Is HooXi the problem? / ZywOo vs donk vs m0NESY: Who's on top? - Counter-Points S2E19

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Thorin and Maniac discuss recent showings from Vitality, Team Spirit, and G2, ZywOo falling in yet another big final, donk getting cooked at IEM Dallas, Stewie2k's performance as a stand-in, potential paths forward for G2, and more.
Counter-Points is a Counter-Strike talk show, hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields and Mathieu "Maniac" Quiquerez.
This video was recorded on the 10th of June, 2024.
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0:00:00 - Maniac and ZywOo skit
0:02:39 - ZywOo
0:22:43 - donk and Spirit
0:33:25 - G2
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Пікірлер: 85

  • @pinkocean310
    @pinkocean310Ай бұрын

    Let’s goooooo. We got thumbnails now

  • @weberswonderland
    @weberswonderlandАй бұрын

    I like how Maniac gets excited when players play good or bad. The desk should analyze but also remember this is for entertainment. Arguing, talking about players choking, and disagreeing with others brings more entertainment and social media comments. Great show! I personally enjoy pretty much all the casters and talent in tier 1. Every event seems to be awesome now.

  • @fVNzO
    @fVNzOАй бұрын

    You guys done did the woo so dirty on that thumbnail. He has actually been laying off the croissants as of late pay some respect to the goat xd.

  • @Flare97

    @Flare97

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah! He switched to pains au chocolat!

  • @singular9

    @singular9

    Ай бұрын

    Its not a long walk from the croissant cafe to the baguette bakery.

  • @heathaen

    @heathaen

    Ай бұрын

    Idk he looks fine?

  • @Flare97

    @Flare97

    Ай бұрын

    @@heathaen he does, I'm joking :D

  • @AstroSully

    @AstroSully

    Ай бұрын

    @@Flare97 Pain Au Chocolat clears though

  • @biggusballuz5405
    @biggusballuz5405Ай бұрын

    NiKo won 5 events as IGL in Faze. Now he has 6 as IGL

  • @danielpr123

    @danielpr123

    6 күн бұрын

    And still gets meme'd on HLTV, when he wants to try to IGL ..

  • @vanhanliiton7232
    @vanhanliiton7232Ай бұрын

    damn thorin baked af

  • @csCherry

    @csCherry

    Ай бұрын

    same

  • @lykosss_333

    @lykosss_333

    27 күн бұрын

    @@csCherry same

  • @stibohoehne

    @stibohoehne

    13 күн бұрын

    bro how can you tell

  • @XwSScout
    @XwSScoutАй бұрын

    1:02:50 I really thought Maniac was having a freudian slip for a second there. ”I had the fantasy of fucking Zywoo” 😂

  • @AstroSully
    @AstroSullyАй бұрын

    No matter how you rank them the top 3 is clearly m0nesy, donk and ZywOo then everybody else. They're a cut above the rest.

  • @emanueljohansson4895

    @emanueljohansson4895

    Ай бұрын

    Forgott iem okland 1979 b.c?

  • @peterenis3507

    @peterenis3507

    Ай бұрын

    @@emanueljohansson4895rez 1

  • @nonAehT
    @nonAehTАй бұрын

    finally a podcast where i can hear duncan's every breath! aside from that, great episode!

  • @jianchen7450

    @jianchen7450

    Ай бұрын

    lmao

  • @epav2396
    @epav2396Ай бұрын

    Would love to see Hooxi stay as an assistant coach or something. Do the same role he did for Dallas. Help Niko prep make adjustments and things like that so Niko can focus on mid round calling and getting frags.

  • @IronTony1337
    @IronTony1337Ай бұрын

    I like the timestamps/chapters in the video!

  • @nikhilrajendram2612
    @nikhilrajendram2612Ай бұрын

    1:02:50 You had me at m0NESY

  • @GrenadeBoB
    @GrenadeBoBАй бұрын

    This episode saved my day! THANKS🤙

  • @TYLERLOVESBMX1
    @TYLERLOVESBMX1Ай бұрын

    The skits are seriously amazing and i hope we keep getting them in cs2 for years to come. Props to the players for playing into it, makes for great content.

  • @everything-has-a-handle-now
    @everything-has-a-handle-nowАй бұрын

    Would love to be able to ask questions for this show with Discord subscription

  • @kaliver517
    @kaliver517Ай бұрын

    HooXi should hope the dude takes this opportunity to study what worked better for them this series and use it as a tool to improve at the margins. This isn't strictly a negative unless he makes it one.

  • @AstroSully
    @AstroSullyАй бұрын

    maniac is class

  • @ins4n1tycs3
    @ins4n1tycs3Ай бұрын

    The NiKo IGL'ing angle could potentially improve the chances of the team, although we hope for the best that he doesn't F# up this time as we all know the history. electronic use to IGL with NA'VI back in Summer 2022 and they became the best team in the world at some point.

