Is LeBron the best at this stage in his career?? ANNOUNCEMENT: A lot of you guys have been appreciating the new editing style lately… well thats because I actually hired an editor for the first time, and he’s Russell the same guy Apex Greatness podcast, who I’ve streamed with before. This is his channel www.youtube.com/@apexgreatness, and let’s get them WELL ABOVE 1,000 subs. They cover NBA History and hypothetical scenarios, just like I do. Thanks Russell for being my new editor!! So not only will you guys have better editing to view on the videos, but VIDEOS WILL NOW BE DAILY! This is definitely a schedule I believe we can maintain, now that I can focus all of my energy on the writing aspect, and I’ve got enough ideas to last until my heart stops.

@ItzAlfieProdzz

10 ай бұрын

Yes no one will ever be so consistent like him one of the greatest

@jaredabrahamcidfda4840

10 ай бұрын

ngl bro I personally prefer the old editing over the new one but keep up the good work

@nnanyelugooji9513

10 ай бұрын

You're doing really great, Jonny Arnett but I think doing videos on a daily basis would be stressful to you. I suggest twice or max of thrice a week

@apexgreatness

10 ай бұрын

Thank you Jonny for the opportunity! I was a fan long before we met, and this channel is a big reason why I started my channel in the first place. I'm also happy and feel great that many of you are into the new style for the content! I look forward to this new journey. P.S. Jonny is genuinely one of the nicest people I know, I felt this way before I started this, and now in this role he's been the best boss I could've asked for. I do not have to say this, but I think it matters and it should be said. Anyways, thanks everyone!

@davidwilliams316

10 ай бұрын

28 in 2013. He was almost first unamanas mvp and dpoy

The fact that you admitted to liking money as being a reason why you make certain videos is why I have immense respect for you. Funny yet honorable. Love it

@ghostbusteryan

10 ай бұрын

That part was hilarious!!

@FilledWithDetermination

10 ай бұрын

@@ghostbusteryan I was fully expecting him to say something about competitive integrity or smsht when he just said "I like money" all I could think was, my man (Denzel as Frank Lucas voice)

@Realest1ne

10 ай бұрын

And ironically, it also proves that he’s genuine in his takes because nothing makes more money than the tired MJ vs Bron debates. Yet he’s as unbiased about both of them as anybody.

@daREALtruestory

10 ай бұрын

I chuckled too lmao make all the money you can while giving us great nba content

@logicaldude3611

10 ай бұрын

Dude… everybody who makes videos like this does it because they like money lol All you hope for is that a guy won’t lose himself in pursuit of that money. Jonny seems to be pretty consistent which makes his money well-earned to me. It’s easy to make videos and change your opinions based on what you think people want to hear (which leads to more money). I’ve never really felt like Jonny has done that.

Jabbar was a monster in college. I can only imagine how many more points he would have scored if he didn’t go to UCLA for 4 years.

@Maximillian200HP

10 ай бұрын

Not to mention if the NBA tracked blocks during his first 4 years.

@codyeble6764

10 ай бұрын

He would lose that great coaching getting him ready for the NBA tho as well

@donaldmccaskill1279

10 ай бұрын

Not only that but he scored all those points without the three ball and lecrybaby has scored almost 7000 pts with the three and if he didn't have that he'd still be chasing Kareem

@thunderkai7272

10 ай бұрын

​@@donaldmccaskill1279that just means Lebron takes more difficult shots

@miguelawsome2273

10 ай бұрын

@@donaldmccaskill1279a 3 is a lot harder then a hook shot buddy.

Great breakdown, man. Just a lil bit of minor changes as Kobe only played for 20 seasons.

@sonny4978

10 ай бұрын

i was confused too lol

Great vid as always! Cheers from Brazil!

Such good content Jonny. Love the intro, never change it. Your channel is only going to get bigger, and you're going to be a deserved millionaire.

I like your content a lot. I am watching all of your videos, especially when I am working because your way of speaking and presenting the information is easy to understand even if I am not focused on the video. However, as a massive Kobe fan I would like to point out that I would have been impossible for him to average more than 8 PPG in his 21st season because he played only 20 seasons. Otherwise the video is great and I agree with you on everything. Keep up the good work!

Hahahahahahahaha this " I love money " was so perfect . Absolute banger as well , always great videos from johhny

Dang there’s a new Johnny video in my subscription every other day! Keep up the grind!

Great video, Jonny! My initial thought was that LeBron was the best at age 38, BUT you made a compelling case for Kareem being the best at age 38. I am excited to see how he will do at age 39 and how he will compare with MJ, Kareem, and Malone. This will be an exciting season. Hope you have a nice Saturday :). I am excited to hear that there will be daily videos now also.

@bobmonteiro9458

10 ай бұрын

Did you guys really watch MJ playing at 38 when he was scoring and playing defense while lebron sit still and watch game develops to get the east lay up or a open shot .. MJ goat 24/7 and let’s not forget there’s talking he’s taking PED

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

LeBron was not the best at 38, Jordan scored more points and had a ton more steals at age 39 compared to LeBron at age 38! These are all lies

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@bobmonteiro9458 tell these children that Jordan scored more points than LeBron at age 39, Jordan also had 123 steals at age 39 and LeBron has not recorded 120+ steals since 2013

@fatality1249

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352is that really you best argument?😂😂 jordan has more steals? You can’t be serious. And jordan scored more? That’s not even true😂. I think you forgot to mention Lebron is the better passer and rebounder and shot blocker. That’s not even talking about playoffs

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@fatality1249 LeBron is nowhere near a better passer than Jordan buddy, that's why he's the all time leader in turnovers and Jordan had way more seasons of 100+ offensive rebounds, at 6'6! Steals are the second most important stats in sports next to points lol

Love the new graphics and content 🙏🏾🫶🏾!!!

