Drake is Will Smith. His music has no soul and grit to it. Its too clean and culturally ambiguous. That aint hip-hop and that ain't black culture.

@user-pp4zw9lm6j

4 ай бұрын

Fresh Prince is better than Mos Def. No 🧢

@keenynthewise

Ай бұрын

Bruh I’m from the future and can agree with you

Drake has a song called Pop Star where he says I’m a Pop Star

@miked.336

4 ай бұрын

But he didn't say in that song he's not hip hop lol

@100timessquare

4 ай бұрын

Drake is trash!

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

@@miked.336 Rapping don't make you Hip Hop, that makes you a rapper. Rap is a music genre like any other. When you ARE Hip Hop, there is no debate, no one argues if Ice Cube is Hip Hop even though he has produced some of the highest selling comedy franchises in the world.

@flylima

4 ай бұрын

Lil Wayne said he was a rockstar back in the day but was he?

@DeuteronomyKnowles

4 ай бұрын

@@flylimaYeah, and look what happened? Rock music fans responded to Lil Wayne the exact same way that hip-hop artists, like Mos Def, and actual hip-hop fans are responding to Drake. We don’t accept you. Why? What happens when this thing (hip-hop culture’s impact) collapses? What will you do? What are you in it for? We all damn well know what Drake is in it for. No need to tell us. That’s why Mos Def said what he said. Same thing that rock artists and fans said about Lil Wayne.

Drake is now more pop than hip hop. He chased that success and he got it. His artistic persona is pop but hip hop adjacent. The circles he runs in is more that of pop than of hip hop. And that’s because of whatever access being pop gave him that he chose to dwell in.

@keletsosebolai3795

4 ай бұрын

When has he been hiphop??

@chrismaybe

4 ай бұрын

The moment he made room for improvement, and comeback season. That's when

@oladeebiazazi4538

4 ай бұрын

@@keletsosebolai3795Most of his career lol

@Jay-jb2vr

4 ай бұрын

Thank Me Later, Nothing Was The Same, Take Care etc.

@jjuninc77

4 ай бұрын

@@oladeebiazazi4538 can't be most of your career. Then you something else. He makes pop albums, does features with new artists (who are even less hip hop than him) Tell me when Redman was hip hop for most of his career. He is hip hop. Drake is as hip hop as Taylor Swift is country. Rosenburg thinks Doja Cat is hip hop.... He has made an argument about her bars. This is laughable....

Drake is hip pop, not hip hop.

@byanymeansnecessary9329

4 ай бұрын

Nope, just pop

@christopher399

4 ай бұрын

Was Beastie Boys hip rock then? Or hip punk? Drake makes pop music. But he also makes hip hop music. Some artists do more than one genre. Drake doesn't stop being a hip hop artist just because he also makes pop music. Tyler The Creator also has visited other genres. Does that mean his hip hop music is no longer hip hop?

@Artislife1992

4 ай бұрын

💯💯💯

@uzo9887

4 ай бұрын

Agree!!

@kharyvines6971

4 ай бұрын

​@christopher399 BEASTIE BOYS. ARE WAY MORE HIP HOP THAN DRAKE. lost lose when you DON'T THINK ALL MUSIC IS HIP HOP. you tried BUT failed.

Umi Says also has a part where he says "I want my people to be free, want Black people to be free." drake ignored that part.

Idk Drake wrote a huge comment about Joe Budden, he definitely CARES what he thinks and says.

Mos Def vs. Drake: Unpacking the 'Pop' and the 'Target' of Hip Hop #forthebrospodcast kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZNolpuogcjPaM4.html

i feel like people want drake to rap about the plight of the black man in this country forgetting he from Canada.

@Lebo-Aaliyah

Ай бұрын

😂

@Matthew-xl5bc

Ай бұрын

Racism is still an issue in Canada

@yaasiynmuhammad6892

Ай бұрын

He can write about the plight of the Black man in Canada.

Hotline Bling is Drake's biggest song. It's definitely pop.

