What I find funny is that despite all three of the dart monkey's paths being C, B-, and D tier respectively, the base dart monkey would likely be in S or SS because you literally need it to start CHIMPS on a lot of experts

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

It's a widely known fact that the almighty 0-0-0 dart monkey stands above all 🙏🏻

@TutorialsGuy

Ай бұрын

So true

@rmlgaming2091

Ай бұрын

Exactly, although this is becoming slightly less true. Muddy puddles and ouch can be beaten without dart these days.

@rockit2475

22 күн бұрын

If 0-0-0 dart and 0-0-0 engi weren't usable in CHIMPS, a majority of the harder maps would be near impossible

Crossbow master being lower than Benjamin in a CHIMPS only tier list is wild

@Weed.eater_

Ай бұрын

In all fairness Ben Syphon is pretty cracked late 80s and 90s which are often the second hardest part of chimps run (first bein the early game) so Ben can actually be semi viable sometimes. While crossbow master is just straight ass cheeks and doesn’t pair well with anything

@kaydenwomack8049

Ай бұрын

RIGHT?!

@galaxygamer4227

Ай бұрын

Fr 😭😭

@ThePenisMan

Ай бұрын

Siphon funding ability

@ThePenisMan

Ай бұрын

Siphon funding ability

I swear to god, Strikers dog is always having a stroke.

@lihavalokki5705

Ай бұрын

Especially when the game is sped up

@its_xen0nn

Ай бұрын

stroker dog

@iurimoura426

Ай бұрын

Now i cant unsee this lmao

Bro striker Jones’ dog just rolls over the whole video 😭

@trinityskaze8609

Ай бұрын

He's a good boy that deserves his belly rubs.

@sniper7303

Ай бұрын

he be rollin

@Lockedupmymouthandthrewawa-x6b

Ай бұрын

GOOD BOY!!!

@cyb3rentity263

Ай бұрын

i cant even watch the vid😭focus on the little guy only

@metal_pipe9764

Ай бұрын

No they don't, there's an entire minute where they don't

As a crossbow master enjoyer reading this title dealt me psychic damage

@leonardotrujillo8661

Ай бұрын

Not physical pain?

@foxyy2048

Ай бұрын

@@leonardotrujillo8661 he knows pain is an invention of the mind

@A_Name136

Ай бұрын

@@leonardotrujillo8661 must be poision type

@aboogala4678

Ай бұрын

@@A_Name136 okay this joke. this joke i like.

@ColetheFlame01

Ай бұрын

I feel you my fellow Crossbow master enjoyer. That monkey is easily my most used tier 5.

Still waiting for the thing to get a buff so the “(used to be) controversial towers 2TC” of XBM and Glaive Lord is finally possible

@ColetheFlame01

Ай бұрын

I almost beat Chimps on Resort with Crossbow Master and a Permabrew, I lost to 98 and I think only cause of bad placement looking back on it.

@MockySocky

Ай бұрын

@@ColetheFlame01 it can struggles against round 99 and 100 but fails

@martinshoosterman

Ай бұрын

Glaive lord and XBM 2tc was almost possible before the last glaive lord buff, I tried it a few times and it got super close, I think it died to round 99 or 100. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s possible now

@MockySocky

Ай бұрын

@@martinshoosterman already tried this update, didn’t work

@LMJMeman

Ай бұрын

@@martinshoosterman how did you beat 59? did you already have xbm?

It's canon that Quincy trains the crossbow dart monkeys... that would explain why they're so mid.

@worminaround

Ай бұрын

Quincy can't even buff them

@D-S-G.