Like the new effects and presentation

He said “I just like money” 😂 Liked

Le Bron is going to be the GOAT of overaged players. By choosing the games you play and putting maximum effort after resting enough I think you have the formula of letting old age beat the competition for you

@dero2430

10 ай бұрын

Lebron putting up maximum effort !? Bahahaha please...

@MadeForD

10 ай бұрын

@@dero2430 lmfao as much as i agree on the roast, he did say 'by CHOOSING the games you play' as a premise

@taumoheni6208

10 ай бұрын

While also playing little to no defense and whinning to the refs for foul calls.

@Tcheera

10 ай бұрын

@@taumoheni6208 /lazygolfclap but genuine laugh on this one. I have actually replayed the video of that last second Celtics foul reaction of Bron on his knees for people who want to go into shakespearean acting, because that reaction was EPIC. I'm not denying it was a foul, but I gotta say that I cannot come up with a game in the 80s or even in the 90s that I can think of with a reaction quite like that.

@donaldmccaskill1279

10 ай бұрын

You need to watch angry old hoops fan and look at his break down of lecrybaby, he barely comes down the court, stands in one or two spots on the floor and won't move dude is stat padding ever since he was trying to break Kareem's record.

I am so happy you you like money, basket history and stats at the same time! Thank you for this wonderful minutes. ❤

Great commentary!

hey jonny!!! long time subscriber here!! i have 2 questions? are you going to post part 2 of the 75 questions? and would you ever consider making videos on your top ten of each position?

@jonnyarnett

10 ай бұрын

Yes, Part two is coming. Been slow going while trying to maintain the upload schedule, but I'm on the final few questions, so I'm quite close to dropping it. And YES, that is a great idea. I may end up making that video within the next several months.

@youngb4422

10 ай бұрын

sounds ✨phenomenal✨

I’d say Kareem.

Still love your videos and never stopped supporting you G.O.A.T Jonny

I love the tease for bron vs Jordan vid can’t wait

GH truly works miracles

I still have MJ at one but LeBron is easily the GOAT of longevity

@hzh0847

10 ай бұрын

That’s how I see it

@user-bh7pj4fz1w

10 ай бұрын

For me it’s close but I got bron since he is 38 and undeniably top 10 and debatably top 5 showing how consistently great he was but mj had the best prime

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@user-bh7pj4fz1w nonsense! LeBron didn't even score 1,600 points this year and Jordan had more steals at age 39 than LeBron did at age 33

@Swiftie-d2u

10 ай бұрын

wtf do u mean nonsense, lebron is undeniably better than mj at this age u cant argue @@hakeemolajuwon4352

@andresvoid4429

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 you're bored aren't you

Damn. I was there on release of that previous video. Does not feel like 3 years at all. It's also crazy that Bron's now entering his 6th season for the Lakers

these new graphics in the backround are dope

Love your videos Jonny big fan. I hate doing this, but correction on players who played 21 seasons. Vince, Parish, Dirk, Garnett, and Willis played 21+, not Vince, Parish, Dirk, Kobe, and Kareem.

@jonnyarnett

10 ай бұрын

No worries. I’m firing my editor 😂 Jk. Thanks for bringing that to my attention!

@randysavage1011

10 ай бұрын

@@jonnyarnett you’re on my Mount Rushmore of NBA KZreadrs. One little mistake is nothing.

Simply because I like money....haha good old Jonny😂

I always know about Kareem in his twilight years but Malone was still playing great too, i guess i forget just cuz i don't want to remember him for other things

even as a Mj and Kobe fan, YES. He really i's a *physical specimen.* That's what they call him, right?

@shaft9000

10 ай бұрын

Well, he sort of has to be. Other than passing and finishing at the rim, his bag is pretty shallow.

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

Buddy Jordan at age 39 scored more points than LeBron did at age 38! Not to mention Jordan had 123 steals at age 39 and LeBron hasn't done that since 2013

@Mt554.

10 ай бұрын

​​​@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Jordan at 39 : 20ppg 6reb 3asts on 44% from the field, Lebron at 38 : 29ppg 8reb 7asts on 50% from the field , Jordan at 38 couldnt couldnt make the playoffs in the weakest east of all time Lebron at 38 made the confernce finals in the tuffest conference of all time Give me the guy who at least made the playoffs, in a much more tuffer conference.

@Mt554.

10 ай бұрын

​@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Lebron had more rebounds at age 38, and jordan hasnt done that since , well never 38 yr old lebron is still a better rebounder than prime mj

@Zamppa86

10 ай бұрын

@@Mt554. Current West is not the tuffest conference of all time, not even close. Go back at the latter half of the 2000s to see season(s) that required 50 wins to make the playoffs through the West! Nowadays we have a play in tournament, a joke, so more teams have chances to make it. But during Kobe's best yeast it actually required 50 wins to make the 8th seed.

What happens if we give GOAT (MJ) a prime A.D. in Washington? Year 38-39

@jonnyarnett

10 ай бұрын

Assuming Etan Thomas doesn't fall on MJ's leg.... oh man, they probably would have won the East tbh. Not the stiffest competition in that conference at that time. Nets were good, Bucks were good, etc, but all the GREAT teams were in the West

@tech-no-logictech9743

10 ай бұрын

@@jonnyarnettI'm still not over that knee injury. And Jermaine O'Neal + the refs.😤🥲

You have to point out against which teams are those 55 games and the W/L ratio. I'm not implying stat padding, but ...

