Not completely useless. I do most of my creative writing on an iBook running OS 9.2.2 with Word 2001. Why? I can't get distracted by the Internet! :)

@PEGuyMadison

5 жыл бұрын

So very true!

@joemo604

5 жыл бұрын

Sega Boy good point! Sometimes its good to unplug from the internet!

@deletedaccount966

4 жыл бұрын

Please make a video about it

@oozarusama

4 жыл бұрын

@@deletedaccount966 i use my G5 STILL and burns blurays disc on this check my channel hahah kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2uXpJNvo93AXZM.html

@anires1195

Жыл бұрын

How do you easily send the file to your new device so you can turn it in….

Hands up if 1997 still sounds like just yesterday

@m9078jk3

5 жыл бұрын

It was from the far future from the year 1967

@TombstoneChris

5 жыл бұрын

Saying that 1997 was 22 years ago just boggles the hell out of me it just does not seem like that long ago.

@adews7204

4 жыл бұрын

🖐 Wait I was born in 2003

@warrenlewis4349

4 жыл бұрын

*hands up*

@ahah1785

3 жыл бұрын

It does sound like yesterday...but...but...i dont want to think about it...the thought alone scares the shit out of me....=)

I have found that a G4 is the oldest Mac that can still be functional for me today. I have an old Pro Tools rig running perfectly fine on a G4 running OS9, and it is still a tank. Runs great, with low noise, and boots up about as fast as a current Mac. If you have some old PT 5.1 TDM files you need opened and converted to a modern format, Im your guy. I also can dump from ADAT, Tascam DA8, 1/4" reel to reel and 4 track cassette. I specialize in bringing life to old projects in forgotten formats, but this is just a bit too far back of a machine for seriously professional audio. It would be perfect for doing some MIDI sequencing and maybe some 2-4 track projects. The very first studio I worked in (1997) had an 8600. We took a step back moving to that format, because we could only stream 4-6 tracks at most in Opcode Vision Pro through a SCSI Jaz drive; before, we could get 8 tracks on the ADAT, but the editing capabilities were just so cool. I still remember how happy we were when he moved over to a G4, and we could track all of our MIDI as individual audio files, taking away the need to load up all of the patches and effects for a remix. After that, I never used tape again until I went to college where we learned on reel to reel machines and tascam DA-8s, especially when working with audio for film synchronized via time code.

@oozarusama

4 жыл бұрын

i use my g5 by burns bluray discs movies hahah kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2uXpJNvo93AXZM.html

@rontv7747

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with the G4. I have an iMac G4 that I use for writing a daily journal. It's also very sleek and even modern looking. Runs System 9.22 fast!

Don't use the latest versions of apps the old machine can run, rather go for the oldest ones. That way it's blazing fast. I could do graphics work on my Quadra 950 like it's 1992 again and it'd actually be faster for practical purposes than modern hardware. Boots in less than a second from RAM disk, starts Photoshop 1 in less than 1 sec as well, not much longer for Photoshop 2, and using file sizes still common for web is no sweat and near realtime fast.

@judenihal

5 жыл бұрын

You are the first person who said something similar to what I have been preaching to people. People want to use the latest and greatest, even on older computers. I have been saying the same thing about old PCs. People get Pentium IIIs which were the most fastest processors in 1999 and then they put Windows XP on those PCs. Then they complain that the computer is slow, not knowing how much of a resource hog Windows XP is. I kept telling people, do not put XP on Pentium III machines and put Windows 98 to experience the speed of the processor. You are completely right. Older software works much better on older computers as opposed to newer software.

@BCThunderthud

5 жыл бұрын

My memory of doing graphics on a Quadra in 1992 was that you'd start a blur and then wait 10 minutes before you got an out-of-memory error. Also of paying a ton of money to buy 44 MB Syquest drives and usually having a hard time getting them back from the printer. Things got a lot better when the PowerPCs came out. That said I own 4 Macs that will run at least Classic Mode and none that won't, 8.6 was my favorite Apple OS.

@psychicist

5 жыл бұрын

It is not a problem to run the latest versions of applications. However modern operating systems and applications are much bigger than they were at the time these computers were sold. So what should be done is to run operating systems and applications that are suitable for the specs of the hardware. I recently installed OpenBSD on my Powermac G4 and I am interested in seeing what operating systems such as AROS or MorphOS could be even leaner on the same hardware. We have entered an era where we can run many different operating systems on the same hardware, so if one becomes too bloated and slow you just install another one. Windows, Mac OS and Linux have all become relatively bloated.

