I thought about adding my full thoughts in the video but was afraid it would become too long and didn’t want to bore you guys out so I’ll do it as a comment. My theory is that sometimes the quality control when it comes to middle eastern frags (and even designer ones sometimes) is not the best. Especially when those fragrance houses realize that a frag is actually popular they probably want to meet the demand and don’t give enough time for the oils to fully macerate and so you may end up with a product that needs to complete that process on your shelves basically:)

@theoyansen8267

Жыл бұрын

That's my theory too about budget fragrances.

@kingyeti6336

Жыл бұрын

Spot on

@wilfreb

Жыл бұрын

When I was looking to buy Detour Noir, there was very limited availability online, and after a few months, the market was flooded with bottles, explaining what you men.

@trinivagrant

Жыл бұрын

I noticed this with Rare Carbon, had this really off putting note when I first got it. I put it away for a few months and came back to it and was like damn this is good. I guess not a huge deal because most people purchasing 'clones' have a large collection where they can wait it out. And if it helps keep the price reasonable then it's worth the trade off

My mom caught me macerating and she told not to Xerjoff or I would go blind

@thenicesmellinggentleman

10 ай бұрын

Lol, that’s a good one 😂

@declanharty7525

10 ай бұрын

😂

@jabenoja211

9 ай бұрын

Cleaver

@darincampbell171

8 ай бұрын

Funny! I get it. Clever! Peace.

@dutchv

8 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

As you noted, Maceration happens before the product even goes to market. However, after that period, the bottling, at least, it's "Maturation." People use these terms interchangeably, but they're two separate processes, and the results one is most likely to experience are from maturation. If, however, as you've theorized, a company is anxious to get the product out because of demand, then it may not have the appropriate amount of time to macerate, which could also change the dynamics to some degree.

Definitely, I have things that have gotten much sweeter and performed better after sitting on the shelf for a few months.

Thank you for this review. Very helpful and interesting. I had issues with CDNIM EDT and L'aventure OG and Supremacy silver. All three were all lack luster. They all did not perform well.. longevity sucked.. and the smell was off. After 6 months of maceration- Supremacy Silver is performing beastmode now After 5 months of maceration- L'aventure OG is performing like a beast now. After 4 months of maceration- CDNIM EDT smells better and is a beast in performance. Maceration is real!!

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad they improved :)

@fasolaru8674

11 ай бұрын

What is the procedure?

@jaybowie6529

11 ай бұрын

@@fasolaru8674 Spray up to 10-15 sprays of the fragrance. Then let it sit in a dark and cool place for a few months. You should notice a positive change/difference toward the smell, longevity, Sillage.

@hii_raj

10 ай бұрын

​@@fasolaru8674burry them into the soil. It definitely helped me a lot

@Yellow.1844

7 ай бұрын

​@@fasolaru8674 spray 10 times then hide it in an average temp (not in you bathroom) outside of the sun place. Wait 6 months and thats it, not all perfumes macerate tho, some dont change.

I got my new batch of Red Tobacco 4 months ago, people said that the magnetic cap Red Tobacco performs bad and it did. Performed not as beast as the older batches. I was kinda disappointed then I put it on my shelf, came back 3 months later and now it has nuclear performance 👍 Never underestimate the power of maceration 😁

You do very good and also interesting videos. Thank you for that again. In my case I realized the maceration process in Armaf's CDNIM. The vanilla came alive and dominated the fragrance 1-2 months after spraying it for the first time. That way I enjoy it totally

@thenicesmellinggentleman

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! I’m happy maceration helped with the scent :)

@justinbautista698

9 ай бұрын

How is it today? Does it project and last long?

