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@MasamuneNoirFilms

Жыл бұрын

You left out Raypunk

@krioni86sa

Жыл бұрын

Cyberpunk is actually Funk. Not Punk.

@NeostormXLMAX

Жыл бұрын

Glad you mentioned the other punks other than the overrated steam and cyberpunk

@NeostormXLMAX

Жыл бұрын

@@MasamuneNoirFilmsraypunk gothic or atom punk is probably the official name etc, Theres also biopunk but both of them are very rare so i can understand it not being used, (Im glad he included solar punk since solarpunk is actually much more popular than people think btw, for starters every pokemon game and ghibli film is solarpunk, solarpunk is a utopic version of cyberpunk with hyper advanced tech but perfectly blended with the environment, and technology not destroying tradition or nature instead living intandem, technically monster hunter and xenoblade are solarpunk as well)

@boxfoxscoot1614

Жыл бұрын

at this point punk is less of a actual descriptor and more of a cultural signifier saying "HEY! this is what our idea is"

“A guy walks up to me and ask “what’s punk?” So I kicked over a garbage can and said “that’s punk!” So he kicks over a garbage can and says, “that’s punk?” And I say, “No that’s trendy!”--Billie Joe Armstrong

@eminentbishop1325

Жыл бұрын

Damn. True

@Glaaki13

Жыл бұрын

😆

@cocobunitacobuni8738

Жыл бұрын

hear hear

@cybersearcher1041

Жыл бұрын

Man could’ve thanked him with a kiss on the mouth smh missed the opportunity

@cybersearcher1041

Жыл бұрын

Man could’ve thanked him with a kiss on the mouth smh missed the opportunity

Is there a term for the phenomenon of adding "punk" as the suffix of a genre? I'd call it "Punktuation".

@MegaPokefan97

Жыл бұрын

+2

@cursedjade9585

Жыл бұрын

YOUUUU!

@itisALWAYSR.A.

Жыл бұрын

Punkpunk Also, side note: boooo-urns

@wmdkitty

Жыл бұрын

I hate it and love it at the same time. Well done!

@omegalettexyphonophore3111

Жыл бұрын

That’s genius sir! I’d say your comment was so punktual.

Not quite related, but I am baffled at the lack of trains in steampunk. It's always airships, boats, or automobiles. Seriously, where are the trains? Am I missing something? In case it is not obvious, I like trains and would likely enjoy a steampunk novel with a focus on railroading and have one or several of the main characters be an engineer or something adjacent to that. Or just have railroads be integral to the worldbuilding.

@struckrex

Жыл бұрын

Steampunk does usually lack steam trains ngl

@MaryDunford

Жыл бұрын

And (in fiction or reality) trains are just cool. 😎

@calladricosplays

Жыл бұрын

A lot of steampunk fits with old western, and the latter should be filled with train robbers lol

@TF2CrunchyFrog

Жыл бұрын

Because airships/spaceships, boats, or automobiles can go to all sorts of places, while a train just goes from A to B to C. Vehicles are usually either just a method to get the protagonists where they need to go (from the starting place to a more interesting place) or as a backdrop (Murder on the Orient Express, Titanic). The train itself may make for an exotic location if it's famous (the Orient Express), but beyond that, the average train is honestly not that interesting as a center of a story unless you're a railroad engineer. There are a few video games that may have what you are looking for: 1. VoidTrain. 2. The Final Station There was also a very niche, hardly known pen-n-paper RPG called AMTRAK years ago, I played it once at a convention back in the 1990s or early 2000s. It was about a giant AMTRAK train constantly traveling through a post-apocalyptic dystopian former USA, a world where the few survivors lived their entire lives on the few remaining trains that traveled along the remaining railways, stopping from time to time to loot for supplies, and trying to stay ahead of train robbers or mutated monsters. "Engineer" was one of the common character classes there, as a breakdown of the train would mean death.

@TheSmokingMustache

Жыл бұрын

Check out Boneshaker and its sequels by Cherie Priest, one of the best steampunk genre series out there, I think its the second or third book have a ton of train stuff.

I like that there's been a new suffix that can describe the aesthetic without the narrative themes, and that's core. If something is cyber without the punk aspects, it's Cybercore. Cottagecore, Steamcore, etc. If there's no elements of punk it shouldn't be called punk. It's perfectly okay to just have the aesthetics of the setting, hoping calling things core outside of just Cottagecore keeps catching on.

@Glaaki13

Жыл бұрын

Yes core have also been over used (in music anyways )

@crystallinecrisis3901

Жыл бұрын

I like the rise of the -core suffix because it’s a great way to explain the vibe of something even if it doesn’t exactly match a genre. Cottagecore can range from homesteading to forest witch but the feeling is the same

@SentinelZed

Жыл бұрын

Steamcore, you say? *has flashbacks to Frostpunk*

@ShinoSarna

Жыл бұрын

Ironically enough, both 'punk' and 'core' have their origins in punk subculture and music.

@KryyssTV

Жыл бұрын

Core is definitely a useful descriptor as long as its taking the -punk methodology of exploring a single factor and taking it to the exteeme. Else it just becomes sci-fi.

Thanks. I think part of what happened is that once cyberpunk became well-known as a genre, people began to read 'punk' as 'aesthetic' instead of 'attitude'. This now seems to be the common understanding within media, thus becoming easily transferable to other sub-genres. tavi.

@mccperin

Жыл бұрын

what is interesting is that cyberpunk itself underwent said devaluation. no longer does the genre have any bite, only aesthetic

@Sumguysazz

Жыл бұрын

But at least it originally had that “punk” attitude. Everything else on the list is purely aesthetic. OPs comment makes inherently more sense than the video

@mattrobson3603

Жыл бұрын

'Cyberpunk' as a term came from a specific time and place. Part of what made it distinctive was its aesthetic, as well as its themes. And then with 'steampunk', the notion of 'futurism with X aesthetic' took hold and we got our various Diesels and Decos and Atoms and so on. I'd say almost every -punk apart from Cyber is strictly aesthetic, since they all evolved in a cultural setting where 'punk' wasn't really a cultural force. To the point where the suffix has lost almost all meaning. 'Splatterpunk' means what, just gory horror? Were there not gory works of horror before people starting saying 'splatterpunk'? (I'm legitimately asking, I don't really read/watch horror. But the fact that it sounds like it's basically just 'amp up the gore' instead of 'engage with similar themes of authority, conformity, alienation and power disparities as cyberpunk' makes me think that it's just another aesthetic.) 'Solarpunk' is punk because it dares to show a brighter future...in contrast with cyberpunk...which differentiated itself from the scifi of its time that usually showed brighter futures. So is 'solarpunk' coming full circle? Are all those golden-age SF works that showed shiny progress now classed as Solarpunk? Star Trek TOS the biggest nucleation point for Solarpunk before Solarpunk was a thing? And that's not even getting into the fact that, again, cyberpunk (originator of the -punk suffix) was a product of its time. In the decades since, certain elements still resonate but others do not. Post-cyberpunk, while I don't care for the term, at least updates the themes and tropes for a modern audience that's seen a lot of the predictions that cyberpunk made fail to come true while still keeping relevant themes in focus.

