Iron Throne Rejected King Viserys!? (According to Books)
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@Kingofthepir2 ай бұрын
Yet joffrey remained cut free
@Nope77252
2 ай бұрын
No he was cut in the books
@someone-wo5nu
2 ай бұрын
He was a strong king. Evil but strong
@JS-ss1en
Ай бұрын
Then Joffrey was fit to rule and we were all wrong about him 🤣
@Spizy073
Ай бұрын
@@someone-wo5nu bro was not strong
@MariusVayne85
Ай бұрын
The chair wanted to reject him but not worth for a cunt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@oli8047Ай бұрын
They got rejected by the throne by sitting on it. The throne haven’t been maden for sitting. If you are a suitable ruler, you will not just sit on your ass, instead you will take the responsibility and go to battles, go to streets and solve the problems on your own.
@armiyakhan2504
Ай бұрын
That is the most insightful pov I have come across🙌
@Flipindabird23
Ай бұрын
What an eloquent way to put it! I was like no shit people got cut on a throne made of swords lmao.
@carastone3473
Ай бұрын
@@armiyakhan2504 It's not new insight. It's literally explained in Fire & Blood as the reason Aegon made the throne this way...and he came right out and said it.
@Ashbrash1998
Ай бұрын
It's also a sword made of knives like if you sit on lazily your gonna cut yourself
@javijavi8976
20 күн бұрын
Never thought of it like that very true
@MagnaMater2Ай бұрын
Robert said, it was uncomfortable. Jaime claimed, he sat comfortable, so the Throne has odd tastes.
@anujmudgal764
Ай бұрын
Jaime was worth of being a king If not taken as a kingsguard
@JohnDoe-vw4zf
23 күн бұрын
@@anujmudgal764lol what? He would be a terrible king
@iisomeoneii2091
22 күн бұрын
@@JohnDoe-vw4zfoutside of being manipulated by cersie and tywin i believe he’d be a good king He’s a brave warrior who fights his own battles and can lead armies he’s also smart and collected and can make difficult decisions and do horrible actions if the situation demands it yet he’s not entirely evil and bloodthirsty he’s also not that prideful and cocky to the point he doesn’t accept advice or get angered easily so all in all he’s definitely better than Joffrey and Robert
@DanteMoraes
17 күн бұрын
Jaime said the contrary, at least in agot when I read it
@DanteMoraes
17 күн бұрын
And guys, there is no such a thing as "good kings". Being a king is bad, fuck monarchy
@ajwinbergАй бұрын
I thought, and I am sure that this was in the books, that The throne was made the way it was on purpose. It was made so that whomever sat on it would never truly be comfortable because a King should never be comfortable. I don't remember ever reading anything in the books about the the king being rejected by the throne if they got cut. Sounds like a fan Theory to me.
@simsanimation1671
17 күн бұрын
I think you right
@avocado6623
12 күн бұрын
It's just an ai video I'm pretty sure. Half bullshit.
@user-oi2kn3ev9q
11 күн бұрын
You are right as it talks about it in the first book
@ElA-eb9pi
4 күн бұрын
It’s never explicitly pointed out in the book, because it’s symbolic, it doesn’t need to be made exprcssely clear.
@B.SpecterАй бұрын
Joffrey wasn't damaged, Aegon the first was cut and he build it. Its a throne made by swords so its normal to cut the ones who sits
@user-rv6cy9iv9c
Ай бұрын
No
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Joffrey got cut in the books
@ayecae47
Ай бұрын
Yes
@boburshoxallamurodov6415
Ай бұрын
Aegon wasn't strong enough to conquer the Dorn with 3 dragons. Thus, he was weak.
@zekethewise7042
Ай бұрын
Aegon the fat one never got cut
@angelmee5899Ай бұрын
If so joeffrey would have been slaughtered...
@arbesterreberebАй бұрын
Yeah, right. Basic logic: A chain or throne made of swords that disregard safety and built unrefined, clearly someone will get cut.
@pattonramming1988Ай бұрын
It's a metal chair made of swords
@yaboipalps8616
Ай бұрын
Forged with magical dragonfire....
@pattonramming1988
17 күн бұрын
@@yaboipalps8616 doesn't endow it with sentience
@kenyattaharmon5056Ай бұрын
Visery’s was an idiot. So many death could’ve been avoided if he didn’t do dumb things. He trusted anyone but his brother and put his daughter life on the line so often… Low-key a terrible King.🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@pascalzanon7721
12 минут бұрын
Very stupid, he's surrounded largely by idiots too, we just understood thanks to this comments which side you should be on
@CristianMartinez-yc6prАй бұрын
In the books it’s described as almost if the throne is living as those deemed unworthy are cut. So Rhaenyra, Viserys, Maegor, Aerys all cut. Joffrey only sat on it for a few months that’s why he never was cut. Robert hated the idea of ruling so much he probably only sat on the thing a handful of times. Yes it’s made of blades but Daeron II, Viserys II, and Jaehaerys I were never cut on it because they were deemed worthy rulers. I also don’t remember seeing anything of Aegon the conqueror being cut on the throne.
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Both Aegon I and Joffrey got cut
@sainag2076
7 күн бұрын
Robert is stated to regularly held Court so that means he Sat on the throne regularly. The found the seat uncomfortable because he got fat and his body did not fit perfectly ig
@Phantom199132 ай бұрын
Considering Aegon didn’t have much time to sit in it before his accident.
