Is Angry Birds a rip-off of Crush the Castle? - Flash Series History | Flashlight

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A reloaded look at the history and creation of a wee little series: Angry Birds, and the hit Flash game series, Crush the Castle. Maybe you've heard of it? Where does the original Angry Birds fall in terms of inspiration vs rip-off?
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Crush the Castle from Armor Games was a smash hit online game! The first of many games in this series has managed to earn 27 Million plays on the Armor site alone!
But, shortly after, Angry Birds came along. A game which was bought and installed 500 MILLION times!! It's considered one of the most successful, best selling games of all time.
The problem is, it pretty well replicated Crush the Castle beat-for-beat. So in this episode of Flashlight, I want to take a closer look at the development history of Crush the Castle and Angry Birds, and help shed some light on how these games came to be.
The story takes a few unexpected turns, and I think this video paints a fascinating picture of of inspiration, and allows us to compare who really rip-off ed who, if anyone?
00:00 Intro
00:52 vs Angry Birds
08:04 Castle Clout
09:44 Crush the Castle
10:49 Crush the Castle 2
13:13 Player Packs & More
16:30 Crush the Castle Adventures
19:50 Crush the Castle: Siege Master
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  • @2leftthumbs
    @2leftthumbs3 жыл бұрын

    This video was first made 2 years ago. I ended up not updating much. I mostly changed a bit of phrasing that had to do with timelines (ie. Angry Birds Movie 2 wasn't out yet). I also stitched in comments from Joey Betz that I found in an AMA. I think those comments straight from the dev added a lot! I know I said Fancy Pants was going to be the next episode, but I had to push that one pack. For... Reasons. But it's going to be worth it!

  • @lgpa565

    @lgpa565

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its a great video

  • @Zander2212

    @Zander2212

    3 жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on Epic Battle Fantasy. That was one of my favorites growing up.

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Zander2212 I would love to at some point! I need to come up with a strategy though. Playing 100s of hours of that series for a single video would be a LOT of work!

  • @Zander2212

    @Zander2212

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@2leftthumbs Understandable. My best suggestion would be to ask anyone who has done a Let's Play if you could borrow some footage (though I'd suggest making your own footage for some of it). Or, since they're so big, you could do a series like Henry Stickman. I don't know if either of those are feasible though, just spitballing.

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Amphibia Bird The timing of that is pretty crazy!

  • @petrmatko6628
    @petrmatko66283 жыл бұрын

    Man I completely forgot about that old game Crush the castle. I only remember playing a hacked version with my brother and throwing black holes everywhere lol.

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've never seen that. Sounds kinda great!

  • @Shyguymask
    @Shyguymask3 жыл бұрын

    I'll admit I had no idea that Crush the Castle itself was inspired by older games. You know more about Flash than I do.

  • @DecisionsRQuestionable

    @DecisionsRQuestionable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @keith_24

    @keith_24

    3 жыл бұрын

    hmm

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the vote of confidence! I take pride in my flash history knowledge :) But if it were to come down to a battle of Flash gaming skill? I think you'd have me beat every time xD

  • @Ceptle

    @Ceptle

    3 жыл бұрын

    hey its that guy

  • @johnremizeztomilloso158

    @johnremizeztomilloso158

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ceptle Your not that guy Beltran trust me your not that guy! 😐

  • @runktheruler
    @runktheruler3 жыл бұрын

    Crush the castle's fire bombs were like crack cocaine to my baby 7 year old brain

  • @Bandan-Artson
    @Bandan-Artson3 жыл бұрын

    Here's my idea for the next Flashlight video: Eddsworld. I think it will be cool to know about the history of this internet masterpiece.

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely I'd love to sometime! It'll be tricky. I'd want to be very delicate about that one, and make sure it's all framed and presented appropriately

  • @Punykirby
    @Punykirby3 жыл бұрын

    I remember Crush the castle, that brings back memories

  • @lunarscales_
    @lunarscales_3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly my 3rd fav flashlight episode (right behind pico and tankmen). Good job, as always Graeme. You never cease to impress me.

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Max! Glad to hear the quality feels maintained :)

  • @lunarscales_

    @lunarscales_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@2leftthumbs no problem ;)

  • @elitebarbarian1903
    @elitebarbarian19033 жыл бұрын

    Toothpaste + Orange Juice= *DEATH*

  • @wantedbird55srandomchannel28
    @wantedbird55srandomchannel282 жыл бұрын

    I do find throwing birds at walls more enjoying than stones, but I will respect the foundation of my favorite game.

  • @VampPhoenix99
    @VampPhoenix992 жыл бұрын

    I remember HATING Angry Birds when it came out because I loved Crush the Castle and I thought it was a ripoff lol.