@Vlamat67

2 ай бұрын

@@psychicist It is thought that hardware can support software updates for years to come but this is not the case. I had to process a 1.68Gb 32bit audio file on an old 2011 Macbook13 to which I installed an SSD but with OSX Snow Leopard. Soundtrack 3.x was able to process the file smoothly and in real time. The processed file was then transferred to FinalCutX on the MBP16 M1Max...using the wifi network connection between the two machines. This is to say that even if with patches and software forcing I could make that 2011 MacbookPro13 work with OSx Sonoma, first of all I wouldn't have the possibility to use Soundtrack because it is a 32bit app and the computer would be slow because the operating system would be too heavy for that machine (which still works fine on Hi Sierra). So it's true, you can use old machines but with the software designed for them. And you can still be productive, even if you are not connected to the internet.....

Ahhh the 9600... I remember back in primary school when they were throwing one out I was allowed to have it. There's even a video on my channel from like 10 years ago of me using it.

@gregorymalchuk272

4 жыл бұрын

Do you collect old Apple stuff?

@King_K_Rool_

3 жыл бұрын

Bung some eucalyptus oil on there and it will be even better!

@erg7732

2 жыл бұрын

Good to see you here Nathan :)

@keithyakouboff8755

2 жыл бұрын

I'm impressed these machines even still function. I have an ancient Iicx and alas, it does not. How did he get the monitor to receive a signal from that box?

Man that made me kinda sentimental looking at those OS9 screens. I spent so much time producing music with an pro tools system and I had really great times despite a 10 times reboot each day

The KZread algorithm served this old vid of yours to me today. Just had to tell you that I used to use a 7100, a 7600, a 8100, a 9100 along with the 9600 every day at work. I worked for one the largest pre-press companies in the world at the time back in the 90’s, producing film and plates for anything and everything you might think of - lots of newspapers too. Like yourself, I’m amazed that we were able to do it. I certainly remember times when we would leave a Mac to save a DCS file in photoshop overnight, quite literally, or hitting enter in the morning on a Photoshop change and come back in the afternoon to find the grey bar still chugging across the screen. #memories 🙂✌🏼

The OS9 Finder still beats the OS X one by miles.

@lattermanstudio

5 жыл бұрын

Gunnar Liljas ....agree!!!

@ignitore

4 жыл бұрын

In what? Can u xplain?

@sternkrieger1950

3 жыл бұрын

Well, macOS nowadays is just becoming iOS - a flat, ugly, glitchy, closed down eyesore. OS 9 was super fast, super customizable with support for hundreds of third party control panels and extensions. Not to mention those cool OS sounds! The only thing I wished OS 9 had was protected memory (OS 9 is notorious for locking up your entire system when any error occurs and forcing you to restart).

@excitableboy7031

3 жыл бұрын

You people are dumb. I used System 8 and it was abhorrant. It crashed a lot, ran the computer unnecessarily hot and did i mention it crashed a lot? Rose tinted glasses are one thing but there's a reason Apple chucked all of OS 10 and went with NeXT

@Ck-zw2dx

3 жыл бұрын

@@sternkrieger1950 I just bought an iMac G3 for the first time and it's running os9 and it's doing exactly this it's like it can't recover from a crash or something I don't know why it doesn't run something in a sandbox virtual machine and then you can close that down and go to the real operating system that well have you up and running maybe this is not possible maybe I'm talking out of my ass lol

The 604e was a man's CPU. It had so many execution units it was almost like a dual cpu system, smooth as silk for workstation use. I fire up my IBM 43P 150 with AIX 5.3 (which was supported until just a few years ago, but Firefox is unbearably slow) when I get nostalgic, model m keyboard, roller ball 3 button mouse and all. I still love it. MacNFS or Dave may be the best way to get files off a newer Mac OS X system, I’m sure you can find them in a software garden somewhere...

@stevehascall4441

2 жыл бұрын

KZread brought me back to this page when I searched for System 7 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I dug my 7100 out of the closet over the holidays, and it seems I have that same mouse, and the same problems. The four exposed screws on the bottom are simply not seen these days, but made disassembling and cleaning it super easy. I blew out a quarter century of dust and fuzz, wiped everything down with some alcohol, and lubed the axle ends with a teensie paint brush and some tungsten disulfide. A few days of use to break it in, and it’s good as new! I might even get the keyboard working in a couple more years.

