FYI: I asked logi why no adjustable switches and why not 65% or TKL, They said this is what the pro’s wanted 🤷‍♂️

@ounhy5359

Ай бұрын

this is not what the pros wanted, Logitech blaming the pros is insane

@trembledust6819

Ай бұрын

what pros? lol

@chuayx7572

Ай бұрын

Meanwhile other pros Hi Wooting Hi Razer Hi Steelseries analog switches optical switches that can adjustable. LOL LOGITECH IS A JOKE

@OzymandiasMC

Ай бұрын

cap from logitech lmao

@Werry_Rang

29 күн бұрын

Pros who still think Logi is the only keyboard brand😂

TLDR: yep, they're too late and too overrated at this point.

@diwaalejandrogalvez796

Ай бұрын

And too expensive for what you can get today. Had they released this during the pandemic, then it would have sold.

No rapid trigger at that price is their mistake.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

Not even RT, heck just adjustable switches would be nice.

@seanstuart5264

Ай бұрын

​@TheTechne I agree. They missed the mark on this one.

@cocopuffz604

Ай бұрын

Yup. I went Series Pro TKL after waiting too long for Logitech to make a RT KB... Still haven't I see. They're falling behind, even if it's debatable if RT makes let's you perform better... It's a product we want. Take our money. Geez.

@IIExhibitAII

Ай бұрын

no need for rapid trigger.. whats the point if we are gonna get smoked to a loser exploiting controller aimbot in fps games like warzone? I have a wooting 60he and still cant do crap against these dumb asses since its humanly impossible to have such a reaction time.. i heard its like .2 milliseconds is all you have to react to an controller aimbot and a human's response time is like 250-270 milliseconds.. you can have the best keyboard on earth and play fps on k&m for 25+ years like me and still get owned. lol

@Minecraftmaster44

3 күн бұрын

​@@IIExhibitAIICs? Valorant? Overwatch?

The $180 price tag says it all. Logitech used to be ahead, but now it's a total 180. They've fallen behind so badly. Meanwhile companies like Razer and ASUS (with their ROG brand) have been pumping out banger peripherals. Sure, they can be pricey as well, but at least you're getting more and they have more options too, even the 65 layout. It's sad.

@TechGuy42ilm

Ай бұрын

Can't forget corsiar

@madant7777

Ай бұрын

I have the Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro TKL, great feeling and sound.

@tyl3rb-fw6ee

Ай бұрын

Razer and Asus are awfully mid. Don’t know why you’re getting excited

@zacharybishop6595

Ай бұрын

Not to mention Asus now pre-lubes their switches and stabilizers, enhancing the typing experience.

@flakey9155

Ай бұрын

Razer and asus are trash lmao.

can't wait for logitech to come out with a75%, magnetic switch keyboard in 2032

@Blu3Y1-

Ай бұрын

(still 180$)

This keyboard is literally years behind any competition, not even worth it if it was half the price.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

It is a fair bit behind for sure, but I think if it was half the $ it would be a good buy, and it should be. It’s way overpriced for what it is.

@mr.guillotine3766

Ай бұрын

@@TheTechne I'm hoping to see someone run a comparison between this board and any number of budget options with optical switches...hell, if someone does it, I sort of hope they mod the cheap one, show how much less they still spent, and then give us a good comparison, because my cheap little TK61 sounds better than this board with just a little modding on my end (a little extra foam basically, a little in the spacebar to dampen it)...I know sound isn't everything, but man, it's a pretty big part of it for me.

It's a GK61 re-branded for $180. You could have a custom that destroys any gaming keyboard for around that price

180$ seems too much in a crowded space already. unless some ppl are just die hard Logitech fans, then this product isnt for most ppl.