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

That's literally stat padding

@christjosh8853

10 ай бұрын

I'm sorry comments like this are just so out of touch with reality. He's amazing. He's one of the best players ever. He doesn't only just check in when they are losing so he can stat pad are you serious ? Please watch nba games in entirety and stop watching ESPN. ESPN is full of absolute morons. The only respectable people on there is Richard Jefferson That's literally it

@CrazyxEnigma

10 ай бұрын

​@@christjosh8853It's pointless trying to reason with people that hate anything this much. LeBron could save a child from a burning building and they'll complain LeBron had to make a spectacle of doing a good deed or some other bs.

@MistahJay7

9 ай бұрын

Oh so now the entire NBA is weak lol first the east is weak and now anyone that plays LeBron is trash lmao

@christjosh8853

9 ай бұрын

@@CrazyxEnigma that's so true lol he gets both sides of the spectrum where people hate him for literally no reason and then on the other side he has super fans who would argue about the size of his penis and try to convince you it's huge 🤣 it's like there's no winning why can't everyone just be normal

0:35 damn I been watching your videos for 3 years already?

How do Lebron's stats hold up if you average them out with games played? Lebron sits about 1/3 of the season. Anyone who's 35+ can tell you that they can still be great, it's the recovery for that 2nd and 3rd game that kill you.

@Jonathan-A.C.

10 ай бұрын

He’s played almost the most minutes in NBA history, to be fair

@rankarat

10 ай бұрын

Yea but he didn't play them consecutively, it's a fraud.

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@Jonathan-A.C. lmao yeah that's because LeBron checked back into games in the 4th during 20pb blow outs

@Jonathan-A.C.

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 The salt is real. He’s played 20 years and went to 10 Finals. Those aren’t “scrub minutes”. You’re just a hater

@MrE_

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 and scores 27ppg only in 4th quarters? Lol. How can he average 20+ppg by only playing 4th quarters

The thing I hate most about this discussion is when people say Lebron is "only 38 and not in his 40s." He is 550 minutes off of playing the most minutes in NBA history (regular + playoffs). At 38, he's played 10,000 MORE minutes that Kareem did at 38. But then people act like that somehow is going to do less damage to his body than going to college? Kareem's longevity is insane, especially for a 7'2, 220 pounder who began his career in the 1960s, but in no way is there even a debate anymore, Lebron has the greatest longevity in basketball history and is up there in that category in all of sports. If you want to say Kareem is the greatest 38 year old then fine, but those two at 38 are not the same length into their careers. Kinda crazy that LBJ passing Kareem in total minutes played isn't a topic being talked about that much though.

@andrewcook1246

10 ай бұрын

LeBron does to haters what OJ does to white people, what Trump does to Dems and what Chappelle does to the lgbtq+-. They completely lose the ability to think. Some people just bring it out of other people. Nba season is murder compared to a short college season and he never took a year off. Its downright ridiculous how they wanna downplay this.

@mateo02_

10 ай бұрын

that’s what happens when an athletic anomaly spends millions on his body, and nba teams having modern medicine and training. greatest athletic specimen ever. but as a player, he’s in he same tier as jordan. i hate picking one over the other. why downplay two insane careers??

@Dotsetc

10 ай бұрын

I'd agree, however like you said, Kareem Abdul Jabbar didnt spend 1 milli a year on his body and the tools he had were mediocre in comparable to players today. The type of play matters too as in Lebron has played in a physical era, but nit after his athletic prime. If Kareem played in the same era's and had this many tools to use, chances are big he'd be even better at 38. They arent far off really.

@Dunk1It1Hard

10 ай бұрын

Forget to mention TRT and HGH

@shaft9000

10 ай бұрын

@@mateo02_ Please let us cut the nonsense. LeBronze is not remotely close to Jordan. It was understood by many as early as summer 2011. - but the NBA has a marketing agenda, and a sucker is born every minute. So here we are.For those of you in possession of a redeemable intellect, recognize this: *The difference between MJ and LBJ is* _another Top 15 All-Time player_ = _at least_ *2 more chips mvps and fmvps, 3 more b2b title defenses, DPOTY way more all-defensive teams and way WAY more scoring titles...and all in far less time.* Even Jonny hasn't done quite enough research to understand how good Jordan was, because if he had, he'd realize that the more you study MJs game.... _the better he gets._ He's frankly 'the goat of goats', and the reason the term exists in the 1st place - so much so that people in every walk of life don't just describe the very best in _any_ field by saying " the Michael Jordan of X" for nothing. So please, kids...do your homework before making such piss-poor claims. P E A C E

Yes, much respect to Kareem and Wizards MJ, but past age 36 Bron clears everyone

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

Nonsense! LeBron has scored less than 1,700 points in the past 5 seasons and has scored less than 2,000 points in 10 of his 20 seasons

@Zythroxes

10 ай бұрын

​@@hakeemolajuwon4352if you value total points so much then is lebron being the all time leading scorer with the most points ever a big deal to you? Be consistent buddy

@gungrave10

10 ай бұрын

With AD carrying him? yes

Not because I have a dog in the fight but because I like money... Two great quotes in your last two videos, that was hysterical

When comparing either season or age, there is going to be some uncertainty to the comparisons. One could argue, like you said, that age is a more fair comparison than season. However, in terms of "NBA" age or "NBA miles" LeBron also would have gone through 1-2 more NBA seasons + playoffs - which to be fair - is a lot more wear and tear on his body than the other player would have experience in college. It's kind of hard to compare apples to apples unless we're comparing to Garneer or Kobe or others drafted out of high school also.