  • @paradoxofgodexisting
    @paradoxofgodexistingАй бұрын

    "Thank you Hooxi" post coming up

  • @Wally4you
    @Wally4youАй бұрын

    thanks ❤

  • @ezpk-
    @ezpk-Ай бұрын

    Maniac has definitely become my favorite analyst.

  • @lykosss_333

    @lykosss_333

    27 күн бұрын

    maniac is always amazing, we love maniac

  • @j_kaRN
    @j_kaRNАй бұрын

    donk and m0nesy together would be like Luka and Jokic joining forces, the nba at all costs cannot let it happen

  • @peterenis3507

    @peterenis3507

    Ай бұрын

    Luka and wemby would be even crazier

  • @ins4n1tycs3
    @ins4n1tycs3Ай бұрын

    55:37 I think electronic is/was just as skilled

  • @singular9
    @singular9Ай бұрын

    s1mple, donk, and monesy, all one one team....

  • @sh0gun___
    @sh0gun___Ай бұрын

    The ending made me a little sad that we might not ever see prime donk and m0nesy on the same team. Who knows, maybe Spirit go crazy and write G2 a blank check.

  • @vincentrumbiolo877

    @vincentrumbiolo877

    Ай бұрын

    Can’t see a world where if g2 didn’t let monesy and niko go from the Saudi money, I doubt spirit is gonna have a better deal than what falcons would’ve gave

  • @ArthurStephenHicks
    @ArthurStephenHicksАй бұрын

    What’s funny is that maniac isn’t even French, he has no real reason to be biased other than having played with apex. I don’t see people talk about his apex bias.

  • @johny153
    @johny153Ай бұрын

    The Hooxi vs NiKo igl debate reminds me daps vs Stan a lot. I feel like NiKo is a really good caller from existing structure and stats but I dont trust him making the structure and stats. He will unevitable run out of steam in couple months and then the team will go down again and it will look ugly like in his IGL days in FaZe.

  • @vdre6741
    @vdre674128 күн бұрын

    Thorin should stop coffee. He was close to a heart attack.

  • @Roobedoo99
    @Roobedoo99Ай бұрын

    s/o freeze pipe on this ep

  • @Jerome-iwnl
    @Jerome-iwnlАй бұрын

    Finally

  • @schmeed0000
    @schmeed0000Ай бұрын

    hot counter points made

  • @sentryion3106
    @sentryion3106Ай бұрын

    Honestly this team can stay what it is and let hooxi become even more aggressive. Honestly it’s a weird situation since I don’t like betting on niko becoming igl just like how electronic became the igl.

  • @pavelwolfovichpetliura7169
    @pavelwolfovichpetliura7169Ай бұрын

    I think Zywoo mental state is impacted by apex tilt in a very bad way. As soon as apex is malding I start to see zywoo facepalming.

  • @cm386464
    @cm386464Ай бұрын

    Switzerland taking a hard stance on something for the first time ever Clap monesy still better though 😂

  • @evanroy4143
    @evanroy414329 күн бұрын

    I agree with the getting final and losing point. Lebron losing in finals is better than losing before.

  • @jaredlacour5854
    @jaredlacour5854Ай бұрын

    I love your content thorin but please try not to breathe directly on your mic, you are better than Kendrick Perkins I know you are!!

  • @c0stie34
    @c0stie34Ай бұрын

    if twistzz is on g2 with niko then ez major win for niko

  • @singular9
    @singular9Ай бұрын

    I agree with maniac. Everyone should be called out. YNK has had to literally be red in the face for NiKo for years now lol.

  • @AstroSully

    @AstroSully

    Ай бұрын

    YNK makes Kassad looks good

  • @cadetonner5648
    @cadetonner5648Ай бұрын

    Am I crazy to think that monesy, Niko to Faze. -rain, -broky. I think obviously Niko being so dynamic of a player he can make the swap to rains roles. But he needs to admit to himself he’s not the player he once was and accept he won’t be receiving as much of the teams resources as he’s used to. To me this is the equivalent to the old Faze super team.

  • @floofy1

    @floofy1

    Ай бұрын

    Meds

  • @ernyzaz
    @ernyzazАй бұрын

    Wtf are you talking about. G2 did not won against navi for like 2 years

  • @rytis6038
    @rytis6038Ай бұрын

    i dunno why are they so against stewie2k I know he had some controversies and had some attitude issues but cmon Boston major Then Liquid domination with grand slam And now just thrown in out of the blue into G2 with NO practice won an entire event Like its not a fluke he keeps doing it, and i think he matured and learned from he's mistakes

  • @sentryion3106

    @sentryion3106

    Ай бұрын

    He might not have grand stats but he has the trophies. Hell he might be the player with the worst stat with the most trophies with multiple different teams. He really is the most intangible of cs

  • @FredFlexDK
    @FredFlexDKАй бұрын

    D0nkesy

  • @chef-b3337
    @chef-b3337Ай бұрын

    Donk, monesy, magixx, norbert, and chopper. Ruski mir blyat!

