"We live in the shadows of racism, discrimination and oppression, daily" Yeah right. Most travellers i've met which is a lot when you total it up have been racist, discriminatory and opressive to others speech.

@snowtfl5617

2 жыл бұрын

They don’t help themselves with how much they endorse and protect criminality it’s sad to say but they’ve got no one but themselves to blame

@daz_c7505

2 жыл бұрын

anecdotal

@Emerald_Forge

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, most people have the mentality that if you're racist then you can only expect and or deserve it back so that's why very few actually stick up for them.

@techrambler2746

2 жыл бұрын

It's not all their fault. With all the red tape in our society they often can't access basic services like education for their children.

@snowtfl5617

2 жыл бұрын

@@techrambler2746 with all do respect that’s bull they pull their kids out off basic education I used to go school with travelers they all left after primary they think they are above the law setting up camps wherever stealing and robbing thinking their bad because they have a bunch of other travelers to back them as soon as they lose a fight it’s embarrassing they think they have the right to complain I’ve got no love for them I know you can’t judge someone based off something like their group but most travelers I’ve met nice or not can’t be trusted simple as that

I'm Irish and can speak from first hand experience. The majority of travelers I've met are pricks and claim to be victims yet all they do is cause problems. Get jobs, clean your area and be nicer to people and watch how people respond then.

@kggg5469

2 жыл бұрын

Fr

@aaronmccardie8795

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@outsidersongs2682

2 жыл бұрын

What does being Irish have to do with it? Unless you are an Irish Traveller. If you are not, then you are not qualified to state anything and are actually just spreading dirt. (You cannot claim any authority)

@a.c4373

2 жыл бұрын

@@outsidersongs2682 if only the travellers can comment on this topic than it is just going to be one sided and biased. Go back to school kid

@hyper7354

2 жыл бұрын

@@outsidersongs2682 We are all Irish and from the same community of course we can comment on it. Otherwise there would be no discussion, it wouldn’t just be one party complaining. You make zero sense

They call out racism but why don’t they stand up and take ownership for how the majority of Irish Travellers behave!!! The abuse they give people for no reason other than they feel entitled to a free pass in life, they love to act the victim but please don’t be fooled the travelling community causes most of their own problems

@wendyrowland7787

2 жыл бұрын

And they leave many victims in their wake, including slavery of vulnerable people.

@zechariah3234

2 жыл бұрын

Funny black people are the same

@castorchua

2 жыл бұрын

@@zechariah3234 Funny black people like Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle?

@zechariah3234

2 жыл бұрын

@@castorchua no like Garry Coleman

@nigelraporam6917

2 жыл бұрын

Their not even a race just because they live caravans and own horses doesn't mean their distinct

Travelers stormed in the restaurant I was working and started insulting the staff and racially abusing a couple that was seated next to them. They then proceeded to steal our tip jars and when we asked them to leave they accused us of being racists and smashed the tip jar on the floor. We had to call the police. One of my colleague who was barely 18 had a panic attack as they kept shouting at her and threatening her for not giving them free food. When the police arrived they still would not leave. I’m sure there’s great people in the traveler’s community and those suffering deserve respect and support regardless of their ethnic origin. However it’s not up to society to stop fearing them and worrying about them. It’s up to them to do more to change peoples perception.

@pria7538

2 жыл бұрын

Hello, is a traveler the same as an immigrant? American here so I’m trying to understand? Are they gypsy? Thank you.

@geraldineosullivan3001

2 жыл бұрын

​@@pria7538 They're not immigrants. They are native Irish people who formed their own sub-culture at some point. They may have been people who were kicked out of their homes by the Brits during their "to hell or to Connaught" tirade, and took to a nomadic lifestyle as a way to survive and by doing odd jobs for people. It's not known for sure. Brits destroyed a lot of records from way back, so it's all guesswork. But many of them were craftsmen and would make or mend things for people in exchange for payment or even food to feed their families. They were a peaceful people. Discrimination has probably led to some of what is happening today with modern Travellers (or some modern Travellers). People looked down on them and I suppose that some people who feel marginalised eventually turn to crime. If you can't find work because people discriminate, what is left for you? Things are getting better and people aren't as small minded as they were. There are now routes to third level education open for Travellers that weren't there before. Many Travellers are just regular people who want to work, get on with their lives, and not be lumped into the same bracket as those who cause trouble. They are not to be confused with Roma gypsies. They're a whole other kettle o'fish. Oh and let me tell you, I've never run into problems with Irish Travellers personally. But, Roma gypsies have tried to rob me twice in broad daylight. I'm afraid of Romas, especially when they are hanging around in groups, and avoid them like the plague now. I have no reason to be afraid of Travellers.

@hunterluxton5976

2 жыл бұрын

@@pria7538 no, the term " travellers" is a polite way to describe gypsies. They refer to non gypsies as " gorgers" . Most people refer to them as either gypos or didycoys

@pria7538

2 жыл бұрын

@@geraldineosullivan3001 Thank you so much. I needed that clarity not being from there and all.

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

@@hunterluxton5976 Really? "Travellers", in UK, can refer also to a subset of would be hippies who "travel" in convoys of old lorries, buses and vans. The police generally just move them on as soon as. They are usually regarded as "vermin". Farmers protect their fields by placing huge concrete blocks in front of the gates. This stops them setting up camps. Gypsies, as opposed to hippie travellers, are generally quite wealthy (don't ask ... some may recall a recent theft going wrong and police officer being dragged to his death) and as a group have bought land so they can stay for a period without being moved on. Various groups stay on this land in a sort of rotation thing. They have excellent lines of communication and cell phones must have been like finding the holy grail. They are not renowned for being good neighbours tho'. That said some gypsies live in houses and their children attend school. They do have ancient rights and a Google of "Horsey Fair" will explain the history. Travellers, as in the hippie group are different to gypsies (pejorative term being "pikeys") although they do share the practice of leaving places resembling pigsties. Travellers tend to "impose" themselves at festivals and some have insisted on a "bribe" to leave. Many years ago a group of travellers "visited" a festival in Cornwall known as "Elephant Fayre" and set up "camp". They resorted to all sorts of scams to abstract money from the "ordinary" visitors. Rumour has it they even resorted to prostituting their underage children. Some would invade a rural supermarket, piss in the freezers then wait a few minutes for the disgusted staff to chuck the contents into the waste bins. The travellers would take the discarded food, generally plastic wrapped, and eat it themselves. Best to avoid both types.

I think the problem is from what I’ve witnessed several times, is priding themselves on being as antisocial and as uncomfortable to others as possible, also untouchable through extreme violence and intimidation with a pack mentality. Then hide behind racism if anyone criticises the behaviour.

@calvinhoward3808

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so confused. How do you all tell them apart? Aren't they white? Are these Gypsyies?

@bojack3827

2 жыл бұрын

You're tarring all of them with the same brush which shows you're own prejudices.

@c.9900

2 жыл бұрын

@@bojack3827 Perhaps you should experience them pitching up caravans on land near you. You may find you change your opinion remarkably quickly

@bojack3827

2 жыл бұрын

@@c.9900 That's like saying you got mugged by a black man, therefore all black men are muggers. Check your own biases.

@c.9900

2 жыл бұрын

You're speaking to a British born Yoruba man. My 'biases' are formed through my own experiences with their community after being repeatedly called the 'N' word.