Ай бұрын

roasted

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

Quincy is at least strong at the later part of the runs

@ShiaTheBunnyGirl

Ай бұрын

The funny thing is Quincy's actually pretty valuable in chimps, he's great on maps like infernal (Although infernals one of the easiest chimps maps anyway) he just so happened to be attempting to train soldiers that were doomed to fail

@worminaround

Ай бұрын

@@ShiaTheBunnyGirl honestly Quincy is my go to chimps, pair him with decent t5 plus alch you basically only need bad defense and lead defence

Its a "comfortable" tower for new players, it gets tons of range, usually shoots fast enough and hits hard enough that it can pretty much solo everything up to round 80, meaning you can drop one or both of them and easy GG your way through most of the medals

@Shirotsune-Tomuro

Ай бұрын

Exactly, xbm only really falls off at the alternate hard modes

@galaxi-by3xu

25 күн бұрын

​@@Shirotsune-Tomurothe same way as half of the towers in the game

I had a challenge idea. 2 tower chimps BUT you have to try to have the two towers have as close pops as possible. The closer there pops the better your score.

@antoniobordonhos1672

Ай бұрын

I feel like he's done a challenge like this before but I'd love to see a rerun!

@wyattskinner697

Ай бұрын

@@antoniobordonhos1672 bro forgot to change accounts, also, how tf is your reply OLDER than your comment

@HIGHDEFINITIONCRACKHOUSEPRODUC

Ай бұрын

@@wyattskinner697 I don’t think he forgot to change accounts just adding additional info to his comment.

@MAML_

Ай бұрын

@@HIGHDEFINITIONCRACKHOUSEPRODUC when edit

@aidanarmaggeddon

Ай бұрын

​@@antoniobordonhos1672 thid was from the BTD6 challenge tourney a while ago. The one where a bunch of towers should have as close a pop count as possible and the winners sold all their towers 💀

Another reason the crossbow is popular with casuals might be that it would be one of the first they get because the towers unlock progressively with levels and they can get dart xp faster earlier on.

@anusaukko6792

Ай бұрын

It's because XBM is a very good jack of all trades tower. It has rapid fire-rate, it has pierce, it has camo detection, it has lead popping, and it has a ginormous range. You can just plop it down and not worry about any round up to like the 80s.

@duytaxuan4980

Ай бұрын

Yea, that's why I used to like it. After the pierce nerf Crossbow Master dies to stacked rounds like 63, 76 and 78 and is no longer just beats pre-freplay rounds outright.

@owenblount7334

Ай бұрын

They shoot fast and do decent damage and crits

@mrspecialk1234

11 күн бұрын

Getting two crossbow masters was my go to strategy for a longtime….until Ninja Kiwi weakened the tower…..took me a while to click on to the fact they did that though…..

"Beloved by casual players" Maybe cause it is the best dart path casually. Top path is fairly niche although it better than it used to be. Mid path requires too much round knowledge and isn't as bb friendly being ability based. For fairly cheap it gives large range, type coverage and decent use as mid carry. Solid pick since alot of beginner map players aren't 1 tower + supp spam. All that said, I'd agree with D tier for expert chimps. A pretty meh t5 and out classed t1-4. Still better than top beast imo

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

Oc orca fucks bloody

@MythicWiz

Ай бұрын

Orca is a great tower from my personal experience But the t5 is uhhh

@DoubleDuck2

Ай бұрын

The top path beast handler gets carried by orca

@yuricesar9706

Ай бұрын

Orca can get 70k cash lefover on bloody puddles chimps,way better than xbm

You'd think with U-Jugg being great at Ceramic damage, and PMFC being a fun ability, XBOW master woul be great at single target. It's technically the niche it does have, high damage, with crits, low pierce. But it has no extra bonuses so it just...cant do it's job. I do like it though. Cool design.

@im-possible-1

Ай бұрын

It can pop all bloom types, and it's faster than u jugg

@owenblount7334

Ай бұрын

It shoots fast af wdym

XBM at the very least needs much higher baseline pierce. If you manage to get some straight line action going on, you should be rewarded well for it. Plus those arrows just look like they should have serious pierce. Heck they could even make it so crits increase the pierce even more. I wouldn't want them to go too far with the buffs though given that it's one of the cheaper T5 upgrades.

@sylvietat

Ай бұрын

itd make the top path crosspath useless

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

It just needs more damage in general since it relies so hard on crits to cleanup cerams

@Kevaca

Ай бұрын

​@@sylvietat looks at xx5 boomer gaining 69 pierce with 2xx:

@worminaround

Ай бұрын

​@@sylvietat you'll be surprised how much t5 towers gets so much pierce with the pierce crosspath.