The one thing that I believe is missed in this conversation is that HIP-HOP itself is more mainstream than it's ever been and has expanded and made more accessible than once imagined. HIP-HOP has grown from something played in basements and underground clubs to a worldwide phenomenon. Many artists have contributed that expansion, which, for better or for worse, has brought this commercialism and POP feel to HIP-HOP. This is before we discuss how radio plays a hand in all of this. I come from the Era when HIP-HOP was only played on the radio on Saturdays from 8 pm to midnight. An Era where artists like Jay-Z and Biggie despite their origins, when their success got to a certain point, still needed a Premmo beat to keep their HIP-HOP validaty intact because too much radio plays or exposure for that matter meant you "crossed over". Mainly because back then, as a Black person, living. a more marginalized black life, having a marginalized black experience, HIP-HOP was UNIQUE AND EXCLUSIVE to us or those having that experience. It felt personal and was safeguarded as such. One of those people safeguarding HIP-HOP was MOS-DEF, and his answer to the Drake question is who MOS-DEF/Yasin-Bey has always been. Please listen to BlackSrar's "What's Beef", if you need some clarity. Fast forward to today, and Drake is everything that Yasin-Bey would have attacked and rebelled against. Especially when Drake himself came up under a MOS-DEF and Little Brother, others back before all his success. So, if Drake is on at the mall, or Target, while you're shopping, he no longer feels personal or exclusive, and therefore, he no longer feels HIP-HOP to him. And I get it. However, just like HIP-HOP has grown, so have we as Black people. At least we have more presence in the world, We're at the Mall, We're at Target, we're at NFL games, we're traveling abroad, and as we have branced out, so has the music and culture we safeguard. So, while Mos is right in his assessment that Drake is POP, frankly, so is HIP-HOP.

@user-is7js8ko1s

4 ай бұрын

yes. Good points made in your assessment.

@casimiran

4 ай бұрын

Great

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

I appreciate your comment and observation. The increased presence of rap music in the mainstream is simply a testament to corporations exploiting whatever music is popular. You may remember a time when Hip Hop was ONLY played on the radio, but I remember also in that time The Super Mario Bros. TV show theme was a rap song, MC Hammer had a cartoon, Kid and Play had a cartoon, Captain Planet had a rap in it, these companies would use things "The Kids Like" to garner their attention always having in their mind Hip Hop would not be around this long. an artist like Drake would always be around today because if rap was not here, Drake would be doing whatever is popular to make it, just like those corporations. That's NOT HIP HOP!!! Hip Hop is rooted in personal expression and regional imprint.

@lamarkpowells

4 ай бұрын

Who would of thought you could come to the KZread comment section and get some jewels. Spot on assessment

@LoneWulf278

4 ай бұрын

This comment is gold.

Drake is a pop artist by way of hip hop. I have heard his music playing at Dunkin Donuts, H&M, Trader Joes, etc. There is nothing wrong with what Yasin Bey said.

@jessehenderson2967

Ай бұрын

Drake played on the work friendly radio, when we tried to play a hiphop station the old white guys and all the white girls would complain to management. But Post Malone and Drake were fine on the pop family radio station. Thats the difference to me.

@Woktoharlem

Ай бұрын

@@jessehenderson2967 Facts

If this new generation don’t get their act together, hiphop/Rap is not gonna last in the next few years. The music quality is terrible, rappers don’t want to be rappers but called Rock stars. Hiphop/Rap is on the clock.

@know_no_th3ory128

4 ай бұрын

If we made it through the snap n roll era we're definitely fine today lol.

@keepitfunky1858

4 ай бұрын

@@know_no_th3ory128 lol you have a point, but right now that snap n roll era is looking way better then this NBA young boy I just wanna rock lil uzi era 😂

@th3thiiird3y3

4 ай бұрын

As long as the youth can express themselves publicly, Rap will exist. Quality amongst a genre doesn't contain itself via generations. It's up to you/us to hunt for what benefits you/us. The only difference between now and then, is the vast ocean called the *_internet_* . It's not as streamlined, though, more commercially reliant on streams.

@kevinjohnson963

4 ай бұрын

There’s no such thing as hip hop/ rap ….rapping is part of hip hop one the art forms of hip hop

@floral35

4 ай бұрын

sit all the way down

Drake is the McDonald’s of Hip Pop. He is a distributor of microwave bubble gum rap.

@donttouchmycologne6374

4 ай бұрын

You’re gorgeous!

@UNORTHODOXMAN144

4 ай бұрын

Word Up!!! @sanara77 I concur

@MC-LIL-ICE

4 ай бұрын

u dont know drakes music clearly

@Highznberg

4 ай бұрын

Listen to "7 am on Bridle Path" , far from bubble gum rap

@sagemode6

4 ай бұрын

@@donttouchmycologne6374 go outside

Ebro, broaden your gaze - when Yasiin talks about an Empire in decline, he's not talking about hip hop, he’s talking about a global system.

