art lens rattles just as you noted. I have the Panny 12-32 as the kit lens on my Panasonic GM1. Interestingly enough - many of these kit lenses, mine included, came with a metal mount. I've always been satisfied with the results from my GM1 but I pretty much use it as a glorified point & shoot. The only 14-42 lens I have is the Oly 14-42 R II which I have used on my E-M10 when I want to go super light.

@cmartin_ok

3 жыл бұрын

The 12-32 started off with a metal mount but after a while, Panasonic changed it to plastic. I've got an example of both types... can only think it was done to save money and/or enhance profits :-(

I prefer the Olympus R2 kit lens and happy with the results . I wonder whether you have compared those two .

This "rattle complaining" trend is all Matti Sulanto's fault, go blame it on him lol.

@wparo

3 жыл бұрын

I like Matti. He seems like a humble man. Him and Robert made me get into MFT.

I got the 14-42 as a kit lens with my original OM-D M1. It never struck me as a particularly sharp lens. I use it on my Pen F - but it pales compared to my prime 25, and 45.

Yes, a collapsable zoom can slow you down but there's a solution. You can just zoom out and leave it like that. On the other hand an electronic zoom is always a pain to use for zooming in and out. I've used one and didn't like the unresponsiveness and inaccuracy at all. On a manual zoom there's no delay when operating it and I can easily look at the markings on top and zoom to the exact focal length i like to use. There's no perfect little kit lens but I would choose a manual zoom over an electronic one any day.

@Centauri27

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! The more I use the electronic zoom on the 14-42 EZ, the less I liked it. I ended up replacing it with the Panasonic 12-32.

I owned the mk2 R of that kitzoom Olympus lenses are very sharp quality lens💕

In my case the results were the opposite. Probably the sample variation might be the reason for it. Although I have heard some people that were not very happy initially with the Olympus 14-42 EZ, that recent samples have proved to have much better IQ. So maybe Olympus has improved manufacturing quality control. Anyhow, one thing that really bothered me about the Olympus was the electronic zoom. I found it relatively complicated to set the focal length to the desired framing, and it kind of stressed me. Manual zoom in the panasonic is much better. Regarding Panasonic's building material, there is a metal variant (I have heard it was provided on kits), and it is worst than the plastic one, because the front ring tended to break apart if it was the metal lens, whilst this problem thas not happen with the plastic variant. The one thing that really annoys me with the Panasonic lens is it not being able to do manual focus. You need another lens if you are going to shoot in low light because this issue can make you miss shots.

Great vid Robin. I have a question is there hood for the olympus 14-42mm

I tend to agree with everything you have said here robin, except the deal breaker for me is this: the zoom motor in my 14-42 EZ started acting crazy, gose on and off, camera won´t focus and often I don´t even get an im age. I went to the forums in the web and a lot of people hav e this same problem, and only way to fix it is through Olympus service at a very high price. So I got me a 12-32, less performance, manually extended but I´ll keep it as a back-up. I still have another 14-42 EZ which I like so much for travel but I´ll always bring my 12-32 in case the EZ breaks down. Olympus user, EM5 mark iii, EM 10 mark ii and looking for a pen replacement for my now dead E-PL7.

Very useful, thanks.

In engineering, noise and movements isn't always a bad thing. Great video.

I m a professional photographer using canon gear,but I appreciate your skillful video showing the comparison between Panasonic 12-32mm vs Olympus 14-42mm,I was spellbound to see the difference and the video footage,It pushed me to shift to micro4/3 sensor as it is more lighter and sharper,thanks

Thank you very much, Robin... 👍👌👍🙏 "SALUDOS... 👋🙋😃 "

something about the rattling: I don't have one of theses lenses, but I do have a Zeiss 32mm (but for Fujifilm) and it sounds like they stuffed pebbles into it :D works perfectly fine tho and you can only hear it when the camera is turned off

good comparison.

A very comprehensive comparison! The number one thing I prefer about the Panasonic is the manual zoom. I've found the electronic zoom in the Olympus really frustrating to use. To be fair, I don't currently own either haha.

@cmartin_ok

3 жыл бұрын

The manual zoom can be an advantage, yes. But the Panasonic does not have a manual focus ring - not sure how you can manually focus it on an Olympus body. The 12-32 lens was originally developed for the Lumix GM series but Panasonic soon killed that range off :-(

Robin, did you know you can leave the Panasonic lens extended and ready for action at all times unlike the Olympus, which after some (not too long) time retracts itself and you have to either tap the shutter or even power cycle the camera and wait until it's extended again? Oh, and both of my Panasonics do have metal mounts...

