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Is Kevin Durant Celebrated as he Should be? | THE ODD COUPLE
THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker discuss what to make of Kevin Durant and the lack of credit he gets despite what he's accomplished.
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Why would anybody argue KD over Kobe?? It's obviously Kobe
@manofaith75
5 ай бұрын
That's your subjective opinion; not everyone perceives the world the way you do.
@iTuber012
5 ай бұрын
It's part of the klutch media movement to continue to make Kobe less and less valued over time
@LordMizukage_
5 ай бұрын
@@manofaith75 I don't see how it's not a fact tbh.... I genuinely don't see how you make an argument for KD over Kobe, its not even a logical discussion
@choosenone20901
5 ай бұрын
Why is it obvious
@LordMizukage_
5 ай бұрын
@@choosenone20901 Kobe has 5 rings and was the best player in basketball, without golden state it's very likely KD still has 0 rings and was never the best player in basketball
Taking KD over Kobe is crazy
@theblackbolt5514
5 ай бұрын
KD is better
@ArmsFerrigno
5 ай бұрын
Lunacy
@TheSwagIsBack
5 ай бұрын
@@theblackbolt5514fuck no
@vintagemonte
5 ай бұрын
KD beat Kobe otw to the finals
@vulcanraven9701
5 ай бұрын
@@theblackbolt5514 KD cant win without curry
Anyone who tries to argue Durant over Kobe doesn't know basketball.
@hassh3727
5 ай бұрын
I would love to hear from Broussard on who says this??!! I’ve never heard of anyone say Durant over Kobe 😂 the black mamba was a lock down defender
@mr3000sr
5 ай бұрын
He lying if he say that
@Ksmoove0824
5 ай бұрын
Facts
@fadercreek
5 ай бұрын
at all
@mandomunoz7367
5 ай бұрын
I disagree. People that can’t these debates are stans.
He's celebrated more than he should be IMO. Joining a 73-9 team you were just up 3-1 against and got smacked in a legendary comeback. Then using Westbrook as a scapegoat because he couldnt get over the hump. Then joining a stacked Brooklyn team. Having the opportunity to lead and failing. Then jumping to another stacked Suns team and being middle of the pack.
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
Accurate! The fact this dude & his minions genuinely believes he should be in the GOAT convo is such a joke 😂
@wavegod9394
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4sc It's frustrating the way KD is a master at escaping accountability & criticism. The guy is just not held to the same standards as Lebron & Curry never has been. So it makes me so angry when people attempt to put him on their level.
@samkellogg2805
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4scare people really putting him in the goat convo? The masses? Yes or no did he win a mvp? I’ll wait
@realrocg2509
5 ай бұрын
Say what you wanna say homie a dawg on the court!
@jusbertmeza4424
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4scits a bunch of guys in their mid and late twenties who grew up watching him score in OKC that talk about him like he’s a GOAT. They gonna be doing the same about SGA mark my words 😂
Rob rides KD so hard. He hates on Lebron and Steph but gives KD passes for EVERYTHING
Rob’s tone when it comes to LeBron & KD is night & day. He preaches winning but will always give KD a pass 😂
@arjans7573
5 ай бұрын
KD doesn’t crown himself as the king
@WalkingWallet
5 ай бұрын
@@arjans7573cause he ain't
@mikesito1936
5 ай бұрын
Big facts 🫵🏽Rob is a clown 🤡🤡we know that
@davis2k1234
5 ай бұрын
Funny Lebron can go super team to super team call himself the GOAT KD does the exact same thing as Lebron but Klutch sports/LeMedia bury him
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
@@davis2k1234 KDiva fanboys like you are so delusional its hilarious lol! It's not comparable bozo he joined a 73-9 team that destroyed him in a 3-1 comeback with a first time ever unanimous MVP. 2 of the best shooters ever in history with multiple hall of famers & all stars. And a 8 time all defensive player in Draymond. They could have swapped KD out with Paul George or even JT and did the same thing lol
Who in the hell would argue kd over Kobe..stop it
@9nineM4rc377us
5 ай бұрын
Seeds of agenda
@mandomunoz7367
5 ай бұрын
I would, KD > Kobe, for me
@FreeAgent797
5 ай бұрын
To be completely honest, KD is actually more gifted than Kobe was. But I still have Kobe ahead of him on the all time list.
@9nineM4rc377us
5 ай бұрын
@@FreeAgent797 you know what i agree Honestly You could put any of any top 25 list and all would be more gifted than kobe Kobe willed himself into the conversation On practice alone
@naklovesjesus3204
5 ай бұрын
@@mandomunoz7367 Lol stop bruh 😅
Rob acts like Kobe didn't go to 3 straight finals without Shaq!!!! He beat the most 50 win teams in playoff history
@fcuktheseyoutubers
5 ай бұрын
Because he didn't...
@bhans5202
4 ай бұрын
@@xavierb9061and what does that mean
@blacksasuke1110
4 ай бұрын
But it’s hard for Kobe because that 3 yr championship run with Shaq was him being a sidekick. Shaq was a 33-35points and 10-12 rebounds. Shaq was the best player in the league at that time. That’s why Kobe had issues with him. When people try to dismiss it, it’s unfair and y’all are fanboys and I love Kobe. I hate bringing up Shaq situation but it’s the truth.
@hurt4alleternity
4 ай бұрын
@@blacksasuke1110sidekick is insane, Kobe putting up 30 a game in the playoffs and was the best player for multiple series 01-04
@JimBrave-ri1oc
4 ай бұрын
@@blacksasuke1110 Kobe was putting up 35 every game Shaq was averging 29. Kobe was the creator on the Team and the Go to Guy. Kobe's Prime is actually 99-03. Team went down after he left his prime.