Im open minded but every experience i have had with travellers has been negative. Assault, threats, theft, intimidation, waste on parks near mine - Its hard not to prejudge when you have only had bad experiences and no positive ones at all. I hate stereotypes but how about stop proving it right?

@aaronmccardie8795

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@Bhethar

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Despite the best attempts at being nice to them I got several threats of violence if I didn’t hand them over free food. Whenever they would come in my restaurant we had to be alert as they used to steal and throw food around.

@jamilsmart1236

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds soo bad. In comparison they are killing themselves. Soooo I wonder who’s being treated worse. Irish are saying they are a nuisance and behave poorly. And Travelers are killing themselves due to how they are being treated

@kb4903

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamilsmart1236 is it just treatment or pressure from within to not branch out, get married as a teen, not have a career and live in a way that disconnects you from society? Sure those all play factors too.

@LordDaret

2 жыл бұрын

I also hate stereotypes, but stereotypes exists because people notice patterns, and the patterns here are not good.

The comments say it all really. Most people have unpleasant experience with them

@houdini5538

2 жыл бұрын

How is it racism when these people and those discriminating against them are both white?

@patrickmulloy8787

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately you are right. I have had very good traveller friends but both them and I recognised the less honourable travellers mentioned here. I have at times been supported by travellers I did not know and other times I have been severely harassed. The bad experiences create more of a lasting negative impression.

@JustmyopinionSublick

2 жыл бұрын

Yes a pack of sausages

@JustmyopinionSublick

Жыл бұрын

No racist is the childish mentality I'm reading from sheep following sheep

@JustmyopinionSublick

Жыл бұрын

We are talking about suicide, not hissy fitting poor me. Sausage.

Worked in an area where travellers chose to live by their rules and abuse the non travellers. Attacked cars and dished out threats on a regular basis. Walking back from a shop around my lunch break where a traveller child spat on me from his bike because I was wearing the council uniform. My father used to go to a barn (within a mile of a camp) to renovate a trolleybus, he had his plates scanned by travellers and his plates were used to ram raid shops. Police knew when they interviewed him because the travellers had done it a million times. I know each case is different but the travellers create their own discrimination by the way their communities have behaved for generations.

@chriswalker8174

2 жыл бұрын

@Angelica Montes what a weird response, are you a traveller?

@popcorn8153

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriswalker8174 i think it's a bot actually, been replying with that virus link to other peoples comments.

@secretamericayoutubechanne2961

2 жыл бұрын

Why didn't you chase after the kid that spat on you? Find out where his tent is and beat the shit out of him? Here in the U.S. if that happens that kid would have a broken leg.

@chriswalker8174

2 жыл бұрын

@@secretamericayoutubechanne2961 it's called being 1 mile from the camp (they were on bikes, me on foot), plus it's a gypsy camp with walls around it. I am not sure what you think about Irish gypsies but there is only one way into the caravan (trailer) park and one way out. Another thing about gypsies they in packs will hunt and kill you if you lay one finger on them. It's a little bit naive of you to be fair, not even police will go onto their sites.

@autocomactivations5170

2 жыл бұрын

@@secretamericayoutubechanne2961 Don't talk shit, you would be in jail or shot over in murica

Problem is that the traveller community makes the problem worse themselves. I have only had negative experiences with them, even then I still whenever I meet one of them, try to be nice

@theirishempire4952

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, the government built them a house that they wanted. They still complained

@KevinXD

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, my 72 year old father was having a nervous breakdown because of them intimidating him into having his roof cleaned.

@joseph8208

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@15yearswasted54

2 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone with a bit of sense. Nothing but brits and yanks here with no clue of what's actually happening

@heartcrafts3426

2 жыл бұрын

@@KevinXD Oh and how many normal Irish people come pestering to have your driveway done or buy this and that?? What a load of crap! the second they came he or you should have called the police if they were such trouble.. Travellers are an easy target for idiots like you, why not target Jews too hey?

IMO the travelling community need to have a look at themselves. They always bang the drum that their way of life isn’t accepted and they’re discriminated against, but at the same time they have no respect at all for the laws and and lifestyles the rest of us adhere to day to day. In my local area, they decided to move into the car park of my local leisure centre, they make a mess, litter all over the football pitches, abuse people. They also tried moving into a local rugby club and were threatening my uncle who’s been the chairman for 20+ years. They had to be removed by police and he’s even had to block entrance to the car park causing a huge inconvenience to the families/ members whom have been going there for years.

@knowledgeofimportantissues2364

2 жыл бұрын

Agree

@jamilsmart1236

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I don’t know your experience so I’m not going to say you’re lying but in your interactions these traveler people are soo awful to other Irish folk there that they are committing suicide. If Irish folks were committing suicide from bad traveler behavior id resonate with your story a bit more.

@jamilsmart1236

2 жыл бұрын

@iron threads3 so these traveler kids showed up and IMMEDIATELY. Started bullying other kids. Usually when you are a new kid to a new system you are quiet and shy. I’m not discrediting your experience but it sounds odd

@jamilsmart1236

2 жыл бұрын

@iron threads3 yeah. Sounds like things won’t change until some smalll brave souls on one side or the other try to change the culture perspective

@klsaunders2656

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamilsmart1236 not them

Well BBC, this piece backfired didn't it. Turns out people's experience vs the perception of posh execs at the BBC is somewhat different.

@LawVRC

2 жыл бұрын

Naaa i think it worked just fine it cause discussion about the topic and show a issue inside an lesser know group. Not everthing has to be part hugh Conspiracy man.

@chaosdweller

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe? .....or it could be the same angry people over and over again? ...idk?

@curiositycloset2359

2 жыл бұрын

@@chaosdweller these people use each other as slaves. Its more likely this woman was using these people as slaves, and they took the only way out. Now she's miffed and is looking for a kick back from the state for her lost income. And I'm not joking.

What about the anti social and bullying crisis caused my travelers a girl in my class in secondary school had to leave because she was bullied so badly by travelers and needed mental health treatment..

This would've been great if the BBC had begun with an explanation of what "Irish Travellers" are. Watching it through, I have some idea, but again, a proper introduction would've been nice for the rest of viewers who are not Irish and want to know.

@littledotti6808

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I'm from New Zealand and didn't even know this even existed. Not with he Irish. We look at Irish as being straight forward, funny, take no BS, with a dreamy accent. Very manly man. This is a first for me. Really shocked.

@CatHannahCat

2 жыл бұрын

True! What's Irish Travelers? Can someone please explain?

@StarrDust0

2 жыл бұрын

agreed...I initially thought it was just about Irish people travelling to other places, rather than being a subculture...till I saw the whole vid and had to figure it out myself.

@jacquelinejohnie2598

2 жыл бұрын

My sentiments too. I have never heard of Irish Travellers before now. Had to google them to get an idea of who they are. Nevertheless, very sad for them to be treated inhumanely. We are all God's children.

@CatHannahCat

2 жыл бұрын

@M E Thanks for the info! 😊

My brother in law was amazed at what he found at the local sports centre in cheddar (somerset) that he managed, he let the Irish travellers use the shower facilities, and when he asked them to pay the very next day he found human waste in each one of the cubicles, yep, the travellers had crapped in the middle of each cubicle. But boo hoo we are racists if we find this behaviour "UTTERLY DISGUSTING ", just wow. True story.

@klsaunders2656

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right.