  • @D0P3ST
    @D0P3STАй бұрын

    Yekindar to G2 could be very interesting if they wanted to emulate the Dallas runs style but with a possible bigger upside then keeping HooXi with Niko IGLing long term.

  • @kynokyno2563
    @kynokyno2563Ай бұрын

    Maniac and Thorin are such a knowledgable and well spoken duo. It's a prime example of a quality content (lowkey so much better when there is no Mauisnake around)

  • @joseblua6566

    @joseblua6566

    Ай бұрын

    So true, maui would somehow find a way to blame skullz and zews for zywoo not performing on finals tbf

  • @fedjavuckovic5920
    @fedjavuckovic5920Ай бұрын

    Hear me out. Minus Hooxi, plus Yekindar, keep Nexa as an anchor(still one of the better supports and anchors out there) Make NiKo IGL and keep Hubter and m0NESY in their own roles. I promise you Yekindar would reborn as the best entry in the world that he used to be, Nexa and Hunter would have less preassure, both very capable riflers, Hunter easily top20 player past 5 years, and m0NESY just the no1 HLTV contender for years to come. NiKo's lose calling style allowin Yekindar to do whatever, and Hunter and m0NESY to do their thing elswhere, Nexa is numbers wise one of the very best support players(even tho he had an awfull event, his numbers since rejoining G2 are pretty high concidering he is one of the least space consuming players in modern CS) so yeah this is easily a Major winning lineup... Plus NiKo is happy cause he plays with his brother, and his friend.

  • @Gomezio

    @Gomezio

    Ай бұрын

    You've completely lost me 7 worlds in. G2 are too close to the top to be taking a massive risk like that. The only way you take that kind of risk in their position is if it's for like a prodigious kid, like 17 or 18

  • @RobCooper-Bachatador
    @RobCooper-BachatadorАй бұрын

    -HooXi +YEKINDAR Or the dream: -HooXi, -Nexa +NAF, Twistzz Even though Id prefer the reverse: -cadiaN, -skullz +NiKo, +m0NESY

  • @ins4n1tycs3

    @ins4n1tycs3

    Ай бұрын

    NiKo and Twistzz in the same team 💥💥💥

  • @stayhome4626
    @stayhome4626Ай бұрын

    23:50 Are you stoned or just dumb? If donk's floor is 0.89 , then he's outrageously terrible for the best player in the world . A really good floor would be Zywoo in the finals with 1.15 or Monesy against Mouz with 1.13 , that's a good floor for the best players . Donk's performance against Vitality has to be once in a year kind of performance because he was the worst player in the server (mezii and apex where in the same server) .

  • @sentryion3106

    @sentryion3106

    Ай бұрын

    Tbh I give more slack to donk stat than zywoo and monesy. Unlike them he is an entry fraggers and for an entry fragger to get this stat it’s absolutely insane.

  • @AndrewJanusson
    @AndrewJanussonАй бұрын

    3:53 Catering to the crowd is your job...

  • @chillypeper777

    @chillypeper777

    Ай бұрын

    no?:D

  • @AstroSully

    @AstroSully

    Ай бұрын

    hell no

  • @worldstarnotsosuper846

    @worldstarnotsosuper846

    Ай бұрын

    Grifter ?

  • @zizzyballuba4373
    @zizzyballuba4373Ай бұрын

    donk is washed and good example of his decay is how in Copenhagen on Nuke he completely shat on iM chest but in Dallas he lost in duels against iM

  • @HahsJeje

    @HahsJeje

    Ай бұрын

    What are you even trying to say?

  • @vangod1

    @vangod1

    Ай бұрын

    ……

  • @piggers3263

    @piggers3263

    Ай бұрын

    Donks "washed" according to his haters is 1.16 rating at Dallas, numbers some of the best players in the world average.

  • @user-cc3ef7qh1x

    @user-cc3ef7qh1x

    Ай бұрын

    It's not hltv. You can act normal

  • @paradoxofgodexisting

    @paradoxofgodexisting

    Ай бұрын

    mldwlt spotted

  • @singular9
    @singular9Ай бұрын

    Niko IGL Monesy AWP Hunter anchor/lurk - Nexa - Hooxi + Twistzz + NAF

  • @AndrewJanusson

    @AndrewJanusson

    Ай бұрын

    hunter NAF roles overlap.

  • @cmm7405

    @cmm7405

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@AndrewJanusson also twistzz won't fill any spot on g2 cuz he want to be the star

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