@carastone3473Ай бұрын
The freakin' throne is made of 1,000 BLADES (far less in GOT because many had been removed), so yeah, of course people who sit on it will get cuts! DUH!!
@oxnerdАй бұрын
Having his beloved wife be held down and cut open without even any reagent to knock her out makes him the worst.
@Peterminator-nj3od
Ай бұрын
Didn’t happened in books
@ilovepickle2931
Ай бұрын
Didn't happen in the books, she died from the birth, not the cesarean.
@oxnerd
Ай бұрын
@@ilovepickle2931 was it explicitly described? Dying from a birth can mean exactly what was shown in the show. The book wouldn’t have to explain an emergency c section because “complication from a child birth” means a lot of things. Either way, I think adding that moment in the show only accentuated Viscerys’ character.
@RAMI-m4w
Ай бұрын
he didn't has a choice it was either doing that to save the child or loose both of them
@homosapien6031
Ай бұрын
@@RAMI-m4w he could’ve knocked her out though
@nicksmithnutmilkАй бұрын
Aegon I - got cut Aenys - x Maegor - got cut Jaehaerys I - x Viserys I - got cut Aegon II - x Aegon III - x Daeron I - x Baelor - x Viserys II - x Aegon IV - got cut Daeron II - x Aerys I - x Maekar - x Aegon V - x Jaehaerys II - x Aerys II - got cut Robert - x Joffrey - got cut Tommen - x
@cemilesahin9637
Ай бұрын
When aegon I get cut?
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
@@cemilesahin9637 when he read the letter he got from Dorne
@RAMI-m4w
Ай бұрын
so aegon I wasn't worthy? bruh
@Whazupfam74
Ай бұрын
@@RAMI-m4whe was but people ignore it’s a throne of swords of course you’ll get cut
@RAMI-m4w
Ай бұрын
@@Whazupfam74 i mean magic abd curses are real thing in asoiaf world so it's not impossible for the throne to choose his owner
@user-vu5li1so7jАй бұрын
That throne taught Maegor a good lesson
@carastone3473
Ай бұрын
LOL! Yeah, it sure did!
@MessiXtoxicАй бұрын
Then why it didn’t cut jofrey 😂
@ysys2206
Ай бұрын
He was no king
@MrsCKane
Ай бұрын
Probably because you can't get blood from a stone. Also like the guy said before me, he was no king. Just a usurper. In the books I think he did get a cut from the iron throne on his arm. 🤔
@marcusmukungurutse688
Ай бұрын
It did cut joffrey and he cried for his mother
@m.williams4971
Ай бұрын
They’d removed most of the swords. C’mon!
@petrtrepes4542
Ай бұрын
Becaus realisticly tywim was ruler
@zekethewise7042Ай бұрын
Aegon the 2nd was never cut so by right he was fit to sit on the iron throne
@secrectpirate30962 ай бұрын
Ageon 4 had no cuts as well
@reginaldinoenchillada3513Ай бұрын
Stack up some blankets and pillows on it.
@senister14
Ай бұрын
No, a king can never rest, he must always be aware and be ready for anything.
@adrianusferreira96412 ай бұрын
Viserys was weak and naive. Raenys or Daemon should have been the monarch
@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hp
Ай бұрын
Daemon? The guy who murdered his wife, abandoned an entire kingdom when he got bored of ruling? The guy who groomed his niece and ordered the murder of literal children?!!?? Also Rhaeanys? Small folk murder?. Do I need to even go there?
@adrianusferreira9641
Ай бұрын
@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hp He murdered his wife in the series nothing is mentioned in the books. Besides that, he only left the reign after getting bored of Viserys weakness
@AbhijeetChouhanXD
Ай бұрын
@@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hpdaemon didn't murder his wife in the books
@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hp
Ай бұрын
@adrianusferreira9641 No I'm talking about the stepstones viserys had nothing to do with that imagine abandoning an entire nation to go groom your teenage niece.
@adrianusferreira9641
Ай бұрын
@@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hp Stepstones were never a kingdom
@cyanwarrior100Күн бұрын
“It’s a damned chair”
@kimiyajoy3814Ай бұрын
Its a chair that is made of swords not brains people you sit wrong you get stabbed
@HTJ733
Ай бұрын
It was build by dark magic..
@m.williams4971Ай бұрын
I suppose Aegon II didn’t get cut? There goes that theor. Next!
@senister14
Ай бұрын
Maybe he was right all along.
@csinne
15 күн бұрын
He didn’t, neither did Aemond (when he became prince regent) but it did cut rhaenyra
@senister14
15 күн бұрын
@@csinne yep, the chair knows all.
@markgrehan3726Ай бұрын
Should have bought some cushions.
@InstaTreePiptee2 күн бұрын
All that sh** for Bran The F**king Broken to sit on that chair
@Huhhh4308Ай бұрын
No swords are just sharp
@NargisK5718Ай бұрын
What you say is complete nonsense, if it were as you say then the throne would have cut off not only Viserys, Rhaenyra, Aerys and Maegor, but also Aegon the Unworthy, Aegon the Usurper and many more kings who didn’t deserve to sit on the Iron throne❗️
@Jarial72 ай бұрын
they should have gone to Aikea
@ImMeraDey5 күн бұрын
Deamon targaryen deserves The throne Throne want Deamon targaryen
@SwordsmanMikeАй бұрын
Did joffery got cut?
