Is 5s In The 4s Outcast V2.5 The PERFECT RC Bashing Combo?

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Let's put 5s in the Arrma Outcast 4s V2.5! Does it make this RC basher monster truck perfect? Will it be better than the 4s Traxxas Maxx for RC bashing? Let's find out together!

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  • @Rusty-Metal
    @Rusty-Metal7 ай бұрын

    That batt checker is cool!

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Yup!

  • @andyb9994
    @andyb99947 ай бұрын

    Im not to particular when it comes to power, just depends what car im running i run a 2S bandit, all the way to a 8S Xmaxx and XRT....and anything in-between....Thanks for all the electronics help on your channel i have lots to learn in that area!!!!

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah I think a lot of people don't know 5S is even an option so it's definitely something that's cool to explore. Even if it's running a bit less power on a 6S truck or being able to get away with running more power on a 4S truck without having to replace the motor.

  • @RcSpeedFreak-kk8wj
    @RcSpeedFreak-kk8wj7 ай бұрын

    Can’t wait for you to get the kraton exb v2 to do your overview and tear downs there great very informative!

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Should be tomorrow!

  • @SkunkCity_RC
    @SkunkCity_RC7 ай бұрын

    just what I needed to see

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Happy to help!

  • @FunkyHaunts666
    @FunkyHaunts6667 ай бұрын

    Love your RC content! Think I might be getting an XMaxx. Awesome video!

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Definitely a good choice! There are a lot of fun :-)

  • @FunkyHaunts666

    @FunkyHaunts666

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC yes they look very fun! Also I have a question, what kind of 8S lipo would you recommend? Thanks!

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @FunkyHuants666 That's a tough one. I haven't really run any 8s lipos. Most 8S cars take two 4S lipos. I think SMC has 8s lipos and I've had good luck in general with SMC batteries.

  • @FunkyHaunts666

    @FunkyHaunts666

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC ok thank you!

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    I actually just went back and realized you had asked me about the X-Max before that. Yeah The X-Max actually takes two 4s batteries. SMC has X-Max specific batteries but if you have any questions about the options you can contact them. They are US-based company and they're pretty responsive.

  • @justinparker5696
    @justinparker56967 ай бұрын

    Very cool video...I've always thought a lot of my larger RC's would perform just right on 5 cell but none of my ESC's will run it.

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah a lot of the castle ESCs will and it looks like most of the newest hobby wing ones will so I think it's going to become more of an option for people as time goes on.

  • @donniemarks94
    @donniemarks947 ай бұрын

    So powerful and the truck loves it

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed. I think 5S really is the best option for this truck.

  • @donniemarks94

    @donniemarks94

    7 ай бұрын

    I didn’t even know they made 5s packs lol

  • @Macgyver46
    @Macgyver467 ай бұрын

    Definitely want to see your battery video. I have a few dead lipo and any place that will take em charge a minimum of $20 per cell to take them.

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    It's definitely on the list and will be coming out soon!

  • @GreatLakesRC
    @GreatLakesRC7 ай бұрын

    The Mamba X is also compatible with 5s. It's a great option for the Arrma 4s line 👍

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    I was thinking about that but it isn't rated for the weight of these vehicles. It might be okay but I bashed in a pretty hot client in the summer and so I always like to have a lot of overhead in my hardware.

  • @GreatLakesRC

    @GreatLakesRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC The Mamba X is 6s rated with the same cryo cooling that the 8s rated MMX8S has. It can handle any of the Arrma 4s cars. Or you can go with the Mamba monster X. Older ESC but about as big as the Tekin ESC. It also reads 5s. That's the biggest advantage to Castle products. They read any voltage. The quick run that you mentioned is a pretty good ESC too. I had an old Quick run 150 that you could set to 5s as well. I'm a big fan of 5s 😀

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @GreatLakesRC It's possible it would be fine but the manual for the mamba x states that the maximum RTR weight is 9 lb and with a 5S battery my truck weighs over 11 and a half pounds. They also state that that 9 lb weight comes with a 4S limitation. Again it might be fine but I really don't like pushing stuff that hard. The Mamba monster x would almost certainly be great but at more than double the price of the 8bl150 G2 that's a hard one to justify.

  • @thecarter7025
    @thecarter70253 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah!🎉 hey man what oil do you run in your center diff on that. Ty for posting

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    3 ай бұрын

    I usually run the stock fluid with a little bit of ear plug to tighten it up. Probably ends up around 1 million total

  • @JT-6s
    @JT-6s7 ай бұрын

    I started about a month ago running on 5s for the first time and really like it. The Hobbywing WP-8BL150 being used doesn’t recognize 5s (6 beeps) but it has crazy LVC settings, like 2.6v and 2.8v, which didn’t make much sense until I realized those cutoffs must be for gap voltages like 5s. A few runs with voltage checks and I was able to dial in the right LVC to use with it.

