Thanks guys for covering our journey. Anytime you wanna come hangout at The Block our door is open. Our last building was $13,000 a month. For the record we do not live here 😅 We have stayed at Avenue of the arts hotel for almost 5 years now. We are just car guys wanting to have fun and make epic content. Come on out! Sincerely - Damon

@nickerbocker759

5 ай бұрын

Bro you are killing it. Keep doing what you’re doing 🤙

@zacharyfaber

5 ай бұрын

Y’all are killing it! ❤

@Bryun

5 ай бұрын

@PKSWORLD22

5 ай бұрын

Killing it is all that can be said the content that you guys are already bringing from this building is insane with the growth of the team and the purchase of this building its just the beginning of this chapter cant wait to see what you guys bring in 2024 and hopefully come out to meet you guys when you get the retail side of the block up and running keep on grinding we are here for the ride

@GodsendYT

5 ай бұрын

It would be pretty awesome to see more and more YT channels and personalities visiting The Block and all the guys, girls, and cars there! Excited to see more from you @DailyDrivenExotics

DDE just makes sense in that building, it was faith with them having to leave their old place. Can't wait for them to complete moving in and organizing events at The Block. And it's not just DDE, it's also Michael Essa closing his shop and moving in with DDE fully committing to the collaboration, I'm stoked to see it, love Mike, Tim and Sean.

@leequesada439

5 ай бұрын

Fate?? Not faith?

@chrispatten943

5 ай бұрын

THIS!!!!

@traggerhippie

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, English is not my first language.@@leequesada439

@zTimmyz0244

5 ай бұрын

same Mike makes DDE look awesome

@guytait

5 ай бұрын

My attraction to these automotive videos is their family values. Matt Armstrong is so much more because of his dad who helps him build his dreams

Ever since Mike, Tim and Sean became part of DDE I haven't missed a single video. They truly are the missing piece of the puzzle in making the juggernaut that what DDE is turning out to be. I'm super excited to see what they bring moving forward.

@JMcKee253

5 ай бұрын

Fucking love tim

@oramirez7725

5 ай бұрын

Same here ! Every morning before work I watch the video

@JRock3091

5 ай бұрын

Those three have brought such a fun and knowledgeable side to the DDE content portfolio.

@aux619

5 ай бұрын

Tim is the best

@goonshow3423

5 ай бұрын

And Mark he is awesome

DDE will bring sick content from that building

@shelbypetch

5 ай бұрын

They already are

@petejr7774

5 ай бұрын

You mis spelled already are bringing lol

@Wayne_Nero

5 ай бұрын

Its the greatest move in car YT history. DDE has stepped up their game since they moved into that building.

@64onyx

5 ай бұрын

​@@petejr7774you are not invited to my birthday party, buzzkill

@GodsendYT

5 ай бұрын

I’m excited guys DDE is already doing great

Been a DDE subscriber since 2018! This is a huge milestone for them!✅💪🏾

@keithhastings7976

5 ай бұрын

Agreed !

@Milldog2023

5 ай бұрын

since he was at 30k sub's . Haven't missed a vlog.

@huzygaming7216

5 ай бұрын

​​​@@Milldog2023Prob not 30k here but I still remember when he only had the scud in that old "garage" with the old business partner and his bike. Been a while. If I guess it was around vlog 005 or right after I started watching... So 2017 or so. DDE has had an insane growth.

@patrickjp5727

5 ай бұрын

me since 2017 lets goo!

@andymudhoney

4 ай бұрын

@@Milldog2023almost 4m now …

DDE will do Hoonigan proud! What a beautiful tribute to Ken Block! Welcome to the Block!

@leequesada439

5 ай бұрын

Definitely better than Wheel Pros Hoonigan.. They're QUICKLY declining...