@paulraines9635
Ай бұрын
At least once.
@kenyattaharmon5056
Ай бұрын
In the books yes
@ksawerystankiewicz5562
Ай бұрын
In the books he's cut shortly after the battle of Blackwater, when he forces prisoners to switch allegiance from Stannis to him
@middlechild4870Ай бұрын
Robert, Tommen and Cersei. Did they received throne cuts in the books?
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Tommen is alive and well in the books , so Cersei never really sat on it . But neither Tommen or Robert got cut
@middlechild4870
Ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilk meaning to say... Robert and Tommen are fit to rule more than Viserys I?
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
@@middlechild4870 absolutely . Atleast Robert wasn't st*pid enough to name a girl his heir 😂😂 and Tommen is still a child in the books ( he's like 10 ) , mayble he will turn out as a great King
@rey0zw0rld
Ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilkyeah you should get checked for the degree of your stupidity; before blabbering about fiction, and how a girl shouldn’t rule just because u think gender has anything to do with general Eligibility to rule. What r u going to think of your daughter or your wife, or a niece or any girl who you meet by her misfortune ; and you say something utterly foolish like this? And she starts internalizing the fact that a grown adult thinks she can’t do anything and everything she wants in her life!
@user-vu5li1so7j
Ай бұрын
What are you talking about? Robert won that throne fair and square Baby Tommen is just a little boy with no power yet to claim that seat And Cersei has never sat on the throne
@saribmalik9853 күн бұрын
When you got blerion under you ofcourse no one could even questions you so peaceful it was 😂
@lucifer_d_falln1Күн бұрын
"that's an ugle chair and you will end up dying on it" - Visenya Targaryen (probably)
@kingrushy453311 күн бұрын
I feel like a king that actually been in combat and is battle hardened wouldn’t get cut so easily
@Arsh82322 күн бұрын
And now aegon come who sits on the throne like it is a chair😂
@OzzywozzyАй бұрын
Pine needles are better for a throne.
@suhailpasha.n8406Ай бұрын
The first episode of hod we see daemon sitting the iron throne.. yet he's capable of ruling 7 kingdoms
@ThatOneDude76 күн бұрын
Viserys' reign is considered the apex not because he was the best, but because it was only downhill after his reign.
@bhavsarvacha18 күн бұрын
It's just simple thing that the throne seat was made full of swords which were old n rusted and obviously it will cut anybody who seats on that sword seat n infect them
@melvinvg063218 күн бұрын
How the bloody hell was Joffrey unharmed when his spoiled arse was on the throne then😳😳
@dubbed-inirish7813Ай бұрын
I don’t think that’s accurate I’m pretty sure that was theory and not in the books because while Maegor was known for being ruthless he build the red keep and put down the faith wars, viserys rules in peace only until his death when he let the succession line get murky did things go bad, and aegon was cut while building it yet he conquered and made the 7 kingdoms or at least 6
@deityjc19 күн бұрын
There is no deeper meaning besides the throne reminding the ruler of the dangers of power. I'm pretty sure it was said that just about every King was cut on the throne.
@cobycox6509Күн бұрын
Or maybe its a seat made of extremely sharp swords and it would be next to impossible not to get a cut from time to time 😂😂
@crowe.altius7078Ай бұрын
"She likely gripped the damn thing too hard"
@DanteMoraes17 күн бұрын
I think that has much more to do with the position consuming a person's flesh and soul than rejection tbh
@Whazupfam74Ай бұрын
Rhaenrya was worthy of sitting the iron throne also by this point she lost 2 sons to get it so she’s probably in grief and she held the chair to tight anyways if your cut it also means your days of ruling are few
@goochmcduck428521 күн бұрын
It’s like the sorting hat
@brianarnold866621 күн бұрын
"Peaceful" yeah, cause he ignored the triarchy
@LoveShallPrevailАй бұрын
Oh, so that’s what it meant when Viserys cuts his finger on the throne in the show.
@BlueBerryZerpyАй бұрын
People only considered Viserys' reign as the apex of the Targaryen Dynasty because Jaehaerys carried almost everything on his back and Maegor f*cked the potential enemies of the Targaryen dynasty. Viserys inherited a peaceful era of the Seven Kingdoms with a fat load of coins and the Lords and Ladies are already satisfied with the status quo. To be honest, he was one of the reason why the Dance happened.
@matthewriley7826Ай бұрын
Wonder if we’ll get a similar scene with Rhaenyra….
@perlagonzalez27342 күн бұрын
Kind of reminds me of the ring of the lucii from final fantasy XV
@DMES-wp2fj2 күн бұрын
Wasn't Viserys a good king? Who actually was for the people? And a wise one for not letting his ego dictate his moves.
@Shisui575218 күн бұрын
I'm really interested in learning about Aerys before he became the "Mad King". In every video I've watched so far, it seems like he was good, up until the paranoia.