@SenyiKimmo

Ай бұрын

@@MarcusTheDorkus make the top path upgrades increase crit rate perhaps? To the point that with attack speed buffs it could potentially crit more often than the raw attack speed path in the middle

honestly out of chimps mode crossbow master is just a S tier tower. for basically every game mode you can just save for it till round 50 and then you win cause it easily carries till round 80 or so

@yuricesar9706

Ай бұрын

Good luck on half cash,magic monkeys only or double hp moabs on a true expert

Beast handler: hold my 🦈 🦈 🦈

@meepswag35

Ай бұрын

Actually it’s in like a or b tier I think

@Randomperson10083

Ай бұрын

One of the beast handlers paths are in s tier

@JoelTheParrot

Ай бұрын

orca's great, great white's ok, barracuda's great it's because this is based on a tier list that ranks entire tower paths. that being said i dunno i remember getting use out of megalodon in chimps but not xbow master! (megalodon was on sulfur springs so it's not much achievement)

@JoelTheParrot

Ай бұрын

@@Randomperson10083 yeah but kaboomer means megalodon as an individual upgrade

@marxunemiku

Ай бұрын

handler is good on multi lane maps but is extremely high skillcap and micro intensive

I love crossbow master for deflation. Outside of that mode, it doesn't work well, but it solos 80% of deflation maps on its own.

@CoconutOrNot_

Ай бұрын

Deflation?¿?

@rumlad341

Ай бұрын

@@CoconutOrNot_ Gamemode where you start with a load of cash and have to defeat a range of waves, but without making any more money

@CoconutOrNot_

Ай бұрын

@@rumlad341 no shiiiii Can you even afford xbm on deflation?

@alexanderzhou5561

Ай бұрын

actually i dont think so unless you have double cash

@jasonc7620

Ай бұрын

You used to be able to until they nerfed xbm price, probably less than a year ago. Used to use that for a brain dead deflation win on most maps.

True Sun god with no sacrifices: am I a joke to you? Also true sun god: gets sacrificed to a normal Sun god temple

@sneezywheezyboy1652

Ай бұрын

Did you know a maxed pouakai can pop a bad, but a tsg no sacrifices can't? Damn if I were a 600k tower I would never take that level of disrespect

@dijosto

Ай бұрын

​@@sneezywheezyboy1652what is a pouakai

@procrastinator4009

Ай бұрын

@@dijostobottom Path t5 beast handler

Crossbow master was my main tower when I started this game. I think it’s just because dart is the first tower most players level up, and crossbow is the first tier 5 you unlock generally. Also, the crits go brrrrr. I think a pierce buff and bonus ceramic damage would go a long ways, but they don’t want to undercut the ultra jugg so idk. Doesn’t make much sense to have 2 paths on 1 tower both be ceramic cleanup. Maybe a single target buff would make more sense.

@memeboi69-k3v

Ай бұрын

I think all XBM needs is a higher crit ratio

As a pretty casual player I shall explain the reasoning that crossbow master is popular,: BIG RANGE = YAY (EVEN BIGGER RANGE WITH TOP PATH VILLAGE? YAY!)

@dijosto

Ай бұрын

It's fun

@AltraHapi

Ай бұрын

Bigger = better But average -size- range is good too

@badateverything2931

Ай бұрын

@@AltraHapi what about little range 👉 👈

@youtubeknight53

Ай бұрын

​@@badateverything2931*cough cough* sauda

@AltraHapi

Ай бұрын

@@badateverything2931 it's joever

13:07 Striker cosplaying Quincy😭

I think why it's popular with many players and why I enjoy using it time to time is that it's a fun tower, and relatively affordable. Like sure it's pretty weak for a tier 5, but it's still a tier 5 and if you aren't gping for free play on some maps it can wipe pretty alright.