@Milldog2023

5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the hoonigan lads end up at #DDE @@leequesada439

@theranter

5 ай бұрын

@@leequesada439 …who? 😆

I agree 100% Damon and Dave are killing it and they deserve all the success they get, and Essa is an amazing wealth of knowledge but one of the unsung heros at DDE is that kid Mark ever since he got there 2ish years ago DDE has been producing daily videos somehow I think that kid does way more than we think behind the scenes

@Carbonated_13

5 ай бұрын

Is this Mark? ysob😂

@spoolin55psi

5 ай бұрын

@@Carbonated_13lmao 😂 it is a mark move

@eugenewoo8352

5 ай бұрын

@@Carbonated_13 I wish I was 6'6 like him🤣😆

@brunofalcon4645

5 ай бұрын

I agree with you sir, I noticed Mike and Tim seemed to not like being on camera at the beginning they were awkward, I think Mark brought them out their shells

@garfmedia

5 ай бұрын

Jokes aside😂, Mark does do a lot from what ive seen from the stories channel Damon and dave can enjoy more time at home now And he shoots, edits and produces for the main and stories channel sometimes

Michael Essa hiring Damon and Dave and then getting the old Hoonigan building is awesome. 😅 DDE is giving off fantastic vibes right now.

@fxrsniper1

5 ай бұрын

Huh? Mike Essa Didn't hire DDE

@kellywandile300

5 ай бұрын

DDE hired Michael Essa, get it right 😅

@NovaRedHead

5 ай бұрын

It was a running joke a few months ago on both channels. Just before Damon took a little vacations before the holidays.

@fxrsniper1

5 ай бұрын

@@NovaRedHead should have put quotations around that part then I would have understood what you were meaning

@novavides

5 ай бұрын

And that is how you know half of you don't even know about DDE or the running jokes...you all stay with the trend and comenting on news you don't even have any clue.... FML .... good one @novaredhead

DDE is NOT Hoonigan. DDE is inspired by Hoonigan, specifically Ken Block and the crazy builds he used to swing around closed cities. That's the inspiration Damon has for DDE. Almost as if DDE is the rebel child of Hoonigan in a way, indirectly. Can't compare the two, but they are some of the most entertaining car channels out there. I've been a DDE fan since Damon had 50k followers. Saw their growth all the way. All their peaks and valleys. This trajectory they're on is incredible. So much room for growth now with the new HQ.

@novavides

5 ай бұрын

same here ..we were just 30k followers and now .... almost 4mill nice to know if you going down the street and someone sees your hoodie...they know what it stands for

I think @DailyDrivenExotics is currently one of the best automotive channel out there!! with the kind of the cars they have and the builds they are doing and also the ideas of future projects its just crazy how far the boys have come!! I think from now on DDE will be just going up with the Gumball plans and all the relationship they have build with other fellow influencers .DDE will sure bring crazy content from that building. With the addition of Mike, Tim, Sean and Mark its just going to get even more crazier. I am currently addicted to their channel and love what they are doing .Love the boys hope they get more success these coming years!!!

@westcoastturbos

5 ай бұрын

Been unique for years. rest are still doing white wheels and wraps

Mad respect to Damon and Dave, it is a big step-up. It almost seemed like they were starting to grow the team, not much different from Hooigan or Donut where there are different "characters" that can be doing videos. Mike is an amazing addition to the team and I am excited to see what the future of the channel becomes. Damon dreamt of Hooning supercars after watching Ken, and they are building some crazy cars to do it in, so I hope they can live up to the amazing production Ken had with his videos. RIP Ken.

DDE is next level now.

I like the fact that you guys are talking about the DDE move and how positive it is. As a DDE fan, I was worried people who didn't "know" Damon and Dave would think they were riding on the back of Hooigan leaving. Great conversation boys.

@CastleNightTCG

5 ай бұрын

I agree 💯! If you know them, you know it's going to be all DDE doing what they do! So pumped for them.

DDE is the future. He's got the RIGHT crew now and the perfect building. Sponsors are coming and it's about to get WILD

@grooveguy

5 ай бұрын

Oh HELL YEAH BABY!!! AS THEY SAY THE BEST IS YET TO COME!!!👍😎💯🇨🇦♥️🇺🇸🎉

DDE IS FOREVER Just spending time with the Fam🤙

DDE will carry on with Ken's memories. In my opinion. DDE is the best to lease that place and keep Ken alive in spirit. Damon is going to kill the internet with views now. The other car channels are like DUCKIES. Super happy for DDE and keeping hoonigan going.

@dannietucker7187

5 ай бұрын

Cleetus is a duckie?

@Thadthedad

5 ай бұрын

@@dannietucker7187bro Cleetus is what Damon dreams to be but never will cleetus is just that guy love both their videos but cleet is just in a different category

@Scientology_Is_Scum

5 ай бұрын

@@dannietucker7187 Dude Cleetus, Whistlindiesel etc are excellent in their own way as they do completely different content. In the supercar segment DDE is and always will be the best.