  • @ajaykasar6638

    @ajaykasar6638

    4 ай бұрын

    The hypocrisy is crazy, even crush the castle is a ripoff of castle clout.

  • @TheNirski
    @TheNirski3 жыл бұрын

    You should do a flash light video about epic battle fantasy

  • @colorpow2668

    @colorpow2668

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man i used to play those games all the time

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would love to! I just need an opportunity to play all the games through first, which I know will take a very long time.

  • @Cishsun
    @Cishsun3 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried the rusty lake series? Seems like the perfect game to analyze, the games are also pretty cheap when they're on sale on steam. 10 of the games are cube escape games, and can be played on a flash emulator instead(although they are slightly different to the steam release, but I don't think any changes important to the story were made). Also, always liked armor games as well, when I was younger it was the site I always went to for flash games. I remember playing so much bubble tanks.

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I definitely want to go deep on the Rusty Lake series sometime! I know it will be a serious commitment to stitch it all together, so I am saving it for when I have more time

  • @teamfourstarsvegeta7818
    @teamfourstarsvegeta78183 жыл бұрын

    God crush the castle was my absolute game as a kid

  • @weebinit8011
    @weebinit80113 жыл бұрын

    Angry birds give me a lot of nostalgia sad that's rovio destroyed it

  • @aka2384

    @aka2384

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me to, it was my faworite game when i was a kid. I still have a lots of angry birds plushies in my home.

  • @weebinit8011

    @weebinit8011

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aka2384apes/małpy together strong -wow that's pog

  • @aka2384

    @aka2384

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@weebinit8011 xd nawet zabawne

  • @weebinit8011

    @weebinit8011

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aka2384 oke

  • @RNB_Jerry

    @RNB_Jerry

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have to give Rovio another chance because the new angry birds game Angry birds reloaded looks promising

  • @baimhakani
    @baimhakani3 жыл бұрын

    Could you consider covering about Flipline Studios' Papa Louie games, please?

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to at some point!

  • @patrikwintergerst6939
    @patrikwintergerst69392 жыл бұрын

    If the guy is using operant terms, then "positive punishment" is wrong. Positive punishment would be some stimulus appearing to punish the player for failing. The bloody corpses are positive reinforcement, they just don't work as that for everyone

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement3 жыл бұрын

    I think something the internet needs to realize that all art is stolen, nothing is truly original. Getting inspiration can be big or small, but Angry Birds in the End was an original idea. Yes, a big part of it is inspired by (or stolen from depending on how it's looked at), but it still added onto that idea and turned it into something new.

  • @RyanRedbird

    @RyanRedbird

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @Captions-Eric
    @Captions-Eric3 жыл бұрын

    I actually like the look of siege master

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I think they did a great job with it!

  • @wolfwolf8296
    @wolfwolf82963 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know man,that chicken looks like it could get all of there friends and kill you if you pick them up

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chicken sus

  • @domornater6032
    @domornater60323 жыл бұрын

    hol up is that the “for the king” menu theme playing in the background 8:26

  • @sonnytrinh3370
    @sonnytrinh33709 ай бұрын

    Please do the Warlords series!

  • @jackschumann8440
    @jackschumann84403 жыл бұрын

    Would you be interested in making videos on Flash websites

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's certainly something I plan to do someday! There are plenty of websites that have made significant contributions to the culture and industry of Flash games.

  • @nahno7698
    @nahno76983 жыл бұрын

    I was waiting this one to get revised

  • @tudorcalita6934
    @tudorcalita69343 жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @JmMateo933
    @JmMateo9332 жыл бұрын

    They took the idea and made it slightly different for new platform

  • @awesomeplushproductions
    @awesomeplushproductions10 ай бұрын

    I played angry birds since I was little, and I just discovered crush the castle recently. I personally think they are both great in their own way

  • @keithmoseley4772
    @keithmoseley47723 жыл бұрын

    maybe 21st?

  • @chocolatecaake
    @chocolatecaake3 жыл бұрын

    He literally forgot the name of his on game

  • @kaigorodaki
    @kaigorodaki2 жыл бұрын

    big thanks for this video, this helped me for my presentation on angry birds 👍

  • @georgieippolito9924
    @georgieippolito9924 Жыл бұрын

    crush the castle 2 should get released on mobile and it'll destroy angry birds. build your own castle however you like with unlimited parts, put the people inside and destroy other people's castles.