Don't forget the tier list is based off TOP level play and perfect micro on CHIMPS bloons is balanced in a way where every tower is great the crossbow master struggles on expert chimps maps but hes still great for casual play and where monkey knowalge allows you to get two of them

It has served me well when I was still learning the game and getting the hang of things I dont use it anymore but it will always have a special place in my heart

looking at that tierlist was interesting since I enjoy using a lot of the upper towers' lower tiers like Relentless and Stronger Stim, but the T5s I like are mostly mid tiers, like Glaive Lord, BEZ, Sub Army, Carpet, and Bloon Solver

@yuricesar9706

Ай бұрын

A- is actually pretty good

I also felt as though Crossbow Master's niche was being attractive for new players, and personally, that seems like a perfectly fine place for it. New players love the simplicity and novice/veteran players move on to more intricate towers

If they're going to buff the bottom path, they should give sharp shooter (and therefore crossbow master) a second arrow

the attack speed of tier 3 and 4 is just so horribly low that it's just too inconsistent at actually popping bloons. The crossbow master is like pretty good until round 81 hits, then it suddenly turns into a pumpkin

Crossbow Master’s only real big thing is that it’s cheap and can function decently on its own. However the issue is that the cheapER tier 5s consist of Glue Storm and Tack Zone, generally stronger overall towers

@nuclearwarhead9845

Ай бұрын

Neither of those function well on their own

I love the idea of glaive lord looking down on the crossbrow master like "Look who sucks NOW!"

I use the T4 very often in chimps runs as you have dart monkeys lying around from the start. It handles camo on rounds 33, 37 and 42, and can take a chunk out of the MOAB (or if you're lucky, oneshot all the cerams from it). It's cheap too. XBM is an OK inclusion in primary monkey oriented strats but personally I prefer going for T5 ice and boomer. Overall, if you pay only 26k for a T5 you shouldn't expect miracles.

@CoconutOrNot_

Ай бұрын

And ur wasting 3k on a useless tower...

@madrid_drive_enjoyer

Ай бұрын

@@almightyhydra Prince of darkness has similar costs but is sooo much better, XBM just needs a buff

@DoubleDuck2

Ай бұрын

With a similar amount of money you can get a tack zone, elite defender, glaive lord, and much more that are all better than crossbow master.

@CoconutOrNot_

Ай бұрын

@@DoubleDuck2 edef and glory c9st way more

@madrid_drive_enjoyer

Ай бұрын

@@CoconutOrNot_ Not to be rude but who tf calls glord “glory”😆

Dont mind the TSG being a b tier for chimps even though you LITERALLY CANT GET ONE it costs like 3x the money you make in a whole game

@Kevaca

Ай бұрын

Sun avatars:

Only 2 bad things about XBow master is: Pink bloons and faster cant be hit if theyre shooting parallel to it. If youre not using a p.expertise with it you might as well shelf it. And even w p. Expertise it STILL CANT HIT PINK BLOONS PARALLEL TO IT!

Been stuck on solo chimps on this map for awhile. Thankfully I know how to cheese the early rounds (it's the 90s that are a problem for me and what to save up for), but it physically pains me to see that Isab didn't use Spiked Mines on this map, alch buffed, and cross pathed 4-0-2. That tower *hard* carries the mid-game, and coupled with relentless glue, anything outside of a fortified ZOMG or even just a regular ZOMG won't breakthrough. The reasoning he explained for going 3-2-0 instead of 3-0-2 also doesn't make sense, claiming the ceramic rushes came later in the 40s/50s...which is perfect for spiked mines/balls since they have more time to build up a pile, excluding if any moab class bloons are coming ofc.

@im-possible-1

Ай бұрын

Use druids 014 x5 and 015 x1 with obyn, berserker brew, and homeland defense

If Tier 1s and Tier 2s are included, then Monkeyopolis would definitely escape F tier due to Discount Village. Boat and especially Alchemist might not be lucky. Acid Pool in particular sucks.