Born in 54. You're wearing well!

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

I will have to keep you as a pet.

@NotEmilyInParis

5 жыл бұрын

Great, I become quite clubbable after a can of Pedigree and a glass of Beaujolais.

@goldenhourkodak

4 жыл бұрын

Don't get fat and keep up with current styles, and you'll look good at any age.

Goll darn it, I got the greater than, less than symbol mixed up. In the video I indicated that the 3.2 meg image file took >1 second to open on my Hackintosh, when I mean

@StalewindFarto

5 жыл бұрын

Failure is our personal trainer, except I failed to notice and learned nothing for the experience. Serves me right, wisdom abandoned me for failure to pay.

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

@@StalewindFarto And even worse I forgot to use my, "I've cleaned my balls" remark. What a miss.

my dad bought me PowerMac 7300/200 at 1997 when i was 13 and i knew nothing about computers, but i knew one thing - it was a rarity to have a mac in Russia at that times, so it gave me another reason to be a snob. I liked my 7300 and later G3 Beige, and I can't part with them so far : ))

@icekng456

5 жыл бұрын

I dont have space for them so i threw the 7300 away🤧

@somehumanbeing4018

4 жыл бұрын

+ it was a western good also. i'm assuming that it was luxurious to have stiff like Nintendo, Apple because i heard for example, instead of Nintendo, people had "Dendy"

"Deflect asteroids from the planet earth" ? Well, I don't know about that. Most probably will deflect the last remaining professionals from planet apple, though.

I got goose bumps hearing that SCSI drive. Love it Paul. Thanks for sharing.

Oh we had one of those when I was in elementary school! I can remember poking legos though its letterbox but not using it so much.

I was helping my dad sort out his garage and I found two 8600/250's and a 9600/233 in there, lot's of expansion cards too, i'm hoping to combine all the best stuff to make one nice system! Great video by the way!

This brought back a memory where we had a die-hard Mac user that loved to rubbish and refuse to use any of the Windows and OS\2 Boxes. When he took a toilet break, I stole the ball from his mouse. So funny watching this from a distance...

BTW very nice filming and editing, i know it takes a lot of effort

Paul just seeing you open illustrator brought back so many memories. I was in desktop publishing for many years (don’t want to say how many because it will make me look old) and I worked on systems made by Crosfield and Scitex before photoshop and illustrator even existed. Those were the good old days when we had to retouch and manipulate images for printing (for example magazines including Newsweek Family Circle Child The New York Times and Brides to name just a few of the many we worked on) on these proprietary systems and we were paid well. I did transition to Photoshop Quarkexpress Indesign and illustrator as they phased out the high end systems in favor of the more affordable Mac desktops. The Crosfield and Scitex systems were anywhere from 500,000 to 1,000,000 a piece. I liked working on macs and I have never owned anything but macs however once Photoshop and Indesign where firmly established in the desktop industry it inevitably forced me to change careers after 25 years in that industry because my job was outsourced to India. So for me the Macintosh and photoshop is a kind of love hate relationship because I loved working in that industry but the pairing of the two forced me out of the job I loved so much.

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

Yes I remember using a Crossfield drum scanner. What a monster and it would take forever and the files were huge. I started in a Linotype. I helped bring the Mac and postscript to the service bureaus. It was an exciting time. Damned Agfa with their postscript clone rasterizers. Pieces of crap. Thanks for your comment. Brought back a lot of memories.

Oh Peter, thanks for the memories. I bought my first Mac, a PPC 6100/60 in the Summer of 94 and it had 8MB RAM upgraded to 16MB's (£250!!!), plus RAM Doubler, a 250 MB HD, the 14" AV monitor, the ergonomic keyboard (£200!!!), a dodgy 400 dpi greyscale hand scanner, a joystick for F-18 Hornet flight simulator, MS Office for Mac (or was it just Word?) and it came with OS 7. All for the grand total of £3500. Ah the good old days.

Thank You. A useful AND interesting AND entertaining vid !

A startup chime... it's a good thing Apple decided to replace that with a touch strip. I recently had my integrated graphics stop working on a MacBook Pro at work and it was a real growth experience, trying to do all of the startup keyboard shortcuts before my device would switch to discrete graphics. Thanks, Apple!

@MJ-uk6lu

3 жыл бұрын

lol my Mac Mini 2.1 has a a loud chime and it runs OS X Lion.

Really nice video! I like your style!