Pretty sure the collaboration between Michael Essa and DDE is the only way this was possible. Any way you cut it best collaboration DDE has done was bringing Mike on board. Great team. 👍

@petejr7774

5 ай бұрын

It's weird because I was upset when they moved on from team karnage...but I couldn't imagine this journey without Mike Essa...he is the best!

@brad741

5 ай бұрын

I agree, without a full time team to build the cars, DDE wouldn't be able to take on as much as they have. The building is their content so it pays itself to have a team

@theranter

5 ай бұрын

@@petejr7774 Fuck Team Karnage. I guess you haven’t figured out that Dean Karnage and HyperNFT used DDE to get Dean popular on KZread and sell crypto before they ditched DDE, launched Dean’s channel, and then HyperNFT bought a huge collection of Hypercars for Dean to use on his channel. They used DDE.

@PowerstrokeSynd

5 ай бұрын

Mike Essa is the truth. Buddy is no joke when it comes to automobile fab, especially Supercars.

@W0rp3D

5 ай бұрын

​@PowerstrokeSynd Mike is the only reason I watch dde, not interested in dde's clickbait bs, would be good if Mike had his own channel for all the project work he does that's the only dde content I watch

Damon is a marketing genius. He fully understands what people want by listening to them. Dave is really business savvy. Damon knew driving video's can only get you so far. Also burying old beefs was a strong move. Watching and learning from the Gumball Rallies doing worldwide events brought new people. Getting the Block was a brilliant idea and perfect timing. We will see less n less of Damon and dave but the channel won't skip a beat because it will always feel like those two are always there.

@Zigz15

5 ай бұрын

I could watch Mark, Mike, Tim and Sean shenanigans for hours. All 4 are amazing additions to the crew

Been watching DDE since Dave came on the channel .. there is NO ONE more suited to take over the Hoonigan burn yard than them. The content since they've taken it over has been absolutely epic. Great topic of discussion guys.

@krazykp1

5 ай бұрын

I think my first DDE video was when Dave got his Lamborghini rear ended on the freeway. Crazy how far they have come.

DDE is on top right now, I’m literally waiting each day for an upload from them, no one really does it like them tbh. Who else goes crazy like them with their super/hyper cars ??

@KontenderTV

5 ай бұрын

Nobody drives their cars! Strad barely uploads, Shmee drives his cars 5mph under the speed limit once a month, not too interested in tj hunt rn... Idk DDE is definitely on top

@souravmukherjee7216

5 ай бұрын

@@KontenderTV BALDMAN's content is absolute 🤮🤮💩💩 and he barely uploads bcoz he is a lazy as*

DDE is a force to be reckoned with. And it’ll be. Good to see them grow.

So pumped for DDE! They are definitely taking it to the next level...and how much Damon loves and adores Ken...its like ment to be!

If DDE renovate the space correctly and utilise the space with a destination merch store,event space etc. this move can take them to the next level. Also on the point about Damon and Dave being on the channel, this move will in time bring more employees etc , more content. I think eventually you could have a dedicated SHOP channel. Mike, sean and Tim have already shown they can carry the channel with the same view numbers for mikes build series. Mike joining DDE was ready the turning point. They had the vision a long time ago with bringing dean and race team into the mix but it couldn’t work out as the race team is a full time commitment in itself. Mike is an incredible driver and mechanic so he c an teach and do the racing part and build and fab crazy cars! His version of the Ferrari is gonna blow the Aronn version out the water.

@tomektomek9836

5 ай бұрын

Imagine DDE x GINTANI turbo kits or exhaust systems, ESSA branded merch and so much more

@Jonny_b_live

5 ай бұрын

@@tomektomek9836 all of these should happen!

DDE crew right now is 🔥

Love the BLOCK reference! Ken as everything to Damon!

Tim Mark, Mike and sean are already great characters in the channel

DDE stands on its own.. I'm excited for the sic content they're gonna bring us..

DDE is the perfect ones to step in and keep the dream alive! Id love to see some of the Hoonigan crew over at DDE. DDE is amazing and really paying homage and doing it their own way!