@oracle8589

2 жыл бұрын

That would be the Smith family I take it😆

@gorefairy1190

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, it's racist to assume all Irish people do that

@arosamia

6 ай бұрын

the same experience when I worked in a hotel... somehow the sh*t the walls in every toilets and vomited all around everything. Everything! And broke mirrors, doors, toilet seats. Just a usual Saturday night.

We have had travellers set up camp near us a few times and some of them cause chaos. Riding motor bikes up and down the streets and making an absolute mess of the land they are staying on. Plus the crime rate seems to increase. This is why they are ostracised. If they rented a piece of land. Didn't cause chaos and left the land in the same condition they found it in we wouldnt/ or I wouldn't have any problem with them. To me they would be just another member of the community. So to me it's up to them to change and then in time I'm sure the community would change their views. I'm very sorry to hear of the high suicide rate and hope a solution can be found.

@coolcat6103

2 жыл бұрын

They’d have to pay taxes like the rest of us then…..

@phoenixzappa7366

2 жыл бұрын

I'm Irish. Travellers have no respect for anyone. They are the rudest, most aggressive people you could ever hope to meet. You have to give respect to get respect.

@malcpaul996

2 жыл бұрын

The answer is to neuter them

@Sulikowsky

2 жыл бұрын

@@coolcat6103 forgive my ignorance but they not paying taxes?

@hippychic8860

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sulikowsky no a lot of them dont declare that they work

The travelling community needs to look at themselves Stop blaming other people. So many have serious addictions running their lives

@outsidersongs2682

2 жыл бұрын

You are denying the massive hate against travellers? It's right here in the comments if you dont believe it! Hate is never ever acceptable.

@rosenberry9150

2 жыл бұрын

It's not addiction, it's tradition

@outsidersongs2682

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosenberry9150 addiction is a response to stress or trauma.

@greyguy.960

2 жыл бұрын

@@outsidersongs2682 Hate? Don't you mean calling out wrongs where wrongs are.

@lordgarion514

2 жыл бұрын

@@outsidersongs2682 No he's not denying it, he's saying it's mostly their fault. They come in, act rude, throw trash everywhere and expect others to clean up behind their trash selves. and just don't give a shit about anything else. Who exactly is supposed to like them, with behavior like that???

It would help If travellers would respect the communities they choose to live in and not steal . I have had many bad encounters with them and had racism from them

@sebastianguerre6868

2 жыл бұрын

Like many people in England I have genetic or racial links to the native people of the British isles. There is a difference between cultural differences and racial differences. It's true that there are families where suicide is common. It should be remembered that usually psychological disorders that lead to suicide are heritable.

@k0b6ix

2 жыл бұрын

@Chelsea Rivers you just proved my Point. Rather than coming in and commenting respectfully you had to swear and be disrespectful. I have many Irish friends and have no problem with anyone but I was just saying that from my experience with travellers is that they treat anybody who isn’t one of them with disrespect and have no intentions of contributing to a community and for the most part they show up cause loads of problems and then ether get kicked out or disappear once they have got what they want

@marcodarko6929

2 жыл бұрын

Travellers I've met have been very good people.

@patientswim6888

2 жыл бұрын

@@sebastianguerre6868 what native people? There are no native people

@sebastianguerre6868

2 жыл бұрын

@@patientswim6888 OK, first nation people then.

No sympathy for them whatsoever. They cause hell where I live. Never had a positive experience in any part of my life with any of them. Either professionally or personally.

@fazertace6837

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Repulsive individuals.

@victoriawindsor8023

2 жыл бұрын

they caused us hell where we used to live. they beat up my friend for no reason. threw stones at our car windows and house windows. they would steal catalytic converters from cars. the problem is travellers!!!!

@UNKNOWN-qg4dy

2 жыл бұрын

Same here

@trumpsdailytruthsmakelibsc6952

2 жыл бұрын

Violent bullies The men, women and children The 90s was a great decade growing up in Britain but the only fly in the ointment was travellers 100% chance intimidating or threatening when they passed you in the street They always had a bowl hair cut that was greasy, red faced , sometimes freckles Even if you crossed the road they'll still be verbally abusing you from the other side. Worst thing about 90s England was them flooding this country

@dbuckley100

2 жыл бұрын

Very true.. been living in a town with a lot of traveller family's my whole life and none of them are good people, the raise their kids to be just like them. The suicide rate has fuck all to do with everybody else and all to do with themselves. This suicide because of "racism" is just them blaming everything on everyone else like always. And there seems to be confusion now between the difference with Racism and not liking scumbags !!

My dad used to have a tanning and hair salon with a pretty good reputation in the area. Gradually, a group of travellers would come in more regularly. They brought their kids, who would run around, with a total disregard of other clients, the store, and the parents did nothing. They were rowdy, shouted a lot, and created a poor atmosphere. Over time, the only customers left were the travellers, and they always promised to pay next visit, or had excuses why they couldn't cover their tab this time around. Eventually my dad had to close the shop due to financial losses. I guess that's the cost of trusting people in good faith to keeping their word.

@jamilsmart1236

2 жыл бұрын

Very well could be true. Set standards for your business. Anyperson who comes into a store must culturally abide by the stores culture

@theeraphatsunthornwit6266

2 жыл бұрын

Is this gypsy or irish 😅

@Nat-wu1rv

2 жыл бұрын

If they don't have the money, you don't sell it to them. It's simple - pay first. By rights, you should be charging EVERYBODY first. Don't say okay okay that's fine and then turn around later and get mad. You charge first. If they don't have the money I'm sorry but I'm not allowed to sell you the stuff- not me it's the boss. What can you do eh ? That's it . To pick at someone's kids is pretty low as well. If you dont want people in there, you say you can only fit so many at a time, something along the lines - be polite. And as for how people raise their kids - there's lots of people in this world who have bad kids. Rich people have some of the most badly behaved kids you will ever meet. Ask any teacher who taught in a private high-school for rich adolescents and you will see. They refuse to listen and refuse to respect the teachers because they feel no need to. Explain that one away though.

@makeracistsafraidagain

2 жыл бұрын

I never generalize people because of the behavior of a few.

@nickthompson1812

2 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly believe it’s how you ran your shop. Extending credit? That’s a quick way to get yourself in a pickle.

I have never met a single respectful or polite “traveller” in my life.

@edwardlawrence9774

Жыл бұрын

How many have you met where did you meet them and why did you carry on meeting them?

@LoudaroundLincoln

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardlawrence9774 I'm from Hull. Every October the fair comes to town and the burglary and muggings go straight up. You can't trust their kind. Their not fit to be around decent hard working white folks.

@arosamia

6 ай бұрын

@@edwardlawrence9774 if you would ask me with the same question I would answer you this: I meet them in the small town we live in when we are going to the "other side of the town" for shopping and they play football across the road and cars have to stop if they don't want to hit those cheeky trav@ll@r boys running across give s sh*t and drivers are afraid to say anything when the ball hits their car while driving. I met them when I worked in a hotel and they left a huge mess, their kids left sticky candies in the carpet of the couch and cleaners had to remove them...try it once! I have met them when they vomited and soiled the toilets, all the walls behind and around the toilet (yes, with soil, sh*t as you like) as they were coming for a wedding or just "a usual gathering" on Saturday night. And they broke the mirror, they damaged and broke the toilet seats, doors and they provoked and physically abused the staff so the staff had to call the Gardai and needed to close the bar early. I was happy when I left this hotel. These guys made huge damage on the streets breaking all of the parking cars as an event of revenge between their families. It was in the TV news at that time. They leave mess, rubbish everywhere they go... I know because I see it with my own eyes and they are not ashamed making mess. Just as the quarter where they live in our town: that's a garbage dump with toys, metal, plastic bottles, broken glasses everywhere. And only tr@vell@rs live there as no one else is that crazy to move there... What else are you curious?