@atarilogic1

4 ай бұрын

Thank u! These fools missing the big picture. It’s about Late Stage Capitalisms decline and music as commodity vs culture.

@manouchkakushka222

4 ай бұрын

They're not invested in having that conversation because they are promote and profit from the system that Yasiin talked about. Not a moral statement, just an observation.

Disruptive is a perfect term to describe what's lacking in Drake's music. Even the white boy is disruptive as fk with "Mush", "white America" etc. but Drake is out here talking about texting young girls at 3am in the morning. Naa...

I never thought I’d live to see the day that underground and old-school hip-hop would be in a conversation on a radio station.✊

Drake is POP. He set out to be POP with the street cred of Hip Hop. He is always trying to be "hard"... stays in the gym, talking about women in derogatory ways but stiil, I look at him and see SOFT. Is anyone asking this of Lil Wayne, 50, Jay-Z... no, because there is no confusion.

@keecast4285

4 ай бұрын

Straight facts 💯

My favorite Mos Def song is Brown Sugar. It was also on the movie called Brown Sugar with Taye Diggs and Sanaa Lathan 🔥🔥

@guldukat871

4 ай бұрын

I liked how he so awkward around Queen Latifah when he wanted to kick it with her..

@guldukat871

4 ай бұрын

favorite Mos song is New World Water.

@MrBluntDaily

4 ай бұрын

I know it's crazy, right? I know it's crazy tight. Don't ever take me light.

@byanymeansnecessary9329

4 ай бұрын

​@@guldukat871the most important Hip-hop song ever made. Fucc a bank, I need a 20 year water tank.

@guldukat871

4 ай бұрын

@DestinyBrazy I agree! Great minds, yo!

You guys having this discussion have proved the point. It's POP music. Nothing wrong with that.

@FERRARIBOIII

4 ай бұрын

🧢

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

@@FERRARIBOIII you know when Yasiin said "banging the pom poms"? that's you right now.

@TyhranG15

4 ай бұрын

Drake is hip hop and pop buts he’s more than just hip hop

@keenynthewise

Ай бұрын

@@FERRARIBOIIIdo you still think he’s hip hop?

@FERRARIBOIII

Ай бұрын

@@keenynthewise drake have done more for hiphop den all these guys i dont understand these arguments gang

Ninjas can't handle the truth. She asked MOs a question, he answered it. That's MOs' opinion. He's not hating 🤷🏾‍♂️!!!!!

Yassin Bey is 100% right about Drake and America,the truth is the truth what you do with it is your choice thank Mr Yassin Bey always a pleasure hearing you.

@Jay-jb2vr

4 ай бұрын

Americans can't handle the truth

*Pop- appeals more to all non black people! Hip Hop- appeals to a diversity of people starting with black people. Rap- appeals to certain black people, and certain others in other ethnicities*

Mos Def didn’t lie Drake is pop and that’s ok.

If drake is hip-hop then he is the billie eillish of hip-hop.

I appreciate this conversation

In response to the caption...No Drake is not hip hop. Hes hip pop.

Drake is pop because he doesn't write his music real emcees would never consider that apart of us all the way 100%

Drake is pop. Real rappers write their own music.

He is definitely POP.

@jordanmcfoy97

4 ай бұрын

He's not. As they said. He's not Pitbull, Flow Rida or Backstreetboys. He makes popular music that's hip hop, r&b, afro beats, dance hall etc. People just know his popular songs that are hip hop radio hits. Most of his underrated songs are hip hop.

Buckshot would say "Commercial rap get the original gunn clap!"

Drake doesn't care about Hip-Hop. Drake is more Puff and Pitbull than Hip-Hop.

@Affect_sd

4 ай бұрын

Scary hours 3 OUT NOW

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

@@Affect_sd pom poms

He just called it what it was, man. The truth shouldn’t be offensive.

Drake is not Hip-Hop and he's not the only one that's not.

I don’t hear anyone mention (apologies if I missed it) the 5th element of Hip Hop; lost but not forgotten. Perhaps it’s time to center the 5th element in these convos given the times we’re living in and talk about its significance to the art and culture, as well as, the origins of Hip Hop and its current sociopolitical and global relevance.

Good conversation

Drake is Rap

Drake is Nickelodeon music.