@babylaaamp2809

Ай бұрын

It isn't for anyone probably, with this price if they are not logipilled and have some knowledge they will go for high performance hall effect switch or fully build custom

@BlizzardWind99

Ай бұрын

yup happy with my g915 tkl even though it has micro usb, I can deal with it as it takes 3 weeks to get to 20% after 2 years of constantly using it. So the battery life is still good on this

@IIExhibitAII

Ай бұрын

I am lololol.

I was interested to see a review on this since I watched Frank's video slamming it. Actually all the talk I saw on this was pretty emotional and just putting it down. It definitely does not seem like it's worth buying even if it were priced a bit lower though. There are just too many other options. Still, I guess the volume wheel placement is neat and maybe if I saw it on a massive discount it'd be worth trying out. I could myself using that volume adjustment rather than the one on my headset. After people just immediately writing this one off, it was nice to see a review that still just treated it like any other keyboard and went into the pros and cons. Still I'm happy with my GMMK2 and the silent tactiles I swapped in, so it'd take a lot for me to want to get a whole new keyboard any time soon.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

Yeah it’s not a bad board by any means, just late to the show, and a bit overpriced.

@chuayx7572

Ай бұрын

Volume wheel placement....well, there's also options elsewhere to change volume, like on headsets with volume controls, on dacs, etc etc. Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing to have on the left side of the keyboard, but it's not a killer feature and someone pressing fn+hotkeys could do almost exactly the same thing.

@dtester

6 күн бұрын

I think keyboard-philes are a bit too emotional over this one but maybe its a good thing as Logitech's new release prices has ALWAYS been too high. It might prompt Logitech to rein it in somewhat with a price drop. On that note, I've been waiting for a 60% Logitech but I'll only consider this with a huge sale/price drop.

This reminds me of my old Royal Kludge 60 percent I had many, many years ago! Even the sound reminds me of the Royal Kludge pmsl.

I think this is one of the cleanest keyboards Logitech have put out in a while, but I just ordered a Wooting 60HE+ to replace my Logitech G710+ that's on its last legs. I may still look to get a slighly larger board with tactile switches for general typing, but for gaming I'm convinced of the reviews I've seen for the Wooting board to the point of buying one. I think of Logitech had hall effect switches on this with adjustable actuation and rapid trigger I may have reconsidered the purchase, but lacking those features plus a $180 price tag makes this a non-starter given the competition, and I say this as someone who got (and really likes) the Superlight 2 (to be fair, I asked for it for Christmas, but to be further fair it was the only thing I got from the family member who bought it for me, which was totally fine and expected). I've really enjoyed Logitech hardware over the years, but in the next day or so the only Logitech gear I'll be using is my Superlight 2, and my Z-2300 speakers that I've had since 2005. The G710+ has been great, but none of Logitech's larger boards offer USB-C for charging with Lightspeed wireless in a clean package and/or at a reasonable price. It's rather sad to see Logitech try to cling to this premium gaming brand when it feels like most of what they offer these days can be had for less from other competitors, or better from similarly priced or only slightly more expensive options.

If they add RT it'll be fine tbh just competing with the apex pro mini + huntsman v3 mini, i really like the volume wheel on the side

"Always put it back in the hole" - wise words my friend

If this was 2022 maybe... Now it is all about absolute sound dampening and rapid trigger and maybe 65% to 75% layouts.

Surprisingly, I can kinda see why they priced it so high. To a regular person, they'll see the G Pro X 60 at Best Buy next to something like a SteelSeries Apex Pro Mini and think "Hey, the Logitech board is cheaper, has double the battery life, and it's a better known brand". Of course, all the nerds are screaming "IT HAS NO RAPID TRIGGER!", but a casual gamer would probably glaze over it because it sounds gimmicky lol (Don't get me wrong, I love my Apex Pro TKL Wireless, and rapid trigger definitely isn't a gimmick.)

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

Very good point there. I personally don’t use rapid trigger, but I also don’t play many FPS games lately.