@sniper7004

Жыл бұрын

​@@Sumguysazz i mean solar punk have same ideas that are currently popular in punk community, so i would say that is fair use of the word

@Sumguysazz

Жыл бұрын

@@sniper7004 veganism shares ideas that are popular in punk but we don’t accept veganism as punk. I mean, you can even argue solar punk ideas are shared heavily with the ideas of the modern Catholic Church, especially from their view of capitalism and environmentalism. Are we going to call the Catholic Church punk now? Like the other guy above said, punk lost all meaning to the term. People actually claim that Islamic punk and Christian punk are real genres now too.

I think Steampunk can be meaningful in a punk way but only in the rare stories where the setting is used to explore the general dissatisfaction felt by workers around the turn of the 1800s to early 1900s such as the labor movements and strikes in America at the time being as there were very little laws about it and a lot of worker exploitation, violent strike breaking, etc, and using that setting and angst as a parallel to more modern issues involving these subjects.

@kacperdrabikowski5074

Жыл бұрын

Not to be the "umm, actually" guy, but the grandfather of all steampunk, that is "The Difference Engine" by William Gibson, was explicitly written as a cyberpunk-esque story in an industrial era. So it hits most of the same notes: growing class divide, abuse of the powers of technology, social and environmental decay, etc. As it tends to happen, those who came later didn't get everything the original was saying.

@ganymede5983

Жыл бұрын

@kacperdrabikowski5074 I'd have to check out the book. I recognize the name but have never read it. If the genre carries those themes more often then I thought then I'm not giving the Steampunk enough credit.

@KarlSnarks

Жыл бұрын

It would be cool to see a alt-history steampunk story about the haymarket riots and such. Avatar-LOK had some steampunk elements too, and could've been amazing if it handled the class/political issues with more care and genuine analysis.

@matteste

Жыл бұрын

I think that Princess Principal might be tackling some of those punk themes. Themes such as class struggle and child labor are frequent themes in the story.

@geraldwashington6588

Жыл бұрын

Punk requires being against the system. When multibillion dollar oil companies fund the image of solarpunk then it’s not punk. Same with AfroPunk, and I say this as a Person of Color, afropunk isn’t grassroots fighting against the system, especially the western system. AfroPunk would have more meaning if it was fighting against a true oppressive system, like in Africa or what some of my family experienced when they traveled to south east Asia. Those are the systems that AfroPunk really only works. Tl;Dr it’s all corporate marketing schemes to sell the “David vs Goliath” story because that’s what people eat up.

Cyberpunk is one of the more fascinating genres of the 'punk' umbrella for sure. It's one of those subgenres whose history is much more fascinating than the genre itself. However, it is at the same time the very genre a casual would think of when hearing the word punk - for good reason. Cyberpunk's history is rooted in the ideals of sex culture, substance abuse, corporate tyranny and the general idea of nearly everyone being the underdog, all except for the special individual who attempts to rise above but fails miserably. It's generally what such a loaded word like punk makes you imagine. I'd argue that in a way, Cyberpunk has earned the 'punk' umbrella, as nowadays it is the standard people probably expect from a genre called 'punk'.

@neetdemon

Жыл бұрын

Nailed it right on the head.

@fvckpink4206

Жыл бұрын

i completely agree, im a punk and a big fan of cyberpunk and it definitely has earned the term punk, and i feel it always has been punk, i think there are some "cyberpunk" creations that arent punk but overall the genre is definitely punk and is sick as fuck

@fvckpink4206

Жыл бұрын

@liamsteam walsh well i think that the sex drugs and corporate tyranny help give it a punk edge because it shows its real and gritty, but i feel the corporate tyranny especially is how it is punk, punks come about when there is something to rebel against and in cyberpunk just as in the current age that is corporate tyranny although cyberpunk is 10 fold and basically a corporation state

@namelessrv8771

Жыл бұрын

@liamsteam walsh I am talking about those topics because that's where the genre itself comes from... You can do your research and prove my word, but the Cyberpunk genre stems from the drug / sex culture and is deeply rooted in those topics from its very inceptions. It's not just about the 'punk' aspect, it's about the genre as a whole. And no, it's not just an aesthetic. The drug / sex culture is more than just depressive vibes and pretty looks. As I said, you can do your own research and prove me wrong but this is what I have learned after doing research for my uni project.

@twilightvulpine

Жыл бұрын

Something about the usual cyberpunk doesn't feel punk to me. It's all too concerned with showing people being crushed by the Establishment to the point it makes it look like any act of defiance is pointless. It almost starts feeling like corporate propaganda. Where is the rebellious perseverance? Where are the people fighting to keep going despite the world pushing them down?

Personally I find there is another "punk" genre out there that nobody mentions by name, but I call it Adventure Punk, because there are wayyyyy too many fantasy settings based around Adventurers as a social class and neccesity of the world for to have not become its own thing.

@mr_indie_fan

Жыл бұрын

Another punk genre that isn't mentioned all to often: cattlepunk The western genre blending with the steampunk sub-genre to create something awesome

@Jasonwolf1495

Жыл бұрын

@@mr_indie_fan hell yeah i mean YEEEHAW!

@sarahluchies1076

Жыл бұрын

D&D would count as adventure punk in that case.

@muntu1221

Жыл бұрын

You mean the "adventure" genre?