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

For college kids.

In my mind for the people born before 86, growing up, hip-hop and rap was synonymous. But what we have today is far from the tracks of lyricists lounge and the rap we grew up with. So what we've ended up with is hip-hop being the pop of rap.

He’s never been disruptive Katt Williams “ what do you think a plant is Shannon “

Rollie Pollie mention the word pop when describing Drake, says it all... These radio characters are bought and paid for so of course they are going to be truthful.... Drake is pop..

Cheers 🥂

He isn't one thing. Drake makes a variety of music I would describe as sounding from more than just one genre

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

He’s a wave riding hack.

Hip Hop is Emceeing, Breakdancing, Deejaying and Graffiti. Once hip hop is for commerce then it's Rap. Is Drake rap, of course he is. Not a fan of him music personally though

@dontecooper2531

4 ай бұрын

That emceeing part is the differentiation. Great job my brother!

@christopher399

4 ай бұрын

Would you say Kendrick Lamar is not hip hop then? Because I think, at this point, those things you mentioned aren't as important in hip hop as they once were. Which is fine... Everything evolves and changes.

@silverblackguerrilla4370

4 ай бұрын

@@christopher399 You're not understanding me. Those are the elements of PARTICIPATING in hip hop. All of us are a part of hip hop culture cause it's a way of life. But when Kendrick is making records, that's rap. When he's going through his day to day life he's hip hop all day long. As the rest of us

@christopher399

4 ай бұрын

@@silverblackguerrilla4370 Hip hop is a music genre, and just like all music genres, it is a culture. Anyone who listens to hip hop is a part of that culture. Just like anyone who lives in NYC is a part of the NYC culture.

@silverblackguerrilla4370

4 ай бұрын

@@christopher399 No. Hip Hop is a culture. Rap is a genre. Rap is just music, period. Hip Hop is a way of life

Stop feeling bad for Drake. Being Pop isnt a bad thing. People act like Mos was dissing. But here's the thing...whats more important..... Hip-Hop or the PRESTIGE of Hip-Hop? As an example, Hip-Hop (as a genre) turing 50 is a much bigger thing than Pop (as a genre) turning 60. No matter how much the demand of Hip-Hop has diminished, NO ARTIST out there is trying to bring attention to themselves being a part of the Pop birthday bash.

@EverydayWithBobby

4 ай бұрын

I can’t disagree with anything here.

@bencromwell707

4 ай бұрын

but he's ain't pop tho💯👍

@dn30001

4 ай бұрын

@@bencromwell707 you cant even call Drake a "crossover" artist anymore. Its ok, man. Let him be what he is 😂

@bencromwell707

4 ай бұрын

@@dn30001 the pop world came to him & not the other way around so there's that

@dn30001

4 ай бұрын

@@bencromwell707 and? The pop world came for EVERYONE...including Michael Jackson

Drake being himself is hilarious ...he linked up with jprince and became a tough guy for a minute ,he has a bunch of writers doing reference tracks ,he attaches himself to the hottest sound/style coming. That´s not natural ,that´s what pop artists do i´m not critical ,that´s his lane for him to dominate .Don´t compare him to KRS or Rakim,compare him to Britney and Madonna

@dee27206

4 ай бұрын

If I was a millionaire I wouldn’t give a 💩 was anyone said about me 😂

@arseeoliveira6934

4 ай бұрын

so why don't you just become one?

@ocampbell1954

4 ай бұрын

​@@dee27206so you would sell your soul for money. You can make real music and make money. Kendrick, Cole,etc do.

Drake is not Hip-hop, he's Hip-Pop

7:01 was spot on.....if anyone wants to pursue a music career I think the main outcome is you being the best ever....everywhere regardless of damn genre, I would want my music played in every retail store in the country, every radio station, every grocery store, whatever......just means you doing something right 🤷🏾‍♂️

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

Or you’re very palatable which tends to coincide with acts who don’t have much to say.

No he’s not hip hop

To the younger Generation,Drake is Hip-Hop but to the older generation such as myself,Drake is Pop!!!

Drake don't get credit for biting dancehall and Aftobeats either Ebro.

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

Wave riding hack.

Drake started out hiphop and expanded into the realm of Pop.

@christopher399

4 ай бұрын

He's not the first hip hop artist to do several genres. But for some reason, we like to pretend that his hip hop music isn't hip hop anymore, just because he also makes pop music. Next up! After Tyler The Creator decided to venture into a genre that isn't hip hop, all his hip hop music is now to be considered pop.