Thank you for this little trip into the past. Hard to believe this thing is over 20 years old! We've come so far in that time. It was so expensive but considered to be worth it for the "power". As for the mouse issues, I think you need to clean your ball (that came out very wrong!) For sure, if you were using one of these things, you ended up drinking a LOT of coffee waiting for applications to open, files to render etc. Think how much money a company could make on pay toilets :-) You can always tell an old-time Mac user due to the wristwatch icon burned onto the back of the eyeballs!

I still use a mac mini g4 every single day, I also have a windows 10 computer but I just love snow leopard

I have a couple of old Macs I still use at home, one is a beige G3 and the other a Powerbook G3 Lombard. I mainly use the Lombard because it is so physically comfortable to use, and I do photo editing, create in Freehand (still better than Illustrator), and record vinyl records using a nifty bit of software which does the job brilliantly. The Lombard also has the luxury of USB and SCSI making it the most versatile old Mac. You have to be carful when playing videos as the coding changed so much esp. back then, resulting in the problems shown here. The internet is the biggest killer of old computers. Great video! Gordon

I still believe this Mac environment back then beats Windows 95 by a large margin. I was born in 1986. I barely touched DOS. If it wasn't from my older cousin (who is a graphic artist), I would have never known about Macs. Fascinating!

Fun trip back in time! I can't believe I used to get professional work out of one of those!

I had this same 9600 back then. It was amazing for the time. BTW; I switched to Affinity Photo based on your mention; I can never go back to Adobe now. You're a crazy dude: keep going!

Affinity is a great alternative. Nice video!

This video was so fun for me to watch. I had a Centris 610 in 1996 and the thing I remember most about it was the CD Caddy system - essentially turning optical disks into cassette tapes. The venerable PowerMac towers with their CD trays! Incredible technology never even seen before! Ha! And, OS9 extensions (booting into safe mode to turn extensions off when the whole thing crashed and trying to track down the culprit). Easy to forget how far things have come - and also what's lived on for 30 years of mac existence.

I started this shindig on a IIGS and at the moment I'm doing fine on the 07 MacBook and 09 MBP 15 that I have. Still, fun to see how far we've come in such a relatively short time.

Hi Paul. Thanks for the video. It just so happens that I am in a similar standing as the subject you covered. My wife has a 1998-99(?) G3-300 beige PowerMac Desktop from university days. We hadn’t fired it up in about 15 years and I have had to go through a number of steps to finally get it running. Now, for the Question... The current OS is 9.1. The internet software (2) versions: Microsoft’s I.E. 4.5 and Netscape7(?) have incompatibility issues with today’s security protocols. So, I was wondering if it is possible to download slightly higher (and protocol compatible) versions on to a thumb drive or CD and load them on to the G3. Would this work? Would using Claudzilla(sp?) be advisable? Also, can you provide me with a walk-through to confirm internet setup on the G3 is correct? I have an ADSL line from Yahoo, then connected to a wireless router, but I do have an Ethernet line (I believe, as it only fits Ethernet plug in slots.) which I can connect directly from the Yahoo router or I can try via my ancient Apple airport -also using Ethernet. I also need to figure out the pertinent ip or client I’d or whatever’s to make sure I address any flaws in my plan. Your thoughts/help would be appreciated. Jim

I have a G3 in an identical case, it's very useful for repairing and restoring older beige Macs. I was able to get it online to download software, but it was almost physically painful.

10:54 There's nothing inherently wrong with such an old version of Photoshop when dealing with large JPEGs, it's just the hardware you're using can't cope. The Windows version of Photoshop from 1997 runs blazingly fast on a modern PC and can deal with large files etc. I agree with your other points though. Affinity Photo is terrific.

Great stuff. Had a beige G3/266 tower, which effectively replaced the 9600 (shorter version, only 3 slots, of the same basic case design). Lovely machine, it was fast, easy to expand...

It's not useless. I still use my 9600 to digitalize 35mm films. Its the only way to comunicate with (old but good) scsi scanners. Back in the days i managed to buy a used sonnet usb/pci card for this thing. Didn't know how usefull that would came out in the future. The 9600 was a great piece of gear.

That was my work computer in 1997, at a Prepress Studio for a printing company, loved it back then.

Thank you for this video!

Last summer, I fired up the 7300 to have a bit of fun. I downloaded AlphaTCL (text / data fork editor), but the required TCL libraries (additional download) were last compiled for "MacOS Classic" about 15 years ago and the binary repository is 404. With the addition of a floppy drive failure, the fun wore off after a few days. Still glad to watch others fire up old macintoshes from time to time. Thanks!