I'm thankful for the crew of DDE

DDE is a cash flow business. Equity is low, but revenue and expenses are high. They are grinding hard, but they need to acquire some assets though to sell off so they don’t have to post every day. Stradman as an accountant knows he needs to build equity as you never know…

@tomektomek9836

5 ай бұрын

That’s a good take, although I think they relatively have some good assets (at least Damon) he said he had 1M to spend, and he still leased the senna, evo2 is frozen cash and some other cars I think too, but yeah overally they have a lot of current liabilities to pay up

@ddominique__730

5 ай бұрын

Then it’s not DDE???? Surely you know that stands for DAILY Driven Exotics. I would not want to be a Stradman when there’s DDE

@littleroller

5 ай бұрын

@@ddominique__730 your right. There is only one DDE and I enjoy my daily dose! It is awesome they exist!

@fatty2408

5 ай бұрын

I think that is the reason people like watching them. A new video every day is what makes me want to watch becuase their videos almost never miss so taking the stradman approach would not fit their style of videos but i understand what you mean

@Farmkid02

5 ай бұрын

@@fatty2408DDE treats each video as a new episode the to be continued type videos definitely help the consistent views

You guys killed it on here! I’ve been starting to recognize a lot of weird, interesting things all over KZread

I gotta say I have been watching DDE since 2017, and their content has just gotten better and better, especially in the last 2-3 years. In my opinion they are the best automotive content creator there is

Dude honestly if they are living there that’s super smart. Damon mentioned they travel back and forth from Canada every other week and stay in hotels. Why not stay there while in town, save money, and shit you’re already there. Wake up and boom hit a burnout make content and money lol Damon definitely has all the respect for Ken his family and the og Hoonigan’s, he’s gonna do it right at The Block. It reminds me of Cleetus buying Desoto and turning it into the freedom factory, taking over a space with precious history, paying respect to that and continuing to let the legacy live on with fun new content and hooning

@djk91lx28

5 ай бұрын

Very true but the hotel stays are also a write off as a business expense given the tax laws

@bneexotics2120

5 ай бұрын

Imagine a Cleetus/DDE collaboration burnout comp 👊😎 would break the internet!

@PooterBigums

5 ай бұрын

@@djk91lx28 True, I’m sure they write off everything as a business expense, but that’s just a saving grace. If they don’t have to spend money from the company then one less thing to have to deal with ya know?

@PooterBigums

5 ай бұрын

@@bneexotics2120 Dude yes! I have no idea why they haven’t done anything together yet! Probably bc their car lifestyle are completely different 🤣 but yeah either everyone meeting up at the Freedom Factory or at The Block and just sending it shredding tires

Is great that DDE will this big step star brings almost all KZreadrs together 👍👍👍👍

DDE is taking the next of growth. We understood KZread creators have to hype up situations for the storyline. Their whole team grinds nonstop behind the scenes.

Essa is moving his shop to the Block. I think DDE could start making people as customers by customizing customer vehicles. You hire a graphic artist and a wrap team, you can start having fans bring their cars in to get customized, maybe even have Essa work on their vehicle.

@Bobwa2008

5 ай бұрын

I don’t see them doing any cars other than their own.

@bneexotics2120

5 ай бұрын

​@@Bobwa2008yeah man agree, Mike and boys have their hands full keeping the DDE fleet on the street 😂

@ImKairyu

5 ай бұрын

They might only do this is the build itself is interesting enough that they could make a video series on it

@michaelkaudze1883

5 ай бұрын

@@Bobwa2008 you say that now though. What if they didnt need PFS. It makes sense to do it all in-house since PFS is always busy and they call in "Favors" repeatedly, also it would allow livery changes pretty quickly. To keep that person busy full-time you could take on friends' wraps, and it's only a matter of time before you start taking customer cars. That's an easy way to expand the business imo.

I was skeptic at first of your new podcast, but I'm loving it. Please keep doing this!

Ive been a DDE subscriber for 8 years now and what's happening now is the most exciting thing. That channel is just getting better and better by the vlog

Bang on. Mike and The Block are worth 10 Bugatti’s. DDE are levels ahead.

DDE is absolutely killing it right now and there is no ego with Mike they actually joke around and say that he's their new boss. I really do think that they are going to do great things I mean they are kind of like hoonigan in a lot of ways but they do it with supercars. They truly were some of the first to actually do that type of shit with supercars.