@SenyiKimmo

Ай бұрын

ok but that path also has faster throwing which is just really good

@meepswag35

Ай бұрын

@@thealientree3821 the reason they don’t is because I mean just cross path, 202 and/or 022 are pretty good on their own

@OMGoobero

Ай бұрын

Middle beast S+

ISAB doing a fair and even test of a tower in CHIMPS challenge: Impossible

Damn, that dog sure loves to roll on the machines. Silly dog :)

Crossbow master really only works on easy maps where it’s used as a saveup for primary expertise with Moab glue and Moab dom

Can you make a playlist for your black border runs? I'd love to watch all of them but it's kinda hard to find those vids

I bet that giving it a ricochet similar to Quincy would be a good buff, because the top path is already the “straight line to maximize pierce” path, it doesn’t need a second one for the bottom so maybe a ricochet or something would make sense

I think one of the only gamemodes that crossbow master near excels at is half-cash since he's very cheap and can easily take you near or all the way up to round 80 alone

The full quote is "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes is better than a master of one"

@JDraks

Ай бұрын

No, that was added to the saying later to invert its meaning. That's how a lot of those "full" sayings are

@Secretlycat31

Ай бұрын

@@JDraks source?

Crossbow Master’s a fun tower, but that thing? *(Points at Tech Terror)* Is even better!

I can’t believe ISAB didn’t have a part in the tier list

@tristen9736

Ай бұрын

If he did, bottom path village would be next to top path alch

@Kevaca

Ай бұрын

​@@tristen9736 the tier list ranks the tiers 3 TO 5 for the most part The 000 and tier 1/2 are not counted

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

Voters mainly consists of individuals with high expert chimps knowledge and has done a lot of impressive runs

@rmlgaming2091

Ай бұрын

Frankly, ISAB is a bit out of the loop when it comes to high level CHIMPS runs. It's been nearly 5 years since he was on the cutting edge..

lmao i watched Striker jones dog the entire video

@badateverything2931

Ай бұрын

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Inb4 nk buffs the hell out of crossbow master in exchange for changing its damage type from normal to sharp

@Kevaca

Ай бұрын

Ah yes, buff it just to make it bad

2:15 ahh yes *the jungle of the druid* my favourite upgrade

I think the main appeal for the crossbow master is it's pure simplicity and cheapness. Also the other two dart paths are too situational, so whenever i have a dart monkey leftover from early game he always eventually ends up being a crosbow

I always use crossbow master for any game which is ends before round 80 But apart from that and bosses(for paragon) it stinks

A lot of people forget about rounds 60-80 with CHIMPS and bosses being the biggest challenges in the game, but crossbow master is amazing if you're going for any other mode, it can solo all of hard mode on like 90% of maps without any support, and it's pretty much the cheapest tower that can do that. Spectre is close, but it can't see camo and doesn't have quite as much raw damage.

Literally all the Crossbow Master needs is more pierce across the board. That feels like it's biggest issue, at least when I use it.

I don't care how bad it may be, the fact that I can get it in deflation mode makes it all worth it

11:50 RIP in peace

Crossbow Master generally ends up being most first time players first 5 star so it really has a popularity buff for that. When you're first starting out darts are easy to use and with the way tower exp works, you will probably quickly unlock the levels for all three paths and to a newbie bottom path seems like a clear winner. Top path is slow and they've probably not put it on a straight line with a targeting change. Middle path is powerful with an ability, but new players are afraid of abilities not being available when they hit (what they feel) is hard rounds. Bottom path however will shred entire waves except for lead in the early game and fires fast enough that their poor placement won't actually hinder the tower's performance in early maps.

*Nothing gets past my crossbow!* Pink bloon:

I think I've nearly always ended up getting a crossbow master in chimps...

4:10 Sniper Mains: "Exactly."

Primary expertise is really good with the crossbow master

I love the fact that the top path alc is at the top of the tier list, the middle path in the middle and the bottom path at the bottom 😂😂😂

@Kevaca

Ай бұрын

Because buff alch is goat Unstable coc is ok, but only for dense rounds And bma... bma loses money (its chimps) and costs 48k (for the whole thing)

RIP ben being a better chimps hero than obyn😔

X bow master is alright, the only thing where he falls off is like 90s, but he can get you through all of the early game

5:00 My theory is that it's because many new players had it as their first ever tier 5, and it stuck with them for being the first time they got to see a tier 5 in action.

