Now would be the time for Penpot to add the functionality to import Figma artboards so it's easy for people to move over to Penpot.

@AstonJay

Жыл бұрын

@@stairjoke it's not that difficult to find out how it works. It's a programming language like any other. Find how it was written and compiled, and you have yourself a chance at cracking the thing wide open. It's only a matter of time

@IStMl

Жыл бұрын

Tons of products allow Figma import. There's an API.

@ArifBasri

Жыл бұрын

I dont need to have the import function ready to convince me to migrate everything to pen pot.

@sebastiangudino9377

Жыл бұрын

​@@stairjoke Figma has an API that allows you to examine Figma projects, that's all you need for something like this really

@IStMl

Жыл бұрын

@@stairjoke yeah and what prevents you from using your existing account ?

Just learned that Penpot is already working on implementing Auto Layout ('Layout' in Penpot). I might be switching right away once it's done. Let's make Penpot the Blender of UX/UI Designing Tools!!

@OsonduTochukwutBoy44wiz

Жыл бұрын

I fully support you in this. Since Figma is fading into the hands of Adobe, it's right time PenPot Devs start warming and leveling up to make Penpot peoples loved choice.

@gozearbus1584

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they do it better

@adams.george

Жыл бұрын

@@OsonduTochukwutBoy44wiz 100% Agree 💯

@adams.george

Жыл бұрын

@@gozearbus1584 Yeah I hope so. Guess it's time do my part to contribute to the Penpot community to help build the tool.

this is such unfortunate news. i don't think i have ever been this upset by an acquisition. i love figma

@guitar602991

Жыл бұрын

How is Adobe alllowed to be such a monopoly? Next the prices will be doubled within the next few years.

@isodoubIet

8 ай бұрын

Figma balls hahahhahahha

@jerbear7952

4 ай бұрын

​@@guitar602991what incentive do any attorneys general have to bring a case against them

Adobe seems so scammy. You sign up you have to agree to a contract and then when you try and cancel they're like, "Wait, if you stay we'll give you the next three months free." "No thanks", "Okay, what about if we give you 6 months free."

@Adam-ds4ey

Жыл бұрын

Yeah - In addition to that, a lot of their products charge a subscription cancellation fee 🤯

@Harmxn

Жыл бұрын

So what if I pirate their software and get 9999months free

@parlor3115

Жыл бұрын

@@Harmxn Figma balls

@Denvercoder

Жыл бұрын

@@Harmxn No, don't do that... 😉 Piracy is wrong... 😉 Not to mention illegal... 😉

@mohamedelidrissi810

Жыл бұрын

Nah piracy is completely legal against something like Adobe

I switched to Penpot from XD and I'm surprised at how stable it is and how many features they've already added. I've not used Figma but it is a very nice XD alternative (and catching up fast)

Hi Scott, I'm going to tell you something funny and painful at the same time. I closed my account in a bank here in Spain because I started to feel they did some unfair things. After a couple of years as a client in another bank, it was acquired by the first one. Then, I moved my account to another bank. One year later, the same story, this bank was acquired for the first one. With Adobe, it happens exactly the same. I'd been for years running away from them, and always, always, they became buying my preferred tools and destroying them. Flash, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, and now Figma.

@bosnianlain

Жыл бұрын

Ofc this happens, but its a different story when it involves open source projects, i dont really know how open penpot actually is, but in general, open source projects cannot "die", because everyone can replicate them (in a totally legal way), because the code is open to look and replicate, thats why you will never have to worry about microsoft buying linux for example.

@EVL624

Жыл бұрын

@@bosnianlain It is MPL2, so no risk of it suddenly being made proprietary.

If penpot has auto layout and components, I'm in.

@Penpot

Жыл бұрын

We’ll have so soon!

@Sta-dx6bm

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing

@boredguy1663

Жыл бұрын

Me too, If they add it then i am in. I also want to see plugins inside Penpot.

@videos6505

Жыл бұрын

@@Penpot You have a release and feature log?

