How to find a good dog trainer: Find a dog trainer with humility, that can point you towards other dog trainers with the confidence that you wont abandon their instruction based on the suggestions. Thank you Joel, I learned some people who I can learn from in addition to you.

Tom Davis is great. Works with a lot of dog aggression.

@karenmacdonald1990

2 жыл бұрын

I would agree. I watch Tom, Robert Cabral, Cesar & now Joel.

@J77199

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say that. However Tom uses prong collars so I imagine Joel wouldn't consider him the goat, but he has videos of him working with the most aggressive dogs I've ever seen.

@Knowall850

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree. Tom Davis absolutely deserved a mention.

@wingnutbert9685

2 жыл бұрын

@@J77199 IMO, If Tom was left off this list because he uses prongs, it would be a sad and telling. Nothing wrong with prongs when used properly on a dog that they are going to be appropriate on, like Tom and others use them. But I'd not assume this as Joel may have had other reasons to leave him off. :)

@nerigarcia7116

2 жыл бұрын

I like Tom's videos. He seems real knowledgeable and successful at treating and training dogs.

Cesar got me into working with aggressive dogs at the local dog shelter, this was 17 years ago. With only watching some Cesar shows I was able to take dog aggressive dogs and get them to walk calmly with other dogs as a volunteer. These were dogs that were being worked with for months with positive reinforcement. The staff was amazed, even offered me a job. Always feel I missed my chance to work with dogs full time. Recently found your channel, and you are absolutely amazing, I say from the eye test you and Cesar are both the GOATS.

@garyburchgb

Жыл бұрын

You were fortunate to have open minded staff that could see the results you could produce and not have tunnel vision, which they tend to have as they view anything other than all positive as unnecessary and cruel. People can be blind to methods that could help them quicker. Also, they don't tend to take in the energy state of the dog after corrections, e.g. Is the dog fearful of the trainer? The answer is generally no if the trainer knows how to do things right.

@Adianodelih

11 ай бұрын

Yes they're both absolute goats! Similar but different and they'd complete One another!

@samwdavis

9 ай бұрын

Jeff Gellman of SolidK9Training... the real deal... tens of thousands of dogs... amazing RESULTS... no TV show. Why is a TV show a requirement in a society that suppresses common sense? He gets RESULTS and uses common sense!!! Let's talk practicality... seriously??? Every dog has to be brought to a special RANCH for rehabilitation??? NO... A trainer should be able to rehabilitate a dog in their environment!!! Don't get me wrong. Cesar has some skill, but it's completely impractical for 99% of people! It's TV folks!!!!

@WendiwooJarmy

5 ай бұрын

Cesar millan!!!!! But he’s not a dog trainer he’s a dog behaviourist THE BEST 🎉

@markbenn1907

5 ай бұрын

You sound gifted in this. I’d say try and make something out of that the world needs it! You didn’t miss you chance, your chance is right now!

Love Cesar. I train my dog 90% with positive reinforcement (with my previous dog I did not have this luxury), and I still have a lot of respect for that guy and learned tons from him. The biggest take-away from his show (that I learned from him WAY before I got into dogs) is that if you want to do right by the dog you have to look at your own behavior and actions first. People try to paint him as someone advocating aversive methods, dominance and corrections and all these things that they see as a negative way to train dogs. But that is not what the general public learns from him. They learn to respect and consider the dogs needs. To be structured and disciplined. And to always look at what you can do differently rather than demanding a change in the behavior of the dog without a matching change in behavior from yourself. If there was one "knock" on Cesar Milan in my eyes, it is that some of his methods can be near impossible to replicate for a non-professional (and impossible for a novice dog owner).

@2SanityAtitsBest2

2 жыл бұрын

Regarding "if you want to do right by the dog you have to look at your own behavior and actions first" - I don't hear this mentioned much at all. I think Cesar's tagline says it though "Better Humans, Better Dogs". I think this is the most overlooked aspect.

@linaulnes8821

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. But you gotta remember for a lot of people it is to uncomfortable to look that honestly at themselfs. Thats why people dont like people who see through them aswell. You see the same with other change in their lifes. They want the goal, but wont face themselfs to go there right. And I think its unfair to the dog to. If I have a shitty day and act like shit, its not my dogs fault. If I am balanced and stand in myself and is fair I can expect them to listen up and find the support they need to be in themslef aswell. Same for my clients, therapy, dog owners, horses. I don't see change from pitty them, but from being real, supportive and calm.

@niftygrower2745

Жыл бұрын

Cesar was known as the “dog kid” in Mexico because he would walk down the street and the stray dogs would follow him around. He was then homeless in San Diego and LA and realized that the dogs would follow him around because he was always walking, always going somewhere and the dogs were attracted to his leadership and wanted to be part of his pack. He became famous because of his prowess and self confidence. He didn’t speak English, had no resources, but he was so impressive that he ended up as the most famous dog trainer in the world. His understanding of the dog mentality is so much more developed than anyone else’s due to the fact that he did it with strays when he first started. The hardest, most skiddish dogs to train. Dogs respond to him better than anyone I have ever seen. The moment he grabs a leash you can see a dog’s attitude change. He’s the most impressive that I’ve ever seen. Also, props to Joel for his “semi humility” 😂

@Catbooks

Жыл бұрын

It's great you use the vast majority of your training as positive reinforcement, as do I, although for me it's more like 98%. But he does advocate for adversive, dominance-based methods, and he's made many mistakes, which unfortunately were disseminated widely to the public due to the popularity of his shows. I WISH the public's takeaway was to better understand their dogs and be calm when teaching them, but it's not. What far too many people took away from him was that their dogs were trying to "dominate" them, and in order to get their "respect," they needed to do things like alpha rolls, which doesn't exist in wolves, dogs, or any other canids, and is detrimental. He also advocated flooding for dogs who've been traumatised, which is a very bad, and harmful, way to go about dealing with a dog who's developed fear. He also has, possibly had, too much ego and control issues that came through in his training. Frankly, I see the same in Joel, although to a lesser degree. I do appreciate that Cesar told people in order to solve whatever behaviour issue they're dealing with with their dogs, they have to look at their own behaviour, because that is 100% true. Being calm is also key, and if that means walking away and ending a session until you're no longer frustrated and can become calm again, it's critically important to do that. I've learned from him, but quite honestly what I learned most from his shows was being able to watch so many dogs in many different situations, and be able to watch and play back the moment things went wrong or changed, and why. Often he caught it, but many times he didn't and misread.

