I remember Rumble. You had that rig when we first met, probably early in 2014. You went everywhere the TJs & JKs were going.

@AllOverOverland

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Yes! That thing RUMBLED around AllOver the place. Too bad it has so many mechanical issues.

Great video! Very informative.

@AllOverOverland

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Thanks Omeed!

Totally agree on trucks being the superior vehicle for overlanding, unless you really need that extra little bit of offroad ability the better breakover and departure angle give you. I love my Frontier with an Ovrlnd popup camper on it. If I was rich I might ditch it for a very built 4x4 Econoline or 5500 cab and chassis expedition truck build, but my rig is 90% as awesome for half the price.

@AllOverOverland

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Right on!

Frontier gang! I also wanted Tacoma prior to buying my pro4x in 2020.. I was able to pay about 10k less for a truck that does the same job with less miles. No regrets.. but.. If I was solo.. no wife or dog.. I think i would prefer an xterra so i can just sleep in it like your liberty

@AllOverOverland

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Sleeping in the rig was nice.

Michael, great points and insight and comparisons. Many points and ideas that I did not think of. Thoroughly enjoyed this. Love to see where you go with this build.

@AllOverOverland

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Thanks David! I’m sure it will keep changing! LOL.

Recently got a great deal on a 02 Suburban 2500 with 8.1 motor. Sold the JKU because too many vehicles. Looking forward to nicer weather to take it and the 5x10 cargo converted camper

@AllOverOverland

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Yeah I put these right there with a van, so much room! Some of the place I go the length would be an issue. Have fun with that beast!

Thanks, Michael. Your comparison was not so much an SUV vs Pickup as it was a Liberty vs Pickup. It would've have been interesting were you comparing to an Xterra instead of a Liberty. Of course, as you know I own both a heavily modified 2007 JK X (called a Sport in later years) and a lightly modified 2020 Gladiator Rubicon. And I find that the JK is a much better overlanding rig. The advantages of the Gladiator center around it being newer (the JK is approaching 300K miles) and having that wonderful 3.6L motor vs the 3.8L. It is a pleasure to drive on long highway trips. But when it comes to overlanding, it is far less practical. Not only is the back a security issue, but stuff back there gets filthy. I have well-sealed boxes (AluBox brand), but I still get myself filthy with simple things like just preparing a meal. Yes, the tailgate as a table is a great advantage over the JK, and that is one of two reasons that I don't opt for a Decked Drawer System. That is, having to clear part of my work table in order to retrieve something inside one of the drawers is a pain. The other reason I don't like the decked drawer system is because I use my pickup as a pickup at times. While you mention that pickups can be configured how the owner wishes, truth is that if you want a pickup, pulling all that other gear out is a nuisance. And I bought a pickup because I need a pickup. I've already hauled an axle housing to a friend in Montana. And a 55 gallon aquarium with stand and canopy to my daughter in ABQ. So, reconfiguring my pickup would be a pain. Finally, the real bottom line for not liking the Gladiator is because accessing things in the bed is difficult. Because I have a rack, accessing from the side is not practical. So I must access from the rear. I use a pole with a hook on the end to push things up into the bed and pull them back out. But it's like playing Tetris to get what I want out by moving what's in the way out of the way. In the Wrangler, I have a drawer, two shelves, and my fridge on a slide (a fridge on a slide will not fit under my Gladiator's tonneau cover and will also cause that problem with shuffleboard on what is supposed to be my table before I can pull it out). Since I don't sleep in either of my rigs, preferring a ten pound package with my tent, sleeping pad and bag to a 150 or more pounds up high, there is no advantage to whether I have room inside the rig or not (though I admit there are a couple times I slept in the passenger seat due to extreme weather when an interior platform would have been nice). There are also those Rotopax vs NATO jerry cans: I have the former on the JT and the latter on the JK. Had I realized that you cannot siphon gas from Rotopax because of their interior design, I would have never bought three of them. The JK is super easy to siphon gas. The Gladiator, I must hold up an awkward 4-gallon Rotopax to transfer fuel. I'd rather be taking care of something else (like airing up-down) instead of standing there holding a Rotopax. At the end of the day, I prefer my Wrangler over the Gladiator for overlanding.

@AllOverOverland

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Agreed, I only have the experience with a Liberty. True the Xtrerra is a much more capable rig, it still has the customization limitations as far as configuration like most SUVs. I put Jeeps in totally different categories, but as you know space is the battle.

@AllOverOverland

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Even with my comparison my dream rig is a diesel JL with the American Safari LX extension and topper.

@DxDOverland

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I'll be traveling in April (if all goes right) with a friend with the JL diesel. He was supposed to be on the NVBDR trip and two hours out of Tonopah had a turbo warning light, so turned around and headed back to Washington. Apparently that turbo warning light is a bit of a common problem. And the repair is quite extensive. Plus parts shortages. It took a few months for them to get the parts. then a couple weeks for his Jeep to be repaired. Fingers crossed it's permanently fixed. Would sure hate to pay for all the labor I heard it took. Other than that, he loves the diesel motor. Well, except no manual transmission. Like me, he prefers to row his own gears.

My Tacoma is also my "daily". I don't overland full time, or even a whole lot. I do use it for hauling heavy and big loads that just wouldn't work with an SUV. I do like having the exterior storage so I'm not dragging dirty camping gear in and out of the interior. I couldn't fit on a SUV sleeping platform, so that was never an option. In my opinion, an SUV is great for people hauling and recreational use, but a truck was built to work while being capable of 'play' as it were. They both have their pros and cons, but a midsize truck is right for my purposes.

@AllOverOverland

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Great points!