@heavenly81

9 ай бұрын

@@justinbautista698 yes it did. I'm using the EDP version now but I don't think it's as good. I'll go with the EDT when I'm done

My bottle of door homme intense 2020 had problems and didn’t last, had to wait a couple months and now lasts for a long time, but the one who went from skin scent to building bomb was Al haramain gold edition

I had a dramatic transformation of Rouat Al Musk. It smelled like diesel fumes and an old fashioned rose, it was atrocious and I had to open a window and wash it off twice but 4 months later I tried it again and it was a very lovely transparent and delicate sweet rose, I couldn't believe the difference.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

Yea, that’s the reason I ended the video with this advice - give a fragrance that you don’t like at least a few weeks and a second chance before getting rid of it :)

Yes!!! My Ramz silver smell d like shit when I first got it. Sprayed it once a day for a month and now it’s smells AMAZING. The oxygen is needed in some cases for sure

@theoyansen8267

Жыл бұрын

It was the same with my Lattafa Ejaazi bottle.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

That’s why I ended the video with the advice of not getting rid of a fragrance after one or two tests :)

@ryl4455

9 ай бұрын

I just got my ramz silver today. Can you describe what's the difference between the first time u spray it and after a month? Cuz it's the first time i sniffed it and its way too sweet for me to be used as my daily wear. Is the sweetness become more tolerante for you?

@kingyeti6336

9 ай бұрын

@@ryl4455 the sweetness fade tremendously for me. It became a lavender bomb now

@kingyeti6336

9 ай бұрын

@@ryl4455 also I never got the pear note on skin one time. I smelled it on the first spray on a strip. Then never smelled it again

Happened to me when I first got Afnan 9PM. Blind bought the fragrance due to the hype, smelled it, hated the alcohol and my first thought of it was "Yeah it kinda smells like Ultra Male but, this thing smells boring and simple". Uninterested with it so left it in the corner of my dresser for almost 2 months, gave it another chance and somehow the scent became a lot more complex, better and denser than before. It's my go-to fragrance for almost a year now.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

The same thing happened to my bottle of 9PM. Become a lot better scent and performance wise after e few months of maceration :)

@user-md8of9yj1d

Жыл бұрын

If it's better than jpg than I'm buying

@jkevin92

11 ай бұрын

I buy it last week..doesn't perfom on my skin and smelled just like you described..and now I'm macetating it😢

@thenicesmellinggentleman

11 ай бұрын

I hope it improves for you

@ohok5247

10 ай бұрын

@@jkevin92did it improve??

My Armaf CDN Untold smelt like alcohol when I first sprayed it. I was almost sure that I had bought a counterfeit. Another perfume seller told me to spray it 10-15 times and then leave the perfume in a dark cool place for 3 months and then try again. I did that for 3-4 days and tried the perfume again. The smell of the perfume changed dramatically. It went from the smell of plain alcohol to an amazingly sweet smelling juice as the other reviewers had described it to be. The change was OBVIOUS. I guess whether Maceration would work or not entirely depends on the perfume in question.

@lrfan-xs5kh

9 ай бұрын

Why did you spray 15 times? Whats the reason behid it?

@thenicesmellinggentleman

9 ай бұрын

Yep, my opinion is that not all frags change with maceration but some of them definitely do. @FrangerDicots-rh6df - the theory is that you need to empty some space inside the bottle so more oxygen gets in and accelerates the process of maceration :)

Great review! I have had one maceration experience so far with lattafa ejazzi. Performance was poor then a few weeks later it came alive. Now I am praying to the maceration gods to help my new bottle of fragrance world imperium. It performs terribly, the opening is gone after 15 minutes and lasts less than an hour on skin, maybe 2 hours on my shirt. I have had it for 10 days now and nothing has changed. 😞

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

I hope it improves for you!

@adamtrons

11 ай бұрын

I had the exact same issue with Imperium. Unfortunately, it never improved and I had to toss it. Was a shame because the bottle with the sapphire looking gemstones in the cap was beautiful but the fragrance had no projection or longevity. I don't understand why they can't make it more concentrated.

@justinbautista698

9 ай бұрын

How is it now?

@santanarodriguez881

9 ай бұрын

@@justinbautista698 4 months later, it maxed out at 1 hour projection on skin then fades to a moderate skin scent for 2 hours then it is very faint. The only way I can get the performance I like is to take a bath in it especially on clothes to get more than 4 hours. At work I have to reapply a couple of times to make it through the day. The scent is 🔥 but the juice is weak.