Thank you for this nostalgic look back to the dark ages of computing! I just subscribed to your channel and I like what I see so far! lol I grew up with Macs, but nowadays I'll use what works. Right now I'm on a PC I built running Windows 10 Pro and have upgraded it over the last 5-6 years, but when I get some money I want to get a PowerMac like yours there and attempt to install as high a Mac OS X version for PowerPC as it'll take. My dad used to be into desktop publishing when I was growing up, so he had a Power Mac 8500/120 with a whopping 64 MB of RAM... I don't think it ever saw the light of Mac OS 9.. I believe Mac OS 8.1 or 8.6 was the last OS it ran in its lifetime before my dad got a PowerBook G4 Titanium.... If I'm able to get one of these awesome pieces of late 90s tech I'll of course need to get a G3 or G4 upgrade card for it to even allow me to install OS X, but if that happens I'll be filming a video series on it... I hope I can do it soon. Great video!

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subbing. It is a crazy ride.

@ShiggitayMediaProductions

5 жыл бұрын

@@CallMeChato Sure no problem! :)

Wow, I love your enthusiasm so much! I love the story behind your PowerPC computer! I had to subscribe!

@CallMeChato

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subbing!

I had a contemporary machine on the PC side. A Packard Bell Platinum 2240, with a blisteringly fast 200MHz Pentium MMX, and 32MB RAM. Same performance. It finally ended up on the scrap heap back in 2017, after spending a decade in a box.

Not even 30 seconds in, you sir have earned a subscription from me! I love this video! I just recently bought an iBook that I will be taking to college for notes and stuff! If OS 9 wasn't usable before, I'll make it usable somehow!

@CallMeChato

3 жыл бұрын

I hope to keep your trust.

Still love my Power Macintosh 5500/250 Black 'Director's Edition' sold in Australia and Japan from February 1997 to March 1998. :D Epic and hilarious video.

Great episode! First you sold me not building my own vanilla mac (which works great btw), now you've sold me on Affinity. That's either great salesmanship or mind control.

I loved my Power PC! Great memories

Totally agree that Adobe CC subscriptions are a ripoff. I’ve never heard of Affinity; I’d love to see a demo of that software

@keithyakouboff8755

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you say they're a rip-off? I don't mind paying $32 for something that may help me land a job or fulfill a job. It's not a large expense, especially when compared to the old $600 price tag of buying a license when these PPCs were in their heyday.

@XMattingly

2 жыл бұрын

@@keithyakouboff8755 It’s $50/mo, not “$32”, and a one-size-fits-all payment, regardless of how much you use it or how many apps in the suite you actually use. When you paid for discs you had the option to skip buying new versions for a few years, particularly if new features weren’t a value proposition. Adobe’s core graphics software has had almost no new must-have features since CC, so there’s almost no value added year to year and you’re paying $600/year, _regardless._ You do the math and figure out which product was fairly priced, and which one is simply a revenue stream.

@keithyakouboff8755

2 жыл бұрын

@@XMattingly It's $32 / month for one app. Once I needed Photoshop for one month. That was it. Got done what I needed for a very minimal cost. This works for me far better than having to shell out $600 for a program I might use only a few times a year.

@XMattingly

2 жыл бұрын

​@@keithyakouboff8755 I described the cost of app suite subscription software vs a one-time payment, and you know that. Single app cost/usage is a very different story; like the one where you could've done the same with any number of freeware or donationware competing apps, and done the same for nothing? Stop being facetious.

@keithyakouboff8755

2 жыл бұрын

@@XMattingly Yes... being facetious over subscription software. It's my sacred purpose. My calling. You argue on your terms, and I on mine. For me, the sub model works. To quote George Costanza, I like it. It's good. You don't? Good. Do whatcha gotta do.

Nice, this was uploaded on my birthday

I went to sleep not knowing tomorrow would be yesterday, and here I am now with this present.

Ah the old says. Brings me back!

Maybe it's just me but I think this elderly deserves more follows

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

Damn, straight. I could not agree with you more. Thank you.

Very informative, and you're entertaining, also!

@CallMeChato

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Takes me back. That's the version of Illustrator I first learned at Sheridan College.

My father who is 84 years old still uses an old Performa 6400 and some old version of Excel in combination with an old Apple Stylewriter. That sure does the job for him. While he has a Mac mini, for some reason, he still prefers the old hardware and software and I sure don't blame him.