Isn't the Xbow master popularity partially contributed to being the 3rd path added from BTD5, where both Jug and SMFC were quite niche and suddenly Xbow becoming "the default" path?

Crossbow is cracked on most maps up until round 80 (not as much in CHIMPS though). But then really falls off late game pretty hard. But given how cheap it is, it can make mid game easy allowing to save up for a more expensive tier 5, so not too bad overall imo.

@nuclearwarhead9845

Ай бұрын

The problem is 25k is way too much for just a midgame tower- the good midgame towers that cost they much are good because they still do well in late game 4:26

I think a lot of the problems with crossbow master stem from NK assigning it as the "range path", which isn’t super useful most of the time. I think to stand out from the other paths (which both have a niche they fit into) bottom path should have bonus moab damage, or maybe even bonus camo damage since it struggles so much with ddts

Q: What is crossbow master good for!? A: Looking cool 😎

CBM can carry you through a lot of expert maps

Just in time for my pre sleep isab

I don’t know I think cross bow master is good, it’s just people keep comparing it to other towers, the crossbow master is good agaist everything it’s just not over powered. The only one I can agree with is ceramics, and ddts which are meant to be difficult

I have played Chimps mode with at least one crossbow master and I have never lost the late game. Well, I have other towers but one of them is a crossbow master.

I would love if they made the double cross bow master MK be default, so you could get 2 of them in chimps, and change the MK to something else. Itd be pretty pointless but neat.

@D-S-G.

Ай бұрын

If they would do that, they could make it something like a shadowing Crossbow master, where if you get a second one, it buffs the first one.

No way, this guy helps cook everything up to round 85-90 with ease!!!

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

Not on experts

@nuclearwarhead9845

Ай бұрын

Play harder maps then where you don't get straight lines and a ton of track length

2:34 Smooth recovery

I like to use a 032 wiz and 025 dart for 0-80 and just spam 042 supers for 81-100

As a guy that uses this tower all the time I disagree this map is good for him, I actually think it's bad. The bloons move at 2x speed and once they get near him he loses his good hits and you can't take advantage of his range in general here. Sanctuary and Infernal are way better for expert maps.

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

@@RmnGnzlz i mean, not that it matters at the end of the day since xbm struggles on all experts

@RmnGnzlz

Ай бұрын

@@Idc08-xv7qv They should give him Quincy's aimbot, so he would never miss.

@Kevaca

Ай бұрын

Also it's not 2x rate It's +50% speed when the reverse motor is not active

@RmnGnzlz

Ай бұрын

@@Kevaca Ah yeah, still the point was that they get close sooner and that's bad for the BM.

I reccently started trying to get some black borders and getting to know the meta, but for me the primary monkeys (specially bloon solver, xbm and tack zone) with the top path village has been a breeze for almost all maps that have at least one intersection. i really surprised me seein xbm in D tier.

No way! But I did my first 2 megapops challenge with the crossbow master (this was when the achievement first came out)

Need a long straight track and put cbw on last - this thing shredds. and put it just before exit so it shoots bloons and moab at the same time

@nuclearwarhead9845

Ай бұрын

"it's a good tower if you use it on a free map"

I love crossbow master, even if he isn't meta. Perhaps the reason he isn't good is because you can get 2 of then in a non-chimps setting, and if they buff it, that's 2 towers with that buff. How the the hell is XLL trap high if the money making ones are bad.

@wastingtime1441

Ай бұрын

Double gun is great early game, traps do have some viability on multi lane maps when you switch where they are cause they do insta kill cerams and at t5 ZOMGs

@xuansangdotrinh1055

Ай бұрын

XXXL trap has a bug where it can deploy many traps at once.

@BriaBri

Ай бұрын

⁠@@xuansangdotrinh1055he’s asking because xxl trap is pretty bad in chimps because you can’t make money. And it sucking up all of the moab class bloons takes away the money from the pops that you would’ve gotten

@artix4545

Ай бұрын

Xxl trap + a stalling tower = godly

@thealientree3821

Ай бұрын

Traps now no longer make you lose money when you're using it.