Kobe was a great defender
@9nineM4rc377us
5 ай бұрын
Exactly 2nd most all def teams all time i believe People act like kobe was a 1 way player and forget he was the best defender during that 3peat
@bossplaya6069
5 ай бұрын
@@9nineM4rc377us(9) 1st team all defensive selections tied for most all time with MJ, KG & GP
@hassh3727
5 ай бұрын
On the way to their championship, Kobe was locking down guards that were killing the Lakers.
@vintagemonte
4 ай бұрын
at any point in his career, was kobe capable of guarding prime giannis? an older KD was getting legit stops and buckets on giannis. KD is more versatile defensively even if Kobe is the more aggressive defender. I’d rather have to score on Kobe than KD. Neither is happening, but you really stand no chance against 7 feet.
@hassh3727
4 ай бұрын
@@vintagemonte at any point in his career was KD capable of locking down every point guard in the western conference? Kobe did that at 34 years old. Westbrook, Tony Parker, anyone in his way. Come on dude. Of course Kobe can’t guard 7-footers that’s just stupid.
ROB PARKER!!!! CHRIS HAS SAID THAT TO YOU ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AND YOU POO POOED IT!!!!! KD WOULD HAVE ZERO, LET ME REPEAT, ZERO RINGS IF IT WASNT FOR GSW!!!!!!
@TypicalBlakk
5 ай бұрын
We don’t know that
@TheEndoKenzo
5 ай бұрын
He could’ve won a ring in a okc
@Keepingit1000
5 ай бұрын
0 rings it pretty evident at this point
@jakieresykes3644
5 ай бұрын
@@TheEndoKenzoThan how come he can’t win outside of Golden State he could of he would of done it already
@berniekerns4281
5 ай бұрын
@@TypicalBlakk ...ya..we do.... literally right in front of your face.
Rob hates Steph and LeBron so much that he is willing to sacrifice integrity and honesty for his narrative
@devontacosby8593
5 ай бұрын
They always wants to put kd over them
@z-mane1438
5 ай бұрын
I don’t blame him about lebron
@devontacosby8593
5 ай бұрын
@@z-mane1438 and you wonder why Larry bird said goat James is the greatest and you people should stop crying and whining 🤷♀️ it’s embarrassing
@devontacosby8593
5 ай бұрын
@@z-mane1438 people tune rob out anyways 😂
@notoriousLSGshow
5 ай бұрын
Lol didn't RP say after KC Sbowl win he rather have eli manning over mahomes if he had 2 pick a QB for a must win game ( tbf I caught part of the show & RP might have been trolling , but wouldn't put it past RP lol)
16:00 That caller had to be trolling! 😂
@NoVisionGuy
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Chris definitely had none of that lmao
Signing up to be the alpha and only shrinking from any sort of accountability in Brooklyn was the death knell.
Dude is an elite scorer who has somehow done nothing memorable in the league. Everything he’s done has been forgettable.
@berniekerns4281
3 ай бұрын
That's a little harsh.... but close
Too celebrated hasn’t done much since GS
@DynoGreen313
5 ай бұрын
doesnt have to; 2 championships spanking lebalco is plenty
@AilmanF2P
5 ай бұрын
@@DynoGreen313 Dude is living rent free in your head, let go bro. Life is too short for all of that.
@vintagemonte
4 ай бұрын
he accomplished everything Charles Barkley did before even going to Golden State and everyone praises what Chuck has to say like it’s the gospel😂
He is fairly celebrated, he is just not on Lebron level and even tho he is at Steph level, Steph did more than him so he always will be the 3rd guy of his era
@alijordanx8954
5 ай бұрын
Not on Steph level either
@l.a.6337
5 ай бұрын
@@alijordanx8954 i agree but the distance is way shorter than him and Bron thats why i say he might be
@keithgardner7597
5 ай бұрын
@@alijordanx8954Him and Steph are closer than what people try to say. KD was needed for those 2 championships and he was the best player on their team. Honestly, it wasn’t even close at that time.
@FreeAgent797
5 ай бұрын
Steph is not better than KD.
@user-xl8zy6bp7b
5 ай бұрын
The regular season matters. Check the Wrrs w/l record with Steph out the lineup vs when kd was out the lineup. Check it. There's a big sample size for both. It's so one sided. The Warriors were awesome without Durant when he was hurt. The warriors were very mediocre when Durant played and Curry was out.
Look and listen to these 2 talk about Kobe it’s cringe worthy smh
Rob casually tried to sneak doubt into a 4-1 gentlemen sweep finals😭😭😭
@josiahandre_
5 ай бұрын
With how Rob be talking u would never think he has lebron number 2 on his list
@z-mane1438
5 ай бұрын
@@josiahandre_ I honestly think he’s forced to say that to be in good graces with mainstream media
@mariohoward919
5 ай бұрын
Right. Dude such a hater
@gmailgmail6234
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Cavs had no chance
@MikeBNumba6
5 ай бұрын
@@josiahandre_lol I didn't know he had LeBron that high. Thought he had him barely top ten. Rob seems to hate everyone though. I can't think of a player he actually praised. Maybe Calvin Johnson?
magic did have an aesthetically gorgeous game. his passes were not only offensively potent, but the way he executed them had so much damn juice
The Kobe disrespect never ends with these two smh. Many view Kobe over LBJ. No matter how much the media tries LBJ isn’t on MJs level. There’s MJ and everyone else.
@Dipset415
Ай бұрын
Fasho fasho🤙🏿
Feels like this topic has been topic’d a thousand times on this show.
@notoriousLSGshow
5 ай бұрын
Your right , NBA the only sport I get into the off field/ court drama , so while I agree I guess I'm a hypocrite bcuz I still watch/listen to the sports pundit shows discussing NBA drama/ theoretical arguments
He was so busy trying to be better than Lebron he made poor decisions on where to play. He is nothing but a hired gun. All the talent he’s played with and only two rings and those are cheap. What a waste. Dude needs to learn how to be his own man. You don’t have talent like that and cheap your way to a ring in your prime. Lebron left hating teammates, hating owner and still led the team. KD had great ownership in OKC. I would have loved to see him with a title in OKC. After he left GSW he should have went back to OKC and won there.