@nenadsubotic9507

5 ай бұрын

Do you leave them without the cap on or no?

1:51 this video very interesting and answered all my curiosity about maceration,especially it comes to armaf odyssey mega 🤝🏻

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

I’m happy that I was able to answer you questions, mate! Sorry it took me a while

Yes i agreed with you on lattafa ramz silver

Will keeping a fragrance in its original retail box hamper the process or slow it down even further? I have a perfume that i blind bought and i absolutely did not like it, it as way too powdery for me and the other notes just weren't noticeable to my nose. I had it for a year and i would always spray it once and put it back in its box just to see if i still didn't like it. I then decided to take it out of its box and keep it outside in my room to use as some sort of scent for my linens and sheets. After just a couple of weeks to my surprise one day, i notice that the scent has changed completely! Now i DO smell all the other notes and i really like it. I just noticed this yesterday and I've been spraying the scent on my ever since just to make sure I'm not hallucinating because its been so long I've had this fragrance and only now when its out of its box has it finally changed.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

4 ай бұрын

Probably exposing the bottle to light and room temperature will speed up maceration

Great points.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Swiss Arabian Pure Instinct after 90 days Maceration is the one that came alive the most for me! I still only get 2 hours out of my L' Aventure Sadly...

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

That’s why I said that not every fragrance macerates equally, at least from my experience :)

My bottle of Detour Noir changed a lot, more sweet an dense

@ammar.2300

Жыл бұрын

What about the performance

@yusuff7_

11 ай бұрын

@@ammar.2300depends on the fragrance, but most of the time the projection and performance changes too (in a great way)

@fasolaru8674

11 ай бұрын

How long and what was the procedure?

Do not confuse Maceration with Maturation. Maturation is what makes your fragrance perfom better and what strenghten the scent profile. Most if not all of your clone fragrance from your favorite middle eastern brands will need to mature. It takes a few weeks but a sold month or two will do the job. When you first get your bottle spray it in the air for about 20 to 30 times. Put it back in the bottle and let it sit away from the sun. After 3 weeks spray it again 10 to 15 times (you should start noticing a change in potency) then after a month and some change you can start wearing it. By month 2 or 3 you'll start picking up new notes in your fragrance. My most mindblowing case is Armaf hunter intense. When I first got it... It smelled weird and all over the place. My girlfriend told it smelled like cheap indian perfume. I let it sit for over a year... decided to give it another chance then BOOM... it's my girlfriends favorite... and the perfume that gets me the most compliments especially from women.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the explanation :) I’ve noticed that different people call this process differently - maceration, maturation, steeping and all sorts of other things :)

If maceration is the process of extracting essential oils... then where is the solid plant material located in these bottles?

How many sprays, how much air, do you think it takes for a good maceration process?

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

From what I’ve read and from personal experience, about ten sprays and at least a few weeks (3-4 weeks)

This is my top fragrance chanel.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! ❤️ I’m trying to be honest when sharing my experience :) That is the idea of my channel. And I appreciate the kind words!

My lattafa oud mood firstly smelled like oud chill 😂 thats it no caramel sweet no smokey just poor but after 1 and half months, i just realized that how sweet oudy and smokey the oud mood is... Just 3 sprays are more than enough to fill the room.. The colour has also been changed little bit amber dark than previous... So i think yes maceration is possible for some middle eastern sweet dark and resinis perfumes... Please let me know if any of you got same experience like me ...

@thenicesmellinggentleman

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting and sharing your experience, mate! :)

Im hearing the performance improves on the Kismet.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

Probably, like a lot of middle eastern frags :)

You can also cheat. After 5 or 10 healthy sprays by removing the cap and letting it sit for 7 to 10 days if you need a quick turn around worked like a beast on CDNIM and Oud for Glory

Maceration definitely is a thing with DUA fragrances. Not necessarily changes in performance but the entire scent changes.