@DeuteronomyKnowles

4 ай бұрын

@@christopher399Because you see, even white people have standards for who is or isn’t apart of their respective genres! Tyler, the Creator thought he wasn’t too black, or thought he was better than most black/rap artists and fans that he thought he could escape from hip hop and win non hip hop awards! Look how that turned out? Same thing with Lil Wayne in 2010! However, Drake may be part black, and may have a side/part of his identity that he can run to in order to feel real/authentic as real hip hop artists! But that’s not the same thing as calling yourself hip hop! That’s why us as hip hop fans would rather Drake just go to his white side and say that he’s representing them in his music, like he already does! Because the thing he mainly lacks is social awareness! Something that most hip hop artists need in order to truly be appreciated!

Let’s not act like hip hop wasn’t made from bending and mixing genres. All them classic samples.

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

Ahh but your missing one important thing: Those "Classic Samples" were made popular BY Hip Hop. Prime example: James Brown, Godfather of soul. he was on his way out, his days as being revered as an American icon were almost over, the last memory of him would have been Rocky 4. but then Hip Hop came along, and you get EPMD "Payback" and Total and Biggie's "Can't You See" and Nas' "Get Down" and a whole new generation of people generated a love and respect for James Brown. But before then, aside from Michael Jackson no one was giving James Brown his proper due respect.

@JUKEBOX09

4 ай бұрын

@@bruceleeds7988 na I definitely get that. You clearly missed my point. People call drake pop for the music he makes when niggas been doing the same thing since the beginning.people just don’t like this man lol. People wasn’t saying he wasn’t hip hop till he started doin Michael numbers.

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

@@JUKEBOX09He will never do Michael numbers. Drake will never sniff a diamond album. Drake did for hip hop what Elvis did for R&B.

@JUKEBOX09

4 ай бұрын

@@OfficialTapeMag horrible take. He’s already tied with Michael for the most number one records. What are you talking about? His first album was a number one album. You telling me rookie year drake is comparable to Elvis? Pass whatever you smoking. See yall have a problem with drake as he is NOW! Bc he has reached that star status that’s overshadowed by MJ. But it was his early work, his mixtapes and albums that got him where he is. You really gon say take care wasn’t hip hop? A lot of people first got introduced to Kendrick on that album. Stop the cap. Stop the bias.

Aubrey Is pop. All the Aubrey apologists seem so mad about it though.

I don't have an issue with Drake making his music accessible. My issue is more so the execution of it. Often when I listen to Drake, he’s not saying anything interesting, and it’s not that interesting musically either.

@xr2kid

4 ай бұрын

Yeah it's so boring and so uninspired.

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

He doesn’t have a message because hip hop is born from struggle.

Thanks for talking to me!!!! Xoxo

Drake will never be hip hop. He is pop.

@JUKEBOX09

4 ай бұрын

What? Thank me later, take care, nothing was the same. That’s just a fraction of dude catalog. Not to mention his mixtapes

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

@@JUKEBOX09 that's not an argument fam.

@JUKEBOX09

4 ай бұрын

@@bruceleeds7988 I know it’s not an argument. Bc yall move the goalpost for this man on a daily basis. Yall forget about them 9am and 6 am tracks. If drake not hip hop, then 90 percent of the industry isn’t hip hop. Nobody checking for a nobody and saying “yea that’s hip hop” let’s not act like it wasn’t the thank me later and the if you’re reading this it’s too late, the WATTBA that shot drake to the status he’s at now. Call it what it is. It’s hate bruh. Simple as that.

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@JUKEBOX09That’s assuming hip-hop isn’t more than a sound. Hip-hop has a message. Drake doesn’t have one so he sings about relationships, money and how hard it is to be popular. He’s hip hop like a Soulja Boy is, but he isn’t a Nas, Jay, or Mos.

@JUKEBOX09

4 ай бұрын

@@OfficialTapeMag you just proved you never listed to him. Drakes albums used to be stories. He talked about his transition from being a child actor to being more I. Touch with music. It may not be a message YOU relate to, but his early work definitely had a message.

I heard a Drake song at a day care on a kids bop album

I fucking love that Mos is still somebody to ask. And that's enough.