@pittymama4500

Жыл бұрын

This!

Cesar is the reason I want to become a dog trainer! You two are the best in my opinion! ❤️🙏

I watched Cesar Milan for years and this is the only other dog training channel/show that effectively trains REAL dog problems in real time.

@fluemanden3917

2 жыл бұрын

true

@StratMatt777

2 жыл бұрын

I fully agree with that and with the FACT that Joel is the GOAT. Upstate Canine Academy shows most everything too. It's useful if you've just gotten a totally out of control 10 month old 75lb Shepherd who will not respond to anything except receiving 4 or 5 prong collar pops to learn that he WANTS to stop pulling, now and for good! :) That was my first channel, so I'm biased. So so glad I found Joel's channel. I wouldn't have reached the goal of "cracking the dog code" and getting my GSD sorted without several of his techniques, which showed my dog that he is NOT the boss and also helped make all the stuff I've ever watched finally click to reveal the big picture. As of yesterday, I finally realize that I think it is all about leading and directing the dog's focus. Thank you Joel!

Cesar is excellent and introduced me to the pack leader philosophy about thirteen years ago when I got my first dog. However, I have found your videos highly instructive. You're a born teacher and leader. You're humble to take yourself off the list but I still consider you #1 in my books for practical training content.

@hirihiri3229

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree. Love to see and hear Joel!!!!

@BrooklynNY1979

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely NOT humble...

@Faelitu

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you Millie. Cesar can provide you with lots of good theoretical examples and behavior philosophies but Joel just go right to business, hands dirty. It's pretty good to see the adjustments Joel does on the exact moment things happen and explaining what is or might going on.

@jagy3174

Жыл бұрын

“Pack leader” isn’t a thing u don’t need to do that

@flickaJay

Жыл бұрын

@@jagy3174 Yeah? Let me see you allow your dog do anything they want while you just talk and easily convince them how they need to behave towards you and other people. A dog should just naturally look up to humans but some are going to resist just as they do in their own pack in the wild. A dog like that most likely will get killed.

I'm surprised Tom Davis didn't make your list. I think his content is very detailled. Ranking, as you say, is subjective and he's not got the reach of many of the others but I think he helps a lot of folks with some considerable dog issues.

@parisdevine8553

2 жыл бұрын

I agree I put him on the list Tom is awesome no bad dog army

@ginag6328

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Tom is amazing!

@egzon290

2 жыл бұрын

Tom is better than Victoria milion times.

@rainaquelle365

2 жыл бұрын

He handles the worst behavior problems I've ever seen! Very balanced approach.

@davidproctor9079

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would definitely put Tom on my list way before most of those other people. But the best of the best in my opinion lie in the sport dog realm. Ivan Balabanov, Michelle Ellis and Bart Ballon are pretty damn good.

Robert Cabral .... maybe Michel Ellis - worth a real hard look

@desiregrace6701

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely Robert Cabral and Tom Davies 🇺🇸🌺

@monkeeblue

2 жыл бұрын

Robert Cabral is especially good if you're dealing with guardian/working breeds. He's a favourite of mine. We have a Cane Corso and his videos have been helpful because positive reinforcement training only takes you so far with a Corso. You have to have built a very good bonding relationship with your dog to get the best out of them.

@sudaesh

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. They would probably be on the top.

@d1nbala755

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe michel ellis? Guys are you kidding me?

@catalink9

2 жыл бұрын

Cabral work mainly with Shepards. Would like see him training aggressive corsos or presa

Congratulations on being humble , gained major respect in my eyes. Keep doing you 👍

Tom Davis with the Upstate Canine Academy is amazing! Yes, he's a youngster, but he's a natural. He should be on the list. You are amazing also. Robert Cabral also, yes.

The only two dog trainers I watch, I learn from them and enjoy watching and working with my dog with their style is You and Cesar Milan.

Hi Joel, I have watched Cesar for years. At this point and time, Cesar and You are the best. The difference is now a days ,you are up there because you are totally hands on and you keep it real as Cesar did years ago based on technology at the time. Cesar doesn’t do too much as he use to, but may be making a comeback with new show on National Geographic “Better Human Better Dog,” on Friday Nights. So keep up the excellent work I love learning effective ways to continually teach my 4 fur babies.

@peacelove7706

2 жыл бұрын

Just bc you don’t see Cesar on tv/KZread etc…does NOT mean he’s NOT DOING ANYTHING 🤣😂 he owns more than one dog rescues/training places like you see on the show. He’s constantly working to help people and their dogs !

@DOGMAN-ex4is

2 жыл бұрын

@@peacelove7706 i never said he wasn’t doing anything. I said you don’’t see him as much as you use to, but could be changing because of his new show.

@catfish5272

2 жыл бұрын

@@peacelove7706 you’re a banana head. Learn to read better.

@Djee2007

2 жыл бұрын

@@catfish5272 it's not a reason to give people names.