James doesn't do anything unique to follow along to for a daily upload cadence. Wrap, exhaust, wheels, and sell 2 months later, car deliveries for cars he doesn't own, I'm going broke videos, endless I can't afford my Bugatti videos and proceeds to lease a Koenigsegg. Its boring content. What DDE is doing is engaging to say the least and makes it entertaining to follow along to daily.

@eugenewoo8352

5 ай бұрын

so true, how many videos can that guy do with " guess what was delivered to my house" plus James is creepy he gives off caffeined up kids tv show host vibes and dating a girl thats just out of high school is beyond creepy

@souravmukherjee7216

5 ай бұрын

BALDMAN content has become boring🤮🤮 PIZZA TYCOON my *s*😂🤣🤣 DAILY DRIVEN EXOTICS is thousand times better👍👍

@westcoastturbos

5 ай бұрын

DDE makes stradz look like a driveway queen

@infinitiamg1860

5 ай бұрын

I stopped watching James honestly because of his videos about being broke then buys another then repeats the same process. Don't get me wrong I like James but yeah his video were the same

@bneexotics2120

5 ай бұрын

Cut James some slack guys, he's a one man operation and has paid his dues in spades. Sure his videos might not be as fast pasted as DDE but you have to respect his grind and what he has accomplished.

DDE now the last year has been tops for me as a mechanical engineer and with ESSA and the team coming to the channel it's getting better by the day . I can't wait to see what they will do

I say you guys bring DDE to do an interview ❤😂 that will be dope

Been following DDE since 2015, amazing to see the growth and development of the channel. Keep it going guys 🔥🔥💯

The photographer and videographer in me wants to correct that we see your light in your window! I've thought this more than once. On the topic, DDE made a incredible decision and I am loving EVERY video they do now.

I love DDE I'm one of their biggest and longest watching fans and I can't wait to see what they do with the new headquarters

Damon and Dave have created pure magic. And Mike Essa along with Tim make that magic pop. DDE For Life.

This was a recommend video of a dde video…. I’ve followed them for a long time and Ken is the whole inspiration behind dde and the channel but with the hype of it being an expensive super car ripping it ….. it’s a massive investment and such a smart place for them to keep Ken’s legend alive as a homage to the great tyre slayer Ken block

have a lot of respect for DDE. hats off to them for what they have achieved. my fav yt channel.

Just gotta say boys, absolutely loving this new content you guys are putting out as a group! Keep up the good work!

Its pretty sweet so see this kind of content continue, Its tough sometimes when there is a shift and there isn't another group to capture the vibe and keep it going In this case DDE has been doing a great job of keeping that feeling alive and making the viewer feel a part of that transition.

I watch both DDE and TJ on a daily basis. What they do is my dream as in my spare time I look for cars online and do dream buildouts on them on my computer. I’ve literally modified ever car I’ve ever owned and I’m almost 38 but unfortunately I was injured in an accident thanksgiving ‘22 and can’t work on cars anymore. Glad I was able to do all the work I’ve done to all my vehicles but especially having had the most modified and custom 1 off parts for my jeep (15k just in mods) a few years back. I’ll always have a passion for cars.

Love the podcast and your take on DDE making moves to the new HQ! Pumped to see where DDE goes from here!🥳 Keep crushing the content guys!👏🏻

You guys are awesome. Love the video and love how you are giving awesome respect to the DDE group that is amazing. Also love that they have taken over the Hoonigan building and love also how they have called the back area the "Block"!!!

Luke is the heart of this video, first time on the channel and I like how Luke is keeping the conversation alive better than the rest

I think Hoonigan is going the similar way of the DC brand. It used to be a cool smaller hip specialty brand....but then it got too big and you started seeing it in places like costco and Walmart and then eventually fizzled away.

I love that the moves DDE are making got people talking about them. Them getting this place is honestly a fitting place for the passion they have. Like they're not caged anymore.

What DDE is doing is awesome. their vidoes were good but they just got like 10x more interesting. Love those guys

Mike essa took the channel over the top. Amazing guy

This is a great podcast guys. Really dig your insight into whats going on behind the KZread scenes!

DDE has been my main goto channel for years now. Im super stoked with the direction the company is going and the growth with the guys. Its really cool to see.

Would love to see your take on Cleetus McFarland. From the beginning to now . His circle has gotten so big .