I use framer over figma, but this looks promising. 👌

Just imagine how much Adobe must of hated figma. That makes me roll over laughing

Adobe sucks! Full disclosure; I grew up with Adobe software, they did amazing things, right up until they forced my hand by demanding that I rent their software for a monthly subscription. I turned my back on them when I started freelancing and vowed never to subscribe to their dark arts. Now that they have acquired Figma, I fear that the best features of Figma will be locked behind an extortionate monthly subscription. A dark day for design. 😢 I'm going to try Penpot tonight!

@firewoodloki

Жыл бұрын

Auto layout for $20 at least.

@Dante-fk4yi

Жыл бұрын

@@firewoodloki new fonts 40$

@misanthropicmusings4596

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, even renting their software is ridiculously expensive -- compare to say Microsoft Office. I know it's a different space, but I think it's an apt comparison.

@SeeThroughist

Жыл бұрын

If enough people had signed up to pay for Figma licenses they wouldn't have had to sell their product to Adobe... Honestly as a professional if someone can't afford to pay $12 per month for a tool that will help them make thousands per month then they might want to think about a different profession. Many other professions have way more expensive monthly overheads. For example an average Uber driver spends about $200 on fuel per month... Considering that, $50 per month for a Creative Cloud licence isn't actually that bad.

@hrgdavor

Жыл бұрын

@@SeeThroughist the price was not, oh no we are bankrupt sale. It is a userbase grab by adobe. With decades asshole moves by adobe, I also am in the camp of avoiding Adobe, but everyone can make their own choice, I just like to voice my disgust with Adobe where possible.

Wow. Thanks for the shout out Scott. That was unexpected :D

I just signed up and started working with Penpot. I'm genuinely impressed. It feels very Figma-like 👍👍👍

I fully support in lovers of Figma switching over to Penpot. Since Figma is fading into the hands of Adobe, it's right time PenPot Devs start warming and leveling up to make Penpot peoples loved choice. The next target is moving this App from Alpha version to a Stable version. I'm really loving this App (Penpot)

@YinkaKaris

Жыл бұрын

That's a selfish and myopic outlook. If you started a company like Figma and Adobe called to acquire for $20B..would you say No?

@xthetic.studios

Жыл бұрын

@@YinkaKaris sure business would have to continue operating as businesses but the difference is being ethical.

Nice, I have a current project in Figma I have to finish. For the next one I'll give this a try. Thanks, Scott!

Adobe just had no choice - Figma had been pushing their products out of the market.

Holy cow man haha you are so talented - already pumping a video out for this #legend Super sad about this news too. Thanks for the recommendation! Signing up

I'm definitely moving to PenPot too. Going to give it a try. Perhaps even contribute to some of the development as well. I became a CS student for exactly this reason... to know how to make the programs that are costing me an arm and a leg just to have access to them... If I ever make something as good as Figma / Photoshop, etc. I would definitely make it free for individuals for life, but any company is going to have to pay up. Because I know how companies mistreat open source devs as well as their software. But individuals who have a passion for design are left with having to pay insane amounts to express their passion in a digital form

@mrmalio

Жыл бұрын

this is the best comment so far. someone who will add to the development instead of complain

Totally Loved it!!! Created an account ASAP!! I share exactly the same feeling you have with Adobe and with this acquisition. I wanted to look for an alternative and this video came in just in time.

I've been using PenPot (self-hosted) for a while now, and truly enjoy using it. But even I have been doing the bulk of my design work with Figma simply because "everyone else is using it." I'm looking forward to Penpot's gaining popularity, though, as I do believe the more people make the switch, the better it will be. Its biggest hurdle in gaining acceptance will be in the migration of existing projects from closed-format Figma to open-format PenPot files, though. Looking forward to seeing what a larger community can do for it!

Thank you for covering this! Penpot looks great. After you get familiar with it please make a tutorial.

"I'm not in the business of giving Adobe any money" My man 💪 what a god awful company is that.