@catfish5272

2 жыл бұрын

@@Djee2007 it’s “call people names” not “give people names” guess what you’re a banana head too

What about Tom Davis? The America’s Canine Educator

@user-ll5eo2ip3z

2 жыл бұрын

@Cr4zy Rogue sorry, but that is wrong. he uses the prong a lot because it works, and he shows the clients how to properly use it. he also uses plenty of other tools ! the prong is one of the best tools and doesnt do as much damage as u might think ! he makes it very clear that the prong is meant for TRAINING. he doesnt say slap a prong collar on ur dog every time u go out.

@littlewigglemonster7691

2 жыл бұрын

@Cr4zy Rogue eeeeh… not really

@Thomas-eo3dy

2 жыл бұрын

problem is that he uses prongs and e collars as a solution for everything. Doesn't even talk about other stuff beyond "eh that's too long to train, here this is quicker" which is highly unprofessional. And he seems like a sellout for these e collar companys, and makes highly manipulative videos about it Helped a lot of dogs, but because of those reasons I wouldn't rely on him for normal dog training. Because he doesn't do that. He only uses prongs and ecollars to provide quick fixes for desperate owners in countries that still allow those tools.

@Thomas-eo3dy

2 жыл бұрын

(that said, i don't agree with some other people on the list as well, this is just the general issue people have with Tom)

@user-ll5eo2ip3z

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thomas-eo3dy he uses a prong because he deals with powerful dogs and he wants the dog to get instant correction. the prong collar is the best tool for that.

My list of favourites are; Jonas Black (K911) Jaqui Zakar (DogSense) Jamie Penrith (Take the lead dog training) Danny Wells (Unleashed K9 Services) Will Atherton (Fenrir) Ivan Balabanov Micheal Ellis Just to make a few, I look up to these guys. ❤️

@Joemol5746

9 ай бұрын

Danny Wells and Jamie Penrith in particular are fantastic shouts, but have to disagree on Will Atherton. He is great for simple beginner tips but seems more of a social media personality now rather than a dog trainer and is silent on anything that could harm his internet persona (E-Collar ban etc)

@possummilk2971

8 ай бұрын

@@Joemol5746 You’ve just brought me back to this and I’ll have to agree with you now. The way he kept silent on the ecollar ban to preserve his own brand is disgusting. Especially since he uses them himself.

@5BReiningHorses

4 ай бұрын

I'll second Ivan Balabanov as a brilliant trainer with innovative techniques and great accomplishments in the dog world. And Michael Ellis who also has a deep understanding of training theory and the application thereof. I would probably also add Robert Cabral to the list as well.

I’ve grown up watching Victoria Stilwell. I think she’s amazing! I also think that you’re amazing. I’m trying to find a balance between you two for my dogs. For me personally, it’s a bit easier to follow your videos because you teach on specific common difficulties with training dogs. You also show the whole process, which is very helpful. God bless

@ara5823

2 жыл бұрын

Vitoria still well is a fraud. And that’s been proven. Turn your back on a dog is absolutely bogus.

@danabosley8698

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t she fake her certification to get attention, and advise numerous dogs to be put down.

@pittymama4500

Жыл бұрын

Many people don't know this but Victoria Stillwell is actually just an actress that started on a show doing what she's doing and was never a dog trainer to begin with.

@tammymcleod4504

Жыл бұрын

@@danabosley8698 yep... she's actually an actress. Worked out she could get her face on the box with dog training, and here we are. She's not a dog trainer's bootlace.

@adriana7310

Жыл бұрын

Don't listen to these ppl trying to spread misinformation. Victoria Stilwell started her career as an actress but then began working with dogs for extra income. Her sister's a Veterinary nurse and Victoria had been dog training for years before she got her show. In fact she had several dog training companies under her belt before she got the opportunity to have her own show.

Cesars technique helped me out of despair when none of my local dog trainers did. But the „Icing of the cake“ is your loose leash technique. I do not want to keep my dog that close to my side all the time as Cesar does. By doing this I just never could relax totally. With the loose leash I started to enjoy owning a powerful but difficult dog. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

@deathbyscope

Жыл бұрын

Caesar always taught to have a loose leash. It was moreso that a tight leash creates tension in the dog but he did teach to not allow your dog to walk in front of you.

@Smk1

Жыл бұрын

i dont know what did this guy watch lol might be a video 😂 probably

My experience with an all positive trainer: 20 dogs and owners in a room that were all barking and being obnoxious and the trainer would say, "You didn't bring enough treats!" Their understanding of operant conditioning was not based on science, rather it was based on their own emotional need and shoveling a shit ton of treats at a dog, who would barf them up in the car!

@teddymills1

Жыл бұрын

I dont understand Positive Training. I might be wrong but I see it as rewarding bad behavior. So if I want more treats let me do more bad stuff. I will happily treat the dog at random when it does good. But dogs value their owners praise even more.

@pittymama4500

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention if you read the daily allowance of treats it is not that many of them that they are supposed to have in one single day! It is not healthy at all and not realistic. I don't want to have to buy that many treats I don't want to have to cook that many treats I don't want to have to reward my dog just to get them to act normal. They do it because I have expectations and they always try to please me. The only time I use treats is when I am first training a behavior like sit or down or stay. That's it. And if you even try to give my dogs a treat while they are out on a walk they're going to look at you like why are you eating! I don't know if it's a side effect of not feeding them outside of the house but my dogs won't eat outside of what I specifically give them to eat and I have one that won't even drink water when we are out I have to feed him ice in order to keep him hydrated. They will not eat any high value anything when they are enjoying themselves or are stimulated in any way.

@SpknTC13

11 ай бұрын

@@teddymills1 Treats are NOT to reward bad behavior. You apparently have not been watching the trainers. I suggest to go back and watch again. Even Beckman uses treats.