Irish Travellers known for theft, fraud, intimidation, assault etc have been spreading the same nonsense abroad, in countries like Sweden. Where the local population are known to be very welcoming of foreigners, the Irish Travellers take full advantage and commit all manner of crimes, and leave with their stolen goods across the border with little to no consequence. It is therefore very hard to feel any amount of sympathy for a community of people who have such a horrific reputation, and do nothing to alter this perception. Even, or especially abroad.

@martineshamzin7535

2 жыл бұрын

And you think they are unusual in that regard? You can't think of any other groups known for similar things? I can tell you that the UK has much worse groups then Travelers whom they coddle like babies. Such as militant terrorists who are not even born within the bounds of the EU. Their demands are quite reasonable.

@jakej2256

2 жыл бұрын

Have you not read the title of the video, stop with your prejudice Alex, travellers deserve respect.

@sl_721

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakej2256 how about travellers give some respect to everyone else, instead of thieving, assaulting, intimidating and frauding

@JustmyopinionSublick

2 жыл бұрын

Sausage

@MaksFaks-kl1zj

6 ай бұрын

The difference here is that you are socially allowed to shat upon them. You would not dare say the same shit about your fellow Ahmeds.

I am a Chinese but lived in Ireland for over 20 years, i had settled traveller as my neighbours, lots of them are fine, government spent a lot on them, free house, money support, free courses, they are treated properly, some of kids are rude, i usually say hi, but they dont say it back, they call me chink, thats very rude abd racism as well.

@JustmyopinionSublick

Жыл бұрын

Go home to china , china man

To be fair, I came to Ireland to research my Diaspora roots and was repeatedly stopped and even strong armed by Travelers offering cart rides, knockoff goods and other things. My family watched them shoplift from local stores, disrespect law enforcement officers, and the scantily clad young women wouldn’t leave my 18 year old brother alone. He tried to be polite but by the end of our trip when they’d shout come-ons at him he’d holler back something like, “Away with you, ya second hand hoor! And take your mother with you!” Maybe your community needs to do a better job monitoring its own citizens to discourage its members from behaviors that aren’t in the best interests of you or the nonTraveller community. If someone stole, left their garbage in my parks, let their children be loitering and disrespectful to those I value you can bet your boots they’d be unwelcome in my shop, at my house, and in my village!

@JustmyopinionSublick

2 жыл бұрын

What a sausage

@davidyasss3484

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry to hear this, but it seems very extreme, even though I've never had a good experience! Whereabouts in Ireland did you stay??

@brooklynnchick

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidyasss3484 We made a big loop beginning with Dublin City, south and East to Dunlavin. We saw the most young people in Dublin, and that’s where the girls were the worst. Around Kylemoor Abbey we were warned about the cart rides, but we thought it sounded like racism so we didn’t give it credit. When we had explored to our hearts’ content we were walking back through the car park and we had three guys following us, to our passenger van, trying to get one or all of us to take a ride. One fellow had even looped his arm through my sister’s! They couldn’t have known it, but I grew up farming with horse drawn equipment and remember enough that I could see one man’s trap and harness were pretty run down. I dug out a fiver and told him to look us up when his tugs weren’t so shoddy. The knockoff goods were sound equipment being flogged from a van that stopped near the park where we’d eaten our takeaway. That was in Galway. My husband knew the stuff was fake because, as he says, “The writing is all Engr’ish” - that unique combination of structure and word choice that is produced by feeding an Asian or South Asian text through a translator program like google translate.

@nutpeg6915

2 жыл бұрын

@@brooklynnchick ive never met any travellers in dunlavin, did you?

@brooklynnchick

2 жыл бұрын

@@nutpeg6915 You know, it’s been so long that I can’t remember for sure. I know Dublin, Kylemoore Abbey, Inch Beach, and Galway City are the areas I’m sure of.

If this community just learned about accountability and responsibility, it would go a long way. Most of their problems are self inflicted.

@techrambler2746

2 жыл бұрын

What an ignorant and unempathetic answer that is. They're people with problems who deserve to be listened to just as much as you do.

@JustmyopinionSublick

2 жыл бұрын

It's because of narrow mindedness comments like yours you sausage

@user-yp3oj5se1i

2 жыл бұрын

The religions and monarchy families are the number 1 leeches on society. If you were genuine you'd have to admit that.

@JustmyopinionSublick

2 жыл бұрын

Your full of bullshit

@GolfingInParadise783

2 жыл бұрын

99% self inflicted

The only experience I have ever had with Irish travellers is when I was in secondary school there were two traveller kids who used to bring razors to threaten other kids. More recently they broke into the office block I work at and stole a bunch of the desktop PCs. I don't think we're the problem.

@techrambler2746

2 жыл бұрын

What you're describing are the actions of kids growing up knowing they have no chance to succeed in the society that surrounds them. They resort to stealing just like regular people do when they're desperate. They're just human beings who have been failed by the state.

@maple8859

2 жыл бұрын

@@techrambler2746 How do kids know that? At their age? My kids don’t know if the state fails them or not. But they have no choice other then to go to school, and study. If they steal, as kids sometimes do, they are punished at home. Can the travelers parents say the same? If their culture is to not study past 12 years old, and they insist on maintaining that, how can the state intervene? The state is there to help those who want to help themselves. Until a few of generations ago, there was no state to blame. It all came down to family and community values. And it should be the same. The few travelers kids who insist on going to school are shamed in their community. This means they’ll never get a chance to build a car, a smart phone, a bridge, or study marine life, or write a book, or whatever their passions may turn out to be. Because their parents deny them these options. They want to keep their culture? Fine, but don’t bother other groups of the society. Look at the Amish, they don’t go around stealing. They don’t complain of discrimination. They choose to bake bread, I choose to buy their bread. I watch movies, they don’t. Simple!

@c.9900

2 жыл бұрын

@@techrambler2746 "Failed by the state?" You should experience them pitching up their caravans on land near you. I guarantee you will think differently then.

@shaagaknowsyou5295

2 жыл бұрын

@@techrambler2746 Stop making excuses for delinquency.

@techrambler2746

2 жыл бұрын

@@maple8859 If your kids grew up seeing their parents, extended family, and all their friends stuggling and getting no respect from society then they'd pretty reasonably assume that is where they were also going to end up. I assume your kids see their family holding down good jobs and can reasonably assume that is attainable to them. The state has robbed these people of their traditional way of life, turned them into criminals by making all land private, and not providing any real support for them to intergrate into society.

Drugs have ravaged many traveller communities. This should be mentioned as should the terrible case of the two male travellers who dragged a young policeman to his death behind their stolen quadbike. The UK has been the country of choice for travellers from Romania,Hungary, Bulgaria and the Balkans which together with Irish travellers has seen a steep rise in many types of criminality. The 'racism' felt is the general public's dislike and fear of such criminality. It is up to the travellers themselves to find a way of life which is not only healthier for themselves but also benefits the society in which they live.

@MrBASShunt3r

2 жыл бұрын

It all comes down to darwinism. The strong will survive.