Drake started his music with hip hop and he has transcended hip hop now. But since he still drops rap music most of the time he's definitely hip hop regardless of his other experimental stuff, the dude dropped a whole project with 21 Savage and even gave us a full 6 track EP with nothing but bars not long ago. Mos Def has deviated from hip hop couple times himself. But since it's Drake doing it all these OGs see that as a problem. I still don't get why these OGs want Hip Hop to remain seen as street music when they all fought so hard for hip hop not to be marginalized and be recognized by the masses, and now that moment has come and they don't want it. The old gangsta/street rap era is obsolete now most of these new artist don't want to be seen as just rappers anymore. Times have changed. And like Method Man said back in the day, hip hop is a lifestyle and not just a musical genre. Drake pretty much looks and lives like a rapper

@kiddatari9334

4 ай бұрын

Valid point

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

Curbing marginalization does not come at the expense of roots. The message is what they wanted to reach the masses, not the pimping out of a sound and swagger for commercial success. Hip Hop does not need to be “Elvised” to be validated.

Let’s not forget, Drake called Yasiin a “Bohemian Bucket” which is a crackhead

First caller summed up Mos Def thesis statement

The first and second caller nailed it. Wow!

Hello everyone Toledo Ohio watching and Drake is the king of Hip Pop music he got that shopping 🛒 cart music.🤣😆🤣😆😆🤣😆

Hip-hop ain't been disruptive since gangsta rap, Drake is just a convenient target. Let's cut the crap.

Rosenberg you said it, he makes super POPular music (i.e. hip pop)...

You can't be hip-hop and openly not write any of your raps. He's an influencer and people get afraid of challenging things because they think they will be shamed for an opinion. Drake's music isn't his music and only pop stars are idolized for music they don't make

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

Fax

@abbanura2428

4 ай бұрын

Who told you he didn’t write any of his raps? Where do y’all get this from?

@LHCLIPSWAGGA

4 ай бұрын

He writes for himself and many others including Kanye West

@christopher399

4 ай бұрын

Is The Chronic not a hip hop album then? Most people consider that album a hip hop classic, so you have a very controversial take here! Dr. Dre didn't write his lyrics, and Snoop Dogg has openly admitted that he doesn't write all his lyrics.

Rosenberg I see that Chuck Brown poster in the back .. Rep that DC area playa

It’s like saying is “Kool Aid” water… it contains it and has it but it ain’t “WATER”

I’m with Ebro. How is Drake any different from Curtis Blow, Slick Rick, Ma$e, early LL Cool J, All Eyes on Me Tupac?

There’s always been an underground element to hip hop, hip hop came from underground. Saying the crabs in barrel thing isn’t a good example. Hip hop has always been about saying something. Drake isn’t a black American. He’s a mixed Jewish kid who was a teen actor. Drake doesn’t scream any element of hip hop to me and I’m not 30 yet.

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

Drake plays hip hop. Fitting for an actor.

Also Yasin said “…TO ME”

Nah Drake sent a subliminal not too long ago when he put out that “ Poetry book” and he had an event for the book. Drake wrote Don’t get no Mos Def girls to read it. “ Mos probably caught wind of that. Mos sent a shot back🤷🏿‍♂️

@nonealike

4 ай бұрын

Oh yea? Damn, had no idea about that.

@Cameo131

4 ай бұрын

The bloggers don't remember that

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

I just watched a review of the book. DO NOT BUY IT!!!

I still haven’t found a reason to listen to Drake, nobody has ever recommended to me a Drake record as a must listen to, I’ve heard bits and pieces of Drake at parties or in a bar but nothing that made me want to Shazam his music, it’s probably a generational thing, but like Common said if I don’t like it I don’t like it don’t mean that I’m hatin.

Hip-hop has long been characterized by its diverse range of artistic expressions, with individuals adopting various approaches to the music. Some delve into the realm of drugs, others into the world of parties, and some even explore the realm of education. However, Drake has managed to ascertain what resonates best with his unique style and target audience. On the other hand, Mos Def, an underground rapper, remains hopeful for a breakthrough in the commercial scene.

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

And they all have a message of a struggle that seeks to uplift and/or relate in the midst of a struggle. The more Drake raps the more apparent it becomes that he is an exploitative artist devoid of any real depth or meaning that uses rap to benefit his own personal interests. Mos Def has the respect Drake can only dream of. Target has no influence on the pantheon of hip hop.