What are those finger socks? Name and where can I buy them.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

Lol

First off Good Morning! second I agree, I feel like this point all they're selling is their brand or rather their interface because everyone has their 60% keyboard at this point so they are indeed quite late to this market. and honestly 180 is too much to ask for. They are literally marketing their brand.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

Apple

This keyboard example is exactly why I call the brand logicrap in everything but mice. Over priced for switches that were hot 4 years ago, in a chassis size that hot 4 years ago. Every other brand has already been there, done that and has evolved their lineup with features consumers want. Not horrid optical switches in a 60% shell for $180. Often for around $20 more, you can step up into the ROG Azoth and get a lot more keyboard and functionality. not to mention WAY better battery life.

@flakey9155

Ай бұрын

The only brand better at this price is wooting. Most of the other brands have other serious flaws.

180? when wooting, monsgeek, drunkdeer exist? nah even other gaming brand like razer already playing with Rapid Trigger market. This board should be 80 to 100 max, even with that price there are a lot better board kit out there

With this keybord logitech is only ca. 4 years behind the competition in keyboard market. Every big brands started implementing hall efect keyboards, except of logitech. The only thing, which holds them up with competition is g pro superlight, which also wasn't changed much since the premiere.

should have magnetic switches and maybe it would be good (just buy wooting at this point)

Rapid trigger in 2024 is a must, behind the curve, a shame because as it looks really clean

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

yeah I actually asked them the same thing in out meeting

It’s an okay product. I think what people seem to forget is that Logitech could be top tier next to Wooting if they had rapid trigger. The Ghub software customisation already beats 99% of these backdoor rapid trigger kbs that all default to OEM factory software with awful customisation.

All them keycap sound tests r wreaking havoc on my dude's fingers!! Go easy on them boards Techne my dude, u're already down 2 of ur 10 soldiers 🤣 great vid as always

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

LOL

Always loved Logitech, been using their mice almost exclusively for over 30 years now and owned a number of great keyboard from them over that time as well. However they are definitely way behind at this point on keyboard. Too little too late, too expensive for what you get. This would be a great keyboard that could be recommended for $80 but not $180.

Love my G915 TKL… but even on sale it feels too expensive… it seems they are selling the brand at this point

@VarjoPira

Ай бұрын

Most definitely. Their marketing is very casual-oriented nowadays compared to the competition. Riding that brand recognition and old merits + IP collabs.

After watching randomfrankp roast the hell out of this thing. It's gonna be funny to see how it plays out

Sounds really really good despite the flaws

rapid trigger im sold. unfortunately no rt.

@bltelysian

Ай бұрын

why would u be sold tho. most other companies have keyboards with rapid trigger that are cheaper than this

@SP-by4vb

Ай бұрын

@@bltelysian Logitech had the capability to implement them better than others plus wireless and upto 5 inputs per key makes it better than Razer and other offerings. Only one they probably won’t beat is wooting. They stay true to consumers and by far has the best keyboard. And I’ve tried others. Arbiter, Razer and drunkdeer don’t compare to wooting imo.

@123TheCloop

Ай бұрын

@@SP-by4vb wait till you use the software, ive used logitech for years and there software is just horrendous, this is a waste of money when better options exist for less

I got my Razer Huntsman with optical switches for about 70 USD about a year ago and it has most of the important features this keyboard has. No one cares about wires on a keyboard. I 've had 99 problems but a keyboard cable ain't one.

Logitech messed up bigtime with this one. I still wonder if it isn't just a very late April Fool's Day joke.. For the EXACT SAME PRICE you can get yourself a Wooting 60HE which is BY FAR the BEST keyboard on the market. I've been using mine for half a year and I'm never going back to regular mechanical or optical. To do so is to handicap yourself. Logitech seems to have been living in it's own bubble for the past 3 years. By the way, Wooting just ended the Founders Campaign for the Wooting 80HE, so if you are looking for a best of the best keeb on the market, there is one now in 80% layout. It's only downside is it's wired only, but that's to be able to get their True 8k Polling rate and Rappy Snappy. All while being priced just a couple of bucks over the 60HE.