I do think crossbowmaster is actually pretty good on anything but round 100 game modes (so basically, most gamemodes), because as you said it can basically solo the first 80 rounds, even without buffs on many maps. With monkey knowledge the upgrade gets cheaper too if all your primary towers are tier 3 or 4. So for ~20k (depending on game mode) I do think it's a really good upgrade to easily beat the rest of the game without any micro. Crossbow Master is bad in Chimps, sure, but as I said, that is just one game modes of many. Apart from pierce I don't even think it needs any buffs really, otherwise it would become even more of an "autowin" upgrade.

I must pose the question of whether xbm ought to be better. It [mostly] gets the job done for cheap and you can have two of it in impoppable etc. and it's a pretty low maintenance strategy.

I think the main thing holding it back is the monkey knowledge allowing you to have 2

CBM is good early game with the high damage and camo, amazing midgame if you can get it, but DOG. WATER. In lategame. It cannot kill super cerams to save its life. If you’re playing hard mode, it’s a good investment, but for chimps and impoppable, there are much better and cheaper options for midgame.

early/mid game on parts with straight paths i find crossbow anything can carry for a long time

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

That's every non expert maps

i would like to see ultra juggernaut try going half as far as crossbow master. aint no way he should be that low on the list.

It is good at its specific purpose which is to be a super cheap t5 to carry mid game while you save for bigger defense. Thing is a beast until mid 70s and you can get it by round 50ish on easier maps.

Master with Gwen was my go to when I started bloons.

“Most tier 5s would’ve had an easier time” Most tier 5s cost more????? I am utterly baffled

@AshenPlayer

Ай бұрын

Yes, and you should be able to save up to them instead of getting the crossbow master since he is not even worth his price tag

I kinda like crossbow master - solid tower for the price that helps transitioning to a better one until mid 80's rounds

Crossbow Master is good mid-game, then TANKS after R80.

@yuricesar9706

Ай бұрын

Not really,has bad self saveup because of sharpshooter and is more expensive than most better midgame options

crossbow master also goated on deflation

It's weird cos I've never lost a chimps run where i use CM. one of my fav t5s

@Idc08-xv7qv

Ай бұрын

Show me an impressive xbm run on true expert maps where the tier list is based on

@madrid_drive_enjoyer

Ай бұрын

@@Cinque27 Can we please stop saying x tower is good on beginner/intermediate maps. Time for megalodon to shine on logs I guess

@Cinque27

Ай бұрын

@@Idc08-xv7qv I'm sorry it wasn't a 1tc on ouch

@Cinque27

Ай бұрын

@@madrid_drive_enjoyer it's not just easy/intermediate maps I use him. I didn't say he was good, just that whenever I've used him I've never had trouble. Idk if he's been nerfed recently or something, but I always thought he's good for the money you pay and use him alot because of this, not to mention the T3/4 are really good for 0-40

@madrid_drive_enjoyer

Ай бұрын

@@Cinque27 Well that’s interesting. The problem with XBM is that its only job is to carry to r80, but some towers (0-4-2 wiz, spectre, apache, combination of cheap tier 3 or 4s, etc.) are better, cheaper or can do stuff during lategame. If you use it casually it will get the job done but on harder maps the money could be better used elsewhere.

Night 15 of watching isab every night before bed

jungle of the druid is crazy

I love using it in my chimps runs :(

@nuclearwarhead9845

Ай бұрын

No one ever said you can't use it it's just bad

Crossbow is more liked by casual pkayers is because its one of the simplest tower, cheap enough to buy before r60, just buy it and it can clean up all sort of bloons, add some buffs,

I am a rather casual player and I always upgrade my starting Dart Tower because it just feels so lonely without being upgraded

what's it good at?: deflation, deflation.

I have an idea, double the crossbow masters base pierce and make top path one shot ceramics

For me I only use the crossbow master for very easy deflation

The only bugf it needs is a second stream of arrows