@cruztheworld8326
5 ай бұрын
The sad part is he had another chance to go back to Oklahoma City and picked Phoenix instead. Imagine how good the Thunder would be right now if they had KD.
@durellscott9411
5 ай бұрын
Hes so much of a waste u wrote a paper on him 😂 now whos gonna tell ur story??
@universityoffree
5 ай бұрын
What Lebron did was worse than KD because he was the first to do it and left his hometown team. The difference is Lebron went back and redeemed himself.
Larry Bird has entered the chat about that best passing comment Chris
Durant could have gone to any team at that time , but he chose 73-9 team and they deferred to him. Stop acting like he just came in and was the best.
@ojoj5194
5 ай бұрын
they lost
@1stnamebr406
5 ай бұрын
@@ojoj5194 who lost?
@jakieresykes3644
5 ай бұрын
@@ojoj5194He hasn’t won without them so obviously he needed to go there they needed each other
@carlosiverson3857
5 ай бұрын
@@jakieresykes3644i do not believe the warrors dont needed kd. Thi was media bs cuz he stop bron for winning more rings
@devg7728
5 ай бұрын
They needed KD.......Draymond said it on several occasions.......lol
We get it Chris you're not going to kill KD but continue to kill KD. Next topic now please stop beating a dead horse.
@abdeenabdul7803
5 ай бұрын
I swear hes always killing kd lol 😂
If longevity puts lebron in goat territory, then durant is much higher than you give him credit for. He's 8th in scoring in less games than everyone but Mike and wilt. You can talk about where he got his rings, but he got 2. A wins a win. He's definitely a winner. Look at the okc years and take your feelings out the equation. We have to stop the love and hip hop extras when discussing basketball. He has played 17 years. 2016 can't be the only thing people remember about his BASKETBALL career
People tend to forget that Harrison barnes was a no show in the 2016 nba finals, even with the warriors up 3-1..and harrison barnes was a big reason for why they were great in the regular season 73-9 he hit a few game winners....he was a no show in the finals , all the warriors needed was an upgrade at the small forward position that can hit open shots while steph and klay had all the attention....... adding durant was overkill, they would of still won if they added a kris middleton or a paul George or a gordan hayward........ This is why iggy won mvp in 2015, this is also why you see years later wiggins playing such a major role in there 2022 championship.....
@TIGMT0824
5 ай бұрын
Great point
@notoriousLSGshow
5 ай бұрын
Really good point formulated with exceptional critical thinking skills - never thought of it thru that angle
@vintagemonte
5 ай бұрын
the couldn’t beat Kawhi. they were down 3-1 before Klay even got hurt. they were not beating lebron😂
@chasenickles260
5 ай бұрын
@@vintagemonte they were on the verge of going to a game 7 before klay got hurt in game 6...... the warriors was winning the game in the 3rd quarter and game 6 klay was going off until he got Injured and it was a wrap....... durant went down, boogie was a shell of himself and klay went down...... of course it was over........ in 2019 warriors was too top heavy, banked all they chips on not just durant but a washed up boogie cousins and they didnt have any depth......... The warriors entire mantra was strength in numbers that was why they were so hard to beat, it was a team thing....not just a steph and klay thing...... Lebron struggled to beat the warriors in 2016..... took him a Draymond suspension, a starting center injury in andrew bogut, and a harrison barnes disappearing act, just for him to bearly beat the warriors in game 7.......
@ReverendSam1
5 ай бұрын
@@chasenickles260Steph & Iguodala should've been co FMVP, just like lebron & Melo co ROTY 😐!! Steph & lebron were battling for the best player in the league in '16, Steph won the battle(unanimous MVP) but lebron won the war, 🏆& FMVP that season....... IMO 🤔!!
Stop it. Hello are you listening?? Warriors won TWICE without KD. And KD over Kobe is insane. Man, crazy.
The MSOAT never gets old 😂😂😂
They weren’t one game away. They were up 3-1 and blew it , becoming the only team in nba history to note said lead in a finals series.
Some guys drive the bus. Some guys ride the bus; and some of those guys get to park the bus. KD's the latter (ie, the most decorated bus-parker of all-time). Shout-out to Tony Parker (another all-time bus-parker).
He couldn’t win. Chased a ring. Joined an already championship team, left them and hasn’t been back since. He’s on the level of a wilt or Clyde Drexeler (not playing wise but as milestones. It’s not what it could have been
@iTuber012
5 ай бұрын
You mean #3 all time Wilt Chamberlain? Nah
@cruztheworld8326
5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't put Wilt Chamberlain in that category. The 76ers were a horrible team before he arrived and he LED them to a title before going to the Lakers and winning another title with them.
@Ksmoove0824
5 ай бұрын
@@iTuber012no one considers Wilt #3 all time. Maybe as a dominant player but not as an all time great
Iverson was better than Durant
@berniekerns4281
3 ай бұрын
Iverson carried the ball a minute and a half between dribbles... carried the ball continually... meh
Him joining golden state robbed fans of a super competitive western conference and nba.
As a 34 year old I do appreciate when Chris and Rob talk about 70’s and 80’s basketball and the culture that surrounded it. It’s a very cool insight.
I feel like everybody that has any legit understanding in evaluating NBA basketball knows how all-time great Kevin Durant is. I just think a majority of those people (myself included) will never fully respect him for going to a championship winning organization that just beat him a couple months before, when his team had a 3-1 series lead on them. And then for that same organization to win ANOTHER title after he left, while he's tried to form super team after super team to, no championship avail. If KD never went to GS, he MOST LIKELY would go down as the George Gervin of this generation.