@insulinaddict9586

Ай бұрын

My wooting 60HE was nothing but problems can't go back to it. Would type on its own, would be unusable while gaming.

@casuallyweird4838

Ай бұрын

@@insulinaddict9586 most likely you haven’t seated the cable properly or didn’t press the switches all the way in. It’s also possible that you set Rappid Trigger at 0.1mm and it actuates from the slightest touch that it feels as if it types by itself. Wooting is at the top of the food chain and have the best QA

@insulinaddict9586

Ай бұрын

@@casuallyweird4838 Wasn't a cable issue, And I literally mean the keyboard would press on its own. Tried a couple of the Troubleshooting but it would happen too frequently where I just gave up. When it worked it was a kick ass keyboard.

I see the ninjutsu sora v2 on your desk, have you already done a video on it or are you still testing it out

MX silvers have 1,2 mm actuation, I have fnatic streak65, that has 1 mm actuation. 1,8 is a little bit much. Even the old romer g from logitech had actuation point at 1,4 mm, 45 gramm. Not sure what they are doing.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

No way 1.2, shewww. I knew they felt a bit off.

If they released this board in 2020 as a competitor to the Huntsman Mini, it would have a better shot. Theres not really a huge market anymore for this kinda thing. They're competing against Razers $110 Huntsman Mini, Asus' ROG Falchion RX 65% for $170, The Wooting 60HE+ for $175 or even the $50 GK61. They're just too late to the market and asking way too much for the board

I wanted this keyboard but I saw the price. I think they shot themselves in their leg with that. There are lots of other options for same or even less money. 60 percent keyboard...ehmmm, a bit nope, I quite prefer 75 given the price for this. Sell 20 for 180 or sell 200 for 120-ish.

Is it compatable with ps5 ?

From your reviews, Corsair made a 65% with optical switches (Corsair K65 Pro mini) with 8k polling rate, hotswap gateron optical switches for 110$. The Huntsman mini is on a discount right now at 92$. Logitech is so far behind in innovation and the prices are so expensive. The quality-price isn’t there with Logitech. Logitech was big in the 2010’s but since the pandemic they didn’t do anything .

Dongle alway goes in the hole LOL

The price point is ridiculous but also not unexpected. Logitech has always priced their stuff at a premium price, even if its not groundbreaking. That being said, I absolutely love their stuff. I have had problems with just about all the other Big name brand companies and have never been let down by Logitech.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

it feels like companies try to sell (pro & esports) branding these days

@PandaGoBoo

Ай бұрын

@TheTechne I agree 100% with you. I feel like it's mostly a hyped up word to make money. Kind of like calling a chair a gaming chair and charging more for it.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

@@PandaGoBoo lol

I think anyone playing video games for money is gonna choose a wooting over this for the same money, yikes.

Eh. I can get a hotswappable 65% board for less. They seem to have some decent ideas but yea I agree they are way too late to the party with this. If it was maybe maybe $120 they may have something but even then they would be playing catch up. Thanks for vid!

without a palmrest i just cant. looking how tilted his wrist is in the video burns my eyes. just waiting for logitech to release a keyboard with a palmrest. i mean its 200€ for this come on now.

Ngl, all this looks like to me is a wireless optical gk61 that costs 180 USD.

Wooting 60HE or get the hell of my gaming table. Wireless is nice sure. But i would throw this out the window faster then you can say RAPPID TRIGGER

with $180 i could just buy a wooting if i was looking for a gaming keyboard

This is a case of a company over leveraging brand recognition and legacy reputation. In fact, you see it a lot with many hardware gaming peripheral companies today. They get so used to things just selling for them because of the name while other companies are truly striving to offer a great product at a fair price aka value prop.