@our-days-are-short8254

2 жыл бұрын

@Abraham Donaldson get lost with your spam

@Rafael__

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBASShunt3r darwinism is not about strength but adaptability

@bntour178

2 жыл бұрын

That is so correct..sometimes rascism has its good effects...

@chrisgooner8901

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more!👍🏻well said!

I’m sorry but they bring it upon themselves, recently near my business 2 traveller lads aged 17 and 18 were arrested for possession of a illegal handgun, which discharged through their car roof after they were driving erratically and at high speed through a residential area. There are numerous thefts, break ins and general crime, constantly caused by the travellers in the area.

If travellers are so religious then why don't they remember "thou shall not steal"?

I think there are many different reasons why travellers commit suicide at a higher rate, namely poor education, archaic male stereotypes based on violence/toxic qualities, lack of opportunity and a way of life that is at odds with mainstream cultural norms.

@winterwords8804

2 жыл бұрын

This exactly. I doubt mental health is a topic that most would discuss let alone seek help for. Instead of blaming others, maybe travellers need to look to their own culture.

@ParArdua

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and very high consumption of alcohol, low use of preventive health services, inbreeding within a closed community, interrupted schooling, and high interpersonal violence and incarceration rates. It is certainly not the "colour bar".

@dyawr

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, but why are they separated from the Rroma community? I feel it's just the Irish branch, tbh..

@Meteoraq

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, most of them never get a good education

@THER00BILLZ

2 жыл бұрын

Racism.

It's not racism to hate people who expect to sponge off those who work hard, instead of doing an honest day's work themselves. It's not racism to hate people who bring up maladjusted children because they constantly move them from school to school, or don't even send them to school. The world doesn't owe these people anything, because they only take from it and put nothing back!

@heyyo162

2 жыл бұрын

What kind of empathy disorder does one have to have in order to watch a video like this and then write a text to justify hatred? You don't have to be a damned racist, It is bad enough that you harbor hatred toward people that are of weak, unprivileged position in the society with the worst opportunities for betterment.

@stastu6484

2 жыл бұрын

@@heyyo162 this video is a sob story. If you or your relatives had any "interactions" with real travellers you wouldnt be defending them. All they do is intimidate and fight people, and when they recieve any punishment (which they never do) they scream racism and discrimination.

@DavidGetling

2 жыл бұрын

@@heyyo162 These people have plenty of opportunities for betterment. Think of all the Vietnamese that have come over with just the clothes on their back, and not speaking a word of English. Most of them become valuable members of society, and their kids excel at school. Bleeding heart liberals like you disgust me.

@HolyRickstar

2 жыл бұрын

Does the west do honest works? Last time I checked most your jobs are sitting on your bum clicking conputer buttons producing nothing but somehow your money buys the latest iphone built by a poor east asian mother in a sweatshop to feed your consumerism. Anglo Saxons are so delusional it is painful to watch , you literally produce nothing...the US produces absoluetly nothing but ironically you have a self righteous outlook on life. You people are bat shit crazy.

@happyjonn9242

2 жыл бұрын

@@heyyo162 they bring most of it on themselves. No sympathy from me either. And i doubt you have ever met any of these people, the vast majority of them are degenerates.

An an Irish person, I box with some good travelers here, you get really nice travelers. and others are not. They created a an bad image for themself, stealing things and being cowboys with others.

@Exiyle

2 жыл бұрын

that's what i always say, in from east England and some of the travellers who've been taught to fight since 5 go about throwing their weight around and stealing from gorja, when the real travellers are in their community living their life and suffering the consequences of the few who think its acceptable to play gangster

@caolanmorrow1384

2 жыл бұрын

@@Exiyle 100% lad true

@whywhat9018

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a Traveller and it pisses me off when some Travellers commit crime. It's people like me who suffer because pubs and restaurants won't let me in. I'm sick of it all.

@sjefkerolleman2094

2 жыл бұрын

@@whywhat9018 I'm a dutch traveler We've always had to fight for our existence But what do the farmer know about that They were the first to become a slave to society

I haven’t come across one decent one and my best friend is left with a scar on his face for no reason by one as they are very aggressive people

@autocomactivations5170

2 жыл бұрын

Look in the prisons how many whites, blacks and others fill them? Irish travellers are more irish than the population of all you immigrants

@urfatmompoosaypatrol5698

2 жыл бұрын

I'm an irish traveller and some travellers are very aggressive, you say you don't believe in the bible you could get shouted at for it I've seen how some travellers act I'm so sorry for your freind I hope you see some nice travellers soon x

@Yourballix

2 жыл бұрын

I have met 100s of travellers in my life. Most certainly a high portion of them are trouble there definitely are some decent people amongst them

@urfatmompoosaypatrol5698

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yourballix thank you for acknowledging there's nice travellers out there. Thank you🇮🇪🇬🇧💖

Stop nicking stuff, smashing up pubs and dumping crap everywhere. Seen it first hand.

This is utterly awful. However like others have stated on here. I've only ever tried to treat the travellers I've met with respect and kindness. In response I've been treated horrendously outside of work and also whilst just trying to do my job. They seem to think they deserve everything for free, no rules apply to them and they can treat anyone and do anything how they please. Im sure there must be some good and respectful travellers. I have honestly been yet to meet them. Really sad for the ones who are treated badly because of how other travellers act.

@AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible

2 жыл бұрын

Have you heard about the unruly tourists who came to NZ ?

@donny4855

2 жыл бұрын

Horrendous reply. Can't you just hear this without: actually many of them are bad ffs

@dyawr

2 жыл бұрын

@@AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible I haven't. What did they do?

@Camerooonify

2 жыл бұрын

@@donny4855 well you need to understand what might be driving hatred towards this group if you want to fix the problem.. Sadly you need to deal with some uncomfortable truths about a portion of their society. The ones that act like that, in my mind, are in part responsible for the mental health crisis among travellers who are respectful and kind.

@ClipFaceGun

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I forgot to mention the number 3 People who know nothing about travellers and what they are truly like.

100% of my interactions with them have been negative, I can't say that for any another group on earth.

@wayne107

2 жыл бұрын

@NBA this freak again

@wayne107

2 жыл бұрын

Fuk ukraine bunch of softies your gonna get done long live putin

@JustmyopinionSublick

Жыл бұрын

Muppet

@LOCATIONREDACTED

Жыл бұрын

@@JustmyopinionSublick It's not untrue, so I'm not sure what your point is.

@JustmyopinionSublick

Жыл бұрын

@@LOCATIONREDACTED my point is Muppet, that we are talking about suicide, not hissy fitts or hate towards travellers, but discrimination runs deep, I see all thees comments and hate country people more

There's always someone else to blame for your own bad choices.

@drlegendre

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying what so many of us are feeling.

@zechariah3234

2 жыл бұрын

Try making choices without mommy and daddy's money.

As much as I can sympathise with people struggling with suicidal thoughts, nearly every single traveller except some of the young ones that I’ve come across are the most rude, nasty and vulgar individuals. Now that doesn’t mean we can generalise but just within my experience with travellers. Constantly had them stealing vandalising and swearing at us constantly.

@evilg6499

2 жыл бұрын

Bang on rlly but there’s alot that acc rlly nice to be fair

@pippawheelie4388

2 жыл бұрын

@@evilg6499 you need some more letters champ? Your typing is awful.