@ojoj5194
5 ай бұрын
i respect him. its business.
@universityoffree
5 ай бұрын
@@ojoj5194 Most people watch sports to see competition, not businessmen. You can respect his business acumen and have zero respect for him as a competitor. He was going to make money either way.
@Riles3152
5 ай бұрын
@@ojoj5194I’m sure it had little to do with business considering he could’ve went anywhere he wanted and would have gotten probably even more money. If I’m not mistaken I think he took less to go to Golden State. Dude wanted to win a title but decided to take the easiest road possible to do so. That’s the reason why people don’t respect him as a competitor.
@Humphking
5 ай бұрын
Man all y'all are clowns, KD was a free agent, GS flew a plane to Road Island including Steph to ask him to join them
@berniekerns4281
3 ай бұрын
Wait.... didn't Lefraud go to a championship team? Funny how no one ever brings that up
to put him over D-Wade is crazy. Durant crumbles w pressure on him. And he is NOWHERE near the defender Wade was.
@nazimbelaidi6486
5 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? When did he crumble w pressure on him? A couple of bad series and now he is awful. Stop it
@notoriousLSGshow
5 ай бұрын
Id be happy having either one in a time machine draft building a team , however Dwade w/ his 🤡🌎 TRANSANITY is annoying since he retired , I kno I kno he's defending his child & we are strictly talking NBA ,so I guess point is moot, also the fts he got in that series came off as the league manipulated the series ( I kno it seems like its Ben being done 4ever up until present day )
@davis2k1234
5 ай бұрын
Durant is one the best Finals/Playoffs players of all time go look up his PPG
@universityoffree
5 ай бұрын
Durant is not better than Dwade.
@nazimbelaidi6486
5 ай бұрын
@universityoffree are you a steph fan, lebron hater, or Miami heat fan? Because you don't seem objective to me.
I'm so glad they cut that caller at 16:00. What a terrible take. I've never heard anyone ever say KD is better than Jordan.
@ghostface3652
5 ай бұрын
I have. From a pure skills point and not accomplishments, I see those ppl all the time. I don’t agree tho
@adamyang1187
5 ай бұрын
Lmao i timestamp that weirdo too
Kd has a chance to finish 4th all time in scoring. Insane
Nobody has Durant over Kobe, Kobe is ranked over lebron by the players
@FreeAgent797
5 ай бұрын
Lebron been passed Kobe. The only reason people say he's better than Lebron is because he reminds the world of Michael Jordan. But he wasn't quite Mike in my opinion.
@everybodywannabelikemike_
5 ай бұрын
@@FreeAgent797that’s the dumbest thing I ever heard is Anthony Edwards a top ten player cause he remind u of Jordan? Kobe resume and game speaks for itself he still have more rings than Lebron and lebron played longer and switched teams 3 times. Lebron a loser 4-6 in the finals might not make the playoffs this year
@dior2939
5 ай бұрын
@@everybodywannabelikemike_couldn’t of said it better myself these Bronsexuals value stats over winning.
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
Kobe was most hated while alive. Now since he passed everyone suddenly loves him. You bozos are so fake 😂
@universityoffree
5 ай бұрын
That's why he said that. Broussard is a Cleveland guy. It's all to prop up Lebron's fake top 2 case. Lebron is greater than Durant though. I'll give him that.
Durant is a great player but he’s just not on certain levels 🤷♀️😂 like HE’S NOT ON CERTAIN PLAYERS LEVEL 😂🤦♂️ all he had to do was win a championship anytime outside of gsw and he wouldn’t be in this situation 😂😂 IM GLAD TO BE A GOAT JAMES FAN😂😂✌️
@theblackbolt5514
5 ай бұрын
He's on everyone's level
@devontacosby8593
5 ай бұрын
@@theblackbolt5514 stop it🤷♀️😂 he’s on everyone level til it’s time to criticize him🤷♀️😂 kd and kawhi are on the same level
Me personally I would take prime Dwade over Kevin Durant.
Kd better than Kobe? LMAOOOO
@TIGMT0824
5 ай бұрын
They always discredit Kobe like Kobe didn’t help Shaq win 3 and won 2 without him.
@FreeAgent797
5 ай бұрын
If we talking just raw talent, then yes, he's better than Kobe in that regard. But Kobe is still the greater player.
@notoriousLSGshow
5 ай бұрын
Imo I'd with a mamba( MJ too ) mentality would prob make him be goated - he's been on enough talented teams w/ that mentality to get over the top - but that passion & desire is once ( or 2x) in a lifetime - dont get me wrong KD is extremely focused & motivated ( more than most players today imo ) but those 2 had special killer mindsets
@davis2k1234
5 ай бұрын
@@FreeAgent797Kobe was drafted to the NBA at age 17 his raw talent was off the charts and was youngest a All star starter in history
@universityoffree
5 ай бұрын
@@FreeAgent797 The only talent KD has over Kobe is height. And that's not enough to make him more talented. Oh, and a better uncontested jumper.
The way they say Kobe ain’t even in the discussion yet Lebron is automatically in it makes no sense. People love to bring up Kobe winning with Shaq, but other than Gasol he had no All-Star help when Shaq left, no top 75 teammates. Yet Lebron is in the discussion but has no rings without Top 75 or Hall of Fame talent. Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, Love, Davis, Howard, and the list goes on, and he’s still behind Kobe in championships. I’m not saying Lebron isn’t in the discussion, but stop acting like Kobe doesn’t deserve it too!
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
Kobe was most hated when alive & now everybody loves him since he passed. Make it make sense 😂
@chubbcurry30
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4sc I don’t care who hates him or not, I’m talking about pure basketball skill and accomplishments. During his prime there were many players that praised him for being the best player in the league, including Lebron James, coming from someone who proclaimed themself the GOAT, I believe he meant what he said. The narrative was he was the closest thing we had seen to Jordan. The clips are easily searchable on KZread.