Tom Davis definitely deserves to be on this list he is incredible. Definitely my #1

@lilnessy

2 жыл бұрын

I love Tom too, but longevity is key on this list

@littlewigglemonster7691

2 жыл бұрын

@@lilnessy unfortunately Longevity doesn’t mean shit lol

@marcusmize9636

2 жыл бұрын

I think that being a good dog and human educator is paramount

@lilnessy

2 жыл бұрын

@@littlewigglemonster7691 this list is called greatest of all TIME, so longevity is the main criteria! Tom can get into the "me too list" he'll be qualified for that one!

@User7688.--_

2 жыл бұрын

The list of criteria to be on the list is also those trainers that do not use prong collars, collars, shock collars, etc. So many people missed that point. 🤔

The two that I’ve learned the most about dog training are Cesar and You!!! Just amazing advice always!!! I’d give you both first place!!! 💁🏻‍♀️🥇

I like Cesar. He clearly has a natural gift, but thats also the problem. His natural charisma and connection is not a system that can be easily taught to others.

@cynthiakarkeys

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, agreed! Trying to glean from Cesar, staying calm, relaxed and in control... it’s so difficult to emulate. I find Joel’s teaching so much easier to follow because Joel instructs us and helps us to develop our timing and intuition over our dogs. Cesar just is. Which is why he’s the goat.

@disco3landrover654

2 жыл бұрын

Training dogs is easy, training people is way harder!

@tl5404

2 жыл бұрын

@@disco3landrover654 haha yes, totally sounds like what Cesar would say or express through his facial expression! Haha. Part of the education and fun I get from watching him is learning how he deals with the dog AND the human. Haha.

@dower85

2 жыл бұрын

Hence why he is the GOAT. He set todays doggie paradigm. It's like Einstein, Tesla, or any other scientist/inventor who change the way we see the world. We can never be them but we can try to replicate their work.

@ananyaratnakaran391

2 жыл бұрын

@@disco3landrover654 you said it bro. I find this true 7 times out of 10.

100% Tom Davis atleast deserves top 5

@jdo2574

2 жыл бұрын

too young and not enough years compared to the competition

@donnachong7814

2 жыл бұрын

Uses the prong collar too much!

@User7688.--_

2 жыл бұрын

You may have missed one of the five criteria to make it on Joe’s Best Goat list. The trainer does not use prong collars, collars, shock collars, etc.

@1234lowkey

2 жыл бұрын

Tom Davis got his knowledge from Robert Cabral. I like Davis but Cabral should absolutely be on this list.

@kevinthorp6982

2 жыл бұрын

@@1234lowkey Both of the best trainers out there. I've been able to trained Huskies thanks to them.

I think this is a great list, and rundown on all of those who made it. My ONLY opinion, is that Tom Davis should have also made this list. I have watched many dog training videos over the years, and since finding yourself and Tom Davis in the last few months or so, I have found myself learning and able to make so much progress with my dog! I am so thankful for both of you. You are both unique, and I understand he uses more 'tools'.... but I have taken alot from you, him, and Zak George, (and of course cesar) and found my own way using a combination of all of your skills as a whole. So thank you to all of you for helping to guide me in the right direction so that my dog and I can have a a more stress free life, filled with communication, understanding, and respect. I am even starting a new job as a dog trainer/doggy daycare assistant because of all of the knowledge and confidence I have gathered, thanks to you all!!! Keep up the great work!! You're changing lives for the better. What a beautiful accomplishment! Everyone on this list deserves a huge pat on the back!!! (As well as Tom Davis aka Upstate Canine Acadomy) Cheers to you all!!!

I watch Cesar's channel and your channel. The only ones! The most knowledge that I've seen so far. Thank you and keep up with the good work! Greetings from Romania 👋🙌

I use only two channels for references. Yours and Upstate Canine Academy.

@rizewithme1928

2 жыл бұрын

I use both as well as well as Nate Schoemer his channel is organized far better than any trainers I have seen, his style is a little goofy, but I have really fine tuned my own training through these guys. But the greatest of all time for me hands down is William Garrido with dogtrainingismypassion he is deep in the PSA scene and has written a few books. I met him and his dog and he's on a different planet with his training.

@smash4236

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah!!! I just commented that I think Tom Davis should have made this list as well!!

Omg loved this video! I checked out Gary Wilkes and he has a lot of agility training videos which is something I want to work on with my schnauzer with :) thanks Beckman!! All great trainers! And you the GOAT 🙌🏼

dissagree, ive watched both you and cesar, and i have about 2 y experience exotics training mainly capuchin monkeys, and i just recently got into dog training a few years back and I personally think you are the goat, the way you have helped me with my job through these YT videos is crazy and i cant thank you enough. earned my sub and likes easily, all i needed to see was one of your videos to know that you damn well know what you are doing.

@User7688.--_

Жыл бұрын

Cool review...😊

I agree that Cesar Milan did change the game when it comes to dog training/rehabilitation. It’s hard to apply his training techniques because I think a lot of his teaching comes from a natural gift and being around animals his whole life (I don’t think he took any “formal” training class). I love his approach to creating and achieving balance with each dog. To me, his teachings goes beyond dog training. I’ve been watching your KZread videos for a few months and think you’re a great trainer.

@whatevergoesforme5129

7 ай бұрын

He's a natural and for me, this gift and actual experience with dogs are a lot better than all the so-called science or studies being touted by the positive only trainers. It is experience vs book learning and sometimes studies can be flawed, especially when funded by organizations with vested interest which is happening now in medicine and veterinary science.

Michel Ellis needs to be at the top 3.