3:36 game name? It looks awesome 🎉

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

Destiny

no sleeved cable they stop sleeving there mouse cable to very cheapo IMO

I've got the wooting80he on pre order. No chance I'll buy this outdated logitech keyboard.

man dammit lol.. im a logi g whore and ive said this over and over again on youtube hehe so fml because i have to drop another $180 bucks plus tax on this.. i have to have all their mouse and keyboard gear mainly, and my most recent purchase i bought was the pro tkl keyboard and right before that the superlight 2. The only non logi thing i own is my wooting 60he. eventually ill sell my 60he since i pre-ordered and bought the 80he. But the main reason i want this 60 is because one, its logitech lol, and 2 its wireless lightspeed. but i also love all the switches and volume roller it has on the side.. like you said its a great touch.

RIGHT product.

100%! Buy the Corsair K70 mini wireless FOR 100$ instead.

Big fan of the superlight 2 but logitech keyboards they are very over price and not very good i think

Rebranded RK61 lol. You can find those for $35. Horrible stabs, caps, opti switches and 180. Unbelievable 🙂‍↔️

This is basically just an $50 SK61 but with logitech's logo on it. 4-5x the price. wow😆

What audio preset should I use with my nova pros on Xbox stereo, windows sonic or Dolby?

@Royal_recons

Ай бұрын

For competitive fps gaming

U might want to turn your space bar around

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

Nope, I flip em all. Try it = Stinkin cozy

I know people are knocking this for no HE switches and thats fair. I just think Logi is too big to be able to respond to those types of fast market changes. This board feels like they were stuck chasing razer down the optical rabbit hole. In that sense, its cool that they were able to implement those switches in wireless when I dont think razer was ever able to make it happen. People in the know are going to slam this and thats fine and warranted. Unfortunatly, logitech will sell these in best-buys and on amazon to people who have never heard of a hall effect switch and theyll make more doing that than wooting could ever dream of so unfortunalty there is no real consequences for this for them.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

Yeah I agree, and someone like me, I can personally care less about HE switches. I still prefer a classic mechanical switch.

My razer 60 analog saids yes

They realease the same shit all over again and again and again. The last keyboard I was hyped about was the wooting (and bought it) Now I use a custom ANSI keyboard for work and kept the wooting for gaming

$180 is ridiculous for this

even corsair released 60% and 75% keyboards before logitech haha

Crazy that they would say "this is what the pros wanted" when the pros are using Wooting 60HE. Also, 99.999% of the people buying this keyboard wont be pros. They'll be people who want their keyboard to sound good, and to have competitive features (sound dampening, hall-effect switches, hot-swap PCB, braided cable). After using the Wooting 60HE I don't want to go back to something worse lol.

Maybe It is just a simple misstype and 80$ is the real price tag :D (that would be decent)

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

lol

Can sense you held back some comments here

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

like what? Its a good board, but about 3 years late, and a few $ overpriced.

What happened to the time when gaming peripherals where innovative and offered even the simplest of user comforts.. Its like we continue to go back in time with these overpriced dull looking things designed for people that apparently only use it to game and nothing else. Not to mention this is years late.

It's 200 euros in Europe. Thats around 214 USD. Would be a decent buy at ~100 euros, but total garbage at 200. As much as I hate wooting, its just better from a raw performance side

@PinKeeDJ

Ай бұрын

Why do you hate Wooting?

@Zutchey

Ай бұрын

I didn't even know it was possible to hate wooting

This keyboard makes any sense lol .The sound looks bad, no rapid trigger and the price is too expansive 200 € in Europe....i don 't understand if case is in aluminum or plastic isn't written in their site....and also polling rate isn't written lol

Really clean looking board, probably one of their best, with tech in it from 2021. Come on. Logitech with their heads up their ass yet again. Swing and a miss!

I think Logitech launched this board to compete with Razer huntsman mini. I don’t think they care about what consumers know. All they know is what their big name competitions are doing

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

maybe, but way to late

I am really beginning to think that you are literally paying this to get low latency for a wireless keyboard that no one asked for.

Best thing Logitech still has is Customer Service. A lot of other comapnies are lacking.