@shshshs220 күн бұрын
Soooo in the book, who is the king that didn’t get cut by the throne and the throne deemed worthy
@sarahxsera20 күн бұрын
Well thats the point id the throne. Its not for them to sit on it merely...its a responsibility. Its supposed to be uncomfortable. Kinda like a reminder that where you stand is a place of responsibility and not some place you can lay down and relax
@livies232525 күн бұрын
I jist remembered that daemon sat on it in the beginning of s-1 and probably didnnto get cut so😅😅
@NZXT620 күн бұрын
Why the F did joffrey didn’t get cut then???
@rickyverian473227 күн бұрын
Im sure the books say, the throne itself not made to be comfortable.. symbolize the throne itself is heavy burden for the one who sit on it, the king should never be feel comfortable....
@troyburnexАй бұрын
Rhaenyra was chosen by the gods to be heir to the throne, there were signs of her being the rightful heir. Hater her or not, she is the rightful heir to the throne
@qdom2483
Ай бұрын
No
@troyburnex
Ай бұрын
@@qdom2483 why do you say "No"? Did you even read the books? You're just watching the show and coming to this coclusion
@qdom2483
Ай бұрын
@@troyburnex no
@user-vu5li1so7j
Ай бұрын
Nah.. Rhaenyra being the heir was the result of Viserys stupidity According to the law the throne goes to the eldest male son Like it or not Aegon was the rightful King
@Whazupfam74
Ай бұрын
@@user-vu5li1so7jactually it doesn’t the great council favoured viserys over rhaenys despite being older it’s more opinion the male is chosen
@bobbywonder457422 күн бұрын
he was a coward and a weakling, and he ripped his family into pieces
@soniacarmona184529 күн бұрын
I think everyone got cut by it. If you notice how Otto was sitting on it , he was avoiding the cuts from the damned chair. By sitting at the very edge of it. I mean what possessed Aegon to make a throne from swords?? Or was he high on Milk of the poppy. 😂😂😂
@sindk212010 күн бұрын
Well thy are sitting on swords which sharp ,so the probability of getting cut is more
@prafulyadav6616 күн бұрын
It was supposed to cut everybody who doesn't sit cautiously or sits too comfortably, symbolising that the leadership isn't something to enjoy privileges rather it's to suffer with extra responsibilities and duties. Joff didn't get cut, Bobby B didn't get cut, Aegon the first got cut. Your theory is BS
@andiotrebac65835 күн бұрын
Whose idea was it to turn swords into chair anyways lol
@OTGGaming059428 күн бұрын
They sat easy on a throne made of blades. Of course, they were not good kings. And Raenyra gripped the throne too hard after her sons died for it.
@niclas1924Ай бұрын
Even Aegon the Conquerer had cuts, because the throne is made of blades...it had nothing to do with the monarch being "unworthy"
@nut_thecorrupt56543 күн бұрын
The cope in these comments is actually insane lmao
@majestic805414 күн бұрын
Yet Bobby B, Joffrey, and Aegon IV were left unharmed? Who is the Iron Throne choosing???
@gyleortiz9653Ай бұрын
Aegon the unworthy and Jeffery apparently didnt need any cuts. The throne has shooty judgement at best lol
@marcovanrooyen754915 күн бұрын
Bro he got sick😂😂
@RubenDeanda-lb9wrАй бұрын
And Joffrey , Cersei
@nimeshpandey434317 күн бұрын
Did ned and tywin got cut
@fivenightsatfreddysgameswo968911 күн бұрын
Why wouldn't they just make a new one lol
@tessiaeralith1504Ай бұрын
King scab ? Cyraxx you mean 😂😂
@tubfellow11 күн бұрын
Yeah, say what you want, Viserys was a great guy and all… but at the end of the day his lack of foresight fucked everything up
@jasyon232926 күн бұрын
Rhaenyra saw the white stag in the woods which means they where they choose her to be the heir so why the throne rejected her now?
@user-xu3hf3wb5k23 күн бұрын
It didnt cut Jaime Lannister, when he was resting his backside on it😂
@jithinraj1830Ай бұрын
Y they cannot change the design and Apply some Cushion on it?... They don't have this common sense. If they cannot sit there properly,Then how can they rule properly?
@NobleLady2024Ай бұрын
Make a safer throne.
@tirtham94884 күн бұрын
He's the reason for the dance of the dragons. If he was a great king ge would have had Daemon Targaryen and Rahen
@Shepardcomander-p8m23 күн бұрын
... A throne of razor blades....bruh
@asaduzniloy438810 күн бұрын
viserys inherited a prosperous kingdom left by jaherys, not of his own making
@joaopedrocavalcante31846 күн бұрын
Mauro só errou em um dado, a Alemanha em 2014 massacrou Portugal na fase de grupos.
@Sithum_Dulran14 сағат бұрын
So Aegon laying on it means he is worthy
@jewferigno692023 күн бұрын
Obviously crap cause Jeffery didn't get cut
@know846Ай бұрын
For all the dumb people say Jeffery wasn't is because when he died he didn't let a chain of events which led to down fall of kingdom but visery and rhenyra and ageon the unworthy they all were not fit to rule and left the kingdom in long-term ruin
@phankhanhvi4592Ай бұрын
Has any character not cut even once? In the show and in the book
@ChessShaastraАй бұрын
He was undoubtedly unworthy, so was his selfish daughter!