@Centauri27

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's a good point! When your camera goes to sleep, the lens retracts, requiring a delay as you wait for it to extend again. And all the draws more power from your battery, which makes a difference if you use the E-M5 Mk III or E-M10. Also, my 12-32 has a metal mount as well.

@godofhope

3 жыл бұрын

There are different versions: some 12-32 have plastic mount. The Olympus does have advantages as well. When you switch the camera on the camera is ready to shoot. The Panasonic lens you have to extend the lens barrel manually. One handed shooters will have a problem. The Panasonic lens has another problem: the plastic ring is poorly glued and it goes off after some time (David Thrope Video, may he rest in peace)

@wherezthebeef

2 жыл бұрын

Have used both, they're both excellent.

Great video! I am thinking in buying a first camera (second hand) and I found both lens second hand also in great condition. But the Olympus is 80 Dollars more expensive. Do you think that the 80 more are worth it? Thanks

Surprising and stunning results, Robin. Well done! How does the 14-42 EZ compare to the 12-45 f4.0 Pro lens?

@joeltunnah

3 жыл бұрын

I have the 14-42 R ii, I know it’s not the same kit lens, but it’s noticeably softer than the 12-45 Pro which I own. But you can’t beat the small size and low price.

LOL any stabilised lens would rattle when turned off! 😆 Indeed, 14-42 Oly lens is awesome for the size and price - I also love the auto lens cap, it makes my EM-5 mk III a perfect family trip camera, very compact and lightweight, while still being a quite capable camera. My only nuisance with that lens is the motorised zoom... That's because I've also the Oly 12-45 f/4! :-)

I disagree with you about the dealbreaker part - when travelling, I often turn the camera on and off and it is irritating to always wait for the lens to extend (and listen to this sound). If I'm using the lens on a wrist strap, I'd prefer it always out - so I understand the panasonic would always be out and ready to shoot if manually extended and all I need to start shooting is turn on the camera, the olympus isn't. So although I never had a chance to use the panasonic, the main disadvantage of 14-42 is that mechanism I have to wait for. I use 9-18mm and I need to manually extend it before using it and it feels much more comfortable to keep it extended (unless of course it goes back to the camera bag, but not on the wrist strap) which is also among the reasons why I tend to use it more often.

@waynebeaumont3274

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I think I'd prefer the manual zoom of the 12-32 at the expense of manual focusing on the 14-42. The zoom I use a lot, manual focusing, not so much.

@earifin

3 жыл бұрын

Robin said "to me personally, the deal breaker is...", beside he did not include this in his list, you are literally disagreeing his personal preference. Please note i prefer manual zoom as well

@OoviokuoO

3 жыл бұрын

@@earifin What's the problem? Robin shared his opinion, Mateusz shared his opinion. Robin said that anyone can politely disagree with him.

@mateuszwnuk9136

3 жыл бұрын

@@earifin I know it is his opinion, I only stated mine. I still love this zoom for portability but would much, much prefer to have the manually extended version. I had a choice to get the IIR version with the camera of this lens with the kit but it is much bigger and I risked taking EZ for the size. And the size makes me take it almost every time. But in truth, the electronic zoom makes me use it much less frequently. I wish it weren't the case. There's a positive side of the electronic zoom though. Something I used just a few times but it has to be stated - you can keep the camera on the tripod and zoom in and out using the application. It is a cool feature. I'd still prefer the manual one though :D at expense of MF ring too, just like Wayne above me said.

@lgude

3 жыл бұрын

I have the 12-32, and also the 'motorized' Lumix 14-42 pancake which appears to work a lot like the Olympus 14-42 pancake. I prefer the manual 12-32 and because my eye has always been wide angle oriented, I value the extra wideness. But Robin is right, having to unlock the lens is a bummer, and even more so on the 9-18 Olympus because you have push the locking slider. But you, Mateusz, have suggested the cure - leave both unlocked on the wrist strap. I find the indirectness of the Lumix 14-42 pancake, which I understand is a little different then the Olympus pancake, just off putting because it interrupts my visual concentration while physically zooming the 12-32 with my hand does not. I also use the 14mm Lumix as my walking around lens which requires no adjustment - just half press, shoot. Likewise the 20mm Lumix and of course both are faster for low light shooting.

I have both lenses and i did not like the 14mm and the Zoom by wire of the Olympus. I go for the Pana. Regards

The rattling is from the built in stabilizer in the lens... I think? What i want to know is how durable is the plastic mount on the lens? It would be perfect if the mount was made of metal

If one wants to select between those two (what normally is not the case, because they typically come with a camera purchased and you won't have the option to select between those two) I would advice to go for the Panasonic when you are more into street photography and landscape and the Olympus if you are more into plant and insect photography or portraits. I don't think that you will be able to see any major picture quality differences in your photos unless you start to do pixel peeping. Personally, I would select the Olympus simply because I am an Olympus user and not Panasonic, would I be interested in such a pancake lens, what I'm not.