You guys nailed it! If there's one team best fit to take over the Hooningan HQ it would be DDE !!

UTAH BOiiiiiiiiS !!!Great content guys and this colab on the mic!! DDE is better than most programs on TV honestly

Loving the new DDE HQ, Hopefully they can get it built up quickly enough so we can see there vision of what they have planned. With the big builds they are planning on doing they are ordering parts now, so when they are ready to start the builds they have the parts ready, as thats what has slowed down the F12 build is waiting on custom parts.

Their slogan should be “life is too short to drive reliable cars” 🤣

DDE Everyday Crazy Baby!!!!

Lovin the podcast's boys keep this going.

I think dde is gonna have some amazing content coming out of the new shop... Good podcast I just subbed

New channel. Hooray! Thank you algorithm.

Big respect showing love to the DDE Crew 👊😎 who know the boys might build a studio at The Block and you guys can drop in for a pod one day 👍

I’ve watched DDE from day one. Along with hoonigan , and now it’s like both in one. Super epic. 👊🏻🤘🏻

The Hoonigan guys are the ones that told them about the building and have even showed up in the new dde videos

Y’all need longer videos y’all are great at this!

Hell stoked for DDE and the new content has been mint

The best thing ever was parting ways with that other FD drifter, you can tell those dudes got tired of the energy Damon and Dave brought, and bringing Mike Essa along.

@bneexotics2120

5 ай бұрын

Yeah those guys were cringe. You see them driving that HyperNFT guys cars around like a Dollar Tree DDE ... It's embarrassing

really just straight to the facts. positive and negative about DDE. thanks for featuring DDE. subscribed.

It's dope how they've Damon and Dave found balance over the last year, solid team fulfills the dream..

Most people hate.. thank you for being great people

Love DDE, best channel on KZread.

Dude I didn't know you guys had a channel now... F'en awesome..

I think yall are right. DDE has taken the baton from hoonigan and they're now the channel I watch for car hooning fun. I still enjoy hoonigan videos but the excitement from the daily transmission and build breakdown days are gone. DDE now has that excitement for me.

❤DDEFAM❤ Great Video Guys ! I think this DDE expansion / THE BLOCK - will grow , just like when Cleetus McFarlan built the Freedom Factory Cheers From Toronto

the block family are now doing their own stuff BLOCK HOUSE RACING it's good to see them racing together and keeping the legacy alive i can see scotto hert vin and the guys that left doing something together cheers from down under

I am waiting for DDE notification every day, their videos are addictive

Lovin it guys

Wheel Pros owns the building it used to be one of their production shops, that how the Hoonigan relationship happened initially. The DDE schedule is two weeks on two off, Dave and Damon alternate if possible.

Mad respect for the team of DDE..

I'm excited for DDE!

DDE will carry the hoonigan culture alive even if it’s in supercars 😂❤

I love Luke’s new haircut and glasses look very Clark Kent style. 🅰️

I was in LA for work. Decided to stop by Hoonigan. Saw the Just Aint Care was gone and kept driving =\

mike essa is the single greatest addition to the channel next to dave!

Great to see a video where DDE isn’t getting burned at the stake but getting recognized for what they’re trying to create. Well done crew

#ddefam im a big fan of dde follow them for so long the time when he got the tire Slayer for the first time i subbed never missed one video .. the video where he got the red Lambo from the dealer they are the best at this moment, every day i can't wait till i get a msg they uploaded a video i go on youtube..

ya Damon seems like a class act for the most part. dave on the other hand seems to be kind of immature and insecure at times. i def find my self skipping a lot less in the vids when damon is more shown. Dave can be somewhat irritating when he treats people with disrespect.

Mike ESSA IS THE MAN! Can’t forget about Tim and Sean that’s Mike Essas team! All of 3 have been great additions to DDE’s channel

@oramirez7725

5 ай бұрын

Mark, too, has been putting a lot of work behind the camera and editing.

I don't love DDE, but this makes a lot of sense for them especially since Hoonigan isn't going to be the same anymore.

Great move for their content. Need the space for the sends

When and if Damon and Dave leave has been something on my mind because they obviously can’t keep doing it their whole life but they can still be apart of it. But who knows maybe they will keep doing what they do best and keep grinding till they can’t physically do it anymore.