Is HooXi the problem? / ZywOo vs donk vs m0NESY: Who's on top? - Counter-Points S2E19
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Thorin and Maniac discuss recent showings from Vitality, Team Spirit, and G2, ZywOo falling in yet another big final, donk getting cooked at IEM Dallas, Stewie2k's performance as a stand-in, potential paths forward for G2, and more.
Counter-Points is a Counter-Strike talk show, hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields and Mathieu "Maniac" Quiquerez.
This video was recorded on the 10th of June, 2024.
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0:00:00 - Maniac and ZywOo skit
0:02:39 - ZywOo
0:22:43 - donk and Spirit
0:33:25 - G2
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Let’s goooooo. We got thumbnails now
I like how Maniac gets excited when players play good or bad. The desk should analyze but also remember this is for entertainment. Arguing, talking about players choking, and disagreeing with others brings more entertainment and social media comments. Great show! I personally enjoy pretty much all the casters and talent in tier 1. Every event seems to be awesome now.
You guys done did the woo so dirty on that thumbnail. He has actually been laying off the croissants as of late pay some respect to the goat xd.
@Flare97
Ай бұрын
Yeah! He switched to pains au chocolat!
@singular9
Ай бұрын
Its not a long walk from the croissant cafe to the baguette bakery.
@heathaen
Ай бұрын
Idk he looks fine?
@Flare97
Ай бұрын
@@heathaen he does, I'm joking :D
@AstroSully
Ай бұрын
@@Flare97 Pain Au Chocolat clears though
NiKo won 5 events as IGL in Faze. Now he has 6 as IGL
@danielpr123
6 күн бұрын
And still gets meme'd on HLTV, when he wants to try to IGL ..
damn thorin baked af
@csCherry
Ай бұрын
same
@lykosss_333
27 күн бұрын
@@csCherry same
@stibohoehne
13 күн бұрын
bro how can you tell
1:02:50 I really thought Maniac was having a freudian slip for a second there. ”I had the fantasy of fucking Zywoo” 😂
No matter how you rank them the top 3 is clearly m0nesy, donk and ZywOo then everybody else. They're a cut above the rest.
@emanueljohansson4895
Ай бұрын
Forgott iem okland 1979 b.c?
@peterenis3507
Ай бұрын
@@emanueljohansson4895rez 1
finally a podcast where i can hear duncan's every breath! aside from that, great episode!
@jianchen7450
Ай бұрын
lmao
Would love to see Hooxi stay as an assistant coach or something. Do the same role he did for Dallas. Help Niko prep make adjustments and things like that so Niko can focus on mid round calling and getting frags.
I like the timestamps/chapters in the video!
1:02:50 You had me at m0NESY
This episode saved my day! THANKS🤙
The skits are seriously amazing and i hope we keep getting them in cs2 for years to come. Props to the players for playing into it, makes for great content.
Would love to be able to ask questions for this show with Discord subscription
HooXi should hope the dude takes this opportunity to study what worked better for them this series and use it as a tool to improve at the margins. This isn't strictly a negative unless he makes it one.
maniac is class
The NiKo IGL'ing angle could potentially improve the chances of the team, although we hope for the best that he doesn't F# up this time as we all know the history. electronic use to IGL with NA'VI back in Summer 2022 and they became the best team in the world at some point.
"Thank you Hooxi" post coming up
thanks ❤
Maniac has definitely become my favorite analyst.
@lykosss_333
27 күн бұрын
maniac is always amazing, we love maniac
donk and m0nesy together would be like Luka and Jokic joining forces, the nba at all costs cannot let it happen
@peterenis3507
Ай бұрын
Luka and wemby would be even crazier
55:37 I think electronic is/was just as skilled
s1mple, donk, and monesy, all one one team....
The ending made me a little sad that we might not ever see prime donk and m0nesy on the same team. Who knows, maybe Spirit go crazy and write G2 a blank check.
@vincentrumbiolo877
Ай бұрын
Can’t see a world where if g2 didn’t let monesy and niko go from the Saudi money, I doubt spirit is gonna have a better deal than what falcons would’ve gave
What’s funny is that maniac isn’t even French, he has no real reason to be biased other than having played with apex. I don’t see people talk about his apex bias.
The Hooxi vs NiKo igl debate reminds me daps vs Stan a lot. I feel like NiKo is a really good caller from existing structure and stats but I dont trust him making the structure and stats. He will unevitable run out of steam in couple months and then the team will go down again and it will look ugly like in his IGL days in FaZe.
Thorin should stop coffee. He was close to a heart attack.
s/o freeze pipe on this ep
Finally
hot counter points made
Honestly this team can stay what it is and let hooxi become even more aggressive. Honestly it’s a weird situation since I don’t like betting on niko becoming igl just like how electronic became the igl.
I think Zywoo mental state is impacted by apex tilt in a very bad way. As soon as apex is malding I start to see zywoo facepalming.