I heard olympus 14-42 is prone to breaking in the flex cable. But I also heard someone who uses it for years without problem. I don't know whether I should spend here

I got both lenses, but I use the Panasonic lens only on Panasonic bodies - in my case that's a GX85. The Olympus lens is mostly glued to a Pen E-M2. I also gave it a quick test on an E-M1 and E-M1 Mark III. The Panasonic lens focuses as fast or faster than the Olympus lens when used on the GX85. I guess they optimized the focus algorithm for Panasonic's method. One thing that's quite an important difference: the Panasonic lens is actively stabilized - at least on Panasonic bodies. For video especially, that makes a HUGE difference. If you use a pro grade Olympus body the lens stabilization becomes less important. The E-M1 Mark II and III have such amazing stabilization built into the body, that unstabilized lenses with reasonable focal lengths work very well. But comparing apples to apples and zooming the Olympus out on a E-PM2 (with viewfinder VF2 attached) and judging shakiness versus the GX85 and the Panasonic lens, the Panasonic combination is worlds more stable handheld. The same is true when comparing the Olympus lens on the GX85 with just the Panasonic body stabilization. A simple rule applies here: you have an Olympus body? Go with an Olympus lens. You have a Panasonic body? Go with a Panasonic lens. MFT as a standard unfortunately does not share a whole lot more than the lens mount as a true common denominator. If you expect a MFT lens to focus identically across camera brands? Nope. Expect to use certain lens features like function buttons, aperture rings etc. across camera brands? Nope. Expect lens profile correction to be applied across camera brands in their RAW engines? Nope. What a wasted opportunity (and a reason for the relative failure of the format on the market given its otherwise great value proposition).

Only reason that I immediately sold the 14-42 Olympus for a second hand when I get it with a new E-PL because I don't wait for the cable inside damage on my hand.

Hi, thx. This video is one year old, have you been able to test both lenses on a panasonic camera?

Of the four 12-32s I have, 2 of them has metal mounts, 2 has plastic mounts. The metal ones is older production units I think. I bought a white box one for my GX7 in 2015 that came with a metal mount, and the other one came with my GM1. The two plastic mounts came with the GX9 and GX880. All of them is tack sharp. Never tried the Oly one. The difference of focus speed I have seen explained with the Panasonics DFD focusing system not being optimal on the Olympus houses, and vice versa. To be fair, I do think we are rather spoiled with AF speeds in the M43 multiverse, however one measures it. Currently I am working a bit with the Pana 20mm which everyone complains about, and so far, I cant fault the AF speed on it, within reason. It is not as snappy as the Oly 17 mm F:1.8 or the PL 15mm F:1,7, but those two are instantaneous focusing and somewhat in the realms of magic. :-)

I’ve never tried the Olympus 14-42, so I won’t argue. The 12-32 is surprisingly sharp, though. The lack of a focus ring is definitely a drawback sometimes. I rarely use mine, haha. Thanks for this comparison.

How about the OIS? Do you get any extra benefit from Panasonic lens in recording video let say like vlogging video instead of Olympus lens with no OIS?

Hi Robin. Like you, I own an E-M5 Mk III and the Olympus 14-42 EZ, and recently picked up the Panasonic 12-32. I have decided to use the Panny as my compact walk-around lens. I haven't done a comparison between the two, and I agree with all your points, but I chose the 12-32 because of these reasons: (1) 12mm really does make a noticeable difference. I view this as a "mini" version of my 12-40. (Unless I pixel peep, I won't even know which lens was used at 12mm) (2) I prefer the manual zoom, as I find the Olympus' electronic zoom to be very fiddly. (3) Power savings. The constant extend/retract motion of the Olympus will further eat into the meager battery life of my E-M5 Mk III. Finally for what it's worth, my 12-32 came with a metal mount. I also picked it up very inexpensively on eBay. (Final reason: I also use a Panasonic GX85, so the 12-32 can work in Dual-IS mode with that camera.)

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Hi Carl, on your E-M5 Mk III , how's the everyday auto-focusing performance of the Panasonic 12-32? Is it like what Robin showed in this video? If so, its AF is terrible on an Olympus body.

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@@XLifeX Hi. I use the 12-32 on both my GX85 and E-M5 Mk III and I haven't noticed any difference in autofocus performance. Seems totally satisfactory to me.

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@@Centauri27 Thanks!

I would think if you are the owner of a panasonic camera with in built stabilization - the extra wide 12mm and the IOS would make this lens the hands down winner. Also the much higher resale of the panasonic lens on ebay compared to the Olympus is indicative that the market agrees

Are there different versions of the Lumix 12-32 because the one I have (silver) has a metal mount? I got it specifically for the 12mm and I use primes for the longer end.