@pauobunyon9791

2 жыл бұрын

Connor McGregor ? 😂

@robbiegreen491

2 жыл бұрын

True that. Never met a nice one.

@barryirlandi4217

2 жыл бұрын

I actually lived up the road from that traveller settlement as a ten year old boy.. Cycling by there every day was terrifying.. Always shout at. Often chased.. No fun

Solution part 1: Ensure your children stay in school until at least 16.

@whoseouthere5861

2 жыл бұрын

Not even then is a guarantee.

@niamhcosgrave9545

2 жыл бұрын

Legally in Ireland children have to stay in school until 16 but that wasn't the law when a lot of older people were in school

@acme181169

2 жыл бұрын

@@niamhcosgrave9545 ......and your point being?????

@vlogw.h

2 жыл бұрын

what Irish schools accept Travellers please?

@patrickcasey1150

2 жыл бұрын

​@@vlogw.h All of them.

I work in hospitality and haven't met yet someone from their community who doesn't give you a hard time whenever they show up.

@bimbobaggypants4820

Жыл бұрын

I work in a supermarket and they are horrible people.

My family used to own a restaurant they would always come to our restaurant eat the food and when it came to paying for the food they would make excuses to not pay or get discounts on their bill saying the food was bad. If it was bad why did you eat it? We always had trouble from them when they came to our restaurant was thinking of banning them from coming to our restaurant nothing but trouble they are. Some are good some are not. I heard some of them steal too.

@whyputaname

2 жыл бұрын

Well, there was a way around that. You tell them if they can't pay, well you have some dishes out back in the kitchen that need washing.. Some Restaurants here in the States would do that if a person couldn't pay..

@danpearce3886

2 жыл бұрын

@@whyputaname Yes, you tell that to a traveller family and see what happens to you and your business

@TotallyAgreeYes

2 жыл бұрын

@@whyputaname these people aren't homeless, they're greedy and aggressive. Fighting is in their blood.

@whyputaname

2 жыл бұрын

@@danpearce3886 .. What happens to the business? Ohh, that's right, they stop coming to your Restaurant.. Why would you want them there..

@whyputaname

2 жыл бұрын

@@TotallyAgreeYes .. I still say it to them.. Either that call the police..

Are you sure it is not just because Travellers are separating their children from wider society from day dot then don't know how to psychologically manage it as they get older?

@dibsdib3697

2 жыл бұрын

Being of traveller heritage and living in a house for most of my life. As a kid It's was still hard growing up what with being ostracized at school my fellow student's and some teacher's because of my heritage. So for me your argument fails and fall's flat on it face. It's not our culture that's the problem it's the Prejudice's so called normal society hold's, I'l give an example in my local area we had a couple instent's of fly tipping and garden shed's being broken into and the rumour's that were going round blamed a family of traveller's who had be staying on land that they own for the past month. So some member's of the community called the police and social work's on the family (what hell they must of gone throught). Well needless to say they had done nothing, the fly tipping was caused by and out of town builder who was caught and the shed break in's were by two teenagers trying to get money for drug's. Did anyone change their mind about the traveller's or say sorry no, according one resident who had been saying it was them doing the fly tipping and robbing shed's " their just scum if their not doing it here then you can guarantee they will be doing else were."

@scottmiller8617

2 жыл бұрын

@@dibsdib3697 well, a lot of Irish commenters state that your community is violent, disrespectful of laws, messy and use intimidation tactics. I don't think all of them can be lying racists. I think the problem is more complex than just people being racist for no reason

@dibsdib3697

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottmiller8617 I not saying that both our community's are Sweet and innocent. What i am saying is that there are a lot of people with alot of preconceived ideas. Like what happend to me at school, Even tho I lived in a house and proud of my heritage I still had my life made a living hell, And yes I did get in to fight's alot because no one else was sticking up for me, and I can't remember all the time's we had the police/ social sevrice's around the house even tho had had not stolen a single thing in my life and My family never beat the crap out of me. And when I got so sick and tired of seeing the police and social services I asked them "you know I've done nothing wrong so why you here?" and their respone's was " We have to be seen to be doing something" so they see it part of their job to appease those that make false claim's by making my life hell, what lovely democratic society we live in were everyone is treated equal in the eye of the law.

@maple8859

2 жыл бұрын

@@dibsdib3697 in order to help shift the fears that people have developed after a long time of abuse from travelers who have wronged them, you and others like you will have to work twice as hard. It’s almost like paying for the ancestral sins, even though the latest generation has not done anything wrong. Just be patient, teach your siblings, your friends, your kids to not get in fights because that doesn’t solve anything, look for friendly kids and create your own little safe circle. If you don’t give them any cause, eventually they’ll leave you alone. And remember, kids are mean and they bully other kids regardless of their heritage and for all kind of stupid reasons. Imagine how those kids who can’t even find an excuse must be feeling after being bullied. Just stick to your goals: stay out of trouble completely, even if you think you are right, study, decide what your path will be and study to stay on that path. Fighting and using bad words is for losers who can’t use their intelligence to solve problems. Staying out of trouble is the intelligent choice, it’s showing that you are worth the effort of controlling your impulses, your anger.

@dibsdib3697

2 жыл бұрын

@@maple8859 "you and others like you will have to work twice as hard. It’s almost like paying for the ancestral sins".. Your joking right! I have done nothing wrong yet i'm to be persecuted and live my life and my kid's life in shame? Screw you. If you want to talk we can be adult's and talk, if you want to throw sh1t at me I'll make you eat it. But do not think that me and my kid's are going to pay a so called perceived debt of our forbares to society....Hmm let me think abit Ok we will When every White man/woman prostrates before every black/indian/muslim man and woman for the Crime's to humanity commited by their ancestors. Hows that!

Had one positive interaction with travellers , had 100’s of non positive including trying to run my car off a lane then trying to ram a scaffold pole through the windscreen because I put blocks infront of my own field. A community that insists it wants to be treated differently and in general treats settled folk like scum needs to sort its own problems out first.

Right, I understand that there are good and bad people among all communities in the world. I have met nice people from the traveller community, unfortunately most of my experience has been bad with these people. The main problem I see with the traveller community is that they do not seem to value education enough, which has caused this massive rift between them and the settled community. A huge portion of them are unable to read. Travellers need to stop denying education to their children.

@bogeyonanostrilhair9568

2 жыл бұрын

Suicide rates among men in UK is highest in England/Wales, and if racism has anything to do with it, it's the least reason it's happening.

@a.c4373

2 жыл бұрын

@Мишель Поппинс ☂️ no its not everything he said is true

@kylerittenhouse3161

2 жыл бұрын

How can it be "racism" if they're the same race as the rest of the British isles? Liberalism really is garbage and needs to be wiped out.

@lordgarion514

2 жыл бұрын

@Мишель Поппинс ☂️ Absolutely not. Facts are *NEVER* racist. What you do with those facts *CAN* be racist. But facts can not be racist. And since the poster didn't do anything with those facts. Nothing said was racist.

@dyawr

2 жыл бұрын

@Мишель Поппинс ☂️ Lmao. So, you don't have the gypsy community in your country? 😂🤦‍♀️ Judging by your script, I sincerely doubt that. So stop acting like you don't understand *exactly* where the OP is coming from - or try to connect the dots.

As a gay guy, I was berated by them in school and in the yard of my home. They hung out there unfortunately. We were too afraid to move them as we knew the consequences. Had windows smashed. And they cry discrimination?