@troyburnex
Ай бұрын
Rhaenyra was worthy to the Throne, the gods gave signs that she would be the one on the throne. She is the rightful heir
@kap2652
Ай бұрын
@@troyburnex she was no rightful heir gods chose her because of a deer but Cole saw it and crowned aegon was he chosen let me guess no because it only means something for her she was trying to place illegitimates on the throne she was not worthy
@theophilussogoromo3000Ай бұрын
His reign was peaceful because of his predecessor.
@kunal_3949Ай бұрын
Drogon rejected iron throne
@anthonys.lourenco1889Ай бұрын
Jaehaerys I was the best king in Westerosi history, that shouldn't even be a question.
@Samuel-oi8qlАй бұрын
He had his fingers cut off because he was sick
@vamseevinjavarapu55902 ай бұрын
Probably daemon would have been worthy to sit on iron throne.
@aishahamma334
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Berserker--18
Ай бұрын
Yes daemon would have protected Targaryen legacy by putting these hightower scums on spike. Viserys made mistake by naming a soft girl his heir
@qdom2483
Ай бұрын
@@Berserker--18Targaryens are more scum than the hightowers lmao
@Berserker--18
Ай бұрын
@@qdom2483 it depends on perspective. Some Targaryen were too insane while a bunch of them were kind hearted. But hightower were always involved in conspiracy against the Targaryen but sadly they never succeeded. And we also don't know whether all hightower were as kind as citadel claimed because masters were heavily biased and glorified hightower though they were main culprit of dance
@rubyrose5035Ай бұрын
“It’s made up of swords” y’all do realize that this is not a show based off logic it’s a show with dragons in it are you serious they god rejected deal with it
@sigmamale95065 күн бұрын
This is nonsense, the throne has no mythical power,viserys had leprosy.
@khazmajr9420Ай бұрын
But why The Rogue Prince is not have the cut in the series?
@drrohanjacob
Ай бұрын
The throne cuts the indecisive not the cruel or the dumb.
@panzer6gamerАй бұрын
Just lay some lather skins protect yourself from sharp edges 😂😂😂 you cannot sit knifes 😅
@firstkingz5467Ай бұрын
The throne was made with sword so what do u expect smh
@anakatrinaroadilla263523 күн бұрын
Viserys as apex of targaryen power. Heck no. He's weak and easily manipulated
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Yet joffrey remained cut free
@Nope77252
2 ай бұрын
No he was cut in the books
@someone-wo5nu
2 ай бұрын
He was a strong king. Evil but strong
@JS-ss1en
Ай бұрын
Then Joffrey was fit to rule and we were all wrong about him 🤣
@Spizy073
Ай бұрын
@@someone-wo5nu bro was not strong
@MariusVayne85
Ай бұрын
The chair wanted to reject him but not worth for a cunt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They got rejected by the throne by sitting on it. The throne haven’t been maden for sitting. If you are a suitable ruler, you will not just sit on your ass, instead you will take the responsibility and go to battles, go to streets and solve the problems on your own.
@armiyakhan2504
Ай бұрын
That is the most insightful pov I have come across🙌
@Flipindabird23
Ай бұрын
What an eloquent way to put it! I was like no shit people got cut on a throne made of swords lmao.
@carastone3473
Ай бұрын
@@armiyakhan2504 It's not new insight. It's literally explained in Fire & Blood as the reason Aegon made the throne this way...and he came right out and said it.
@Ashbrash1998
Ай бұрын
It's also a sword made of knives like if you sit on lazily your gonna cut yourself
@javijavi8976
20 күн бұрын
Never thought of it like that very true
Robert said, it was uncomfortable. Jaime claimed, he sat comfortable, so the Throne has odd tastes.
@anujmudgal764
Ай бұрын
Jaime was worth of being a king If not taken as a kingsguard
@JohnDoe-vw4zf
23 күн бұрын
@@anujmudgal764lol what? He would be a terrible king
@iisomeoneii2091
22 күн бұрын
@@JohnDoe-vw4zfoutside of being manipulated by cersie and tywin i believe he’d be a good king He’s a brave warrior who fights his own battles and can lead armies he’s also smart and collected and can make difficult decisions and do horrible actions if the situation demands it yet he’s not entirely evil and bloodthirsty he’s also not that prideful and cocky to the point he doesn’t accept advice or get angered easily so all in all he’s definitely better than Joffrey and Robert
@DanteMoraes
17 күн бұрын
Jaime said the contrary, at least in agot when I read it
@DanteMoraes
17 күн бұрын
And guys, there is no such a thing as "good kings". Being a king is bad, fuck monarchy
I thought, and I am sure that this was in the books, that The throne was made the way it was on purpose. It was made so that whomever sat on it would never truly be comfortable because a King should never be comfortable. I don't remember ever reading anything in the books about the the king being rejected by the throne if they got cut. Sounds like a fan Theory to me.
@simsanimation1671
17 күн бұрын
I think you right
@avocado6623
12 күн бұрын
It's just an ai video I'm pretty sure. Half bullshit.
@user-oi2kn3ev9q
11 күн бұрын
You are right as it talks about it in the first book
@ElA-eb9pi
4 күн бұрын
It’s never explicitly pointed out in the book, because it’s symbolic, it doesn’t need to be made exprcssely clear.
Joffrey wasn't damaged, Aegon the first was cut and he build it. Its a throne made by swords so its normal to cut the ones who sits
@user-rv6cy9iv9c
Ай бұрын
No
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Joffrey got cut in the books
@ayecae47
Ай бұрын
Yes
@boburshoxallamurodov6415
Ай бұрын
Aegon wasn't strong enough to conquer the Dorn with 3 dragons. Thus, he was weak.