@rlojek

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏼 ... Michael Ellis is legend.

@andrewoliver2252

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely,,,can’t understand why he is not on the list!

I feel like Thomas Davis is coming up hot to be on this list. I've been quite impressed with your videos and found myself checking out some of his. He actually used an E-collar in a very unique way on a mastive.

@pittymama4500

Жыл бұрын

That's why Tom Davis is not on the list is because he uses a lot of equipment and tools. The goat is someone who does not need all of that.

I adore your training style but I really thought Robert Cabral should be on the list. I’ve learned as much about my Malinois from him as I have from you. He works with shelter dogs, has a training school and a great you tube channel. I watched him as well as Larry Krohn until I found you. Your channel keeps the “another channel drama” out and I love that. I’m here to learn and develop the best relationship with my dog that I can!!

@whatevergoesforme5129

7 ай бұрын

I like Robert Cabral's stance on genetics that so many dog trainers, especially the positive only ones, keep denying. There is a reason why breeders had bred fighting dogs with natural instincts to bite hard and not let go and will fight till the end (death) when they see another dog (or even humans).

Hi Joel! I started out watching a ton of 'It's Me or the Dog' over quarantine and fell in love with dog training. I agree with a good amount of what Victoria does, but I agree it would be helpful if she showed the whole process on her show. I found you this past year and think you're definitely one of the best! I watch her for a lot of the more basic commands and general strategies, but as far as aggression and reactivity, I definitely think your method is faster and actually deals with the problem better. I will check out more of Cesar Milan's stuff now, as I haven't really watched him before. Love the channel! My 11 week old long coated GSD Colt thanks you as well!

The goat we didn't think we need! Still great to learn dog training ways from all aspect and methods.

@tash2166

2 жыл бұрын

Agree

@UNDERDOGMMA

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll just take the method that works the best and from what I’ve seen, Cesar and Joel’s methods are undeniably effective.

Hi Joel. Absolutely agree with you. I’d rate you a close second to Cesar, though I’ve not seen Gary’s work. The pure positive guys talk a lot but don’t do what you guys do. Keep up the great work 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

So many others missing from this list IMO. Robert Cabral Stonnie Dennis and George :) Micheal Ellis Shield k9 Tom no bad dog Davis Mike Rittman Can learn much from all these individuals.

@koopspook

2 жыл бұрын

im assuming you mean Mike Ritland because i looked up the rittman guy and his videos were more workout oriented

@smartcanis

2 жыл бұрын

Michael Ellis is not a goat. He's a godfather of dog training.

@beevie4081

2 жыл бұрын

Stonnie is my favorite, but I think Joel would cross him off quick because he doesn't focus on aggression. Looks like Joel's top trainers take terribly socialized dogs and make them passably socialized, whereas Stonnie takes passably socialized dogs and turns them into highly socialized adventure dogs.

@riojimatsuoka

Жыл бұрын

Larry Krohn. Cesar is not a dog trainer.

Very interesting video Joel! I’d have added Robert Cabral to the list, he works with difficult dogs and is a balanced trainer. I use his videos and yours to work with my GSD!

@Adrian-yv1te

2 жыл бұрын

Same here and Tom Davis

@westernefficientenergy902

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Robert Cabral

@NE_Pigeons

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same!! Robert Cabral was my go-to guy for videos on training, but I am now enjoying Joel's videos as well. He has some interesting approaches that differs from Robert Cabral.

@mamadude505

Жыл бұрын

I like Robert, too.

@Gurminder_S

11 ай бұрын

What’s your views on Robert Cabral?

Who I follow: Cesar, Larry Crohn, Tom Davis and Joel... I watch all 4 and take in as much info as I can from all 4. All 4 are no nonsense. All 4 are very upfront about the fact, that in many cases, the owner also needs to be trained. All 4 are great at explaining why purely positive training won't work in most circumstances, not all, but most. Very happy to have found all 4!!!

I’m not too familiar with dog training but I’ve been able to learn from you the most. As far practical advice that WORKS. Joel, you are the GOAT.

The knowledge I got from Cesar Milan made it possible for me to rescue a 2 year old Doberman who had been passed around between owners....bad health, bad genetics, bad behaviors etc. Because of Milan, I felt confident we could turn her life around. We did. I give credit to Cesar....but I enjoy watching your channel. I think it's a great commonality that you both rely on your 4 footed helper-trainer when you need to...for that you both have a place in my heart.

I still love Victoria though, and what I really like on her channel is she reviews her old episodes and gives updated criticism on her techniques. Think that's really cool. And i do like Cesar Milan, he is the first show that made me look at my dogs in a different way and showed me what awesome bonds you can have!

@seanoconnorshalloffamedogt5910

2 жыл бұрын

I think a problem is that training philosophies become so isolated in their biased axioms when in contrast we can just ask, what has this or that trainer contributed to the "bag of tools" so to speak. I mean, let's face it: Stilwell does a great job showing what CAN be done with positive reinforcement, meanwhile Millan shows something frankly very, very intuitive. Mr. Beckmann in my opinion is the most articulate, honest, transparent, and helpful.

@mialeroux2943

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanoconnorshalloffamedogt5910 hundred percent agreed with your comment completely :).

@elizabethjameson3231

2 жыл бұрын

I like Victoria, too, though I surprise myself by doing so. She'd be easy to dislike if you only concentrated on the purely positive aspect, but she's shown over a bunch of episodes with aggressive, large dogs that she understands when a different approach becomes both necessary and suitable. I admire her willingness to be flexible on such a divisive issue in pop culture. She's a class act.