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    According to the manual for the 8 BL 150 G2 you can manually set the LVC for 5S.

  • @_bairsoft

    @_bairsoft

    4 ай бұрын

    Did you have an issue with cogging with this esc and what motor are you running?

  • @JT-6s

    @JT-6s

    4 ай бұрын

    @@_bairsoft No cogging. Hobbywing 4068

  • @_bairsoft

    @_bairsoft

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JT-6s what kv rating

  • @JT-6s

    @JT-6s

    4 ай бұрын

    @@_bairsoft 2100kv. This is in a Kaiju EXT, which is a super light vehicle.

  • @fredfredrc
    @fredfredrc7 ай бұрын

    hello, great video

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Hi thanks!

  • @danielkroeze8218
    @danielkroeze82187 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks It was a lot of fun to make!

  • @qzf809
    @qzf8097 ай бұрын

    Sweet spot for me is 3s, 4s is just bonkers, 5s is absolute overkill and 6s is ridiculous!!!!!

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    It definitely just depends on what your goals are. I'm usually trying to push everything to its absolute limits. On this platform it seems like 6S doesn't really give you anything more than 5S.

  • @tripletrc5654
    @tripletrc56547 ай бұрын

    Tekin is what I run in my et48 2.0 m2c build and it's so smooth so nice to drive. Definitely my favorite car to drive.

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Do you run yours with a sensored motor?

  • @tripletrc5654

    @tripletrc5654

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes I run the 2000kv Tekin motor as well. But I do run it without the sensor wire with that motor and it's obviously not as smooth but fine for bashing. Racing it's a must have though imo

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @tripletrc5654 Yeah I noticed at least with the one I was running initial acceleration is pretty violent. I do have a sensored motor and tried it with that. Made a huge difference. I'm sure Tekin doesn't spend a huge amount of time tuning their sensorless operation since the vast majority of people will be running them with a sensor. I'd be interested in trying them more but unfortunately they're not waterproof and that's kind of a requirement for me

  • @tripletrc5654

    @tripletrc5654

    7 ай бұрын

    Yah forsure all my other rigs have to be waterproof as well, the Tekno is the only one I don't run in wet conditions. To much time tuning to just run anywhere lol. Love your vids dawg keep up the good work. 💪👏🤙😎

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @tripletrc5654 Thanks Glad you enjoy!

  • @Blimpus
    @Blimpus7 ай бұрын

    yes sir back in my day we had Tekin and Novak for all your ESC needs

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah I remember when I first got started Novak was the holy Grail!

  • @rccarsandmusic2641
    @rccarsandmusic26417 ай бұрын

    Nice job wish most esc support 5s. Sweet spot is 4s in light 1/8 scale, Kaiju Zd Pirate 2/3, 6s definitely in all Corally trucks and 1/7 scale 150a 4268 plus motors. You get into the 15 plus pounds you need 6s!

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed. It is nice to see that the latest hobby wing ones do though. At the moment I think the biggest hurdle is just lack of good 5S batteries. A lot of the 5S packs out there are designed for helicopters and are long and thin.

  • @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep that one you bought and one other are only two I could find on Amazon . And the 6s ones are cheaper

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @RcPlayer-tt2vw Yeah the 5S batteries are kind of specialty. Power hobby makes one that looks really promising though. It's hard case as well

  • @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC nice I have get some of that shrink wrap you have , the hard cases are cool but I always end up cutting the cases off to repair a balance wire and realize how much smaller without the case the batteries are . I have hoove 4s 120c 6200 and without the case it fits in lot rcs it otherwise wouldn’t. I’m glad you bought that HRB I have it my kart but I could see how it looks compared to Trey before you beefed it up with foam lol . I’m always trying to protect the batteries myself but never works out good , I mostly just put piece of pit yoga” Matt in the battery Trey to soften the impacts vibration. I think it’s time to come up with better way to conceal the balance wires , so fragile but maybe I’m just cheap and we aren’t supposed to keep these batteries that long .

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @RcPlayer-tt2vw Yeah I've broken more batteries than I've worn out by far. I wouldn't recommend the silliness I did in the video. After recording it I realized I completely eliminated my ability to see if the battery is puffing by doing that which is not a good thing.

  • @Schmidt3850
    @Schmidt38507 ай бұрын

    I have the V2. Waiting for the center diff conversion to come off backorder from horizon hobby. Which is ridiculous. But anyway I have the 6s BLX motor and the hobby wing Max 8 ESC on my outcast v2. The truck is absolutely nuts on 4s.

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah the center differential actually teams it down a little bit which mayor may not be a good thing depending on how you look at it.

  • @Schmidt3850

    @Schmidt3850

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC l have a 7075 slipper clutch hub snapped several of the stock weak factory slipper clutch hubs with that powerful system l have on it. I have to say in the 20 years l have been in this hobby the outcast v2 and the Teckno rc mt410 are my 2 most favorite trucks l have ever owned. I am addicted to huge jumps and both of these trucks sore like eagles through the sky.