Yes, Hands down, going into his 6 season as a Laker too, very long Career 🦁🐐

The guy has to be on TRT. That stuff turns your body back into a 20 something year old. Like it did with Belfort in MMA. He went from barely hanging on to chiseled and dominating. We know the NBA isn't strict on it's testing at all either.

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

Yeah that must be why he missed 27 games this season and didn't even score 1,600 points! Did you see how many games LeBron checked back into games down by 20 points just to get his points?

@benlazzopina-wy9om

10 ай бұрын

when was he ever barely hanging on

@arthurbrown-jy2ez

10 ай бұрын

I'm so glad someone else is saying this I need a blood test done and regular testing after that done . Why is there no drug testing done in the NBA? I don't believe he is doing this naturally being that big and fast at that age I smell peds in the air

@MumrikDK

10 ай бұрын

Surely they all are.

@anodizedt

10 ай бұрын

@@arthurbrown-jy2ezyall act like every player is doom too this you dont think theres any anomaly for one player to stay healthy long emough or just wveryone has to faze out at 39?

I would love if you did a video on the best rookie of the year.

Damn i didnt know that the mailman was still sending mail at age 38 ✉️🐐

PACE. You have to factor pace. Malone put up those stats in one of the slowest paced seasons of all-time, while LeBron put up his stats in the fastest paced season ever. More possessions = more stats.

@shanemcmillan4115

10 ай бұрын

Yes but at the same time that pace is also what makes it harder to stay healthy. If that was the pace then and style of play it might be hard to maintain that many games in a season.

@hepwo91222

10 ай бұрын

also Malone played an amazing 80 games at 38 years old as the best player on his team, Lebron played 55 games and is the second best player on his current team (AD is just a bit better at this point in their careers). Karl Malone was better overall at 38.

@mustafamete6567

7 ай бұрын

Bron has more per, TS, eFG, BPM, VORP. Literally every advanced stats work for Bron's favor. With or without pace Bron clearly better than Malone.

If you analyze how he obtains the data, you can come to the conclusion that he takes up the most of the team's ball rights, while his teammates lose more ball rights than before, so his teammates' The data has dropped significantly compared to before he was his teammate, and James has his own truce rules. He is more likely to take a rest when encountering a strong team, but he still works hard on the court when he is against a weak team or the victory or defeat no longer matters. There are too many examples of this. Analyzing his scoring area, he is more close to the basket. He does not have the comprehensive scoring methods of Kobe/Jordan/Durant. His role is more like an enhanced role player, requiring everyone on the team to work for him. Sacrifices were made for his style of play, which is why Wade gave up the ball to him in the Heat, because he couldn't do what Wade could do. And what he can do is what Wade can do. He is a person packaged by the league who relies on the help of referees and is still beaten 0-4. Why does a basketball player have four media companies? In my eyes he will never be better than Bill Russell, Magic Johnson, Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Charles Barkley, Kobe Bryant, Curry, Larry Bird, Dirk Novis Key, Tony Parker, Tim Duncan, not to mention Jordan, he is not even an athlete in terms of sportsmanship. He ran away when he encountered setbacks. He was just a super internet celebrity who used the Internet to succeed and was a coward on the basketball court. He made money but never got my respect, a man who lied to everyone and his lies continued throughout his career

@visionary515

10 ай бұрын

All facts...he plays no defense. Handles the ball on offense 98% of the time and shoots on average of 22 times per game on dunks and layups. I'm just so tired of the delusion.

@MistahJay7

9 ай бұрын

@@visionary515 You're also a casual that knows nothing about hoops. Yall even lie to and make up random stats Bron haters like you will forever be the biggest failures with no friends or people that even care about them. None of yall can even play the game

@MistahJay7

9 ай бұрын

LeBron haters like you bums are the type of losers that got picked last in pick up games out on the court. The cancer that nobody wanted on there team

Factor in load management, PED use, and defensive stats as well.

@jonnyarnett Can you do a piece on Carmelo Anthony’s career? I think he’s unfairly criticized when other great players took routes like he did.

I have Kareem slightly ahead of Lebron. He was so damn good at 38; not to take away from Lebron though. I have Lebron as the GOAT as he is the most well rounded player the game as ever seen and the fact he has had this longevity of high production is amazing to see as a sports fan. I LOVE and I mean love.. MJ, Kareem, Wilt, Kobe, and Russell as they are Legends of the history of basketball. They’ll have their pros and cons versus Lebron but his individual skill set is just too damn good across the board.

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

Karl Malone produced and played much better than both LeBron and Kareem at age 38! You guys don't know basketball, seriously

@wg5331

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Postman was great but again, he wasn’t the total package that Lebron is.

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@wg5331 Lmao oh really! Is that why Malone had 100 more points, 100 more steals and 50 more blocks than LeBron at age 38?! Buddy, since you didn't watch Malone play that season, just go look at the numbers.

@schameekkershaw7570

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352no lie that’s great but at the same time it don’t really mean nothin when Bron passed him and Kareem within almost a season and a half maybe less lol

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@schameekkershaw7570 I'm sure Karl Malone would have 45k points if he had decided to join the best players from his conference for 13 straight seasons just like LeBron did lol that's the difference between the top 5 points leaders and LeBron, those players were actually trying to win, they weren't checking back into games in the 4th in a 20p blowout just to pad those stats

playing less games has an immense impact on ones averages as they get older...