@KryyssTV

Жыл бұрын

Biopunk has yet to really be explored in its own right. We've seen biotechnology and genetic engineering within cyberpunk but the simple fact is that if you look for biopunk art and novels it almost always has elements of cybernetics and technology when it really shouldn't. One author did have a stab at trying to break biopunk free from the shadow of cyberpunk but failed miserably. His anthology of short stories were collected in a book called Ribofunk and you can tell he was desperately trying to create the biopunk equivalent of Neuromancer. But he fell short by simply taking cyberpunk tropes of the internet, dytopiic cities run by mega-corporations and hardboiled characters and then giving them a biological twist. He did explore some very topical points however, in Ribofunk society now had genetically engineered slaves with laws governing how much human DNA they were allowed to have and the slaves themselves having a twisted kind of prejudice based upon how human they were creating an interesting bit of social commentary on how wrong it is for ethnic cultures to consider people superior or inferior based upon how Caucasian they look. The exploration of slavery from the perspective of asking "At what point does a genetically engineered pet or cattle become human" is exactly the kind of questions we cannot really explore in any prexisting -punk genre.

When I saw Nausicaä as the illustration for solarpunk I was a bit surprised (pleasantly) but when I paused to think on it I realized how true it is! Despite pre-dating the term, it absolutely fills the role. Even when I was a child borrowing the VHS from the library, those ideas had come through to me, as much as a child can understand. Why don't more communities have power generated by the powerful forces of nature in their environment? (All those windmills look so cool!) Why do princess stories tend to focus on a figurehead getting with some other figurehead when they could show a leader trying to do what's best for their people? (She gathers the resources that are needed AND helps find new ones! And I'm glad Asbel was there just as a supporting role and Nausicaä seems primarily interested in talking to him for the purposes of sharing helpful and relevant information.) Why do we have more narratives showing massive interpersonal conflict when exploration of how people work to help each other can be so compelling? (I wish there was more about Nausicaä studying the potential medical uses of plants that are usually toxic.) Eventually the ideas I had back then led to more and more complex thoughts about what institutions/government can and should do. The Valley has an adventageous geographical position that allows it to focus on developing and maintaining itself, but Pejite does not have as much protection from the Toxic Jungle and is forced to take more aggressive action to keep its citizens safe. However, Tolmekia has let that kind of aggression grow to a point where they see no option other than complete destruction of the Jungle as viable, resources be damned. But they're willing to exploit Pejite's need for protection in order to activate an instrument of the apocalypse that created this setting to reach that end, because imperialism seems to bring violence out of everyone. But let's pretend the apocalypse weapon isn't there: Is the Valley obligated to share their resources? If they do, what happens when there are too many people for the local resources to sustain? If they share their scientific findings instead of their direct resources but the other nations aren't able to make it work in their favor, are they supposed to let the the threat of the Jungle exist for the benefit of the nations that can use it? Thank you for further deepening my understanding of my favorite movie.

@dr.velious5411

Жыл бұрын

I recommend reading the manga too, the anime is only approximately the first third, it gets wild, natural vs artificial, bio-engineering, telepathy, sentient nuclear weapons, wrapped up in a pretty stark look at the unrelenting horrors of all out war. It's amazing, and you can see the roots of future Miyazaki directed movies in it.

@joda7697

Жыл бұрын

I love that movie, my friend showed it to and watched it with me half a year ago for my first time. It was so cool and the aesthetic is so unique, so different from any other movie, or ghibli movie, i had ever seen before.

@joda7697

Жыл бұрын

@@dr.velious5411 wait there's a manga?!

@dr.velious5411

Жыл бұрын

@@joda7697 Yeah, a two volume doorstopper of a manga.

@ShotofDespresso

Жыл бұрын

There's also the fact that the story of Nausicaä really is punk, because it was created by Miyazaki as a protest against the destructive habits of humanity against the Earth, and it was written at a time where environmental activism was an actual counterculture and not a trend.

I always thought that the "punk" part had to be about rebellion of some sort, and it might be against some sort of institution, like the British Empire in Victorian England, or the corporatism in Cyberpunk, but it can refer to any other situation where themes of rebellion are relevant. And they don't have to be rebellions against institutions that exist today.

@perx3561

Жыл бұрын

Yeah to me "punk" just underlines "counterculture" in Cyber-, Steam-, and whatever-punks. It doesn't really have much to do with the 1970's punk subculture besides that.

I’ve used the term “kiddie-punk” to describe games like Earthbound, One-Shot, and Lisa. It has a childish, cutesy aesthetic but tackles surprisingly mature themes. In Earthbound’s case, very subtly, or in Lisa’s case, very brazenly. I’m not sure is punk is truly the right word, but the term feels very…. right.

@frontrider3240

Жыл бұрын

That is an interesting use of words, that seems right.

@ATakTakTak

Жыл бұрын

Omori too! It fits perfectly!

@frontrider3240

Жыл бұрын

(Note, I only played oneshot from that list, and there is not a single video game that made me feel that strongly.)

@connormcconnell7805

Жыл бұрын

Punk definitely feels right because how my brain defines the -punk suffix is: "___ aesthetic but the world is fucked"

@Somajsibere

Жыл бұрын

Where I am from that is called "kitsch"

I'm glad you mentioned Solarpunk specifically in how it fits with the depth of the word. A lot of my respect for the punk movement flourished when I realised it wasn't about just being a loud contrarian with directionless anger, but a very much _directed_ anger turned into practical action. I think Solarpunk as a genre and as an aesthetic really runs with that side of punk - the world is better now, but the struggle is ever present, and it looks the same as always: one small corner of the world at a time.

@KryyssTV

Жыл бұрын

Solarpunk is so new that its really not come into its own. I've seen artwork that ranges from fantasy to art deco and even just sustainable architecture. I appreciate the idea of an optimistic vision of the future given that scifi is predominantly filled with dystopias but somehow it feels like Solarpunk is only half of a genre - it needs something complimentary to really make it stand out as being little more than sci-fantasy or just regular science fiction with a premillennial tone.

@GallowglassVT

Жыл бұрын

Contrarian punks are one of the big reasons why the word isn't taken seriously in the mainstream or just alienates people from it, both inside and outside the movement. For me, it's experimentation, a DIY attitude and a general hatred of authoritarianism while embracing ideas that let people embrace their true selves. Basically, as far away from whatever John Lydon says as possible.