No 👎🏾

@hotboy80baby18

4 ай бұрын

Not with painted nails 💅

If my music was playing in target…. Say what you will but that’s a flex low key and I’ll be on live walking through target singing along to my own songs 😂😂😂😂

Been telling my homies this for years

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

Then they have a great friend.

Hammer was a Hip-Hop Artist he was just funky and he danced. Thats it!!! Turn this Mutha Out was a Hip-Hop song. When you think of KOOL MOE DEE "I Go To Work" you can easily see they're basically the same thing.

is this really a 20 min convo dog lol i hope they get into more than this title lmao

@tre1geo

4 ай бұрын

hip hop at it's nature is anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist. it bucks the system. so then for hip hop to morph from culture to industry goes against it's nature. so what is hip-hop nowadays??? drake has mastered the industry. I don't think he'd be offended by this at all. idk...

Difference between Hip-Hop culture & Rap music

Hip hop is Black Americas gift to the world.

What's going on? Are you all still in quarantine in the new year?😢

There’s no message in the music anymore, nobody outside a few are saying anything. Where’s the artists that actually have a message without just trying to be shocking or stand out.

A crossover artist that targets crossing over has to be popular music oriented not hard to see . Underground is for people who are into the art. Hip hop been gone for decades jack harlowe would not exist if not for huge artists like drake

If you don’t move when the time moves you get left behind. Drake is definitely hip hop just like Mos is hip hop. Don’t act like hip hop means one thing or style. I remember when the south got disrespected like this but say something about OutKast or Luke Skywalker. I dare you.

Drake ain't Hip-Hop. There's nothing wrong with making this statement. Hip-Hop needs to start being a bit more exclusionary to protect the art rather than being afraid to be labeled "A Hater". Everything can't be considered Jazz, Classical music or otherwise, so why should everything that borrows themes from the genre be considered Hip-Hop? There HAS TO be a minimum requirement.

Hip Hop is bigger than Pop.

💛☠️Must be said × Mos Def Enate

Literally living out the Brown Sugar premise.

Drake's last 2 solo albums were Pop asf. Scary hours is Hip-Hop.

@matthewparker9802

4 ай бұрын

Her loss is hip hop

@yourfavoritecommentary5028

4 ай бұрын

@@matthewparker9802 Learn how to read. I said solo.

@PhatDimes

4 ай бұрын

@yourfavoritecommentary5028 Sooooooo, he's VERSATILE. Eating meat one day and veggies the next doesnt make you a vegan - ass. 🤡🤡🤡

@matthewparker9802

4 ай бұрын

@@yourfavoritecommentary5028 I'm sorry I can u explain how are they are pop

Pop in hiphop

maestro fresh wes has entered the chat

The funny thing about pop music is that it's not really a genre like rnb or rock is. Pop music is popular music. So any genre can be pop. Pop, in fact tends to take elements of other genres (the most popular elements) and create something new.... In fact being that hip hop music is one of the most popular genres in the world the argument can be made that hip hop music is pop music 😮🤷🏿‍♂️

@bruceleeds7988

4 ай бұрын

rap music is pop music

When it hit a point in time when Mos Def opinion is not taken seriously, thats when you know we are in trouble.

Thought his name was Yasiin Bey?

No ,

You can’t be hip hop with ghost writers

Mos is one of my all-time favorites, but Drake is definitely hip-hop. I grew up in BK in the 80/90s, I'm admittedly a snob about hip-hop, so any songs that Drake sings on, I don't listen to, and my Drake playlist still has like 90 joints of him going in.

@OfficialTapeMag

4 ай бұрын

And what is he saying?

@dloganthegr8

4 ай бұрын

@@OfficialTapeMag subject matter is not a criteria for an artist to be defined as Hip-Hop. If Mos Def’s content and subject matter was the barometer for what defines hip-hop, most rappers would not be considered hip-hop. Drakes word play, lyricism, beats, braggadocio, and his content do make him hip-hop. Is he saying something to elevate the genre and his community, no, but that is not a disqualifier, obviously.

Just think all his songs that play on the radio

Pop stars use ghost writers, not all plants need roots.. just saying

@TheTryhardBeast12

4 ай бұрын

So Kanye is a pop star too?

@DJ_Shenanigan00

4 ай бұрын

@@TheTryhardBeast12 yep

@warnerjones9932

4 ай бұрын

​@@TheTryhardBeast12yupppp

@wonderful49

4 ай бұрын

He also writes for other rappers..