@NotGord

10 ай бұрын

Yes, meanwhile Kareem was playing 80 games at that age.

@LunaticTheCat

8 ай бұрын

So you're just gonna ignore all the playoff games LeBron plays?

Hey johnny i’ve been thinking about starting a youtube channel, focused around the nba, nfl, and madden/2k. Is it worth my time? I guess what i’m really asking is would I still get paid even if i don’t absolutely take off? I really wanna start but i don’t wanna waste my time

You’re a real one for saying you like money 😂 💯

Can you please make a video of HOW GOOD WAS TOM CHAMBERS

Being active in the NBA for 20 years is no mean feat. If you think about it that way, Kobe and Kareem, who were active as NBA players even in their 40s, are truly amazing.

@peter2oo151

10 ай бұрын

Kobe retired at age 37

@MumrikDK

10 ай бұрын

​@@peter2oo151and only got to 41.

@NotGord

10 ай бұрын

Kareem has been the only functional player in his 40s so far.

Wow Kareem was very impressive he’s like that Honda that doesn’t have crazy speed but just keeps on running

What does the star next to parish mean?

Adjust his and Kareems and Kobes stats to 01-02 pace and possessions and vice versa to each of their eras. The current era is closest to the 60s, it's just not comparable to eras of past. Stats way too inflated all across the board.

@poly_g6068

10 ай бұрын

Only scoring. Steals and blocks are deflated.

@HailKingCeezer

10 ай бұрын

rebounding for guards are inflated and assists are inflated positionally now. Stocks are the least prestigious of the 3 major stats. No one cares if one guy gets 2 more blocks in another era, but 6 more points and assists and rebounders? thats auto seen as a better player without looking into stat inflation. They just carry more weight and now comps are distorted @@poly_g6068

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

Only the averages are inflated not the actual numbers. Teams today take about 5x as many threes as in the 90's and still players are recording less points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks

@HailKingCeezer

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 theyre averging insane statlines in like 30 minutes of play. It's ridiculous.

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@HailKingCeezer They're averaging a huge stat line because they don't play full seasons. The league leader scored 2,225 points this season and that would've been like #4 in most seasons of the 90's! Look at the steals and blocks and especially rebounds!

LeBron himself says he's chasing the ghost of Jordan but the argument for LeBron being the GOAT is being played out with LeBron looking to surpass Kareem's longevity/consistency GOAT case... At the end of LeBron's career the GOAT argument will be how dominant Jordan was at his peak vs how consistent Lebron was for the longest stretch in NBA history 🐐🐐

@reillyhopf6508

10 ай бұрын

Lebron has better longevity than Kareem now. Looking at age vs age is worse than looking at season vs season because of the fact that Kareem had 10,000 less minutes on his body at 38 than LBJ.

@ktapreswreckd921v9

10 ай бұрын

Very intelligent observation being made about James and Michael's career comparison s

@bluntsensei

10 ай бұрын

@@ktapreswreckd921v9 Thanks, I've really been thinking about since Lebron got his 4th ring

We may never see another player dominate his whole career

Love your videos! Just wanted to point out you incorrectly credited Dirk for being an All Star in year 20. He was definitely not. In year 21 tho you're indeed correct.

I think if you can't play 60 games you shouldn't be the best at nothing.

Notice the trend... every other player compared to James have played over 70 games whereas he has only played 55. Not playing is easier on your body AND helps boost your stats because you didn't have to maintain them during 20 to 25 more games. Add to that, that these players weren't ring chasing so they were not on contenders at all so that's another thing to take into perspective.

@JackRobinson-cp7tw

10 ай бұрын

bron has played the most playoff games of all time though… didn’t see you mentioning that toll to his body

@visionary515

10 ай бұрын

​@@JackRobinson-cp7twmj didn't miss any games from 1995 to 1998 that includes playoff runs to the finals every year. Those games don't bother lebron due to his P.E.D usage

@pumelelabanca1442

10 ай бұрын

​@@visionary515So L.B.J has his own dealer? That other players con not access?

@yoofij4724

10 ай бұрын

He was injured though... 🤨

@Saulgud23

10 ай бұрын

​@@visionary515 when you can't find any way to discredit him you will always fall back on the claim he uses peds

Thanks!

@jonnyarnett

10 ай бұрын

Thanks man!! You just helped cover my grocery trip tomorrow, and that means a lot :)

@GMoneyXL1969

10 ай бұрын

@jonnyarnett Your welcome. Keep the incredible work of being an unbiased basketball historical analysis. Hope your hard work leads to greater highlights.

The joke about "loving money" was nice

Great 👍 video Jonny yet again! I said it before. James is the most complete basketball player ive seen. And I have been watching basketball since the 80's, His skills and physical attributes along with his unselfish team play making and his longevity just adds to his completeness. I know Jonny disagree with me. But unlike Larry, Michael, Kobe and even Duncan. The only thing James lacks is a clutch gene. Otherwise he's about as complete as a basketball player can get.

@KBFilmRoom

10 ай бұрын

Closing games is the biggest part about Greatness imo but I respect your opinion

@ktapreswreckd921v9

10 ай бұрын

@@KBFilmRoom Thanks. Lebron's lack of a clutch gene shouldn't diminish the fact that he is a complete player. Some great players we're born with it. Some weren't. Thanks again.

@aswanwilliam

10 ай бұрын

I’ve been watching since the ‘80’s and Bron has a clutch gene. He has numerous playoff performances to prove it. You couldn’t have been watching basketball 😂

@ktapreswreckd921v9

10 ай бұрын

@@aswanwilliam Im sorry. For as complete of a game James posses. He can't be trusted to hit two crucial free throws. I've seen him miss them time and time again. Michael, Larry, Earvin and Kobe could be surely counted on to make crucial free throws in clutch moments.