@zekethewise7042
Ай бұрын
Aegon the fat one never got cut
If so joeffrey would have been slaughtered...
Yeah, right. Basic logic: A chain or throne made of swords that disregard safety and built unrefined, clearly someone will get cut.
It's a metal chair made of swords
@yaboipalps8616
Ай бұрын
Forged with magical dragonfire....
@pattonramming1988
17 күн бұрын
@@yaboipalps8616 doesn't endow it with sentience
Visery’s was an idiot. So many death could’ve been avoided if he didn’t do dumb things. He trusted anyone but his brother and put his daughter life on the line so often… Low-key a terrible King.🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@pascalzanon7721
12 минут бұрын
Very stupid, he's surrounded largely by idiots too, we just understood thanks to this comments which side you should be on
In the books it’s described as almost if the throne is living as those deemed unworthy are cut. So Rhaenyra, Viserys, Maegor, Aerys all cut. Joffrey only sat on it for a few months that’s why he never was cut. Robert hated the idea of ruling so much he probably only sat on the thing a handful of times. Yes it’s made of blades but Daeron II, Viserys II, and Jaehaerys I were never cut on it because they were deemed worthy rulers. I also don’t remember seeing anything of Aegon the conqueror being cut on the throne.
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Both Aegon I and Joffrey got cut
@sainag2076
7 күн бұрын
Robert is stated to regularly held Court so that means he Sat on the throne regularly. The found the seat uncomfortable because he got fat and his body did not fit perfectly ig
Considering Aegon didn’t have much time to sit in it before his accident.
The freakin' throne is made of 1,000 BLADES (far less in GOT because many had been removed), so yeah, of course people who sit on it will get cuts! DUH!!
Having his beloved wife be held down and cut open without even any reagent to knock her out makes him the worst.
@Peterminator-nj3od
Ай бұрын
Didn’t happened in books
@ilovepickle2931
Ай бұрын
Didn't happen in the books, she died from the birth, not the cesarean.
@oxnerd
Ай бұрын
@@ilovepickle2931 was it explicitly described? Dying from a birth can mean exactly what was shown in the show. The book wouldn’t have to explain an emergency c section because “complication from a child birth” means a lot of things. Either way, I think adding that moment in the show only accentuated Viscerys’ character.
@RAMI-m4w
Ай бұрын
he didn't has a choice it was either doing that to save the child or loose both of them
@homosapien6031
Ай бұрын
@@RAMI-m4w he could’ve knocked her out though
Aegon I - got cut Aenys - x Maegor - got cut Jaehaerys I - x Viserys I - got cut Aegon II - x Aegon III - x Daeron I - x Baelor - x Viserys II - x Aegon IV - got cut Daeron II - x Aerys I - x Maekar - x Aegon V - x Jaehaerys II - x Aerys II - got cut Robert - x Joffrey - got cut Tommen - x
@cemilesahin9637
Ай бұрын
When aegon I get cut?
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
@@cemilesahin9637 when he read the letter he got from Dorne
@RAMI-m4w
Ай бұрын
so aegon I wasn't worthy? bruh
@Whazupfam74
Ай бұрын
@@RAMI-m4whe was but people ignore it’s a throne of swords of course you’ll get cut
@RAMI-m4w
Ай бұрын
@@Whazupfam74 i mean magic abd curses are real thing in asoiaf world so it's not impossible for the throne to choose his owner
That throne taught Maegor a good lesson
@carastone3473
Ай бұрын
LOL! Yeah, it sure did!
Then why it didn’t cut jofrey 😂
@ysys2206
Ай бұрын
He was no king
@MrsCKane
Ай бұрын
Probably because you can't get blood from a stone. Also like the guy said before me, he was no king. Just a usurper. In the books I think he did get a cut from the iron throne on his arm. 🤔
@marcusmukungurutse688
Ай бұрын
It did cut joffrey and he cried for his mother
@m.williams4971
Ай бұрын
They’d removed most of the swords. C’mon!
@petrtrepes4542
Ай бұрын
Becaus realisticly tywim was ruler
Aegon the 2nd was never cut so by right he was fit to sit on the iron throne
Ageon 4 had no cuts as well
Stack up some blankets and pillows on it.
@senister14
Ай бұрын
No, a king can never rest, he must always be aware and be ready for anything.
Viserys was weak and naive. Raenys or Daemon should have been the monarch
@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hp
Ай бұрын
Daemon? The guy who murdered his wife, abandoned an entire kingdom when he got bored of ruling? The guy who groomed his niece and ordered the murder of literal children?!!?? Also Rhaeanys? Small folk murder?. Do I need to even go there?
@adrianusferreira9641
Ай бұрын
@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hp He murdered his wife in the series nothing is mentioned in the books. Besides that, he only left the reign after getting bored of Viserys weakness
@AbhijeetChouhanXD
Ай бұрын
@@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hpdaemon didn't murder his wife in the books
@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hp
Ай бұрын
@adrianusferreira9641 No I'm talking about the stepstones viserys had nothing to do with that imagine abandoning an entire nation to go groom your teenage niece.