@formlessone8246

Жыл бұрын

Personally, I think that of all of them, Solarpunk has the least right to call itself punk regardless of it's intentions. It's Golden Age sci-fi! It's Star Trek with or without the spaceships! It's utopian! Disaffection with dystopian fiction such as the cyberpunk genre doesn't make your story punk, it's rather missing the point of why cyberpunk was dystopian in the first place, or even what makes it Cyberpunk. It's not about the neon lights, urban decay and prosthetics, but warning people about the dangers of the very technological advances that golden age science fiction practically worshipped. Warning that those technologies weren't being developed by benevolent engineers, but by corporate suits with money on their minds. In that way, Gattaca is a cyberpunk story even though the technology being critiqued is genetic and not cybernetic. It thematically resonates with cyberpunk. Meanwhile what thematic core can we identify in Solarpunk? From my experience with it, it seems like most authors are falling for the very same trap that cyberpunk was warning against, except that the technologies in question are energy and environmental science related. Perhaps if it was about the struggle to get those technologies adopted, then it might have real punk edge to it. But from what I have seen, people want to jump past that part to a utopian world like Star Trek, with none of the necessary cynicism about the current world that holds them back. It's only "punk" in a uselessly meta way that would not be identifiable if the author was dead and we only had their work itself to judge it by. In contrast, I think the Afropunk genre gets it. The story is about the struggle, not just the meta-commentary. You know immediately from the way these stories and associayed artistic movements present themselves that they are definitely punk and cannot be confused for something else like golden age science fiction. I would never mistake Afropunk with Star Trek

@GallowglassVT

Жыл бұрын

@@formlessone8246 Solarpunk is usually just about the ideas being expressed and presenting an opposition to stuff like grimdark (which is pretty punk tbh). That being said, any confrontation within the narrative itself should reflect that opposition via the story itself. It's why Nausicaa works so well, because there exists genuine opposition to the peaceful functioning alternative.

@fvckpink4206

Жыл бұрын

i agree i feel like solarpunk also has alot to do with the direct action side of punk, and me as an anarchist and a punk who wants a green future know that punk isnt beating people up or doing drugs, but being yourself and actively trying to make the world a better place for everyone!

One aspect of the original usage of punk was within the content of the stories themselves in relation to how socially acceptable cybernetics were. Most of the characters in Neuromancer were people who existed on the fringes of society like drug addicts, mercenaries and hackers. They weren't punks, but they shared the non-comformity of the punk subculture. Today we do have a real parrallel with Cybergoths who draw inspiration from the Cyberpunk aesthetic. Consequently this is where the term post-cyberpunk came about as writers recognised that if a story has cybernetics normalised them it doesn't have the deviant nature of punk at all. For example Ghost In The Shell is often erroneously called cyberpunk despite the use of cybernetics being not only commonplace but even encouraged; where NOT having augmentation is considered unusual as is often a point of discussion among characters when talking about Togusa. Even Cyberpunk 2077 is edging towards actually being post-cyberpunk but manages to maintain its standing as extensive use of cybernetics is considered socially unacceptable as we have seen with even augmented characters despising Adam Smasher for being barely organic anymore. So, there's really two ways to use the -punk moniker. The first is to explain that the themes and ideas expressed within the story are not socially acceptable by modern standards and the second is to explain that your story is exploring the events and characters of a subculture within a fictional world and society. And of course it is possible to combine these two definitions in a story that is not only dealing with unacceptable themes in our own society but also does it using a fictional subculture. An almost self-aware narrative.

@elsanto2401

Жыл бұрын

I think Cyberpunk 2077 is more post-cyberpunk, or a cybercore dystopia. Rather than being counter-cultural criminals, most of the characters in Cyberpunk 2077 are chasing a socially acceptable dream that parallels mythologizing of people already in power. Not only is the punk element separated from being a social hazard, but it's preemptively rendered harmless by the characters understanding that they cannot effect social change and will almost certainly die and be eulogized in cocktail format. Calling these characters punks is like taking sigma grindset contraprenuers and calling them anticapitalists.

@KryyssTV

Жыл бұрын

@@elsanto2401 You may be correct, I'm not sure if Night City is typical of most metropolitan areas in the CP2077 universe or if its simply got a high cyberpunk subculture presence. There's also the matter of how much cybernetic augmentation would be considered socially acceptable. We do know from CP sourcebooks that cyberware in general is described as being as common as "jewelry and tatoos" but is used for everything from fashion to neural inteface with the Net and full body replacement where you're just a brain a jar.. However, the later of these is so prohibitively expensive that they're incredibly rare. The sourcebooks also say that cybernetics were the result of medical prosthetic technology being repurposed during the 1st Central American War to augment the carrying capacity of soldiers and led to a cybernetics arms race to produce ever more sophisticated implants and limb replacements. Corporations became wealthy from cybernetics so when the war was over they applied the medical implants for commercial use and then slowly expanded to the other non-military applications. All this suggests that, ironically, the Cyberpunk universe never went through a period of cybernetics being central to some deviant subculture.

@TF2CrunchyFrog

Жыл бұрын

I have actually heard _Ghost in the Shell S.A.C._ being refered to as a perfect example of Post-Cyberpunk or Neo-Cyberpunk ("lots of Cyber, little Punk") because the characters are not living at the edges of society trying to bring down the established order, but are instead working _for_ the government for Section 9. Although as agents of Section 9, they are BlackOps and they fight cyberterrorists and corporate corruption both, in an attempt to prevent society from spiraling into destruction. But then, the Japanese _Ghost in the Shell S.A.C._ series and German Shadowrun RPG both present a world where the government as an institution still exists as a (however ineffective or partially corrupt) counterweight to the megacorporations. While in classic US-American Cyberpunk (like Shadowrun RPG and Cyberpunk 2020), the world _is_ run by megacorporation and characters either live at the edges of crumbling society, or work as mercenaries for the corporations in their corporate wars. So despite not being a corporate employee, they are nevertheless part of the system, no matter how much they tell themselves they're the rebels, the wrench in the system... because they get paid by the corporate fixers for doing the dirty illegal work.

@tiffanykorta2272

Жыл бұрын

Whilst Western Cyberpunk is more about the high-tech, low-life Eastern Cyberpunk is much more about what is human

@KryyssTV

Жыл бұрын

@@tiffanykorta2272 And that is why its best classified as cybercore not cyberpunk.

I'm actually in the process of starting a punk band, it's a farmpunk band. I was a farmer for 20 years so just writing what I know!