This looks GREAT! Like many here, I switched away from Adobe products. I now use Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo, and Affinity Publisher. I've never looked back, either. Each of them are only currently $56 USD and they upgrade for free. Also run half price sales frequently. Much more intuitive interface as well as much better functionality. I bought Macromedia Fireworks, Dreamweaver, and Flash before Adobe acquired them, too. Still going strong!! Time for Adobe to realize that even the "mighty" can be brought down. Anyone remember when WordPerfect was king???

is there going to be a way to copy and paste images from say pexels and paste it directly into the artboard? That was one of my favourite aspects of figma.

Alright, gonna go all in on Affinity Designer from today!

Hey, another one substitute may worth to take a look is Lunacy. Interface quite closer to Figma, and some more features than Pinpot Still didn't decide which one is better

I don’t know why Adobe is so much money angry. They are run it like mafias. I am from a developing country and you know sometimes you barely make money, paying for these services is pain. Figma had give me freedom and love. I hope penpot will help.

There’s also Lunacy which is also free and runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux.

@florianjardin3064

Жыл бұрын

so far that app is sick and seems a bit more ' the future of quick n easy design ' - will see if it is better than penpot

Thanks for indication.

Ironically enough, I never heard of Figma until it was mentioned in a blog post introducing Penpot 🙂thanks for a little more insight. God bless,

@the-deagledude

Жыл бұрын

No offence but you lived under a rock the last 10 years ... Figma was THE go to tool for every UX designer/graphic designer the last 1 years ... Always came on top on graphic design tools lists the last years.

Would love to hear your opinion about Penpot after some extended use.

Affinity and Figma *have been* my Adobe alts. Hello Penpot, let's you and I do the UI dance now.

i will love to see more tutorials on penpot

Cool. Thanks Scott!

Just came across this video - 11mo later... I'm curious how this aged?

Potential upside as an AEM dev is a future headless + react + figma implementation, but even then - lukewarm at best on today's news. Just love Figma so much, but thanks for the alternative!

I remember when Adobe bought Soundforge, an audio editing application that was in many ways superior to Audacity. Before Adobe acquired them, I had purchased it because it was so good I thought it was worth it to have the full version. At the time I paid about 50 as I recall. After Adobe acquired it they exploded the price to about 300 (going off my recall, I think that's about right -- just know it was ridiculously expensive) dollars. That's when my hate boner for Adobe started. I welcome Penpot to the opensource community!

@martefact

Жыл бұрын

..."hate boner".... omg lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 🤣😂

I'll give it a try. Thx

Penpot appears to be On-line only. I like to work off line. What about Vectormator?

I would like to see it `plasmic app` will do some integration for Penpot. I need to find more about this news as I have moved from Adobe a few years ago to Affinity. I have used Figma time to time to collaborate with designers and figure out if I will be able to use several templates I have bought in past for Branding docs or if my money went out of chimney. Hmm....

Penpot Tutorial? Count me in!

Had a look on penpot a week ago (before figma) and found it cool but saw, that they won prices 3 years ago already. Seemed not to be fast progress - without components an design libraries it makes no sense to switch (from Sketch). But I will keep an eye on it.

Holly sh... . You already made a video about a blog that I just read out just now.

Nice find!!! 🤩

I use(d) Figma almost daily for the past years - same reaction like you XD - the only real features I miss in Penpot are the quick (&dirty) image editing magic moves I got addicted to in figma, as they are so efficient for the daily grind. PS only for final production, but now I hope Penpot catching up soon

Don't forget to zoom the UI when making videos. It's hard to see anything.

I think they have auto layout and variants/states on their road map.

Figma integration of import/export would make it a no-brainer to switch since a lot of my works are mostly on Figma

I just start learning Figma recently and avoid Adobe for so long because Adobe monthly subscription cost in my country in extremely expensive. I'm afraid I have to say goodbye to Figma.

I was paying attention to the news on Twitter... your Twitter. :D

Thank you for this intro on Penpot! I will also be moving away from Figma considering what Adobe did with Fireworks after its acquisition in 2005. Fireworks was a big threat to Adobe's Photoshop, Illustrator and Dreamweaver products combined and Adobe promised not to kill it but ultimately did so just a few short years later. They even stopped development of the product just within the first 2 years.