@thrivisminsta3735

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry you went through that. I am unfortunately in a similar situation where they live near me. Did you move out as a resort ? They’re making everyone’s life a misery where I’m living

@davidyasss3484

2 жыл бұрын

@@thrivisminsta3735 Thank you. And sorry to hear your situation. This was years ago for me. They eventually moved out after destroying and robbing the house. The landlord had a breakdown. A lovely family live there now ❤️

It would be one thing if the discrimination was unwarranted. I’ve met many nice individuals from the travelling community but about 60-70% of my encounters have been bad. People aren’t going to treat the community with respect until they start acting like upstanding citizens of the community as a whole. With regards to horses, I’ve seen countless times and have dash cam footage of travellers on horse and carriages, running red lights and not obeying the rules of the road. Even once I’ve seen the aftermath of a horse race where the horse was injured and they left it for dead on the side of the road. How do you expect respect when these are the kinds of things people see ?

@QwadLuzr

2 жыл бұрын

We used to have to take their horses water. They'd be tied up in the sun, no one ever attending them, all the grass within their reach eaten. If anyone else acted like this, they'd be jailed.

@MsJp467

2 жыл бұрын

@@QwadLuzr yes but with them it one law for us another for them i seen their animals not nice but they get away with it not us and that right no animal abuse for any one

@QwadLuzr

2 жыл бұрын

@@MsJp467 I rescue Lurchers, guess where they all come from.... Again, anyone else acted like this they'd get jail.

@MsJp467

2 жыл бұрын

@@QwadLuzr good for you and thank you for rescue that so great they dont give a shit about their animals yes they should get jail time too the same as any one who hurts a animal

@MsJp467

2 жыл бұрын

@@QwadLuzr lurchers are beautyfull had one called justice found at side of road mouth kicked in tided up lump on head cuts every where legs tide up with fising gut my god he was a gentle man could not have loved a dog so much he taught he was small would try to get on my lap all the time he gone a few years but i cant for get him so gentle so lovely thank you again for what you do

We're not given nearly enough information to make any judgements in this piece. As much as your heart goes out to anyone who has lost so many family members to suicide, the piece doesn't offer any of the circumstances. We're just told "it was discrimination against Travellers" and expected to believe it. While I'm not going to deny that discrimination exists (it does) to lose 28 family members to suicide in ten years, and multiple siblings from one family, is highly unusual. If I heard of that happening in a family belonging to any community of people, my first thought would be that there may something more going on there. Like a shared childhood trauma, hereditary mental health conditions, or a cultural taboo against seeking help. The piece doesn't tell us if any of these things were a factor. It doesn't tell us how the Traveller community handles mental health crises. Instead all the blame is put on an outside force - anti-Traveller bias in the settled population - and we leave it at that. The piece doesn't even tell us what Traveller people think would help. We're told they have ideas and it's not about money, but we're not told what those ideas are. Why not? If the BBC wanted to help and make their voices heard, why cut that out? We're not given any statistics on the issue of suicide either. We're just shown the story of one woman's family, and while her story is awful, this is still just one person and one family. What is the wider scale of the problem? How has it developed over time? We don't know. We're not told. It's just really shoddy journalism. If this was edited down from a longer story, then they did an absolute hatchet job on it. I don't see how this helps anyone.

@StetoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, this is a barely 4 minute video that is probably meant to provoke emotion and draw in viewers. It frustrates me because there is clearly a problem going on here, but it’s once again being blamed on one single issue (and it barely elaborates on it) which is hardly ever the case. This video will help no one, but rather alienate and/or mislead people.

@steelcommander9918

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a phenomenon called a suicide trap, wherein when one person commits suicide, every one close to them is many times more likely to commit suicide themselves, this creates a ripple effect, and can massively increase suicide statistics in an area, and would think it likely to be even more devastating in communities this close nit. My head master had 3 other kids on his street commit suicide in a year when he was a kid. Usually there is something going in there lives, and then one person commits suicide, which makes everything worse for the others, and so other do it as well. Just image for instance a daughter has mental health issues, and kills herself. Well the dad figures it’s all his fault, and so he kills himself as well, suddenly it’s just the mother and siblings left, and they just lost a large portion of the most important people in there lives. Anouther of the siblings can’t take, he offs himself, and then you’ve just got the mom and kid. The mom just lost two of her kids and she kills herself to. The kid goes into foster care, and has issues for the rest of his life. Hence the suicide trap, don’t do it kids, you’ll hurt others more than you hurt yourself.

@hippychic8860

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@cocolade99marmie

2 жыл бұрын

Its on BBC iplayer ....on the News section

@ciarandevaney385

2 жыл бұрын

​@@StetoGuy poverty, it as simple as that .

I've only heard of (not seen) one positive experience the settled community have had with travellers - that's when they cleaned up after themselves before departing an illegal settlement. Every single experience I've had with the traveller community has been negative. I'm lucky enough to live near a military base so whenever they settle up they're usually only here for a couple weeks (tops). But every single time they show up crime goes up and the amount of trash they leave behind is obscene. In one case they settle up near a recycling centre, but still left heaps of trash around their caravans (they even dammed up a nearby river with trash for whatever reason).

@silverkitty2503

2 жыл бұрын

There were two traveller families who set up camp near where i lived they were quiet and gone after 5 weeks and left no trace they had been there.

As a child I used to camp on a field in front of my house, travellers decided they wanted the field so ran over my tent with me inside 🤬 they stole my moped and anything that wasn't nailed down, the field was a shit tip when they left. Got my moped back after my dad went on the attack with a sledgehammer 😁 was a happy girl again 😂

I've worked in Retail since 96 and every time an Irish traveler came in they weren't alone, tried stealing everything that they could and expected discounts making out we were friends and I gave it to them last time they came here and more than once got abusive because they were caught stealing or couldn't get their way Last year I even had, after he'd watched my mum and brother get home, one knock on my door and after claiming he'd just done some work on my neighbors roof acting horrified telling me how bad my roof was. Only to start swearing and shouting abuse as he walked off when I started asking questions and he realised I knew he was lying

Maybe they shouldn't live up to their own stereotypes quite so much if they don't like the way people view them.I've never met a gypsy who didn't think the way to solve all life's problems is through violence.As other people have stated, they seem to think none of the rules which the rest of us have to abide by apply to them , so its a bit rich to start crying now about how they are treated.If you want respect and fairness how about showing the rest of us the same?

The Irish traveller community should be taking a long hard look at themselves and their own culture and behaviour before they start blaming everyone else for their problems

@trumpsdailytruthsmakelibsc6952

2 жыл бұрын

@Cadence Garcia Shut up you Gypo, no one wants you here anymore

In my many years of experience where ever they are there is trouble and violence…Hate them .

Well, I don't know if they're aware but suicide is the biggest killer among males under the age of fifty anyway. Second thing is people don't like them because of their almost universally bad experiences with them. Therefore it's not prejudice, which is making an unfounded judgement beforehand. It's more a judgement looking back on experience. Finally, I wish people who live alternative lifestyles remembered that their way of life is only made possible by the fact that not everybody else lives like that and they are dependent on those other people. You know the boring people who work hard and make the cars they drive and the caravans they live in and the roads they drive on and produce the electricity they use and run shops and trades they rely on and train to be health workers for when they're sick.