It works like a dream! I still have my G3/266 flat tops!

Wow, actually was not so long ago we were all wrestling with OS 9. Thanks for the walk down memory lane! I think ;-)

Such nostalgia for me. I miss my old Mac OS. I loved working on my macs back then. OS 7.6.1 was so solid, and I think 8.6 was too. I had lots of crashes with 9.2... Back then, my dream machine (that I never did get) would have been the 9600's little sister, the PowerMac 8600.

I still use my PowerMac G4 MDD, and it works great :)

Found three of these in a dumpster at York University where Iwas working, set them up, in my office andthey booted up fine, and then I put them all back in the dumpster. What was I going to do with them?

From Wikipedia: Utilizing a third-party G4 CPU upgrade[6] and the XPostFacto installation utility it is possible to run up to Mac OS X v10.5 "Leopard" on a 9500, making it the oldest model capable of running Mac OS X. 9600 support this too i guess. I guess videocard, mouse and monitor can be replaced to more modern variants.

Oooh, memories. I had an 8600/250 for a couple of years. Upgraded it with a G3 card after frying the original processor (running SETI@home or something of that sort) 24/7. Had a mindmelt when I bought an IDE card and went from 4 gigs of SCSI storage to 40 gigs of IDE :D

Very interesting to see how things have changed. We are still using a pointing device (be it a mouse or a track pad thing), still using a keyboard to type text, still have basically the same GUI, still loading, transferring, photos and videos in 2D, still recording and producing music, still basically doing the exact same things we were back in1997, only much faster. What an evolution ! Where is this hovering Mac Pro that will be able to deflect asteroids away from the planet ?! Because with that thing, we'll be able to do something NEW with our damn computers. In 2020, I want a Mac that will read my mind ! Oh wait, maybe that's not such a good idea...? Anyway, thanks Paul for sharing this little trip down fuzzy memory lane.

Can a 1997 PowerPC architecture be used in 2019? Wii U owners; allow us to introduce ourselves (I know it's not the same but whatever)

@OleVanDole

3 жыл бұрын

Wii u squad

I was working at a Motorola PowerPC fab right before this came out. The 604e PPC CPU was such a good CPU. Imo, it was the CPU that saved Apple. I had this PPC G3 and I had a BeOS BeBox with dual 604e CPUs that Motorola loaned me.The 604e, the G4 with Velocity Engine and the G5 were all good consumer desktop RISC CPUs. But it was this 604e that made Apple’s original iMac and other G3 based Macs look fast compared to Wintel machines that year. I was mixing albums with Digital Performer on an AudioMedia II card. Jobs and the NeXT and Apple teams did a good job of taking System 7, and injecting the Copland technologies to make System 8. The Finder “multitasked” just enough to buy time until OS X could be released. Those were magical times at Apple!

How many more machines have you got in your collection would love to see more.

I love Affinity too! They’re AWESOME!

No QuarkXpress? The Powermac 7600 was the first computer I bought for myself. I got a Apple computer loan through my school right before I graduated. I got the computer, 17" Viewsonic CRT monitor, a Umax scanner, and Laserwriter 4/600 all for the small price of $5500. Up until 5ish years ago that laser printer was still going strong. I feel you about Adobe - moved to Inkscape a few years back. Will have to give Afinity a shot.

Peter, Thanks for the heads up on Affinity. What are you using for video editing? Maybe you mention it in another video but I can't recall.

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

I"m a FCPX guy. Appreciate the question.

My all time favorite keyboard?!? Like the one I'm typing on right now? Apple Extended Keyboard II, i e

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

It's a great keyboard.

@gjermundification

5 жыл бұрын

@@CallMeChato I wonder what the price would be in 2019 for this quality keyboard, it's an ALPS one, perhaps USD 450? This is way better than Cherry MX or Gamme Zulu.

By the way, is there any SATA to SCSI converter so i can put a SSD into my Power Macintosh?

@Dave102693

5 жыл бұрын

Go look online. There should br.

@JasonStevens

5 жыл бұрын

You are going to want something that specifically has support to look like an Apple OEM disk. There are some out there.

@adamkurtz5836

5 жыл бұрын

SCSI 2 SD Card. Inertial Computing.

I switched to Affinity as well! Publisher was the last piece that I needed before jumping off of the Adobe train.