@Glaaki13

Жыл бұрын

Well org skinheads where about work and working class

@epictetushasepictiddiez2615

Жыл бұрын

I think theirs a word for that already: hellbilly started by Rob zombie

@levifleecs1406

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but rob zombie can't play the accordion and not been farmer! 😂😂

@Sorrowdusk

Жыл бұрын

*Birchpunk* is a series of short vids (4mins) you should watch on youtube.

@levifleecs1406

Жыл бұрын

@@Sorrowdusk sounds good I'll give em a try, ya got me curious. I'd say what I'm goin for is mostly like if hank williams senior , gogol bordello and gg allin all got together!

When I originally had the suffix "Punk" explained to me, is was how the descriptor, (i.e. cyber, steam, splatter,) effected "Fashion." To advance it further, it is how the descriptor effects "culture."

There's actually been a bit of a movement lately to stop devaluation of the word punk, and try to use it specifically in context of fiction that to some degree represents values of the punk movement, so ones critical or deconstructing authority and social structures. Personally I also like using it for fiction that takes the concept of "high tech, low life", but replace 'tech' with... whatever is the first part of your 'punk'. Magic punk? High magic, low life. Dungeon punk? High fantasy (with dungeons etc), low life. Steam punk? High steam tech, low life. And so on, and so forth.

@michimatsch5862

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, we recently played a ttrpg game that called itself castlepunk. Vampires who feed on blood (even the money is silver+blood) of workers and peasants. They are arietocrats and factory owners. The mission? Tear down the whole rotten system. Feels very punk. Especially considering the tagline of "drink the rich."

Can you guys do a video on the cattlepunk genre? (When the western genre and steampunk genre mix together to make something awesome) Update: Nowhere productions made a video on it in his "what's up punks?" Series; So i found more then enough in there! (And more in his other videos in that series)

@timhaldane7588

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@calladricosplays

Жыл бұрын

I was about to say, I've heard of steampunk described as sepia Victorian and that's basically old western!

@mr_indie_fan

Жыл бұрын

@@timhaldane7588 i honestly don't see what's funny about my comment..... its an underused, underappreciated but awesome sub-genre.....

@aleksisgabliks3881

Жыл бұрын

Dude, dude, if you like that mixture, check out Boylei hobby time, he has been making dioramas set in "wild imaginary west" for over a year. Some are mote grounded, others have mecha-wagons and region appropriate monsters

@kjhansonkjhanson6643

Жыл бұрын

So Weird Western

Punk is about the system that the word is tied to and how the characters go against or are sabotaged by them, it's the feeling that something isn't right.

I think one of the reasons that various ______-punk tags can differ in meaning so much is that these days "punk" can describe a number of different things, be it the social attitude/aesthetic that you mentioned here or a visual aesthetic. And while of course what constitutes "punk" when it comes to visual aesthetics is one that is endlessly debated, it definitely plays a part in why some ____-punk genres use the "punk" tag. In fact I would suggest that Steampunk in particular, one way or another - even if the creator didn't perhaps intend it that way, gets its "punk" tag/association more from its visual aesthetic than from a general ideological lean toward the subversive etc. I.e. "Steampunk" carries the look of punk moreso than it necessarily skews toward the ideological tenets thereof. (again, I realize that what people think punk "looks like" varies from person to person - though to some degree the look can be referenced akin to the old description a judge used when it came to describing/defining what constituted pornography, (para) "I can't tell you specifically what it looks like, but I know it when I see it.")

I heard the word punk so many times in a row that it stopped sounding like a word to me, and then when you asked what punk really means I just completely blanked.

Oh my. I've been away for a while. is that opening new? that is beautiful. i'm happy to hear the term "Gaslamp Fantasy" come up. I don't know if it's in use by others, but the comic "Girl Genius" used that term to describe itself once and it really does get the vibe Phil and Kaja Foglio put out. i haven't check up on it in years at this point. i really should. gods know if it's still being made or they found a stopping point.

hey there, drunk disaffected writer here. i want you to know that tale foundry has been a a very useful tool for me and i appreciate the service you provide the literary community by making these videos. you should be very proud of the content you provide as it has helped me through multiple writer's blocks and entertained thousands. don't stop doing you, you guys are all so great. your content is impeccable, your theming excellent, and your messages divine. a special thanks to tale bot as the talent, you've inspired a scifi D&D character of mine that focuses on non-violent conflict resolution that im rather proud of, and would not exist if not for you. your soft voice is the voice is that of mine. you give me the strength to be gentle. i hope one day to write a story worthy of mention by your channel and notice by the world at large. i love you and wish you the best! Bo Tucker (hopefully you'll see my name on the cover of a novel someday)

This has been one of my pet peeves for the longest time, and I’m so glad someone is finally addressing it! I feel so seen right now.

I really like this breakdown of the punk genre in literature~ (I had no idea one of my favorite Studio Ghibli films was considered as solar-punk! Definitely looking more of that up later.) I particularly adore the steampunk genre, but was always confused with why they called it "punk" when its world building usually wasn't trying to stand up against any notable opposing force, and was more of a fantastical world building style. I agree that in a way, it IS opposing a force- just one that's not within its story, but rather against how we, the readers, normally view the world. (And yeah, that definition could easily appease any punk genres~)

I would really appreciate a steampunk video, i am currently making a steampunk project called "Hydrosteam" with a water protagonist and machines without water in a city long forgotten. This is my first big project and a guide on steampunk would really help! Also, love this video so far!!

@redman7775

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by "Water protagonist?"

@PaveltheBugFan

Жыл бұрын

@@redman7775 literally, the protagonist is made by a water god and is made of water and the robots qre running low on that

@jurtheorc8117

Жыл бұрын

@@PaveltheBugFan Considering water does not get destroyed, only changes phases, and steam engines obviously require water to be a thing, I assume there may be some sort of climate phenomenon that pulls away all the water vapors or something of the like, which in the long term will be leading to significant environmental changes within the world of your story.

@PaveltheBugFan

Жыл бұрын

@@jurtheorc8117 and the changes to the world are well.. The rest of the world outside the city being an empty desert And the climate phenomenon is the water god being so much weakened by the environmentally bad actions of the technology, that all the time water turns into steam, the water god cant do nothing about it (that's actually why water god created our protagonist)

I used to think of stories where humans and robots are indistinguishable, biology being buildable, and I learned that it is a small punk genre, Bio-punk.

@MrElbowsmash

Жыл бұрын

Biopunk. That's a term I haven't heard in a long time.

@omegalettexyphonophore3111

Жыл бұрын

I think Nausicaa counts?