@adrianusferreira9641
Ай бұрын
@@TheOneTrueKing-hq6hp Stepstones were never a kingdom
“It’s a damned chair”
Its a chair that is made of swords not brains people you sit wrong you get stabbed
@HTJ733
Ай бұрын
It was build by dark magic..
I suppose Aegon II didn’t get cut? There goes that theor. Next!
@senister14
Ай бұрын
Maybe he was right all along.
@csinne
15 күн бұрын
He didn’t, neither did Aemond (when he became prince regent) but it did cut rhaenyra
@senister14
15 күн бұрын
@@csinne yep, the chair knows all.
Should have bought some cushions.
All that sh** for Bran The F**king Broken to sit on that chair
No swords are just sharp
What you say is complete nonsense, if it were as you say then the throne would have cut off not only Viserys, Rhaenyra, Aerys and Maegor, but also Aegon the Unworthy, Aegon the Usurper and many more kings who didn’t deserve to sit on the Iron throne❗️
they should have gone to Aikea
Deamon targaryen deserves The throne Throne want Deamon targaryen
Did joffery got cut?
@paulraines9635
Ай бұрын
At least once.
@kenyattaharmon5056
Ай бұрын
In the books yes
@ksawerystankiewicz5562
Ай бұрын
In the books he's cut shortly after the battle of Blackwater, when he forces prisoners to switch allegiance from Stannis to him
Robert, Tommen and Cersei. Did they received throne cuts in the books?
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Tommen is alive and well in the books , so Cersei never really sat on it . But neither Tommen or Robert got cut
@middlechild4870
Ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilk meaning to say... Robert and Tommen are fit to rule more than Viserys I?
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
@@middlechild4870 absolutely . Atleast Robert wasn't st*pid enough to name a girl his heir 😂😂 and Tommen is still a child in the books ( he's like 10 ) , mayble he will turn out as a great King
@rey0zw0rld
Ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilkyeah you should get checked for the degree of your stupidity; before blabbering about fiction, and how a girl shouldn’t rule just because u think gender has anything to do with general Eligibility to rule. What r u going to think of your daughter or your wife, or a niece or any girl who you meet by her misfortune ; and you say something utterly foolish like this? And she starts internalizing the fact that a grown adult thinks she can’t do anything and everything she wants in her life!
@user-vu5li1so7j
Ай бұрын
What are you talking about? Robert won that throne fair and square Baby Tommen is just a little boy with no power yet to claim that seat And Cersei has never sat on the throne
When you got blerion under you ofcourse no one could even questions you so peaceful it was 😂
"that's an ugle chair and you will end up dying on it" - Visenya Targaryen (probably)
I feel like a king that actually been in combat and is battle hardened wouldn’t get cut so easily
And now aegon come who sits on the throne like it is a chair😂
Pine needles are better for a throne.
The first episode of hod we see daemon sitting the iron throne.. yet he's capable of ruling 7 kingdoms
Viserys' reign is considered the apex not because he was the best, but because it was only downhill after his reign.
It's just simple thing that the throne seat was made full of swords which were old n rusted and obviously it will cut anybody who seats on that sword seat n infect them
How the bloody hell was Joffrey unharmed when his spoiled arse was on the throne then😳😳
I don’t think that’s accurate I’m pretty sure that was theory and not in the books because while Maegor was known for being ruthless he build the red keep and put down the faith wars, viserys rules in peace only until his death when he let the succession line get murky did things go bad, and aegon was cut while building it yet he conquered and made the 7 kingdoms or at least 6
There is no deeper meaning besides the throne reminding the ruler of the dangers of power. I'm pretty sure it was said that just about every King was cut on the throne.
Or maybe its a seat made of extremely sharp swords and it would be next to impossible not to get a cut from time to time 😂😂
"She likely gripped the damn thing too hard"
I think that has much more to do with the position consuming a person's flesh and soul than rejection tbh
Rhaenrya was worthy of sitting the iron throne also by this point she lost 2 sons to get it so she’s probably in grief and she held the chair to tight anyways if your cut it also means your days of ruling are few
It’s like the sorting hat
"Peaceful" yeah, cause he ignored the triarchy
Oh, so that’s what it meant when Viserys cuts his finger on the throne in the show.
People only considered Viserys' reign as the apex of the Targaryen Dynasty because Jaehaerys carried almost everything on his back and Maegor f*cked the potential enemies of the Targaryen dynasty. Viserys inherited a peaceful era of the Seven Kingdoms with a fat load of coins and the Lords and Ladies are already satisfied with the status quo. To be honest, he was one of the reason why the Dance happened.
Wonder if we’ll get a similar scene with Rhaenyra….
Kind of reminds me of the ring of the lucii from final fantasy XV
Wasn't Viserys a good king? Who actually was for the people? And a wise one for not letting his ego dictate his moves.
I'm really interested in learning about Aerys before he became the "Mad King". In every video I've watched so far, it seems like he was good, up until the paranoia.
Soooo in the book, who is the king that didn’t get cut by the throne and the throne deemed worthy
Well thats the point id the throne. Its not for them to sit on it merely...its a responsibility. Its supposed to be uncomfortable. Kinda like a reminder that where you stand is a place of responsibility and not some place you can lay down and relax
I jist remembered that daemon sat on it in the beginning of s-1 and probably didnnto get cut so😅😅
Why the F did joffrey didn’t get cut then???