@moe2357
5 ай бұрын
Kobe is not in the GOAT debate. Don't let emotions cloud your judgment.
@Gabe-lj9fo
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4scPpl been putting Kobe top 3-5 even before he passed!!
@chubbcurry30
5 ай бұрын
@@moe2357 and don’t let your undying love for Lebron cloud yours 🤡
Chris has been salty with kd since he exposed him for lying about texting him. Lol
@blaketindle4703
5 ай бұрын
You’re arguing semantics. DMing with someone is basically the same damn thing as texting! They had private “text” conversations with each other on Twitter.
@devontacosby8593
5 ай бұрын
Nobody is salty about kd😂
@carlosiverson3857
5 ай бұрын
Agreeeeeee. Even today he only talk about kd when he losse a game. And nobody talki about kd injury
@tamaralowe8726
5 ай бұрын
I disagree, DM is alot less personal than text @blaketindle4703
@devontacosby8593
5 ай бұрын
@@carlosiverson3857 bro kd hasn’t won a conference finals in 5 years 🤷♀️😂
Pete Maravich was probably the best passer of all time ...even Magic said he wanted to emulate his amazing style. of play as he watched him as a young player ....but yes Magic is rated as one of the greats for a reason
That okc team if they kept harden wouldve won one eventually
He definitely in the top 10-15
@9nineM4rc377us
5 ай бұрын
Top 25 We forget history to much
@nazimbelaidi6486
5 ай бұрын
@@9nineM4rc377usTop 25!!! You seem like you're not watching the games now. You just know history 😂
@9nineM4rc377us
5 ай бұрын
@@nazimbelaidi6486 i was born in the 90s
@nazimbelaidi6486
5 ай бұрын
@9nineM4rc377us then you didn't forget history. You flat out don't know it
@9nineM4rc377us
5 ай бұрын
@@nazimbelaidi6486 so kd is top 15 to you??
To be the greatest one must make the ultimate sacrifice.
The Warriors didn’t NEED KD, he was just a sludge Hammer to an Ant. They lost a game 7 with 2 mins left by one of the most clutch 3s of all time. They pick up KD and sweep them then gentleman’s swept them the following year. It’s absurd to think they couldn’t win in 5/6 games with Demar or Beal or Butler; any other good shooting guard. Then they put a nail on the coffin by winning without KD and beat the team that knocked KD out in the first round of the same season.
@Live-LifE7825
5 ай бұрын
If they did not NEEDED him, then why did Curry and Draymond went and BEGGED him to SAVE their ASSES form Lebron and the Cavaliers then?. The ARGUMENT is not about what the WARRIORS won before are after, that is all SUBJECTIVES laced with ignorance.
@videoorgy
5 ай бұрын
@@Live-LifE7825 Lol. Who said they begged him? Other than Skip Bayless? You talking like that story is confirmed by some credible source. The Warriors did win without KD. That's a fact. And it took a Draymond suspension and historic comeback for them to lose out on winning back to back in the last seconds of game 7.
@Live-LifE7825
5 ай бұрын
Is your source CREDITABLE ?. Fashion Rasta boy calm down and smoke some more hydro so it may clear up your brain cells. Again! Curry, and Raymond went DIRECTLY to KD to join the Warriors. Now since you need the MEDIA to validate my sayings. Why do you not do your research, instead of acting out your fanboy feelings? @@videoorgy
@maumau6961
5 ай бұрын
@@Live-LifE7825so in other words you're source isn't credible
@jakieresykes3644
5 ай бұрын
@@Live-LifE7825They needed each other
See I’m going to tell you why kd isn’t appreciated 😂 because he always want to get praised LIKE OTHER PLAYERS ( goat James, Steph, Kobe, mj) which is FAIR AND RIGHT 🤦♂️ but the problem is nobody and he doesn’t want to take the criticism, people changes the narrative when it comes to him, people will argue you down he’s better then goat James but when it comes to criticism people switch up blame injuries, blame Kyrie, James harden, Steve Nash, PEOPLE REALLY THINK just because he won 2 championships with gsw against goat James Cavs he did something
The vitrol KD gets for joining a 73 - 9 team is hilarious to me. Russell westbrok hasnt won a playoff series in OKC after he left , Steph and the warriors organization flew out to the Hamptons to have a meeting with KD but since the warriors won in 2022 majority of the media look pass the fact when they glazing the warriors. I get it though nowadays context doesnt sell because majority of the fans only care about who wins at the moment 😂😅.
@ReverendSam1
5 ай бұрын
Sports is definitely a "what have u done lately" situation & Kd was a FA, a lot of teams wooed him!! I believe he was never quite looked @as a franchise player once he joined a team that was already built around another player.......IMO 🤔!!
@grvmbinoscott7163
5 ай бұрын
@@ReverendSam1 that's your opinion and that's fine but to say he was never looked as a number 1 option since leaving OKC is wrong because Steph shared that #1 spot with KD and he got paid like one in Brooklyn & Phoenix. KD not winning a championship as the defacto #1 option since GS is the problem and i get THAT... This is why sports debates and TV are dying there no context into the conversation , media pundits have favorites and majority of the fanatics don't even do due diligence to see if these people are saying nonsense.
@ReverendSam1
5 ай бұрын
@@grvmbinoscott7163 Just because you're paid as a #1 doesn't mean u r, he's proven that in his career, IMO 🤔!! Steph sharing his "spotlight"w/Kd hurt his legacy IMO instead of establishing a pecking order between them!!