@matteste

Жыл бұрын

That is one I often end up thinking about. Though I think that what TF refers to as Splatter Punk is just confused with Bio Punk.

@kasane1337

Жыл бұрын

I always think of Cruelty Squad when I hear Biopunk / Splatter Punk - it's digusting, terrifying, and absolutely punk.

BEAUTIFUL INTRO!!!!! Wow, that hand animation is lovely; great job!!!! Smooth as butter and absolutely gorgeous. And the LIGHTING! Perfect. Just.....perfect. Great job Tale Foundry Team!! Absolutely stunning. Now that I've watched it over 10 times I will continue the rest of the video. lol

I remember how Hiro Mashima, the author of Fairy Tail, described his series as Fantasy Punk. It’s not a series with knights fighting dragons and frail old wizards who take 30 minutes to cast a spell, but instead it has plucky young wizards who use martial arts with their magic powers who fight WITH the power of dragons. A lot of people don’t like Fairy Tail because they say it’s so similar to other series or that it constantly breaks the rules of Shonen Manga, but in the end that’s not the type of story Mashima wanted to write.

@ninab.4540

Жыл бұрын

It sold me when Gajeel joined the guild. Any other story woukve killed him.

in my opinion, the various -punk genres and subgenres are (at least nowadays) more about taking a genre, aesthetic, or time period and exaggerating them. one example of my own that i hope to eventually write is more just for the title but kind of applies that idea, called _Francopunk_ as such an exaggeration not really of a genre but of French culture, mixing elements from all across French history (such as classic-style musketeers with the Eiffel Tower in the background and Jules Verne-like technology being normal) into one story and adapting characters from French fiction (the main antagonist of this story would be a version of Fantômas, for example)

"Punk" is fundamentally counterculture. That's what everything has in common. It "feels" a certain way because there's a pattern, even if the origin story of the term means there are outliers and counterexamples. Punk means the author is approaching the subject in a way that subverts current cultural expectations. Fantasy isn't "elf-punk" even though it theoretically could be if Tolkien's core messaging has been a little different. If you WERE to write elf-punk, the elves would be right. They'd be on the defensive in the world of global affairs, but they'd have a way of life that is fundamentally "better" than the thing they oppose, though you'd only be able to tell when you looked closer. Tolkien wrote his elves as boomers. Important in their time, but their time has passed and now it's time for them to stop trying to run things.

@TF2CrunchyFrog

Жыл бұрын

"If you WERE to write elf-punk, the elves would be right. They'd be on the defensive in the world of global affairs, but they'd have a way of life that is fundamentally "better" than the thing they oppose, though you'd only be able to tell when you looked closer." Expect Punks are not automatically right nor is their counterculture way of life "better" (better in what way? better for what?). Having the elves be right, well, I direct you to Hellboy II movie. But in general, _any_ protagonists who are presented both as "edgy rebels" and presented to be "right" (because the author says so) become unbearably annoying, smug arrogant holier-than-thou Mary-Sues. If you want your elves to be stand-ins for any marginalised group, and always right, and having a way of life that is "fundamentally better" (for themselves? or for the world at large?), well then you have to answer the question, "Why isn't everyone living that way?" and "How did they get from Point A to Point X where they are now?" If the answer is, "Well, elves have this super-duper magic that allows them to have basically free energy and free food and zero pollution with no drawbacks", then it's just a cop-out along the lines of Vibranium-tech-powered Wakanda in _Black Panther_ (Where I keep asking myself, how did they get from Point A pre-industrial hunter-gatherers that all humans started out as, to Point X with Scifi-tech, without passing through all the neccessary historical/technological development steps in between? How do they feed their population without having impact on the ecosystem, without being able to expand their territory as well? How do they curb their population growth in the absence of war, diseases, parasites, starvation, all the things that used to kill off most humans often as infacts throughout history prior to hte 20th century?) If you answer is, "Well, the humans _could_ live in harmony with nature by using plot device magic, but they PREFER to cut down forests to build their houses, cook their food, make charcoal to make steel and pottery, cook salt, dry limestone into quicklime, etc etc, because humans are EVIL", then you're just writing Us-vs-Them clichés.

I love your new intro! It fits into your calm, explanatory storytelling manner of speaking, it's great!

The animated intro is gorgous!! Thank you for doing such interesting and hard work!!

Beautifully video, and I love the newer intro the team has made! Thank you again, and ta ta for now.

I love the taleoid costumes! I've also heard of hopepunk as a descriptor of solarpunk, as a response to grimdark

Great video man! I watched the new intro and was blown away! It was insanely well done. The new 3D ascetic is great! I love that now the little robot helpers are actually shown next to you giving the sense of scale that I feel was missing before.

I am a loyal fan of yours. The visual effects in your work are stunning. It's truly something worth learning from

I don't know if you'll see this, but this intro you have is absolutely incredible

Theirs a game coming out called "bomb rush cyberfunk" and I'm surprised more people aren't replacing punk with funk if the story isn't actually focused on punk. Funk has 2 definition, one with music style with elements of soul and the other being a strong smell. Both could be symbolic descriptors to emphasize the first word's importance to the setting. Solarfunk, cyberfunk, steamfunk, ect.

@Sorrowdusk

Жыл бұрын

Very 'Jet Grind Radio' vibe.

I go on tale foundry binges and this is the first time I saw that animated intro and holy cow!!! That was beautifully done even if only a few seconds!

1st video of yours I've ever watched. Right off the bat, that intro animation was amazing. You should make a series of some kind.

You should do the cores next like cottagecore ravencore, goblincore(the last two are about using found things instead of buying) and others

Punk is ultimately a vibe as much as it as an attitude for many, but for me, media can be described as punk based on its ethos: anti-establishment ideas, experimentation with what's at your disposal, DIY approaches, breaking away from cultural, sexual, gender and religious norms (and not these aging edgelords who made the musical equivalent of shitposts whinging about "woke culture").

Really cool to see you talking about stuff like this now. I've always wondered at the -punk genres and their origins, and I found this quite informative.

Very insightful video, thanks!

The "punk" genres are on of the most creative genres out there.

The animated intro is wonderful!

This is such incredible content, seriously the effort put in is amazing

I swear you read my mind when you decided to upload this video. I've started to get a small itch in the body for some cyberpunk and been reading a little about it. On TV Tropes xD

Not gonna lie, if a story/show/medium identified itself as "Gaslamp fantasy" I would jump on that s*it SO FAST! That sounds like the coolest thing since the creation of the internet!