@Poetrybyseanoconnor

2 жыл бұрын

@@elizabethjameson3231 can you recommend any episodes or video footage of Victoria working with aggressive dogs. I’ve seen a few but I’m curious how exactly she handles them and what she says about it

@Poetrybyseanoconnor

2 жыл бұрын

I think one other thing Victoria does well is push a person to question as to whether they are being too gentle and too harsh and why/why not

I love how respectful yet honest you are!

I love Cesar and have new respect for you, Joel. You ROCK! Keep up the great work!

Absolutely love Cesar. Exercise, discipline and affection in that order is something I learned from him and try to keep in mind. Watched the guy growing up and it really changed my mindset on dog training but truth is he just doesn't do as much as he used to. Who knows, maybe you'll have your own show one day too? I see the similarities between you and him.

@virginiascallions2825

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I hope you will have your own show REAL soon. What I have learned from you has helped train my Great Pyrenees and Black Labrador mix. He is not as goofy and doesn't jump hardly anymore.

I love Victoria, she is amazing at assessing the dogs behavioural issues AND the owners. Definitely the best dog 'owner trainer' around. Also the first trainer i saw use a front clip harness

A lesser known is Luke Evans from Doggy Daycare Farm Trips. He is a Veteran of Australia Special Forces. He has a totally different take but is very well liked and respected. The dogs he trains are well behaved and love being around other dogs.

@TheFarmForDogs

Жыл бұрын

Wow Ann, thank you. Very kind of you to say so. We follow Joel too and love this video. 🙏 Luke

What about Robert Cabral? Tom Davis?

@adzgaming5324

2 жыл бұрын

Robert's on my list for sure, guy has a great method and info

Tyler Muto and Larry Krohn! I also enjoy watching Stonnie Dennis. I like the concept of moving into different physical spaces with dogs to create pack behavior and build trust. It's one of the main reasons I clicked into your channel. To see your yard set up and how you use it. As a newbie (3 years in) trainer I absorb every video you put out.

@leeferguson2140

2 жыл бұрын

Larry Krohn is excellent

@logansilva8017

Жыл бұрын

I agree, Larry krohn is excellent, and so is Robert Cabral. I also really like Michael Ellis.

Nice video Joel. Personally, I would have put Micheal Ellis and Tom Davis on that list before a couple of the other mentioned trainers, but Cesar has been a long time favorite for years. Keep up the good work!

New to training a dog and getting all my info from youtube and your stuff is the best

I love watching you and Cesar both!! Great video

The Dog Daddy a.k.a Augusto . He's also a commendable trainer, although young and famous (deserves it as he's worked accordingly). Do check him out! Might not be in the game bus he knows things that trainer should know and he has what it takes!

I do like Cesar Milan, but only because of what he can do with dogs. His videos leave a lot to be desired when it comes to training tips. While his videos do offer some help, they often still leave a lot unexplained when it comes to reading a dog's body language accurately, why the dog is reacting the way it is and what he is thinking, and what a certain training tactic conveys back to the dog in a specific moment. This is all very important for a trainer to be effective. Joel conveys all of these things in his videos, and I appreciate that so much! Joel is number one in my book!! A couple videos that I would love to see him do would be: 1. How to deal with an aggressive dog that approaches you and your dog on the street and 2. The safest way to break up a dog fight for people who are multiple pet owners.

I would add to this list Tyler Muto, Bryan Agnew, and Michael D’Abruzzo. No one is putting stuff out on here like you though. Respect thank you for the content! I have learned so much, look forward to working with you in September.

@atama17

2 жыл бұрын

Mike is awesome.

@wingnutbert9685

2 жыл бұрын

I like Tyler, but on his Consider the Dog channel, they feature an ad promoting some BS leather choke chain and make complete nonsense claims about the dogs response to the 'feel' of leather. It's laughable and sadly discredits him somewhat IMO.

You and Cesar both teach us how dogs think, what their body language means, and what they need from us to be happy, well-adjusted, true to themselves and welcome members of society. I'm retired from teaching and from raising my own kids. Everything you and Cesar teach resonates with me about bringing up good kids. Use only age-appropriate training. Fit the training to the personality. Reward good behavior, never bribe. Punish bad behavior, never abuse. Don't react in anger. Be a calm, confident pack leader. Use happy talk but not baby talk. A command is not optional. Stop the hysteria before it starts. So many good lessons!

I love Cesar for his ability of reading a dog in such natural way.

I love Cesar but your channel is still more face to face and I like your direct talk to 'us'. Your voice-comment overlay is awesome and u get down on questions asked in the comments which shows that u are investing a lot of time into this. Daily updates, examples, explanations make it even better. I think it's time for Beckman's Tshirts. :D

I have watched Cesar from the start when he was a quite younger version of his self now, and also his personal development. To me he is the master because he is the one with the most natural attitude, training people who MAKE dogs difficult, and rehabilitating dogs. The focus is on the wrongdoing of the human NOT the animal. In nature in a pack of dogs, each individual is balanced ... or the pack takes care of it immediately. When I lived on a finca in Spain I had 16 large dogs and 2 small ones, and they lived together beautifully according to their rules in nature. Cesar hardly needs tools (except for his string / leash), and his approach is what would happen in nature in a pack. He also NEVER has belittled fellow trainers in public but he does his own thing. It tells me a lot about trainers when they belittle other fellow trainers in public ...

U are such and honest guy and it takes Real to recognize Real.

Agree 100%!! Cesar is tops! I’m no trainer and don’t try to be but I live in Thailand and there are a ton of aggressive street dogs. I work in the rural villages and the kids are terrified of the street dogs. I use the techniques and teach the kids I’ve learned watching Cesar and reading his book and they never mess with me or my kids. I’m learning so much from you as well! You put it in much more comprehendible terms. I like your dogs teaching dogs technique as well. Cesar does this but not on equal footing with the other techniques like you do.