Enjoyed the show very much. You have corrected my belief that most casual computer users could get by with an old system to do DTP, word processing and a few models on a spreadsheet. When you try it you come to realise how patient we were and just were so impressed we could do everything so quickly compared to last year. The move to the web has changed matters so much too. First, as you demonstrate without HTTPS certs you are doomed and huge efforts have been put in to aspects of web browsers that just did not exist then or not so important, GPU accelerated javascript compilers and layout engines to show all the junk advertising. A G5 quad is a noisy, powerful machine but even that is slow on the web. Running NextStep on a HP workstation really impresses until you load a reasonable jpeg and, ooops, out of memory. So yes, nice to go back and enjoy the experience once in a while but not for the daily bread.

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

Too true

I don’t miss the constant crashes and the slow speed, but I do have a nostalgic soft spot for the user interface, system sound effects, and various software I used to use. Even as a kid in middle school and high school, in the mid-to-late 2000’s, I was already feel a strong nostalgia boner for Mac OS 9. No different than how some PC users feel about Windows 95 and 98, I guess. The scrapbook and After Dark screensaver were especially highlights. I’m surprised OS 9 was also able to run some 3D games, the original iMovie, 16-bit lossless audio recording programs, and an SNES emulator without any frame skipping. I wish the modern Mac OS (or macOS as they newly stylized it) offered room for customizing the user interface with custom skins and sound effects, but I guess that’s what Linux is for. It’d be deemed too much of a ‘security risk’. I guess computers back in the day seemed more ‘fun’ and had more of a creative spirit. Even the Apple logo was a colorful rainbow. These days, everything is all about bloatware and features no one really asked for nor is able to turn off, while at the same time, trying too hard to adopt a look of conformist minimalism.

Performs pretty well!

You're my hero! Running a PowerMac G5.. 10.3.5 Panther & 10.5.8 Leopard in a dual boot config. Running Virtual PC 2007 on the Panther install.. just running MS DOS 6.22 & Win 2K Virtual Machines. XP is just too difficult and too slow in the emulator to be any fun. Running OS 9.4.? in classic mode also.. good times. There are things I still need to run though on my Win 10 laptop, like Visual Studio 2019 ;) Oh, I can still find uses, and useful work for my PowerMac G5 in 2019.. Some things I wouldn't dare run on my Windows 10 laptop!!

@CallMeChato

4 жыл бұрын

For sure, but I've moved on. Thanks for your update.

I like 10.4.11, I run that on a dual 1.4 G4. I still use it quite a bit, online and off. Six years makes a lot of difference.

I had an optical mouse on my Mac back then. It was an option. Also I remember having to clean the mechanical mice every month to keep them moving smoothly. Taking out the ball and cleaning the crude off of the rollers.

I have this Power PC 9600. How have you conected this Flatscreen to this MAC? My Power PC 9600 dont work with my Monitors.

hi my question i plan my power mac 9600/350 a vga upgrade and everymac write a vram need to stay 8mb but a card i can change so voodoo 2 is possible?

I really want Peter Paul Chato to be invited as guest speaker at the next apple "event"

Gotta remember to clean those mouse balls, it's a bit difficult since they're tiny(and the rollers too).

it was fast at the time. but really slow now. but, how about "toy story1" 1995 right? what computer was they used to create the movie?

At 7:13, all three Internet folders have a date of 1956. 🤣

Illustrator still shows the outline when dragging it to another location. Nothing changed much it seems. And yes Affinity..

The best things I love about OS 9 was that it was extremely fast and customizable, something macOS, Windows and even Linux today lacks. Not to mention those awesome OS sounds! Check out this screenshot of my OS 9 system from back in 2004: i.imgur.com/0Wr9G35.jpg If only it had protected memory. 😢

@Xenotypal

Жыл бұрын

Idk linux seems to me to be really customizable, moreso than any other OS i've seen.

For "sh*ts and giggles", have you tried any lighter form of Linux to see if any modern use of the PPC can be made? I expect it to be colossally slow, but was curious if it can be done and used on the net?

@CallMeChato

5 жыл бұрын

Would like to but no time.

In computer school (around '87) they had some Macs we could play with and I'm glad that other computers seemed more interesting to me during many years, but I also like/love the Mac feel in iOS and the Apple hardware (iOS on high quality devices) as I wanted touch functionality and music apps for touch where Windows, Android and Linux failed to deliver in my opinion. Any Mac would be redundant to a large degree in how I do things. The MacOS versions have been pretty, though.