AI generated art seems like it would be the most Cyberpunk thing ever. Companies devised technology to take away or render meaningless a fundamental aspect of the human experience, the creation of symbols of self expression.

Very nice new (?) intro. I just recently suscribed, and I really like this channel. Your work is amazing, really thoughtful. So, thanks!

Unrelated to the video topic but I LOVE the new intro. It truly shows what the channel is about. The mystery and wonder in every episode

I'm not as much of a writer as I am a worldbuilder. This video has inspired Me to call my genre: _Non - Medieaval - Culture - driven - Spear - Punk - Dark - Fantasy._ I don't call it that to clearly define anything, just to get a mixture of confusion and intrigue from the right audience. Also, That new intro is great, you could be a PBS show.

Would love to see Tale Foundry do a deep dive on Splatterpunk one of these days.

Love the new intro!

It's really amusing that you reference Iron Harvest in the video and I've began watching Iron Harvest videos earlier today

word disassociation baby.

Solarpunk is awesome and more people need to know about it.

It's been a bit since I watched this channel and I love the new intro

Yalls new intro is tight, love you guys

I think this is really interesting in so far as I totally remove "punk" from cyberpunk as a genre. i don't see the social aspects as required at all to it. Sure it started with counter-culture rebellion, but to me it matters far more to have a high scifi setting with lots of cybernetics. You can have lots of other things too, you can have counter culture elements, but to me it's very much about the cyber and punk is just a term for person. I really only see these as subgenres to specify more, rather than their specifics. That may well hurt for some who really hook onto the punk side of things, but that's the flaw of genre, it's possibly the messiest most subjective thing in all fiction and media. I call star wars a space western, others say space fantasy, others say scifi and so on. Genre is at the end, a tool to help sort and catagorize as we humans so love to do. Perhaps because of that it's worthwhile for us to use both versions, to have genres that emphasize the punk and others than emphasize the "cyber", and to have works in both that may lean either way.

Nausicaä really was my awakening to wanting solar punk futures, and Nausicaä herself is my role model in my transition

The new intro fits so well!

I love the intro, the animation is beautiful :)

I didnt watch the video yet but I think that cyberpunk is losing its punk status for sure

@mr_indie_fan

Жыл бұрын

"A genre doesn't change, the works made in it do." -me, just now

@Glaaki13

Жыл бұрын

Nope as Cyberpunk the genre is punk, of cause more people now understand that if we dont do something, it will be our future

@909crime

Жыл бұрын

I watched the video and I agree that cyberpunk is way more punk than other punk genres, but idk i feel like it's losing the edge a bit. The cyberpunk future is literally here now and its not as exciting as i thought it was gonna be 😔

@kjhansonkjhanson6643

Жыл бұрын

​@@Glaaki13 we're living in a dystopian technocracy now

@Glaaki13

Жыл бұрын

@@kjhansonkjhanson6643 true

I really love the new intro!

such an interesting concept that words will alter in meaning over the years, from an insult, to something people thrive for, to something that describes the overarching dynamic of how a fictional world works especially interesting to see how many words get reclaimed by the ones it targeted

There's a lot of swearing in this video

@Glaaki13

Жыл бұрын

😆

quire wasnt ORIGINALLY a derogatory term. it just meant odd. sort of like how Gay meant happy. most words dont START as derogatory, they BECOME that way due to context. its the say way that i can say "Friend" with a sneer and you know i dont mean the word by its definition. all slurs are actually just normal words imparted with hate by the speaker. say the word without hate and it completely changes. if i call my little brother an idiot with a smile and a high five when he does something outrageous, its a complement.

@TF2CrunchyFrog

Жыл бұрын

Both "punk" and "spunk" originally meant a piece of tinder to light a fire with. Same goes for the difference in British English vs American English when it comes to the word f a g (g o t), which in British English simply means a short piece of wood or a bundle of dry sticks to light a fire with, while in American English it became a slur for homosexual men.

@vfanon

Жыл бұрын

@@TF2CrunchyFrogDamn, hearing that origin actually makes the word “punk” being used to self-describe into something much more meaningful. Revolutionary shit.

New intro is awesome!

maybe just call it pulp ,,,

Two things that kinda throw a wrench into this discussion that the video didn't really bring up: 1. Sometimes works in the -punk genres where the intention behind their creation isn't really "punk," like steampunk or dieselpunk, still have strong anti-establishment themes. One way I've seen done is by the writer using the work's setting as a way to criticize aspects of real-world industrial/technological society by having their characters struggle against what is essentially a fantasy/retro-futuristic funhouse mirror version of it. Not a lot of stories do this though, so steampunk, dieselpunk, etc.'s claim to being punk is still questionable. 2. Cyberpunk is really two genres in a trenchcoat. There's cyberpunk as 80's retrofuturism in the vein of steampunk, dieselpunk, etc., and then there's cyberpunk as near-future dystopian fiction involving computers, hacking, megacorporations, etc. This is because the world has moved on from what the 80's thought the future was going to look like but some of the broad-strokes predictions are either coming true or already have. So there are still works being made that are directly inspired by 80's cyberpunk aesthetics but aren't necessarily "punk", while others take the core ideas of the genre and apply either a more realistic aesthetic or a more modern idea of what "futuristic" should look like.

❤This video alone has me hooked on your channel.

I feel like a lot of these "genres" really kind of under utilise their genres opportunities. Normally Cyberpunk displays the horrors of capitalism trough a prism of a corporate world, not too dissimilar from our own, and that is where it shines, because the world enhances that type of storytelling. well other types of world have these advantages as well: Steampunk for example could be really good at presenting the horrors of colonialism, trough the prism of vietcong like freedom fighters, or the struggles of the workers of that era to get many of the rights we enjoy today such as weekends, or the right to not die in a factory. Or if you don't like the previous themes one could write how libertine society was before the 1900s, while simuoulatanously how racist it was. Diesel punk is used more to its advantages normally, usually presenting the horrors of ww1 and trench warfare trough the prism of a regular soldier( usually in such settings the giant machine fights are for the cool factor and a metaphor for how one soldier usually can't influence the tide of battle alone) or presenting an occupation, usually by Nazi Germany or a analogue( DIeselpunk has very similar aesthethics to Nazi Germany) trough the prism of either a regular person or again a freedom fighter or both. Afropunk and Solarpunk usually tell their stories well normally because usually they are not just a aesthetic, they use their world to help the story along, and that is why they are successful as opposed to steampunk, dieselpunk and to some extent modern cyberpunk