Can the Olympus lens be zoomed with controls on the camera body for one handed shooting?

Does the blue ring on the Olympus signify anything? On my 14-150 f4/5.6 Olympus the blue is an indicator of weather resistance ability. Cheers from Victoria, British Columbia

I did actually sell this lens. I firstly thought it was a good compact lens to carry with me when I use my 25 mm F/1.2 since it fit in my pocket. It's a good lens, but I'm a fixed focal guy. I do generally 25 mm or 28 mm (with my Meike pancake manual lens). And recently, I did purchase the marvelous 12-40 mm f/2.8 which give me the best of both world. I gonna replace it with the 17mm F/2.8, since I want to try this focal length before paying extra dollars for the 1.8 version. On the other hand, the 25 mm from Panasonic is one of the sharped yet cheap lens I've ever tried. And yes, i keep it for my smaller EM10 body.

Have both lenses, they’ve both been repaired, I still ❤️ love them both! 🥰📸🌈😎🇬🇧

Wondering what would it be other way round - will this Panny lens perform better in Panny camera? Now looking for a pancake lens to fit my GH5 so nothing pokes out the camera bag while traveling.

Thank you for this comprehensive comparison of these lenses. I am in favour of the olympus lens. What is your opinion of how the olympus 12-40 f2.8 pro lens compares to the olympus pancake lens in terms of image quality alone? It is a pro lens, but is the image quality vastly superior to the oly 12-42 EZ lens? I am planning to go to New York for once in a life time holiday. l would like a good quality lens for my OMD E10 camera to capture the night scenery of Manhattan. Appreciate your thoughts. Thank you. Mark.

sir there are 3 types of Olympus 14-42mm lenses, the first is the one in this video, 2nd is ED and the third is ED 2. Which one will you choose?

I wonder if the reason why the Panasonic lens rattles is because of the optical image stabilisation. Maybe there's a floating element or elements that float magnetically when the lens is powered on. Who knows On a random note, on the E-M1, when you take the lens off, put the body on the table and turn it on, you can watch the sensor magically rise out of its resting place to the middle of the mount when it powers up. It's incredible I miss my E-M1. It's currently being repaired, so I mounted a Pro lens on my E-PL8 instead. It works great, but the lens is heavier than the body, so I'm holding the camera by the lens. All of my bodies are set up similarly, so I'm comfortable using it

can you please compare the 300 f4 of olympus and the Leica 200 f2.8 on olympus body. after the lockdown is over for sure.

If I already have the 12-32, is it worth the upgrade to the 14-42?

Always thought the Oly 14-42 is a EZ lens. Are there diferent versions?

Unfortunately both lenses can exhibit long-term maintenance issues. By now there are several repair guides and videos about the Oly 14-42 EZ to fix a bad ribbon cable, and forum posts about repeated repairs for the same issue. Likewise for the zoom ring on the Panny 12-32. It's too bad because there are so few MFT pancake zoom options, and no improved version new releases.

actually i like that manual retract when you can swap lens without turning off the camera

is it possible to use the olympus lens 14-42mm on a gh5 without an adapter ring?

I did read that there may be higher-than-normal variation between the 12-32 and 14-42 in the panasonic (and even the olympus) versions since these are basically kit lenses. Having to extend the lens IMO (and for me) is a small t hing, and I almost prefer to manually extend the lens than use a PZ (power zoom) lens that extends and uses a zoom motor to adjust the zoom. I've found these can be a bit slow (particularly Sony's 16-50 in some cases) when racking the lens from wide to telephoto, and vice versa (not to mention some designs make a bit of noise when moving so they aren't always discrete0. Personally, having a Pan GF1 body myself I will probably just get the Panasonic version. One thing that someone did point out to me, and I'm not sure if it's actaully true or not, but someone said that the Panasonic has OIS since many of their bodies don't have IS built-into the body, but that Olympus cameras will actually disable this and only use the IBIS in the camera, which I guess is not a big deal, and for the range of 14-42 and 12-32 it may be better, but you can't use both and it seems that it's default (and only option) is IBIS. (IBIS in my experience gets less effective the farther out you go, but under 70mm or 100mm in 35mm terms, it's usually pretty effective, although you may not get a the full level of compensation at longer focal lengths, and that's where in-lens stabilization tends to take over -- it's a trade off though -- IBIS works better at shorter FLs, wheras OIS or optical in-lens stabilization tends to be better for longer FLs like tele focal lengths).

Hi Robin, where do u normally sought the oly used lens especially kit lens? Carousel n Fb in MY not easy to find