$180 is WAY too much for this keyboard, Logitech should have made it half that price, at most. Logitech is pulling an Apple here, where you're just paying for their brand.

@TheTechne

Ай бұрын

100% feels like an Apple move 😂

Not even worth considering, I'd rather get the huntsman v3 pro tkl

Too much for too little

Logitech clearly has shifted from spending on research and development to just throwing the money at influencers for marketing. No, our product doesn’t have that now standard feature all the competitors have but… X person from Y Esports Team says it’s awesome… O…k… then

How the mighty have fallen. In Logitech's case, it's more of a freefall, though. Who are they making these for, really. I mean, we all know the answer, but.

I understand that availability might sway some people’s thought process, but to me, this is a complete miss. In a world where Wooting and other companies are coming out with true esports keyboards, this Logitech just feels tone deaf. And the price is laughably bad when Razer and Steelseries have more updated tech for almost the same money.

Logitech seems to be extremely out of touch nowadays. They used to be pushing the industry forward, and now they are just failing to catch up. They are literally turning into the next Corsair, but at least Corsair has their good pc parts to fall back on.

Is it worth MSRP? No Is it late? Yes But is it a bad product? Absolute not. It is a flawless product for what it has to offer, just too expensive.

lmao if only they dropped this 2 years ago

It looks nice, but it's overpriced.

400 AUD for a 60% keyboard 🤡🤡🤡 For what? Lightspeed wireless that lets you connect in less than twelve parsecs? Is it lined with gold? The pbt keycaps that everyone else has been doing for years now?

To be honest, I have NO CLUE what audience this keyboard is catered to. Gamers? at that price point, get the wooting. For typing? there's better and CHEAPER options than this.

There is no point of buying that keyboard, if you want portability you can find something cheeper and better, if you want gaming keyboard you buy whooting for 20 bucks more, or buy budget whooting clone for cheaper, custom keyboard entusiast will not buy that either, for portability there are cheaper options too. I don't really know who is targeted audience for that product.

I really like my logitech mouse and headset, but this is full crap.

Logitech hasn't anything that's gotten me excited in the 2 or 3 years. Pretty underwhelming products

only few years a late as usual.

This is a fantastic keyboard if we are living in 2019. Wtaf were they thinking? I like Logitech but this is straight ass. The worst part is there are people still defending this product and interested in buying it. Also idk who tf are these supposed to”pros” who gave this crap a go ahead in 2024. This would be a bad product in 2024 if it cost $100 but atleast it would be worth the price. This is insane.

Late and not even up to standard

a 60% keyboard in 2024, with no rapid trigger, or hall effect switches for the price of 180... logitech rlly fell off

Actual trash keyboard not gonna lie, $180 dollars for that is laughable, it's not even hot swap. You can get much nicer keyboards for $80, I know that a lot of gamers don't know about the custom keyboard market as they get worried that prices are too high, but to put into perspective, a company called Chilkey who are just about to release a 65% keyboard for $100 less and much better quality, backweight, tri mode hot swap PCB with a screen. This is NOT worth the money!

wooting destroyed logitech years ago. logitech dug its own grave for not investing in the correct tech.

@Aerobrake

Ай бұрын

Thanks for being honest and giving your thoughts as usual Techne, also what was the macimum polling and scan rate anyways (over wire, and wireless)? Please tell me its at least 4k

For the price, it's completely unnecessary. The features are nothing special.

this is for logi fanboys no reason to get this over other

sounds like trash for 180$ just build one yourself it's worth it.

Ha, Logitech can't walk out of 2019~2020. Their crap is outdated af and only their mindless fanboys will pay 180 dollars for this. At max this is a 60 dollar product today and for 180 dollars you'd just go for Wooting 60 HE.

For 180 bucks it sounds like shit and by the looks of it, it also feels like shit Just a gk61 with logitech name on it

first techne

logitech is lost! razer remains top