@jaywilliams720

Жыл бұрын

personally i think that cyberpunk is the most "valid" with solarpunk in close second. cyberpunk is obvious, and i think the video describes why pretty well. to me solarpunk deserves the suffix, too, because it does actually counteract most of the tropes of speculative fiction we have nowadays. it isnt an interesting choice to showcase corruption and dystopic futures in storytelling anymore, imo. the idea that the future will be shit is sort of a mainstream one. we just sort of accept that the world is getting worse on a societal level. thats why i like solarpunk and see it as a counter to these attitudes. its saying "no, we can acheive a better world. we can succeed as a species in harmony with nature and we have to beleive we can before we can even think of attempting it". furthermore, most solarpunk art seems heavily inspired by anarchist thinking from what i've seen. its about communities looking after each other despite the collapse of an old order. maybe thats just what i get out of it but i really rate solarpunk for being brave enough to imagine a better world where humans are at one with nature and to tell us that such a world is possible even if it doesnt feel like it.

@Somajsibere

Жыл бұрын

@@jaywilliams720 i really agree with you man, although afropunk also really deserves the term as well. I was just sort of making a suggestion, because you don t really see art centering on workers struggles anymore.

@jaywilliams720

Жыл бұрын

@@Somajsibere yeah i see what you're saying, just wanted to add to it i guess haha. im not super familliar with afropunk though, what works do you think exemplify the style?

@Somajsibere

Жыл бұрын

@@jaywilliams720 sorry for answerimg late. I remember reading some afro punk comics a couple of years ago, because the art looked cool, but for the life of me I can t remember the title.

You managed to pinpoint my "suspicions"/"dislike?" of Steam Punk. I could never tell what it was that didn't sit well with me about Steam Punk. The genre seemed to have no fundamental meaning apart from the tech being steam-based instead of it being future-tech-based. EDIT: Thumbs up to Afro-punk, which I have not heard before, but can imagine it. Its also a good contrast to Afro-futurism. END EDIT.

A facinating topic, the punk word for me was always ment indicate a sub genre of retro futurism because if you think about it cyberpunk as become the retro-futurism of the eighties so words like atomicpunk or clockpunk have kind of been relegated to an indication of what type of uchronie you are gonna get, so in that sense I agree with that the word 'punk' kind of lost it's beening. However if you think about ut most uchroniche and specialy retro-futurism often have a punk feeling, because just seeing what people thought our future was going to look like often forces us to confront the biases of their culture of the time.

love your art and great video

11:44 I swear Aloy's look is so distinctive and iconic that it translates into any medium and is still immediately recognizable. It wasn't even a "huh, familiar...?" moment, it was straight up "Aloy!"

What a Great Intro! Never seen something like it, it is kinda Impressive tbh.

1:26 damn what a majestic opening to a video that animation reminds me of that animation for bilibili studios that plays before an anime.

the new intro is awesome!

WHEN DID YOU GET THE SICK ANIMATED INTRO?!? omg that's amazing

What a gorgeous new intro animation.

Woah!! I love the intro! Is it new? I've never seen it before. Then again, I've also only been around a week-

The new intro is soooooo amazing

You sound like Akechi from Persona 5. Great video btw!

i would love to see you guys make a video on world of darkness i feel it's right up your alley.

The new intro looks amazing TF

Now I have to look into how many different kinds of punk are out there.

I love that I get to watch that new intro on every video.

I've been thinking a lot about "biopunk" lately. It seems a lot of its earlier examples happen to be quintessential cyberpunk works, like Blade Runner and Final Fantasy VII, in fact it's very hard to find cyberpunk works that don't involve the human body being modified. The separation between these two, that cyber = tech & info while bio = organic & genetic engineering seems to be on the part of biopunk fans who want emphasis on these themes, while cyberpunk fans would have no problem identifying biopunk works as cyberpunk.

@Pazuzu4All

Жыл бұрын

If you want a game that takes biopunk to a horrifying conclusion (and don't mind a game that's intentionally fugly as sin), give Cruelty Squad a try.

@erikschaal4124

10 ай бұрын

I don't have too much experience with bio-punk. I think of GATTACA, which explores genetic engineering, and creates a cast system based on one's genes. I also think of the Manga/Anime, Teraformers. Where an attempt to Teraform Mars using modified cockroaches, goes horribly wrong. And now they use genetically modified soldiers to combat the threat. (This one is really violent. )

Now I need one video for every genre

Great video overall but one thing I believe was overlooked when analyzing the subgenres of all the different punks is taking into account punk ethics and how they manifest within these subgenres. Specifically Solarpunk. When looking at Solarpunk and actually thinking about what the movement stands for and is defined by you'll see, at it's core, a basis of community focused/driven direct action with a strong emphasis on DIY approaches to food/goods, self sufficiency and not letting any group, individual, or company function in a manner that will harm the world which we all share. I do agree that Solarpunk as a movement is punk solely on the basis that it "defies real world conventions" but I feel like your portrayal of it diminishes most of the important aspects of what actually makes it punk. Sure, it looks entirely different than the steroetypical Sex Pistols/SLC Punk/Mohawk wielding stereotype most people associate with the punk scene they've seen in popular media but punk is far more than just a music/fashion scene. It's always been a community of likeminded, forward thinking people that want to see real, tangible change by various methods and arts. Analyzing punk in regards to any of its aesthetic, media-centric stereotypes is kind of a bad foot to start off on when trying to properly analyze what makes something punk. No shade at all as i genuinely loved your video but I do think it is incredibly important to look beyond just the aesthetic and media presented to you and actually look at the culture, movements and beliefs behind the scene. Edit: If you'd like a great explanation about what solarpunk actually is then I would highly recommend checking out Andrewism's video "What Is Solarpunk"

YOOO THAT BEGINNING ANIMATION IS BANGER

Isn't is so beautiful to see a language grow up and evolve slowly? And with the amount of connection nowadays, they grow even faster. I can only hope I will be able to understand my grandchildren. XD

new intro looks so sick

How did your humans make your animation? Specifically the animation of your opening. I love it so much.

Wooooow the intro was so beautyfull!!! I like it ^_^

That into cinematic has immaculate vibes!