@grvmbinoscott7163
5 ай бұрын
@@ReverendSam1 2015 when KD was gone for the season you know OKC did not make the playoffs even though Russ was averaging a triple double while KD was gone. When KD left Russ was the #1 option did they have the thunder have playoff success with Sabonis and Olapdio in 2016 what about the following season with Russ x PG x Jeremi Grant & Steven Adams in 2017 and finally Russell last season playing in OKC playing alongside PG & Melo ? NO I can say the same about James Harden prime in Houston and Damian Lillard too but at least those two guys had some playoffs success as being the #1 option on their team , Russell hasn't and throughout NBA there are players that fit but these guys put seats in the arena so they have to get the bag IMO KD is not them brodie. Great rebuttal though! 👏🏿
@ReverendSam1
5 ай бұрын
@@grvmbinoscott7163 What's your point 🤔, I never had a high regard for Kd or Russ!! I thought they were going places after the '12 finals but when James left not so much!! Russ was never a #1 option so I never believed that team was going anywhere built around him...... just saying 😐!!
To me it's crazy to automatically put lebron at 2. He stacked the deck as well to win but he's given a pass. Edit. Broussard just proved my point. Lebron losing with the most talented team is a positive 😂 I'm done with the media man.
He gotta go back to okc to win just like lbj went back to Cleveland
Kd warriors rings are the same as LeBron Miami rings period
@olajawanmagee768
5 ай бұрын
At least lebron rings were tough durants was a cakewalk
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
Said just like a delusional KDiva fanboy
@thetruth3732
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4sc truth hurts I know it will be ok kid
@thetruth3732
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4sc must be another LeBron suck boy smh overrated bum
@thetruth3732
5 ай бұрын
@@olajawanmagee768 there were because he not good same thing stacked quit the cap favorite all 4 years shut up capping
Broussard man how many times are yall going to talk about these dudes legacies.
@TIGMT0824
5 ай бұрын
It’s just another way to boost LeBron
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
@@TIGMT0824 You have racoon logic 😂
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
@@TIGMT0824 You're a racoon 😂
@smithbucky2612
5 ай бұрын
@@TIGMT0824 You're delusional lol
@FreeAgent797
5 ай бұрын
Lebron don't need boosting. His resume speaks for itself.
Like when Lebron reached the top of the scoring list and got his respect, the same should happen for KD. He's gonna be top 3 and the discussion around his GSW years will change. He Won the MVPs.
When you said "Larry Bird" I thought of Charles Barkley holding his arms when Dr. Julius swung at him and barkley said "what did I do!?"
He drove thd buss because the warriors went to him
His reputation is about where it should be.. He joined a super team and hasn't won since leaving. LeBron joined a super team, underachieved but still won afterwards. I look at them both sideways honestly and hold my nose when ranking them. I'm ready for this generation to retire honestly as they just cheated the game and themselves by all this team hopping, and anti competitive super team stuff... I'm ready for a league run by foreigners who compete... Joker, Giannis, Luka, Wemby etc
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
Moves arent comparable at all bozo. Kd joined a 73-9 team that destroyed him in a 3-1 comeback with a first time ever unanimous MVP. 2 of the best shooters ever in history with multiple hall of famers & all stars. And a 8 time all defensive player in Draymond. They could have swapped KD out with Paul George or even JT and did the same thing lol! Luka is so overrated cut it out
@notoriousLSGshow
5 ай бұрын
Forgive my ignorance but who is JT ( all I can think of is Jeff league lol) @@Jazz-on4sc
@universityoffree
5 ай бұрын
My sentiments exactly.
@universityoffree
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4sc You don't think Dwade, Melo, and Bosh could not have gone at 2 out of 4 with Miami?
@jerryren4076
4 ай бұрын
@@universityoffree I doubt it, especially with DWade's declining health.
Dude did you say some think KD is better than Kobe ! Smh well it’s people who really think Kobe is better than LeBron
Its not KD fault that ppl like skip have held LeBron to such a high standard and for the ppl bringing up steph STFU he wasn't criticized for not doing much after KD left actually he was given a pass
@brandoncrockett9266
5 ай бұрын
Since KD left GS, Steph’s won his fourth chip and dominated the same defense that manhandled KD and swept him out of the first round of the playoffs. Why would he be criticized anywhere near as much as KD?
I love Lebron but if your honest, all the former players take Kobe lol they all say this on the podcasts The way the media talks about Kobe is weird like it’s so strange
@FreeAgent797
5 ай бұрын
People that pick Kobe are going by the eye test, because he was very exciting to watch and had alot of flare to his game. But the thing that puts Lebron ahead of him is his efficiency and overall dominance. Analytics show that Lebron is a more effective player than Kobe was.
@RC72387
5 ай бұрын
@FreeAgent797 I hear you bro, however I’m saying the actual players who played both take Kobe… it’s hard for me to not take the players view
@notoriousLSGshow
5 ай бұрын
I feel lucky to have watched Kobe , KD in my lifetime - full disclosure as a middle aged Lakers fans & my buddies loved MJ/bulls so naturally we would talk smack bout each other's teams - it sucked going a decade taking Ls lol
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
It's hilarious Kobe was most hated while alive. Now everyone loves him since he passed and refuse to talk about how inefficient he was as a player
@MikeBNumba6
5 ай бұрын
@@FreeAgent797LeBron doesn't even have efficiency like yall claim. He turns the ball over a lot, he struggles shooting anything outside 5ft from the basket. Teams literally leave LeBron open to shoot jumpers. They didn't go that with Kobe. Yall don't understand what efficiency means. If efficiency is your only criteria then yall need to give Giannis his flowers.