I love your videos Johnny and even though your extremely biased to MJ and have a weird dislike for lebron you can’t really make a case for Kareem. Kareem in his 20th season was averaging 10 points and wasn’t even the 4th best player on his team, lebron is held to this ridiculous standard even while being at the age of someone who’s suppose to be retired.

@jonnyarnett

10 ай бұрын

I appreciate the fact that you like and watch the videos, but I’m not gonna lie. Some takes of LeBron fans confuse me. “Weird dislike for LeBron”…. I called LeBron the best at everything in the video EXCEPT when compared specifically to Kareem 38 year old Finals MVP run. Unless I beg LeBron to sleep with me, apparently some people will always think it’s not enough love and respect 😂 I think that says more about how much people are biased to LeBron, than about how much I “dislike” him.

4:13 fair enough. honest and valid LMFAO

Solid video. I think your argument for Kareem was shaky.

Maybe he didn't have the better season than Kareem at 38yo, but when you combine the fact it's his 20th season and that they did somehow managed to get in WCF and challenge the Nuggets, it's very impressive. It doesn't change the GOAT status of MJ in my eyes. Also, we tend to forget how great Karl Malone was and that he was the iron man of the NBA before LeBron...

@footballhighlights7222

10 ай бұрын

AD is the better player in the Lakers team in my eyes

@NewwxNeww

10 ай бұрын

im glad we forget about that bum

@footballhighlights7222

10 ай бұрын

without him, no bubble ring and playoffs@@NewwxNeww

@shaft9000

10 ай бұрын

LeBron DID have the better reg season than Kareem., but not anywhere remotely close to a better playoffs. Getting swept, and shut down at the end like that on consecutive attempts... _Ooof!_

@lukeannett

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately he was terrible against the Nuggets while Kareem dominated and won the Championship.

Thank you! Kareem was winning titles and was a key part of the showtime lakers success even tho he was past 40. He actually played defense too against all time great centers much younger than him. The Lebron narrative that Klutch sports pays all these media companies to say " he is 38 years old in year 20" bamboozles folks. Kareem and MJ were doing much more than stat padding Lebron James. Also go Nuggets!

@sportstalkonly1442

10 ай бұрын

Jordan was trash af on the wizards. Kareem wasn't better than lebron at age 38. Cry about it

@joerents7902

10 ай бұрын

@@sportstalkonly1442 ok Bronny James.🤣

@sportstalkonly1442

10 ай бұрын

@@joerents7902 OK then what did Jordan do on the wizards to say he was better than lebron at this age. Remind me. Kareem is a more acceptable answer but he still wasn't better than lebron. Jordan isn't even close to comparable at this age.

@alphadjalo1227

10 ай бұрын

@@sportstalkonly1442I don’t wanna hate or nothing but u have to understand that MJ was on the wizards they didn’t have the likes of AD reaves and others and we will start to see more and more players playing at the level that they used to play at at the likes of 39 as technology gets better

@alphadjalo1227

10 ай бұрын

@@sportstalkonly1442I have no hate for bron and believe he is one of the best to play but mj and Kareem didn’t have the technology to keep themselves at that standard but that should not take anything away from bron

Kareem was an Allstar at age 38 and averaged 10.1 ppg

Kareem’s 85 finals is maybe the most underrated individual series ever

Kinda impossible to compare players in different eras. Kareem was fighting his way inside the paint in "team deathmatch" 80s, while Lebron was running around in "family show no defence" current NBA. Nonetheless, interesting video to watch and see how they compare statistically

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

And yet somehow Karl Malone and Jordan both scored more points than LeBron at ages 38 and 39

@gayfrickinfrog7168

10 ай бұрын

​@@hakeemolajuwon4352because they are scorers and lebrons a facilitator?

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@gayfrickinfrog7168 a facilitator?! Buddy it took lebron 20 years just to catch Magic in assists but he's had more turnovers than him for at least 4 seasons

@knownasking7607

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352they barely have more points dispite playing 30 more games. And by your logic lebron is a better scorer than mj because he has more points😂

@gayfrickinfrog7168

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 ok? You're clearly being willfully obtuse as Lbj plays small forward and is pass first, and not point guard like magic. Meaning he scores at a high level and washes mj and malone in terms of play making. He isnt magic, he can pass as well as him, but in miami for seasons and in fhe cavs he's had to be a scorer. So he isnt focused on one thing like mj or magic. He's had to delegate his efforts. Just say you dont watch the man play and havent watched basketball over the last 2 decades and admit you sit in your basement watching mj highlights. Lebron hasnt got more assists than magic. He he doesnt average more than mj per game. But he does the combo of both, better than either could imagine.

Bring back the HGWT series? Also Lebron is the best 38 year old. Kareem played with prime Magic and Lebron 2nd best player is a guy that doesn't want to be great

@jonnyarnett

10 ай бұрын

Bro, it is so crazy that you just commented that, because 2 videos next week will be in that series for Dwight Howard and Dwyane Wade.

@nickbalenzano8339

10 ай бұрын

@@jonnyarnettLETS GOOO THATS GONA BE HYPE

what was tim duncan doing at age 38? kicking that some goat's ass in the finals? 4-1 something?