  • @EpikBirb

    @EpikBirb

    3 ай бұрын

    The original bird games aren't even up anymore so

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando2 жыл бұрын

    The flash games Dark Cut (I think that was the name) were also very obviously copied to make Trauma Center

  • @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்
    @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்Ай бұрын

    Angry Birds improved upon Crush the Castle on so many levels.. First off, the artstyle&aesthetics are much more colourful&charming whereas the flash game's artstyle is very drab and secondly, it fixed an issue with CTC, switching the boulder sling with a normal slingshot made the aiming much more precise. I look at thiis in the same way as Final Fight Vs Streets Of Rage, was SoR a blatant rip off of FF? Yeah but its sequel Sor2 ended up being one of the best beat'em'ups ever made and SoR2 has its own identity separate from FF. Lot of games start off as rip offs such as saints row or medal of honour but eventually they create their own identity down the road.

  • @VampPhoenix99
    @VampPhoenix992 жыл бұрын

    THAT'S NOT WHAT POSITIVE PUNISHMENT MEANS

  • @BinaryHedgehog1

    @BinaryHedgehog1

    Жыл бұрын

    I took Pysch 101 and this totally went over me. Yeah, operant conditioning has got some counter-intuitive terminology.

  • @minionman3103
    @minionman31033 жыл бұрын

    Excellent question

  • @swivileunitedbackup8227
    @swivileunitedbackup82273 жыл бұрын

    This sounds like an old flashlight episode

  • @thatoneguy8293
    @thatoneguy82933 жыл бұрын

    Crush the castle is like the rip off name castle crashers but it isn’t anything like castle crashers

  • @kristincook7808
    @kristincook78083 жыл бұрын

    He should do a flashlight on madness combat

  • @RigginTheRod010
    @RigginTheRod010 Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @presidentnoob2520
    @presidentnoob25203 жыл бұрын

    I think angey birds it just inspired by crush the castle or mabye is a coincidence

  • @groovingtachanko3677
    @groovingtachanko36772 жыл бұрын

    Ayo, I dont really like angry birds, but if you want to say that they ripped of crush the castle its the same thing to say that they copied bowman aswell. nice video btw

  • @Generic_Ralsei_Worshipper
    @Generic_Ralsei_Worshipper3 жыл бұрын

    40th ike

  • @ClickyTheCat
    @ClickyTheCat3 жыл бұрын

    Primary flashlight when?

  • @adnanalmusaher
    @adnanalmusaher Жыл бұрын

    Hi everyone anyone played flash games of angry birds?

  • @titanicroblox03
    @titanicroblox03 Жыл бұрын

    Is not a rip off it’s inspired

  • @duckstabed7381
    @duckstabed73813 ай бұрын

    Yes it is

  • @gavinwilson5895
    @gavinwilson58953 жыл бұрын

    all of them are yeet tho

  • @hungariancountryball2928
    @hungariancountryball29283 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @randomduder995
    @randomduder9953 жыл бұрын

    Woh

  • @otakuscientist5171
    @otakuscientist51713 жыл бұрын

    Why do your vids not get recomended to me?!?!?

  • @Pussycat8
    @Pussycat83 жыл бұрын

    WHAT!

  • @KC_Garcia
    @KC_Garcia3 жыл бұрын

    (Visible confusion)

  • @mysteriousnewdude6491
    @mysteriousnewdude64913 жыл бұрын

    2nd

  • @cheeseballs7433
    @cheeseballs74332 жыл бұрын

    Tbh its better than Crush the castle my opinion

  • @kas2840
    @kas2840 Жыл бұрын

    Avatar fortress fight

  • @SuperMarioFan-ys6eb
    @SuperMarioFan-ys6eb Жыл бұрын

    Saying Angry Birds is a ripoff of Crush the Castle is like saying Sonic is a ripoff of Mario.

  • @RyanRedbird

    @RyanRedbird

    3 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU.

  • @st.haborym
    @st.haborym Жыл бұрын

    Inspiration is when you make a game LIKE the original. This is literally just a reskin.

  • @cole8445
    @cole8445 Жыл бұрын

    Crush the casl is not the same

  • @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590
    @ABPinkandBlueAbestie55903 жыл бұрын

    Well, no angry birds is not a ripoff to crush the castle

  • @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590

    @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s befor crush the castle

  • @2leftthumbs

    @2leftthumbs

    3 жыл бұрын

    First Crush the Castle: May 2009 First Angry Birds: December 2009

  • @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590

    @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well I think it’s befor crunch the castle, but That’s okay about your comment

  • @I_Am_Wasabi_Man

    @I_Am_Wasabi_Man

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590 i made a horrible mistake looking at your videos. "What tis the boy saw? His Girlfriend and her skirt ( 16+ )" 💀

  • @kukurakukis
    @kukurakukis Жыл бұрын

    Part 2 worst rip offs angry bird please. 😀

  • @grantschubach5163
    @grantschubach51638 ай бұрын

    This game looks ugly compared to Angry Birds

  • @weaponxgamer3786
    @weaponxgamer37862 жыл бұрын

    Crush the castle was better

  • @greystash1750
    @greystash17502 жыл бұрын

    Yes