Switzerland taking a hard stance on something for the first time ever Clap monesy still better though 😂
I agree with the getting final and losing point. Lebron losing in finals is better than losing before.
I love your content thorin but please try not to breathe directly on your mic, you are better than Kendrick Perkins I know you are!!
if twistzz is on g2 with niko then ez major win for niko
I agree with maniac. Everyone should be called out. YNK has had to literally be red in the face for NiKo for years now lol.
@AstroSully
Ай бұрын
YNK makes Kassad looks good
Am I crazy to think that monesy, Niko to Faze. -rain, -broky. I think obviously Niko being so dynamic of a player he can make the swap to rains roles. But he needs to admit to himself he’s not the player he once was and accept he won’t be receiving as much of the teams resources as he’s used to. To me this is the equivalent to the old Faze super team.
@floofy1
Ай бұрын
Meds
Wtf are you talking about. G2 did not won against navi for like 2 years
i dunno why are they so against stewie2k I know he had some controversies and had some attitude issues but cmon Boston major Then Liquid domination with grand slam And now just thrown in out of the blue into G2 with NO practice won an entire event Like its not a fluke he keeps doing it, and i think he matured and learned from he's mistakes
@sentryion3106
Ай бұрын
He might not have grand stats but he has the trophies. Hell he might be the player with the worst stat with the most trophies with multiple different teams. He really is the most intangible of cs
D0nkesy
Donk, monesy, magixx, norbert, and chopper. Ruski mir blyat!
Yekindar to G2 could be very interesting if they wanted to emulate the Dallas runs style but with a possible bigger upside then keeping HooXi with Niko IGLing long term.
Maniac and Thorin are such a knowledgable and well spoken duo. It's a prime example of a quality content (lowkey so much better when there is no Mauisnake around)
@joseblua6566
Ай бұрын
So true, maui would somehow find a way to blame skullz and zews for zywoo not performing on finals tbf
Hear me out. Minus Hooxi, plus Yekindar, keep Nexa as an anchor(still one of the better supports and anchors out there) Make NiKo IGL and keep Hubter and m0NESY in their own roles. I promise you Yekindar would reborn as the best entry in the world that he used to be, Nexa and Hunter would have less preassure, both very capable riflers, Hunter easily top20 player past 5 years, and m0NESY just the no1 HLTV contender for years to come. NiKo's lose calling style allowin Yekindar to do whatever, and Hunter and m0NESY to do their thing elswhere, Nexa is numbers wise one of the very best support players(even tho he had an awfull event, his numbers since rejoining G2 are pretty high concidering he is one of the least space consuming players in modern CS) so yeah this is easily a Major winning lineup... Plus NiKo is happy cause he plays with his brother, and his friend.
@Gomezio
Ай бұрын
You've completely lost me 7 worlds in. G2 are too close to the top to be taking a massive risk like that. The only way you take that kind of risk in their position is if it's for like a prodigious kid, like 17 or 18
-HooXi +YEKINDAR Or the dream: -HooXi, -Nexa +NAF, Twistzz Even though Id prefer the reverse: -cadiaN, -skullz +NiKo, +m0NESY
@ins4n1tycs3
Ай бұрын
NiKo and Twistzz in the same team 💥💥💥
23:50 Are you stoned or just dumb? If donk's floor is 0.89 , then he's outrageously terrible for the best player in the world . A really good floor would be Zywoo in the finals with 1.15 or Monesy against Mouz with 1.13 , that's a good floor for the best players . Donk's performance against Vitality has to be once in a year kind of performance because he was the worst player in the server (mezii and apex where in the same server) .
@sentryion3106
Ай бұрын
Tbh I give more slack to donk stat than zywoo and monesy. Unlike them he is an entry fraggers and for an entry fragger to get this stat it’s absolutely insane.
3:53 Catering to the crowd is your job...
@chillypeper777
Ай бұрын
no?:D
@AstroSully
Ай бұрын
hell no
@worldstarnotsosuper846
Ай бұрын
Grifter ?
donk is washed and good example of his decay is how in Copenhagen on Nuke he completely shat on iM chest but in Dallas he lost in duels against iM
@HahsJeje
Ай бұрын
What are you even trying to say?
@vangod1
Ай бұрын
……
@piggers3263
Ай бұрын
Donks "washed" according to his haters is 1.16 rating at Dallas, numbers some of the best players in the world average.
@user-cc3ef7qh1x
Ай бұрын
It's not hltv. You can act normal
@paradoxofgodexisting
Ай бұрын
mldwlt spotted
Niko IGL Monesy AWP Hunter anchor/lurk - Nexa - Hooxi + Twistzz + NAF
@AndrewJanusson
Ай бұрын
hunter NAF roles overlap.
@cmm7405
Ай бұрын
@@AndrewJanusson also twistzz won't fill any spot on g2 cuz he want to be the star