PLEASE A VIDEO ON DREAM TEAM 2 (94 FIBA TEAM) PLEASE

Lebron has been a part time player for at least the last few years, load management to the extreme! Makes it quite easy to Stat pad when you're not out there every game giving 100%

@hzh0847

10 ай бұрын

You don’t watch basketball he doesn’t load manage at all has he been injured? Yes but never a load manager

@reillyhopf6508

10 ай бұрын

you people are absolutely insane I swear.

@SCHD-DGRO24

10 ай бұрын

@@hzh0847 biggest load manager in the NBA, sits games out if he's tired. How many 82 game seasons has that sally played during his career? Lmao

@Spawn3582

10 ай бұрын

​@@hzh0847Lebron has load managed a couple times but for the most part he's definitely been injured

@thediseaseisthecure

10 ай бұрын

@@hzh0847 He load manages on D every single game

Ironically, if you survey NBA fans, former and current players on their choice of the GOAT and the greatest Laker ever they will most likely pick Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant respectively.

@dusk6159

10 ай бұрын

It's not ironic, it's obvious stuff because the glitz and the glamour is always the main pick. Not, in this case, Lebron and Magic

@tlxxlt4745

10 ай бұрын

​@@dusk6159ironically, Kobe isn't better than LeBron. The only reason you have him above is because of "killer instinct". Bullshit.

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@tlxxlt4745 Kobe is a better shooter, a better finisher at the rim, a better post player and a better defender.... LeBron is like a Scottie Pippen that never had Jordan

@hepwo91222

10 ай бұрын

best Laker ever IMHO, is Magic. Lebron wasn't a Laker long enough to get that title otherwise he might have a good case. As for Kobe, he often wasn't even the best player on his team (Shaq was waaaay better for their 3 championships together, I mean it wasn't close). Where Magic other than his first championship where Kareem was the best player on the team, after that, every other title run, Magic was the best player on the team at that point.

@dusk6159

10 ай бұрын

@@tlxxlt4745 I actually meant that it's sadly the main pick for everybody else I too have Lebron as the goat and of course Magic as the greatest Laker

I would put Malone ahead of LeBron at age 38 because of their availability. Malone played in just over 75% of his teams game-minutes while LeBron played in 50%.

@hepwo91222

10 ай бұрын

yeah, 80 games at 38 years old with significant minutes too, being the best player on the team, or Lebron with 55 games great stats but the second best player on his team, I think Karl Malone was the better player at 38.

Lebron definitley set the bar high for people trying to take on father time.

No, he isn't.

Jabbar was also doubled-teamed every possession.

@onlyfacts3178

10 ай бұрын

against the bad boys with 2 bigs under the rim hitting him hard...

Kareem at 7’2” and 220lbs? Wow, he never dipped his toes into PEDs.

How do u mention the petty all star for Dirk but not kobe

LeBron has the media by his side and fans.

@jjab430

10 ай бұрын

And the facts and statistics too, don't forget that.

@MistahJay7

9 ай бұрын

LeBron haters are just failures at life.

Lebron's flopping ability hasn't gone down one bit.

@jimbojimbo6873

10 ай бұрын

Chris.P still the GOAT at that

@Ytndarren

10 ай бұрын

his flopping doesnt make him a bad nba player lol, he still holds 2nd place flopping or not

@Sldumas1983

10 ай бұрын

@@Ytndarren2nd place to who

@Sldumas1983

10 ай бұрын

Kobe is a better Baller than Bron but Bron has more achievements

@Ytndarren

10 ай бұрын

@@Sldumas1983 to jordan

The last part about season 21, you added Kobe and Kareem. However, they never played season 21. Kevin Garnett and Kevin Willis can replace them.

Just wanna help the video 🎉🎉

year 20, Lebron the best to ever do it, age 38 though? I think Karl Malone as the best player on his team and starting 80 games was superior. Also Kareem as it was pointed out, even if he was really the second best player on his team at that point. Lebron only played 55 games last season, great stats in a limited time frame. So Karl and Kareem were better at 38.

@sportstalkonly1442

10 ай бұрын

Kareem sure. Karl malone absolutely not

@christiancevallos9820

10 ай бұрын

This is such poor reasoning lol. Bron put up these stats coming off of an injury and said stats are still far ahead of malone and Kareem. Neither of them were better

@jeromegarner7196

10 ай бұрын

@@christiancevallos9820prove that he was injured. What has he done for this injury?

@christiancevallos9820

10 ай бұрын

@@jeromegarner7196 Fuck you mean it was reported he had a tendon injury?

@sportstalkonly1442

10 ай бұрын

@@jeromegarner7196 kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXqb18lplLyzqM4.htmlsi=NSnnR716trp3rLsc

Saying Kareem was better than lebron because of a 6 game stretch where Kareem arguably was the third best player on his team is quite insane when you think about it Kareem averaged less point rebounds assists in the playoffs than lebron but apparently only showing up for 6 games is more impressive so by your logic Jamal Murray this season is also better than lebron which is an unfathomable statement

@christiancevallos9820

10 ай бұрын

Real tho. Plus that was a 1 seed lakers. Kareem performed vastly worse than Bron in the regular season yet still got the 1 seed meaning his team was solid. Bron got stuck with a 7th seed team and still got to tbe conference finals. Putting Kareem over bron is crazy

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

You know what's insane?! LeBron has had multiple 25ppg+ scorers in multiple Finals and still hasn't won them all! Pretending LeBron was ever as good as Kareem is a laughable lie

@connorjackson9819

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 you know what’s even more insane Kareem has played with a dude who won 2 mvps WHILE HE PLAYED WITH HIM lebron never had a teammate win mvp and only has ever had one teammate make first team all nba (hint wasn’t D wade) also neither has Kareem btw 1989 James worthy averaged 25.5 points in the finals so I see you still haven’t gotten that brain

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@connorjackson9819 what?! Wade was in the MVP race and all 3 of LeBron, Wade and Bosh made all NBA team and they were all in their primes! You tell me how that's not more help than having just one guy who happened to win MVP?!