My Mac of this same thing I still use even in 2021 (yesterday) I got for $100 at a flea market in early 2000s. I have a lot of legacy stuff on it. I used it up to about 2008 then got a XP. I installed Netscape 3.0 and even Mosaic from the packs I used for a Mac Performa. Some reason the dialup port doesn't work, maybe the remote port got corrupted. I do remember running Mosaic on some websites about 15 years ago, Yahoo loaded real fast as Mosaic ignored all the scripting. I still use MacDraft for doing diagrams. I save the files in TIFF, then open that with Photoshop 4.0 (bought at Weirdstuff years ago for $10 NOS). Then save as jpg. I also remember upgrading to OS 9.2.2 from instructions on the website accelerateyourmac. My mouse with a ball still works ok.

Wow, that brought back some memories! Started out way back in '94/'95 on Apple machines in Art School, photoshop version 2.5 (I think), can't remember what Illustrator version it was, but it scared me too much. Machine was a 9 something Quadra (?), big 19" CRT and the same crappy mouse as yours :). Amazing to think I made artwork that eventually went up in the end of school exhibition, and all in 72dpi cos it couldn't handle anything higher. Was ok if you didn't look too closely, heh. Those dialogue boxes brought it all back! (Now on a mackintosh btw, what does that tell ya!)

I’m thinking the security error might be due to outdated certificates. You could try to set the date on your machine to something close to the year 2000. If it’s set to auto-update, you might wanna disable that, so it doesn’t automatically go back to 2019. That might do the trick. Not guaranteed. Never used Mac OS 9. But...it might work. Anyway, this was a really fun video to watch. Thank you! :)

I have used affinity photo and luminar as I dug around for options to replace lightroom and Photoshop. I prefer them both for different reasons, mainly swinging towards affinity for jobs as it works more like my brain. I just bought both as you can put them on a few machines and own them forever, so a no-brainer for me. I believe the next generation will grow up with a wider choice of photo editing options and so PS will lose its stranglehold and become one of many in the field...

3:07 LMFPRAO!! 100% With my Newly built Ryzen 5 2600, Red Devil RX 580, OS X Mojave Ryzentosh, there is not much I can't do now. Window 10 on one of the other SSDs when I want to game, and I'm golden.

Those where magical times.... I earned my living on those machines.... with all the app shown (including Director 7)..... except for the internet you can still do a lot is useful project on those old beasts .... I just setup a Powebook G4 17” PowerBook with OS9 in order to work on some moldy oldie files.... great video 👍👍👍

@jameo3606

5 жыл бұрын

Is it much work to get OS 9 onto a newer PowerBook? I’ve got a 1.33 GHz 12” model I’d love to try it on!

Yay classic tech!

It's always nice to see old computers in working condition. I have a few vintage PCs, and a fully restored Macintosh Classic at home, running OS 7.1, fully re-capped. The only broken thing on it is the floppy eject motor, so I have to use a pin to manually eject the floppy disk.

This particular Mac was sold only for 10 months and this model came out in August but was superseded by the 350. The 9600 initially sold for $4,700 but was taken off the market because of a shortage of 350 mhz chips and because Apple was about to come out with the power Mac g3 Gossamer. There is ONE of these exact models for sale on Ebay today for about $350 including shipping. My first Mac was a Performa 550 I got at a garage sale for $50 where I had to turn in $50 in rolled pennies at various stores to buy it. I recycled it years ago and wish I still had it because one of my favorite Apple ][ games was running on it, Galactic Empire and that game for the Apple ][ was 13 sector and almost impossible to find now on floppy disk. I wound up with 21 Macs at one time and was running OUT of room. Friends kept giving me their Macs and printers when they would move out because they knew I was into Macs and Apples. I wish I had kept them. I wish I had kept one with OS 9 on it so I could play my older games like Civilization 3 Complete for Mac and Diablo 2 and Command and Conquer. I still have my Apple ][ E, ][ C, ][ GS, ][ + and an Integer based Apple ][ as well and 2 Imacs, a Macbook, and Ibook and a Mac mini and an Ipad Air 2.

Had to see if “Aldus Does It All” video exists on KZread, yup it sure does.

For what it's worth, if you have a copy of DAVE 4.0, you can share a folder on your modern Mac via SMB. DAVE allows a classic Mac to mount SMB shares (SMB 1 / 2). Love your video btw ;)

I still use my old Macintosh PowerPC with MacOS 9.4 It runs very well. How can i connect it with the iMac and the MacBook Pro?