@poppingjaz

Жыл бұрын

Dreamweaver was made by the same company that made Fireworks (Macromedia) until Adobe acquired them. They let Fireworks die and kept Dreamweaver

@gashumba888

Жыл бұрын

​@@poppingjaz I stand corrected but my comment still stands. Fireworks was a lot more popular amongst web devs and independent web designers than Adobe's own tools. Many who used open-source coding tools preferred Fireworks.

Good insight.

Thank you for your service of not giving Adobe any money 😄 great video

Why not Sketch? I'm in no way implying that Penpot isn't worthy, just wondering your thoughts on Sketch.

Back to sketch!! :)

As a person/student living with parents and having 0 money for paying for stuff on the internet, I hope this open-sourced tool will help. I’ve been making school posters and learning materials on Figma and boy, I hated when big greedy corporations decide to buy them and make them unavailable for everyone. Ugh, it’s annoying, despite many reasons for the acquisition.

There's another FOSS design tool, similar to this. Quant-UX

Please, do same review about Lunacy 🙏🙏

anyone here tried both Penpot and Lunacy, and finally choose Penpot? because i tried and found lunacy give me better UI and tools, but Penpot is opensource wich i hope this app will continue dveleoped and be better in the recent future

Penpot should make Figma plugins compatible with Penpot

Sad is that there are no community people anymore who can come up with any free open source complex desktop application.

so only sketch vs adobe???

I looked into the app it seems like the people who made it put some thought into it. They give you a tutorial section that is easy to access. I need auto layout and components and even padding sight. Figma was becoming soooo good! How sad. Guess I'll have to wait a few months to make the switch.

@firewoodloki

Жыл бұрын

If Figma could make it, they could make it. Give it time. At least an open source program will never be taken away again. I am sure most community contributors are switching over. They hate Adobe harvesting their community assets. Things will last longer in the Open Source world.

First Heroku, then the Queen, now Figma. For fuck sake. What a couple weeks.

Adobe's acqusition of Mixamo is going great. I mean it went 'beta' for years, didn't work right with windows 10, and generally never got updated. Other than that, great.

Noww...how can we get rid of google? they started charging for google Photos, and also charged for Gmail with your Domain... how long until they start charging for regular Gmail?

@syntaxfm

Жыл бұрын

I use Synology photos personally. It’s not nearly as good though.

@tomich20

Жыл бұрын

@@syntaxfm great, but i was looking for a place in the cloud to store all my stuff for free and automatically from my phone. Dont mind if they target me with Adds by analyzing my stuff, just want easy to use illimited photo and video storage 😬😬

it is developed in Cloujure... how I am supposed to contribute! I want it to be developed with JS

Hi can you donwload Penpot?

Have the same feeling about this as when Trello was consumed by atlassian.

I try penpot It is amazing

Yes. Adobe killed it. Moving on.

what about pixso over penpot?

Try Akira

but it is not giving a way to convert the design into HTML CSS like figma

Lunacy is also another interesting free alternative to Figma

@tamis5908

Жыл бұрын

Agreed -- nice thing is you don't need to be connected online to use it on your local machine. It's been my go to app.

"Now all restaurants are Taco Bell.” -Lenina Huxley

@syntaxfm

Жыл бұрын

This was a Pizza Hut Now it's all covered with daisies

not long after PenPot matures to v 2.0, adobe shits the bed LOL. Love it.

Let's see if Adobe get that deal because they are trying to buy a direct competitor ( in fact the main competitor ) they are likely to face problems with regulations. The deal is not settled yet!

@syntaxfm

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t count on anti trust laws doing anything here given how many other seemingly monopolies have been allowed to form via buying competitors.