I guess you missed Tom Davis from Upstate canine academy, check his channel. He is really amazing and works aggressive dogs too. Also where is Michael Ellis? Awesome trainer. You are great man. Your channel is on my top list. Thanks a lot for telling the world dominance IS a thing.

Hi Joel. I think that Will from the Fenrir Canine Show should be on the last too, maybe not on top but right up there with the others. He works on leash reactivity and behaviour modification.

@kwaynesatuckle5631

2 жыл бұрын

I like him as well

@elly6136

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Will Atherton. He is great ❤️

@josegutierrez7898

2 жыл бұрын

Will from fenrir canine and Tom davis from American canine educator are some of the best on KZread

@Lydiadragonbourne

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to comment this 😁

@Marlerc11

Жыл бұрын

and he has more subs than Joel haha

Too many people call themselves dog trainer experts when they only work with generally well balanced dogs. You gotta do the hard cases too.

@seanoconnorshalloffamedogt5910

2 жыл бұрын

Amen! I would add that there's a weird classist element. Like, assuming only the rich had dogs, maybe Victoria Stilwell would make more sense universally, but in a world where there are so many orphan dogs, do we include the less wealthy as viable owners, and if so, what resources are available to them so that they can give their dogs the best life possible, even if they can't gain access to Stilwell's gifts or Cesar's ranch even? Frankly, I want to know how much I can train a dog non-aversively as possible with as few resources as possible. This in my view is the key practical consideraration. I'm biased because I work at a daycare with minimal resources and a lot of dogs, several of which are aggressive, and Stilwell doesn't even apply, meanwhile, according to the school where I'm training to be the trainer, I get the impression that their view is that Cesar's approach doesn't fly. Or yours, Joel, in that I feel you are willing to say when we have to be aversive, whereas my school, bless them truly, don't deal directly enough with the fact that one is better positioned knowing how and especially WHEN to be a bit aversive. It's one thing to say that aversive should be the last option and quite another to explain what makes for a situation where sadly aversive action is frankly better than non-deterring "positive reinforcement" or consulting with the LIMA board, et cetera

Tom Davis and Robert Cabral are excellent candidates for the GOAT

New dog owner here. We started out watching Ceasar when we were looking for guidance but quickly moved to Zak. Learned a lot from his channel and got the whole family interested in the training process. Six months later, the kids have moved on and here I am... on this channel. Not enough depth of content here yet, but thanks to your methods, we've got the basics down pat. Looking forward to more.

Honestly as a show Cesar's show may be interesting with lots of different cases, but you can't learn as much from him as from you. So keep up the great work.

Cesar Milan hands down! I apply his teachings to my dog and other dogs I meet and they work wonders. He also addresses the humans and their energy.

You might make the GOAT soon! I love the humility and I love your videos! Thank you for what you do it matters to so many people!

Cesar Milan is the GOAT. He not only fixes dogs - he teaches humans how to be more confident and live in the moment. He also brought dog behavior to mainstream society. Cesar Milan is the face of dog training.

We can call you the greatest Joel😁

@User7688.--_

2 жыл бұрын

Have you noticed that people are missing one of the criteria for making the Best Goat list is that they do not use prong collars, collars, etc.

@KingsMom831

2 жыл бұрын

@@User7688.--_ Yes, of course! LOL I like your new channel name!

@KingsMom831

2 жыл бұрын

I think that’s one of my favorite things about Joel‘s methods, they are easily attainable by regular, every day folks and you don’t need any special equipment. Other than the fact that he might recommend a gentle leader or something like that.

I really enjoyed this!

For me you have the simplest, most effective and humane methods. I like Cesar, he's fun to watch and inspirational. I have learned a lot from both you and him, but I only found out about him because of you, so you're still the GOAT for me.

Thanks to Cesar Milan's videos I was able- and had the confidence- to turn a 6 month old excited dominant rottweiler-dobermann mix into a happy, no problem dog.. The man is a treasure

Very true and great video !! Could not agree more with you on this!! And the best bit with Cesar is he says he is not a dog trainer !! He trains the human and rehabilitate the dog !! As he believes 99% of the time its the human thats the issue !! I love your vids as well because ive tried some your techniques and they work !! Can't argue with that !!

Laffing so hard...ok nobody asked and my opinion is right. The best! The Beckmans rock. Thank you guys for all your time spent sharing expert advice with us all. It is making such an impact on the lives of dogs and their owners. Bosco and Prince are amazing to watch and truly a reflection of training and great care of their family.

This is so helpful. A complete guide to the state of thought and practice wrapped up in a fun top 10 list.

Such a good video today! Mad respect for your work. I appreciate Victoria because she admits when a method works better and how her training evolves. Cesar ? Yes absolutely the best at training humans so much so that I bought his mercy ha ha " trust.respect.love” all day long!!

Micheal Ellis has some really good vids. And i really like the way Zak teaches stuff. He never gets angry or annoyed.

Any thoughts on Will Atherton? Fenrir canine training.

@MinecraftKlepacz

2 жыл бұрын

Will is really good.

In my humble opinion, you are the GOAT. I can understand and connect with your instructions in every video. I get results in one training session with solidified habits in two weeks of training. You break it down and make it easy. My husband was so impressed and has seen huge results with our puppy in a short amount of time after trying so many other trainers advice for months and months (little results before finding your videos). Thanks for keeping it real!

Cesar Milan is definitely the goat. I learned so much from watching his videos. Lots of idiots tried to discredit his work and techniques. He went through a hard time for a while but I’m really pleased that he as bounced back. TYLER MUTO is another brilliant dog man Very calm and confident and I love his technique of the pack walks.