Im sure the books say, the throne itself not made to be comfortable.. symbolize the throne itself is heavy burden for the one who sit on it, the king should never be feel comfortable....
Rhaenyra was chosen by the gods to be heir to the throne, there were signs of her being the rightful heir. Hater her or not, she is the rightful heir to the throne
@qdom2483
Ай бұрын
No
@troyburnex
Ай бұрын
@@qdom2483 why do you say "No"? Did you even read the books? You're just watching the show and coming to this coclusion
@qdom2483
Ай бұрын
@@troyburnex no
@user-vu5li1so7j
Ай бұрын
Nah.. Rhaenyra being the heir was the result of Viserys stupidity According to the law the throne goes to the eldest male son Like it or not Aegon was the rightful King
@Whazupfam74
Ай бұрын
@@user-vu5li1so7jactually it doesn’t the great council favoured viserys over rhaenys despite being older it’s more opinion the male is chosen
he was a coward and a weakling, and he ripped his family into pieces
I think everyone got cut by it. If you notice how Otto was sitting on it , he was avoiding the cuts from the damned chair. By sitting at the very edge of it. I mean what possessed Aegon to make a throne from swords?? Or was he high on Milk of the poppy. 😂😂😂
Well thy are sitting on swords which sharp ,so the probability of getting cut is more
It was supposed to cut everybody who doesn't sit cautiously or sits too comfortably, symbolising that the leadership isn't something to enjoy privileges rather it's to suffer with extra responsibilities and duties. Joff didn't get cut, Bobby B didn't get cut, Aegon the first got cut. Your theory is BS
Whose idea was it to turn swords into chair anyways lol
They sat easy on a throne made of blades. Of course, they were not good kings. And Raenyra gripped the throne too hard after her sons died for it.
Even Aegon the Conquerer had cuts, because the throne is made of blades...it had nothing to do with the monarch being "unworthy"
The cope in these comments is actually insane lmao
Yet Bobby B, Joffrey, and Aegon IV were left unharmed? Who is the Iron Throne choosing???
Aegon the unworthy and Jeffery apparently didnt need any cuts. The throne has shooty judgement at best lol
Bro he got sick😂😂
And Joffrey , Cersei
Did ned and tywin got cut
Why wouldn't they just make a new one lol
King scab ? Cyraxx you mean 😂😂
Yeah, say what you want, Viserys was a great guy and all… but at the end of the day his lack of foresight fucked everything up
Rhaenyra saw the white stag in the woods which means they where they choose her to be the heir so why the throne rejected her now?
It didnt cut Jaime Lannister, when he was resting his backside on it😂
Y they cannot change the design and Apply some Cushion on it?... They don't have this common sense. If they cannot sit there properly,Then how can they rule properly?
Make a safer throne.
He's the reason for the dance of the dragons. If he was a great king ge would have had Daemon Targaryen and Rahen
... A throne of razor blades....bruh
viserys inherited a prosperous kingdom left by jaherys, not of his own making
Mauro só errou em um dado, a Alemanha em 2014 massacrou Portugal na fase de grupos.
So Aegon laying on it means he is worthy
Obviously crap cause Jeffery didn't get cut
For all the dumb people say Jeffery wasn't is because when he died he didn't let a chain of events which led to down fall of kingdom but visery and rhenyra and ageon the unworthy they all were not fit to rule and left the kingdom in long-term ruin
Has any character not cut even once? In the show and in the book
He was undoubtedly unworthy, so was his selfish daughter!
@troyburnex
Ай бұрын
Rhaenyra was worthy to the Throne, the gods gave signs that she would be the one on the throne. She is the rightful heir
@kap2652
Ай бұрын
@@troyburnex she was no rightful heir gods chose her because of a deer but Cole saw it and crowned aegon was he chosen let me guess no because it only means something for her she was trying to place illegitimates on the throne she was not worthy
His reign was peaceful because of his predecessor.
Drogon rejected iron throne
Jaehaerys I was the best king in Westerosi history, that shouldn't even be a question.
He had his fingers cut off because he was sick
Probably daemon would have been worthy to sit on iron throne.
@aishahamma334
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Berserker--18
Ай бұрын
Yes daemon would have protected Targaryen legacy by putting these hightower scums on spike. Viserys made mistake by naming a soft girl his heir
@qdom2483
Ай бұрын
@@Berserker--18Targaryens are more scum than the hightowers lmao
@Berserker--18
Ай бұрын
@@qdom2483 it depends on perspective. Some Targaryen were too insane while a bunch of them were kind hearted. But hightower were always involved in conspiracy against the Targaryen but sadly they never succeeded. And we also don't know whether all hightower were as kind as citadel claimed because masters were heavily biased and glorified hightower though they were main culprit of dance
“It’s made up of swords” y’all do realize that this is not a show based off logic it’s a show with dragons in it are you serious they god rejected deal with it
This is nonsense, the throne has no mythical power,viserys had leprosy.
But why The Rogue Prince is not have the cut in the series?
@drrohanjacob
Ай бұрын
The throne cuts the indecisive not the cruel or the dumb.
Just lay some lather skins protect yourself from sharp edges 😂😂😂 you cannot sit knifes 😅
The throne was made with sword so what do u expect smh
Viserys as apex of targaryen power. Heck no. He's weak and easily manipulated