I'd be interested to see a debate on this, but first you have to point to a gcse syllabus (or any other for that matter, KS2, KS3) showing that we learn "high level" maths before "traditional" maths. No-one is getting 6/2(1+2) wrong because they've been taught some different abstract algebra system that denotes mathematics differently.

@EricYoungVFX

8 күн бұрын

Interesting, I figured there was some sort of order to it but that would make more sense than just "math 1,2,3"

@bageldogm

8 күн бұрын

​@@EricYoungVFX Yeah we tend to have syllabuses for each stage of learning which encompass most topics - KS (key stage) learning is up until GCSE level, which is where you get your first qualifications. I believe maths is generally sorted into these boundaries, although I'm not entirely sure as I was homeschooled for a long time before joining the formal education system.

what is traditional maths im in the UK we just get taught maths, there is no distinction between a "traditional" and "higher level" maths this 6/2(1+2) debate is primary (elementary) school level for us. you won't see it beyond a certain point, because it is too basic when you start doing GCSEs or getting close, everything is written as fractions, which solves this problem. the answer of 1 is plausible but generally it is agreed the answer is 9. the problem lies in the question, which is ambiguous, rather than how we are taught

@EricYoungVFX

8 күн бұрын

@zonger5537 we are taught that the left>right method is a "traditional" meth that should be universally accepted. But as you can see it clearly not. It's a set of rules that's supposed to be used explicitly unless otherwise told to

@EricYoungVFX

8 күн бұрын

@zonger5537 "tradtional" math ensures your don't get 2 answers for any problem without otherwise being told to

@zonger5537

7 күн бұрын

​@@EricYoungVFXI don't think this is a difference between the UK and US systems. Maybe in the US you are expected to only give the answer of 9. But in the UK we are taught to understand that you could interpret it in several ways, but 9 is preferred for an answer. You might see 2 answers as a problem, but we just see it as important to know where these 2 answers come from. This "traditional" concept is limited to the US - or at least, not the UK - I'm afraid. None of us have ever heard of it.

@EricYoungVFX

7 күн бұрын

@@zonger5537 We aren't taught to give "only 9" we aren't typically taught that left to right is how you should interpret ambiguous problems unless otherwise told to. I had some good math teachers that allowed us to give multiple answers to questions like this. However, we are taught to assume a "traditional" set of rules, like implicitly grouping things left>right. Unless explicitly told otherwise.

@EricYoungVFX

7 күн бұрын

@@zonger5537 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_mathematics

What is bro yapping about? wtf is "traditional" maths and how could you get an answer other than 9 for (6/2)(1+2)

@EricYoungVFX

8 күн бұрын

@trolley7657 Traditional math is a set of rules for interpreting and solving problems that should be used unless explicitly told otherwise. I had a UK teacher tell me that they parse it as 6/(2*(1+2)), when written like 6/2(1+2), which results in 9 TLDR: The answer is 9, but apparently, British people and some dumb Americans think it's 1

@trolley7657

8 күн бұрын

@@EricYoungVFX Idk, I'm British and it sure as fuck does not equal 1, that one teacher you are basing your video rant on might just have been stupid

@EricYoungVFX

8 күн бұрын

@trolley7657 could very well be. He showed me his calculator his students allegedly use and it indeed sees the problem as "1".

@EricYoungVFX

8 күн бұрын

@@trolley7657 Personally, I choose to agree with Microsoft, Linux foundation, Apple, and Google lol

@bageldogm

8 күн бұрын

@@EricYoungVFX What do they have to do with this Any self-respecting calculator will not give 1 as an answer to that and it seemed like a cherry-picked example at best

This is such nonsense. This is an ambiguously written problem. There is no 'right' answer because whether or not implicit multiplication comes before other operation is just a matter of notation, not mathematical truth. The only proper solution is to not phrase questions that can be interpreted in multiple different ways. Sure, it would have been great if everyone could agree on how to interpret questions like this, but that just isn't the case. That doesn't make any interpretation of it 'wrong' or 'dumb.'

@EricYoungVFX

8 күн бұрын

right the point of teaching "traditional" math is so you can overcome such ambiguity. I agree either one are "correct" but from a "traditional" standpoint the answer is explicitly 9.