The kobe disrespect is getting out of hand
@kelearl3772
5 ай бұрын
Facts
@chubbcurry30
5 ай бұрын
Bro I literally was scrolling to see if anyone said it. ✊🏽💯
Come on folks quit lying to yourselves. Do you remember when Kevin was coming into the league the hottest topic you had with your cohosts and casts behind doors but couldn't admit it out loud to the viewers. Some have said it out loud that this kid with such a stature regardless of how he dominated his one year at Texas. Wasn't built to survive the big boy game the league provided. You had imagined him entering a place that he will fail in your heads. He made his debut on Halloween night with the announcer saying trick or treat. After all he has provided the game you guys still sound like you must be tricked all his career. It is the same player that the league had no answer for how to defend him. He can pull up from three. He can cross you up and get to his mid. He can drive by and dunk it down. There is no defender that was able to guard him unless they put their hands all over his body to rip the ball away for a turnover. He would just go into the rip through and go to the line and drain the free throw. The league had everyone complaining that he was unfair to guard and ended up banning the rip through. From that point on defenders are allowed to gamble putting their hands all over him for a turnover. Sometimes they get really all over his body when the refs don't call it. It mostly started in that series against Lebron in the finals when the league made sure the refs never made sure that skinny kid, they never chose to represent the league was never going to get a championship before the one the league chose to be the face of it. Ever since than whenever it is head-to-head with the ones, they promote they allow them to get away with fouling KD almost the majority of the games. Stop lying to yourself and you are too old to be taking it to the grave because eventually decades from now folks will look at the tapes and determine the truth for themselves. To promote the underdog story of the under sized light skin kid who the league can see selling to so many viewers, how many illegal moving screens the Warriors have gotten away with just to promote Curry. But to prevent the skinny 7foot alien who doesn't represent the majority of the viewers they are willing to take away rules to allow defense to hold him, grab and foul. The announcers also are part of the setup never mention it unless it is so evident as it is happening like every possession. The media the game is played on ESPN ABC or TNT don't rarely reply to those possessions. To top it off they got the post-game crew who are the voices of the league from guys who once played the game saying maybe that skinny guy should put on some weight to not be pushed around to end any debate the viewers raise up. How sick that if he can shoot over anybody, the only way to stop him is fouling him. Where is the fairness for him. Not every kid wants to look at the past and say yaa I will put on 300lb and stay in the paint and dominate. Some like KD decided maybe the game is better if I can move like a guard and play it. Why does he get taxed cause he adopted to? Evolved the game before everyone else did to handling and shooting from range at that height. Now every 7footer has adopted handling and range because of him. And who do you want to credit that if not KD. He is a career 55 EFG percentage doing it from all 3 levels and the only guy Shaq at 58 who did it from layups and dunks have been overtaken by this skinny one in less games. Sometimes no matter how loyal you can be to the past you have to give credit. Stop acting like Boston wasn't fouling him all series. Why are you lying to yourselves to prove point almost everyone knows it. Just cause Charles and Shaq who are on the side of the League promoting the game say he needs to eat some burgers, so they don't push him around doesn't change no minds. It has been known the game was rigged on certain matchups especially on head to heads to promote certain stars or teams for the benefit of league revenue. As well as to sale future upcoming stars. Do you really think anyone buys into that bus rider take when we watched and have tapes to go pull up to see who dominated. Just cause the league told Ty Luo to say he focused on Curry doesn't mean we buy it. Like whom even cares when that coach was 8-1 in that scenario. To promote Curry and Lebron the league had stepped on Durant all his career. Once the talking heads for the league lose out to the social media eventually everything you argue for and against will be history. We have tapes we can pull up that says nobody can guard Durant unless they are fouling him. You can also pull up the tapes in a decade when being light skinned is not big deal anymore and say look at all those moving screens to just sale Curry.
Durant deserves to be in the middle to upper teens of all time greats. Jerry West, KG, Karl Malone, somewhere in there
Neither Kd or lebron is worthy of praise
@WilbertCarter
Ай бұрын
What a ludicrous remark!😱😱
@2rawww4tvkd
Ай бұрын
@@WilbertCarter that’s facts neither was able to win shii both had to tuck tale & go else where to win a chip
No way no how he’s better than wade
@ReverendSam1
5 ай бұрын
DWade was able to b built around & gave the "blueprint" on how to incorporate another highly talented player w/o rocking the boat.......he was the consummate professional!!
@DynoGreen313
5 ай бұрын
he's better than d wade not better than kobe though
@lorddj9910
5 ай бұрын
@@DynoGreen313he’s not better than Wade either
I feel like Chris & Shannon sharpe don’t like KD personally
If you win 2 mvp...championship....average 35....stop the hate...
Kobe over lbj 💯
@FreeAgent797
5 ай бұрын
Nah. You buggin
@dior2939
5 ай бұрын
@@FreeAgent797nah he’s not Kobe better and won more which is the point of playing not to stat pad and lose like Lebron.
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
Kobe was most hated while alive. Now that he passed away people suddenly love him and want to put a MJ carbon copy over the goat 😂😂
@dior2939
5 ай бұрын
@@Jazz-on4sc most hated by dweebs and non hoppers 🤡
Kobe didn't have a style of basketball all he did was take all MJ moves and added a three point shoot.
@universityoffree
5 ай бұрын
All he did was take MJ's moves... why doesn't somebody else do that?
I believe he gets the correct amount of appreciation. As far as his move to GS, it is what it is. If he didn’t go to GS, Kevin probably wouldn’t have a titles, and GS may not have become a dynasty. They kind of needed each other. If people think he is under appreciated, then he should be getting as much criticism as LeBron has gotten. He always says he feels he’s as good as LeBron, or should be in the same convo. But doesn’t get the same criticism. Never has. Have to take the good with the bad.
Basketball is a TEAM game. It doesn’t matter how talented you are. Can you rise up and take your entire team with you? That’s a champion
Lebron is not in the goat conversation he did not elevate or change the game of basketball he should not compare Jordan never .
@Jazz-on4sc
5 ай бұрын
This is a KD video you bozo stop glazing Jordan weirdo
@user-mn9sr7tx9j
5 ай бұрын
Go back to sleep old man 😂
@smithbucky2612
5 ай бұрын
90s are over old man 😂
@TakablePond
5 ай бұрын
check lebron resume 😂
@user-wl7mk3ui3q
5 ай бұрын
@TakablePond I did that's why I can say that objectively, he's no where half the player Jordan what loser the media build him up .4-6,3finals loses ,he's not even top ten kobe5-2finals record ,Tim Duncan 5-1 finals record.