To add something. I saw many people sold their fragrances day after coz it was not performing! Wait a little. Last month I purchased Side Effect. God it's so syrupy,notes are not clear, performance are bad. Little by litte it's getting better. Fragrance is opening from week to week.

@Agan515

8 ай бұрын

how it performs now? beast mode already?😄Just received my side effect last week and feel something weird too.

Thank you for making this video, my question is, how can i trust your nose to review (or any reviewer) a Middle Eastern fragrance out of the box without my maceration? The majority who can't get access to fragrance samples will buy according to reviews, and have you thought of re reviewing fragrances after maceration? And I'm glad you brought up Armaf odyssey mega because when you first reviewed it i thought about getting one and letting it macerate, and i highly recommend shaking the bottle every once in a while during maceration

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

You are asking some great questions here that probably deserve a whole separate video :) I’ve thought about re-visiting some old frags to give an update about performance. I personally try to wear a fragrance at least a few times for real before doing a video about it, which becomes hard at some point because I always get new ones and sometimes there’s simply not enough time to test them all out.

@SalemMillion

Жыл бұрын

@@thenicesmellinggentleman what you did in this video is great and no one have done it except for one female reviewer, making like an after maceration series and see if it changed or not, making notes for before and after, like what you did now with Armaf odyssey mega, i saved money I won't get it and i thank you for making this video, an after maceration series is great and that's exactly what we want in the fragrance community, i am sick and tired of the most complimented Fragrance clickbaits, we want to know more about the fragrance itself, I'm already enjoying your videos, the unique ones comparing 2 or 3 clones to the original (I'm hinting for Armaf untold vs haramain Rouge 😉) i just got back in the fragrance game again, and all of my fragrances are in maceration stage unfortunately and I can't but I can't keep my hand off milestone 2 months and I'm down to 50ml, cdni limited edition i just got on sale for 70$ and I won't touch it till after 2-3 months

@santanarodriguez881

Жыл бұрын

Armaf is my favorite clone house, they all performed great right out of the box. The CDN line is especially strong: intense man EDT, urban man elixir, Sillage and milestone are all beast mode performers for me.

My dior homme intense had bad performance when i got it... now after like 1month the smell is a bit different and the performance is way better...pretty stupid to pay 220$CAD for a designer perfume which u cannot use it right away and need to wait (bought club de nuit urban elixir and salvatore ferragamo uomo signature for 40$ each and both of them have INSANE performance ) kind of tired with expensive fragrance

@SalemMillion

Жыл бұрын

The majority of desinger fragrances are already macerated. You probably have a different formulation, Maceration is mostly for inspired by fragrances and Middle Eastern and some of the niche houses

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

That’s true, maceration is mostly talked about when it comes to middle eastern frags, but I have also heard a lot of ppl reporting scent and performance improvements for DHI

@botordojocpklipp4292

11 ай бұрын

I just got dior homme intense and the performance of my batch (may 2023) was not good at all, lasts maybe 5-6 hours but after 2-3 hours it turns into a skin scent. Since you hade luck with your maceration i guess i will try it!

@botordojocpklipp4292

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@thenicesmellinggentlemanjust got DHI smells great but not like it did in the store and performance is bad. Put it back in the box and in the back of a drawer! Will be back in 4 weeks with an update if i dont forget!🕺🏼

@thenicesmellinggentleman

11 ай бұрын

It will be great if you update us with the performance! I hope that it improves :)

I just got HAWAS.. smell is great.. but performance is very bad I did 6-7 sprays and it lasted like 5 hours people say they cant spray more than 3-4 times.. that fills a room.. beast more.. I hope maceration changes it.. because 5 hours is not good.. if goes to 8 hours then it will be ok my afnan rare carbon was lasting 6-7 hours and now it lasts 10.. so maybe that will improve for hawas since I read about it and many people say hawas gets stronger..

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

I hope it gets better for you man

@theoyansen8267

Жыл бұрын

I used to spray 5 times of Hawas when I first got it, and now I do 3 sprays max.