@44galore

Жыл бұрын

@@syntaxfm unfortunately very true 😞

@douglascounts4634

Жыл бұрын

LOL, Anti-Trust in America is dead. Politicians only use it now to lean on companies for campaign contributions. Has Anti-Trust protected us from Google, Facebook, or Twitter overreaches? America is now an oligarchy with a façade of democracy hiding that fact. Bill Gates and China are even buying up all the US farmland. What is Anti-Trust doing about that? That is even a more concerning issue when you let an adversary buy up large swaths of farmland needed to feed your own people, but politicians love the campaign money it brings in. And with "dark money" legal now, China or Russia can donate to US politician's campaigns.

This is too bad, sorry to hear Figma has been consumed by the dark side... :( Kind of sucks i have a tool that would allow you to draw my pages in Figma and then convert it onto React, and then Svelte... Would be interested if there is an export model like Figma has.

I have to try this. Never gonna use Adobe shit

I bet that MS and Apple has stocks from Adobe or maybe they are in the main board so they ensure that Adobe never make a version for Linux.

I am tired of being ripped off Adobe too. Gave them probably 10 G-babies

is the deal confirmed? like confirm confirmed?

my mom is a CPA. she got a company provided new laptop and with it came windows 11 & the newest adobe & Microsoft suites. she uses Adobe Acrobat all day everyday. somehow they broke it. completely. no one is happy. i googled it for her and everyone hates it.

Open source alternative: inkscape->pureref, and back it up with git.

A killing alternative to Figma with its Hello square

Pixso is like twin brother of Figma

But can we port penpot to svelteKit 🤔 Only kinda joking

@thedelanyo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, penkit, penvelte. Pick one

@Aprch

Жыл бұрын

I'm seriously thinking it through. At least maybe the UI part. It's all written in clojure/clojurescript (compiles to js). I'd imagine it'd get a ton more of hands on deck if it were based on a more common ui framework.

Penpot, check for ui-editor

Oh, lord frick adobe, now no figma anymore

Lets us join the penpot comunity

Figma... ... ... ... how come I cant turn this into a 'deez nuts' joke?

we are being manipulated by all software providers

For fucks sake. I've been avoiding Adobe like a champ for so long. And using Figma DAILY. Thanks for the news. I guess :( I hope that in 2025 you won't make a video titled "Penpot bought by Adobe".

@deidyomega

Жыл бұрын

even if they did buy penpot, it wont matter as its open source, and someone will just fork it and keep it out of adobe's hands.

@PiseyHean

Жыл бұрын

I was obsessed by Adobe, run away from it. now they still find the way to appear in my life again T_T

Agree. Adobe is evil, but on the other hand I use it so many years. I don't image to operate without Photoshop, Illustrator or Lightroom. Probably there are alternatives, but it is not easy to switch ;(

@JohnSane

Жыл бұрын

You can do it!

@alishacrawford8317

Жыл бұрын

Yep I've been using Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher now will look at Penpot & Lunacy. All this learning new software has gotten me out of my Adobe rut now if Icould only find a good replacement for Adobe After FX then I would be completely free of my Adobe addiction. Man it takes time to wean :-)

@ElPetrenko

Жыл бұрын

It actually is. Try is.

@alishacrawford8317

Жыл бұрын

@@ElPetrenkoI'm looking for an Adobe After Effects replacement software know any?

Open Source is the future 🙌

Why not sketch Scott?

@reaperburnout5694

Жыл бұрын

sketch mac os only

All PenPot needs is auto layout and I'm good to go.

Oh man. You are right. Adobe will mascarade figma. Figma is competition for xd.

@benfrese3573

6 ай бұрын

Nah, they will prolly massacre XD.

@Vetrivel.Shanmugam

6 ай бұрын

@@benfrese3573 figma adobe deal went on a tossed

Adobe couldn't handle the fact that Figma stole Ai's thunder and that it is in many ways better than Ai without the insane costs attached to Adobe's CC... Now they bought it only to destroy it and make their Ai program #1 again...

figma is great , def not dead.. they just made ui messy and complicated lately .. but they arent going any where .. still the leader forever .. its not dead cmon

@florianjardin3064

Жыл бұрын

lol