@connorjackson9819

10 ай бұрын

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 one it’s two guys as stated above even tho the lakers had a season with 3 20 point scorers other than Kareem btw and James worthy clears bosh all time and magic Johnson clears d wade so wtf you on about and dude please get a brain it’s frustrating like can you not read it was says FIRST team ALL NBA d wade never made first team all nba while playing with lebron you should really stop embarrassing yourself because thats second time you’ve used false information

This is the reason people don't put Wilt as the best scorers all time. Because of games played because no one compares to Wilt but they didn't play enough games during most of his career. Which is why Mike is known as the best scorer game to game

8:39 error on the Kobe graphic my guy. Mamba retired at season 20

Look, what LeBron is doing at this stage of his career is incredible. I will not take that away from him. But eras matter. When memes compare stats of Lebron in his youth and prime ( 08-14) to his old age now, its making it seem like Lebron is on the same level and or better than when he was at that young age. You have to be an idiot to believe that. This era is extremely inflated and easy compared to the 90s and 2000s.

@christiancevallos9820

10 ай бұрын

Well no Brons number are still not as good as his previous primes but why is it so crazy to believe that he can still put up Hall of Fame stats at his age? I mean he did win a championship just three years ago and still took a bummy 7th seed lakers to the conference finals this year so why is it crazy? Maybe, just maybe, he’s still an excellent player

it's not about his age, it's about his 21st season

@jonnyarnett

10 ай бұрын

This video is about both

@AllBetzOff

10 ай бұрын

And age as well because age plays a big part

@jasonpascual5426

10 ай бұрын

lebum fans always find a excuse or an exemption for their queen.. it's funny that they can use lebums age to praise him and also uses it to make an excuse 😂😂😂 hipocrites

@VelaniTheOne

10 ай бұрын

Well its rather unfair when people have not always been allowed to go right from high school to the NBA

@jasonpascual5426

10 ай бұрын

and I want to add up don't blow up lebum 21 year so much.. just in lakers he missed 1 and half season in total kiddo hahaha.. 132 misses game in lakers ALONE... when he said he's not cheating the game.. it mean he's cheating the game... he always uses his "injury" as an excuse for his load management.. and ironically nothing change about his speed and elevation.. he can score 40 and his injured? hahaha.. and also funny is that.. nothing has been reported about any treatment or surgery IF he is really injured 😂🤡

4:18 😂😂😂

btw the new graphics are 🔥🔥🔥🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾

LeBron’s competition at season 21 is laughably bad 🤣

@poly_g6068

10 ай бұрын

It's literally the exact opposite

@adammoreno2127

10 ай бұрын

troll

Lebron is great at his age , yes. However The change in the league has also helped him attain great stats at his age and him not playing full seasons has helped him have large per game stats as well. Lebron is always paradox and not even close to the goat 🐐

@TheReBrandNetwork

10 ай бұрын

How when he went to 8 straight finals… how many games was that?

@MistahJay7

9 ай бұрын

We get it you failed at life.

Great video as always, but KAJ 🐐 only played 20 seasons in the NBA, not 21!

Long time watcher here, good watch, though I feel like LeBron taking 20+ games off the last few years to make sure he is rested enough to keep these averages up should be mentioned. Would love to see this same list, but totals, instead of averages.

@kadent7573

8 ай бұрын

Now totals matter 😹😹😹

Robert Parish won a title in his 40s, I think that makes him the greatest old NBA player

@jaredabrahamcidfda4840

10 ай бұрын

he was a role player at that point, he averaged less then 6 ppg that season

@shy265

10 ай бұрын

😂

@Ytndarren

10 ай бұрын

bro got carried, lebron didnt get carried 2020

@howardmighty6764

10 ай бұрын

i think you meant "oldest player to occupy a roster spot on a championship team"

@celtics17banners84

10 ай бұрын

On the Bulls?!?! 🤣 He was great on the Celtics, but that was long before that

...well I guess if Kobe was allowed to walk 5 steps before dunking I think is numbers would rise... :D

@titankiller5287

10 ай бұрын

Kobe played in the same era try harder

@Scythe3D

10 ай бұрын

​@@titankiller5287own that delusional kobe fan😂

@Knicksfan7

10 ай бұрын

Still was only averaging 17 ppg off of a horrific 35% shooting, Brons putting up much better stats, got his team to the playoffs and somehow gets slandered for it while people say “Kobe is old” as an excuse.

@redbogaming6009

10 ай бұрын

Kobe played in the same era

@hakeemolajuwon4352

10 ай бұрын

@@titankiller5287 Kobe wasn't allowed to travel like that tho

I know it's out of a player's control, but players retiring in the Dead Ball era being compared to players in the easiest offensive era in NBA history is a bit unfair. There's a lot of inflation in offensive stats in the last 5 or so years.

@jonathank786

10 ай бұрын

Explain the inflation pls?

@kkbaby30

10 ай бұрын

@@jonathank786 Stat inflation: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKh5s9qqhsq2YJc.html Rule changes: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pml1xdJmqKy2gM4.html Rule changes: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aH2EurWqf8vfm8o.html Stat inflation: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k46D1MV6grDUp5c.html LeBron benefits from inflation: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2ypy6aueLLUaJM.html

True statement