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Schmidt3850 agreed. They're both really good trucks!

  • @gregganderson5479
    @gregganderson54797 ай бұрын

    Where did you get that shrink wrap?

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    I got it on Amazon. There's a million different flavors of it.

  • @Luke-en2tk
    @Luke-en2tk7 ай бұрын

    It's a shame Hobbywing don't have the ESC settings for 5s, I would think they could to do it with a pretty simple software update. 5s for light weight 8th scale vehicles like buggies makes a lot of sense to me. Oh I didn't realise the new Hobbywing does 5s that's pretty sweet 😛

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah the new G2 ESEs all seem to have the ability.

  • @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    7 ай бұрын

    Oh man I didn’t know hobbywing didn’t recognize 5s , but atleast the g2 has which sucks because I wanted 5 s for my typhon and I have max 6 g1 in it because the sensor wires kept getting beat up running the g2 max 8 so to protect that esc I put it in a more stable platform after fixing those little wires

  • @Luke-en2tk

    @Luke-en2tk

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC oh that's great not something I had heard publicised good to know cheers

  • @ValRC1

    @ValRC1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC does the quicrun 8bl150 G2 support 5s as well?

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ValRC1 yup!

  • @idan678
    @idan6787 ай бұрын

    can i use one 3s lipo and second lipo that is 2s?

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Technically it's possible. The problem is that it can be difficult to get a matched pair of batteries that way and given that the ESC only sees the total voltage of both batteries and has no idea what each battery's individual voltage is you can end up undervolting one battery if they discharge unevenly. You'll need to run them together for a few minutes then check the voltages and do that through a pack or two and make sure that they discharge fairly evenly. If they do you will probably be okay but they also might age differently so it's something that needs to be monitored over time.

  • @ForestPettit-jb7jl
    @ForestPettit-jb7jl7 ай бұрын

    I thought 5s was perfect for my maxx, and 5s is perfect for my tekno mt 410, wondering if I will want to try this on my outcast, just got one today.

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Definitely give it a shot! I think you'll like it. What battery are you running?

  • @ForestPettit-jb7jl

    @ForestPettit-jb7jl

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC hrb 5000mah 50c

  • @brianjessen2296
    @brianjessen22965 ай бұрын

    Whats the diffrent between 6,0v and 7,4v in the settings?

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    5 ай бұрын

    It's the voltage of the BEC. The BEC is a thing that powers the other electronics on the car. Many servos are capable of handling higher voltages and higher voltages will provide more power to your servo. Just be aware of that some receivers and some servos can't handle more than 6 volts so you need to look at the actual specifications for your hardware before changing it

  • @brianjessen2296

    @brianjessen2296

    5 ай бұрын

    What esc did you use so you can run 5s?

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    5 ай бұрын

    @@brianjessen2296 The one in the video is a Tekin rx8 but the new hobby wing 8BL 150 will also do 5S and it's a much better choice. I just didn't have one.

  • @Blimpus
    @Blimpus7 ай бұрын

    is it possible to run a 3s and 2s together?

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Technically yes however the ESC only understands the total voltage of both batteries so if the two batteries don't discharge in lockstep one of them is going to end up at a lower voltage than the other. If this difference is large enough you could end up undervolting one of the batteries. The only way to know if this will happen is to try it with the two batteries you want to use. You can charge them up, take them out and run them for a few minutes. Then check the cell voltages. If the cell voltage is stay very similar to each other throughout the discharge then they will probably be okay together. This might change over time though as the two batteries age differently so it's something you would have to keep track of.

  • @Blimpus

    @Blimpus

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC very interesting stuff, TY

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Blimpus You're welcome :-)

  • @RcPlayer-tt2vw
    @RcPlayer-tt2vw7 ай бұрын

    We buy the same batteries 😂 , I’m going be running 5s myself ,

  • @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    7 ай бұрын

    That battery tester you have is cool , I want one

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    His battery seems pretty good though it is a little light on capacity.

  • @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    @RcPlayer-tt2vw

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DoRC where do I buy that meter to test , I like you can see the true amperage, I fried a charger I had and it had a lot of features, now I’m using one I can’t see anything . I’m going just buy the duo 400 again it only lasted one year but I used it pretty much every day multiple times , touch screen too . I can’t think of the brand but I’m sure you know or have an idea . It’s the Cadillac of Amazon charges 😂

  • @DoRC

    @DoRC

    7 ай бұрын

    @RcPlayer-tt2vw take a look at the hota S6. It's a really good charger that has all the features you need at a decent price. There are a couple places you can get the ESR meter. Just look up lipo ESR meter II And you'll find it. It's not cheap but it is a great way to keep track of things and get an actual honest account of what your battery's health is and what it's capable of.

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