@ismael85

Жыл бұрын

@@theoyansen8267 there is hope then 🙌

@Youssef-td2si

Жыл бұрын

Hey Keep us updated ! I also started maceration of Hawas today 🙌

@ismael85

Жыл бұрын

@@Youssef-td2si I got a macerated turathi blue I think.. side by side it projects like crazy for 3 hours and outshine hawas as being stronger

Macerating a fragrance really does work, and I would encourage all fragrance users to try it. I use this process on almost all my fragrances.

@kelvins4522

10 ай бұрын

how long do u usually macerate it for¿

@Gearup424

10 ай бұрын

@@kelvins4522 spray a new bottle 3-4 times and let it sit a month in a dark space.

If you have to wait 6 months after buying a fragrance it's not really worth it. I let them sit for one month maybe it's not enough though.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

I agree that 6 months is way too long, but a few weeks shouldn’t be a problem. At the end of the day you have already spent the money and after a fragrance has been opened and sprayed it’s lost a lot of it’s value, so why not wait a few weeks before loosing money by selling it? :)

@Rachiid1

Жыл бұрын

@@thenicesmellinggentleman Thanks for your reply. As i said i am currently letting the fragrance i buy sit one month after first use. Sometimes ypu got to be patient lol !

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

Yea, a lot of important things in life actually require patience, lol. I try to reply to all comments but sometimes the KZread app doesn’t notify me. I hope maceration will help with the one you are waiting for right now 🤞🏼

Can you still use it while its macerating?

@thenicesmellinggentleman

10 ай бұрын

Yep, that will probably accelerate the process

I turn the bottle upside down and introduce air by spring 20-30 times and then let it sit for a week and repeat the process a week after, I do this with all my clones, they all change

@babsknk3965

17 күн бұрын

Hi there, did you spray while it's upside down.. And I saw spraying 20 to 30 times.. Is it once spray or 3 to 4 days.. Thanks

@cap2666

16 күн бұрын

@@babsknk3965 I repeat the process 3-4 timer, during 1 month

My afnan 9pm, armaf cdn edp andqaed al fursan is beast mode after 2months of maceration

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

I’m happy the performance improved :)

@miclairmiclair876

11 ай бұрын

How long do you currently get out of afnan 9pm on skin , my bottle disappears on my skin in 30 mins but last days on clothes, I really like the smell so I got a backup bottle, I’m gonna let them sit for a while

@jacksonibrahim7569

11 ай бұрын

@@miclairmiclair876 last 10hours on my skin it depends on skin chemistry

Honestly, I think that CDNIM was the turning point in the clone market.

I understand it to be maturation and not maceration. Am I incorrect? Cheers.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

2 ай бұрын

Seems like everyone is calling it different :)

@shmoopiebear

2 ай бұрын

@@thenicesmellinggentleman Whatever it's called, I do know it works. Cheers.

The Alexander j oud zafeer smelled like vinager then i let it sit for 2 months now it smells like gourmond vanilla ooooooh so good sometimes you just have to wait and have faith .

@thenicesmellinggentleman

Жыл бұрын

It’s true :) I’m glad it improved for you

@user-md8of9yj1d

Жыл бұрын

@@thenicesmellinggentleman smelling good never looked better

After it is bottled and arrives then it’s called maturation. Not maceration.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

6 ай бұрын

Different people call it differently :)

@clapforboobies5892

6 ай бұрын

@@thenicesmellinggentleman chemists and perfumists call it maturation.

I wish that all my fragrances that "doesn't last" would last 5-6 hours as your non-lasting Armaf clone.

@thenicesmellinggentleman

9 ай бұрын

My skin usually works well with fragrances but I know some people have skins that just don’t hold well to most scents for some reason

i doubt maceration would improve longevity and performance. it would make the juice stand out since the alcohol was gone but thats just it. maceration could also means degradation in perfurmes cause perfumes do expires too

@Alritealritealrite

5 ай бұрын

I had Bentley absolute. And it didn't last at all. It's been a few months now and it definitely last longer. I don't know the reason, but it's sitting around seem to work.