Lol, the way rob tries to discredit lebron, who really believes he has lebron as number 2 on his all time list? I sure don't. I think he's just says that as cover for when he rips lebron, then when he's called out he says" I have him number 2 on my list"!
Chris B who in the hell saying Durant is better than Kobe.
@gmailgmail6234
5 ай бұрын
Some ppl think he goat
Both KD and LeBron made weak moves making these superteams in their prime. People don't consider the LeBron move weak because they go 73-9 the year before. But we know if he had never made that move KD wouldn't have went to GSW. They instantly changed the balance of the league and went to the finals every year they were there. Then LeBron went back to Cleveland and formed another superteam. They're both great and are first ballot Hall of Famers but I won't give LeBron a pass and then call the KD move weak.
16:01- go here if you want to hear a Leblanco simp 😂
I don't care about legacy. Tracy McGrady is my favorite player of all time because of how graceful he was on the court. Some of that is childhood nostalgia, I accept that. KD took gracefulness on the basketball court to a different level though. No one has or had a more beautiful game than KD. Idk why everyone is so obsessed with legacy. His game speaks for itself.
As a Sixer fan growing up I hated Bird and Magic. I began to appreciated them both over time, Magic first then Bird. Magic as one of the greatest leaders . Bird has had a lot of stuff talked about him but to win MVP of the league 3 straight years is phenomenal. I don’t care what era.
An argument can be made that kawhi is ahead of Durant. Both have 2 rings, but Kawhi's hold more weight.
@TheLionaaa
5 ай бұрын
True
I’ve never heard anyone EVER say Durant over Kobe
The Kevin Durant hate is ridiculous. He is the reason the Warriors became a dynasty. Without Durant, they probably only have 1 ring and the Warriors only won in 2015 because Kyrie and Kevin Love were injured in the finals. He is easily a top 5 player all time
Sooooo...Bron as a passer ain't close Magic?? 🧐
KD is incredible...but I've come to realize that he's simply the best role player ever.
I still feel the same about Lebron's Miami rings as I did all the way back then when he won them. That was a weak move & his Miami rings are only a level about Durant's Warrior rings. It's partially why I don't think Lebron is in the top 3 all time. A lot of revisionist history going on with Lebron's career these days where a lot of fans don't use context anymore towards some of his achievements.
If guys wanna clown kd, clown lebron & steph as well
@TakablePond
5 ай бұрын
kd not goat james and curry
Chris is right on point about Dr. J And Dr. J is ahead of Durant.
The one thing KD is lacking is intangibles. He has everything else. But his presence on a team doesn’t impact it the way the legends above him do. Like he said all he wants to do is hoop, but being the leader of a team is more than just being able to score the ball.
@DynoGreen313
5 ай бұрын
his presence has massive impact made the warriors unbeatable what made you say this?
@andiakpan8502
5 ай бұрын
@@DynoGreen313 well when u have the first and second best shooters ever on your team. Youre guaranteed single coverage most of the time. Also draymond was the leader of that team, he is the one that galvanizes the troops so to speak when things aren’t looking good. All kD has to do is show up and hoop. It’s the same reason why golden state lost when dray got suspended. He is the emotional leader. Which comes with its own challenges. KD has the talent of a number 1 option but because of his reluctance to also be the emotional leader of the teams he’s on he doesn’t impact them the same way other legends do. Fkr example, in okc if KD put his foot down and told russ that he has to have to ball late in games he prolly could’ve won there. Example 2, in Brooklyn goran dragic stated that there was no structure everyone did their own thing. As the best player of a team your role is more than just filling up the stat sheet you also have to be a motivator and bring structure to a team. That’s why he’s failed everywhere else besides GSW and is currently playing robin to dbooks Batman in phoenix
Durant never get a lack of credit. he's just get the credit he deserved, which means a top 30 all time, nothing more, nothing less.
Bringing up off the court things like Shaq having a rap album has nothing to do with how good a player is. 😂
People hate Durant for joining the warriors but I honestly don’t blame him for leaving. They fired because he got hurt, they traded harden for Kevin Martin which was a mistake, and they wouldn’t make a move to replace harden. I mean what do you expect him to do?
The media are really going to try to ruin Durant's legacy by saying the GS rings don't count. They won't let this go, will they? I don't even like Durrant that much but that is totally unfair.
I disagree about that wide margin of best passer with magic being number one Larry Bird, Steve Nash and Nikola Jokić is easily on the same level of passing as Magic
@bilalamarumosi8282
5 ай бұрын
Let's not forget pistol
@monijam1
5 ай бұрын
Magic is the best passer every but you're right others are close like Lebron who I think is second best ever at passing
@user-px9hp2hb4i
5 ай бұрын
@@bilalamarumosi8282 yep he was innovative even more so than Magic
Steph will and has always been the better player then KD
Kobe at his Athletic Prime which was from 99-03 was a top 5 Player then. (Not counting 7 footers like Kareem, Robinson, Hakeem)
KD is a generation talent, that's it.
Durant and LeBron will never be celebrated as much as they could’ve been. LeBron jumped teams in search for rings, so did Durant, the flop era began and LeBron helped define it. Durant was a troll and went from likeable guy to NBA villain. LeBron shed tears and threw tantrums left and right. The guys are/were super talents… Their actions trumped their legacy. The media/NBA still tries to force a liking around LeBron… but that’s finally starting to fade. Two talents that I truly believe the NBA ruined while trying to force them to be the new faces. Oh well! They’re millionaires! They don’t care! Lol
KD is definitely a great defender and rebounder and the best scorer ever💯🥱