OK. Gotta say how GREAT you are in being able to be humble enough yet realize how amazing you are at this to endorse Cesar. I'm a fan of his too, however I'm drawn to your no nonsense,, let's be real approach. I try to do that in my live as a teacher. I think I might switch to dog training . lol Former teachers should be ok at training dogs, don't ya think? Anyway. Love your vids. Thanks again

Not sure about raw training skill, but from an educational perspective, I feel you are the GOAT. Cesar has thought us much, and his industry presence and the awareness that he brought to dog behaviour is on a scale all of its own, but ultimately the ability to communicate, provide completely unedited clips, repeating information in a clear and concise way, reiterating and rewording the logic presented, and providing reasonable solutions to everyday problems and showing your own personal experiences with clients is unparalleled. You give access to an elite and professional level of training to people like me who would never have any other opportunity to learn about these things given I work in a completely separate field (IT Industry), am European from a small country with limited resources. You provide us all this top tier instruction at the only the cost of ads, which are negligible, and sometimes hilarious, like the Circe du Soleil ad that showed up when you had a client who worked in there and you offered him a job 🤣.

@BDTraining

Жыл бұрын

Are you serious? A CDS add showed up during that video? That’s crazy.

Cesar is one of the best and he makes many Mexicans feel proud!! 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

You da GOAT! You have preserved what little sanity I have left with my half GSP rescue! I would really appreciate a video on what to do with the dog that barks in the car. My dog barks at people in cars next to us, people walking their dogs etc. etc. Thank you for all your very formative videos!

Hi Joel- enjoying watching your videos! Huge fan of yours. Question: what do you think about Upstate Canine, Tom Davis? I know he is relatively young, but ton of aggressive dogs, looks real. Would be curious to know your thoughts on this.

My guy if you’re not 1st you go on 2nd. Appreciate your work

Cesar Milan is who I watched, read and learned how to become a better dog owner. But also have nothing but respect for the people on the list that I recognized.

I’ve only seen this now. I think it’s great that you have recognized Cesar Millan’s contribution. He did change the game. I think you are a great trainer/behaviorist, and are following in his footsteps. You have different styles, but you both have the ability to sense what’s motivating the dog, to gain its trust, and to apply techniques selectively to get the desired result. It takes both confidence and humility to recognize another’s abilities. This makes me respect you even more.

I have followed Cesar for years and yes I agree he is amazing and definitely talented, but for me your training videos are easier to follow and they just make sense.

Should check out Michel Ellis he's a really good balanced trainer with leerburg.

@GusI727

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to write this. Michael Ellis School for Dog Trainers based in Sonoma County Ca.

@LunaTemari

2 жыл бұрын

Was going to mention him too

I started (when I had problems with a couple of my dogs, and a friend recommended the Cesar Milan programmes) with Cesar, and watching his shows taught me that I had to learn to be a calm, assertive, leader. It worked, and I managed to stop the problem between the two dogs. So I'm happy that you agree that (so far) Cesar is the GOAT. Having said this, nowadays I have different (serious) problems with one of my adopted dogs, and watch your youtube videos.

@liisaks1

2 жыл бұрын

When I was forced to adopt my American Bully XL, I quickly realised we had problems. I visited a very good dog trainer on Phuket. His advice was to preferably find someone else to adopt him, or spend a lot of money (that I couldn't afford) on leaving him there for a few weeks to train him out of his food aggression towards other animals etc.. I've adapted my life around him, but still can't entirely trust him..... He attacked his 'best friend' small dog, when my small dog found a worm......! To be clear, I trust him entirely with me - just not other animals......

Thanks for putting this out there and for acknowledging Cesar’s work

I used to love Kikopup channel, learned a lot about shaping like you said especially about tricks and puppy stuff. But when I started to see issues in my working breed dog, didn't see anything worthwhile there sadly :/

I also have watched cesar since he was televised and he is one of the greatest and like you one of the most honest too. You are for me up there with him, but lets not forget Tom Davis. All 3 of you are my go to bibles for all my needs. I check out others but for flat pack honesty and real deals...its you 3. 👍😁😉 never stop doing what you do it would be depression for all of us. 😊

@karenelizabethjames4703

2 жыл бұрын

Joel = GOAT 🐐 period!!!

One of the biggest things in my mind contributing to someone's greatness in dog training are the trainers who can handle the hardest cases...I don't know these names....but I do know of u and cesar...and you 2 are awesome

Always have enjoyed the Books by The Monks of New Skete and their training techniques. If you physically able to...tethering a puppy to yourself and going about life in your home,was a great way to get your dog to instinctively learn to follow you and be with you! Seldom hear that tip mentioned. And yes,not everyone is physically fit enough to do it.

Tom Davis, upstate canine, think he is very good ,deals with aggression, young guy, and he is quite funny in a very matter of fact kinda way.

Can I just say... We all knew it would be Cesar!!

Victoria Stillwell videos are sooo fascinating to watch because they really lay things out where you see the connection between what the OWNERS are doing wrong and thus what behaviour occurs in the dog. Jas was a gamechanger for me as well for concepts like what motivates dogs, that they're looking for 'jobs', and that you need to establish yourself as a leader. My personal experience before I got my first dog(who I had since he was a puppy) is that I needed to consume information the way Victoria + Jas was laying it out. They're perfect for 'beginners' in that sense. When you sort of get to the 'intermediate' stage of understanding dogs, it's where ppl like you and Cesar really supplement the information in the way you need to consume it. You essentially level up ones understanding of dog psychology.

I have to agree with the others who say that you and Cesar are by far the best. Your take cake charge, no nonsense (yet calm), practical approach has yielded true results for us and our Boston ( who I swear is part Tazmanian devil, lol). Thank you for taking the time to produce these videos!!! 😃