Accurate and warranted discrimination. The vast majority live up to the stereotype and are a real thorn in the side of the UK population. Discrimination that stems from persistent and widespread negative interactions with travellers, is a completely natural reaction by the UK public - and many would argue this is justified.

I’m actually more sympathetic to the community, having gone to secondary school with many travellers. Most people I know are vehemently prejudiced against them but I understand that there are plenty of decent folks in the community. With that being said…. I work in a pub. Every damn week there is a group of travellers who come in and cause absolute mayhem in the place. It’s gets so bad that customers have been glassed, cars broken, staff hurt, furniture stolen etc. etc. it’s always a different group each week as well. I’m sorry but yous don’t help your image whatsoever with the way yous behave. Idc what happens on the halting sites, but if you insist on leaving the site and taking part in society when it suits you, then stop acting like wild dogs. I have 0 patience with yous using “racism” as a shield for blatant anarchy

@Faji9r

2 жыл бұрын

Think of positive things to say about them.

@williewilliams5677

2 жыл бұрын

@@Faji9r some if them are good Christians with good values ,,,

@SilentEire

2 жыл бұрын

@@Faji9r My frinds from school were handy, loyal and just generaly nice. As were their family

There is a simple problem here. Travellers ask for the same treatment as every one else. This is a matter of tax. They do not pay any. And yet their behaviour constantly resulting in tax payers money being used to clear up the mess. As usual, a group of people asking for respect without offering any in return.

Once I had some travellers asking if I had any garden chores that needed doing. I knew they where travellers and thought not to prejudge them and gave them a chance. How bad could it be to let them do some garden work? I clearly agreed what needed to be done and the price. In the end they didn't do even half of what was agreed and tried to extort more money, even getting rude and aggressive. They really are their own worse enemy. The suicides are sad but I think it's a direct result of the behaviour of (some/most of?) their own community. Reading the comments here it almost seems like that bad behaviour and screwing other people over is part of their culture.

Travellers crying about racism is so ironic. It's not an exaggeration to say that I've never met a pleasant traveller. They cause so many problems and are generally bad human beings. You reap the crop you sow.

@nba1942

2 жыл бұрын

😠 Hi Matt N Fuk what you saying it here 😠 kzread.info/dash/bejne/lXedw5qDp6eTobg.html mejores 😠 2 (elecciones ) 9.5/0 3( culturales ) 9.3/10 Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo Sorprendente . .;

In various jobs in a variety of industries, I've co-worked with, and managed, people from this community. Of the 6 I can remember off the top of my head, 5 stole (either products off the shelves, or out of the till). This community needs to sort itself out from within - then let society see them differently.

@tvs9978

2 жыл бұрын

What exactly is an Irish Traveller?

@smartalecc

2 жыл бұрын

@@tvs9978 It's an ethnic community originally from Ireland, who also call themselves 'gypsies'. I'm not sure how they connect to Roma gypsies (who have links to India from centuries ago). Irish Travellers don't look Roma though - they look mostly like anglo caucasian people. Although they do have distinct traditional clothing sometimes (appearance and 'dolling up' is quite important for the women). The main traditions within the male side of the community are working with horses and bareknuckle boxing (a way they traditionally settled disputes).

@jobwesleycoxjr5103

2 жыл бұрын

@@smartalecc How would Irish be Anglo when they're Celtic?

@aleccastro4761

2 жыл бұрын

@@jobwesleycoxjr5103 Yeah - my mistake; I actually forgot about that, thanks for clearing

@williewilliams5677

2 жыл бұрын

@@smartalecc you're wrong ,,,Irish travellers are not gypsies ,,,,

I live in a part of Ireland with quite a lot of travellers. They complained their children where bullied in school so a special school was built just for them however they still refused to send their kids to be educated, so taxis where provided every day to bring them to and from school. Most still refused to send their kids to school. They wonder why their lives are so bad?

@dug8377

2 жыл бұрын

Unreal the amount of money that’s wasted on these people, we should keep them all locked up in the same are away from us

@jamiebutterworth3576

2 жыл бұрын

@@dug8377 what the fuck is wrong with you

@dug8377

Жыл бұрын

@erin ministries I may have gone overboard

This is not racism. They need to find a better word. And as for Travelers.. I've only had bad experiences with them. If they want respect.. they need to start showing respect. Not 100% of them.. but a huge amount of them cause trouble for people all over Ireland. I hope they can change, so they gain respect.

@conwayenda1

2 жыл бұрын

@Cecilia Preston You sound lacking in respect yourself, with language like that. Hardly a good example yourself. I hope you can change too.

It's sad to hear. I think the traveller community needs to change too. They need to adjust to how they can live along side those who are not in their community. People have had enough of anti social behaviour in general from any community. They hate the drug dealers, the puppy farmers, pet theft and anyone who thinks that stealing for a living is justified. This kind of living happens on both sides of the fence but for both sides to find common friendly ground they must work at crushing the stereotypes and this means change. Having the attitude of change the way you treat us so we can do as we please even if it affects your life in a negative way, needs to stop. We all need to change. In general better behaviour breeds nicer people and this is what the traveller community is asking for, nice people. But it needs to work both ways, not just on our side of the fence.

@our-days-are-short8254

2 жыл бұрын

@Chelsea Rivers get lost with your spam

@kaysmith4594

2 жыл бұрын

Well said. It goes both ways. If everywhere they go, the locals complain about the same problems. And therefore don't allow them the same access to things, there must be a reason why. Same with the problems with Muslims in Europe. If you are going to live in someone else's land, then conduct yourself in the same standard of that land. Don't expect the people of said land to accomodate behavior outside whats deemed as reasonable by the ppl who live there. Hostility incites counter hostility. And repeating the same mistakes,but expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity- said someone clever,at some point.

@jaithevegan

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said

@user-yp3oj5se1i

2 жыл бұрын

@@our-days-are-short8254 Travellers are Irish and original inhabitants of both islands. You fakes are far too obvious. the britzi's are far worse than the nazi's were for 6 years during ww2. The german brit monarchy are the worst family in britain. Everybody rightly wants them gone.

I remember my cousin had a pub here in Ireland in County Louth. One day the travelers came in and caused rows with the local drinkers. Good loyal customers. My cousin barred them. They came back that weekend and burned the place down. They were not imprisoned for their actions in fact you would have been jailed at the time for not paying your TV license more quicker than compared to what they did. My cousin tried to set up again and was harassed by them for months so he decided to move out of the area and go start a new life somewhere else. Their community as a whole intimidates people and has no regard for other people's property or well-being. They play the victims. They steal and shoplift the parents are rude when you complain about their children, and the children are rude. They drink heavily because of generational abuse, both sexual and internal drinking abuse. The results are evident they become suicidal for not being reared but being dragged up by their own community. For us outside their community attitudes can only change firstly from changes within their own. They need to learn how to respect us termed as 'Outsiders' yes respect for your fellow man. They need to stop feeling like society owes them something. An honest man's living had to be canceled because of their own inherent generational 'mental problems' that would take another 20 years to sort out if they were willing to try. But they're not willing even to try. And as this video showcases, they play the victims. They are heavily involved in organized crime, and demand protection payments from vulnerable businesses, victimize people and destroy property until they receive money. The list goes on, they are a menace to society and society needs to stop sympathizing with these people until they change for the better. Here's another question often asked, they marry internally, cousins, stepbrothers, and sisters always. Yet has anyone ever seen a traveler with a Down syndrome child? mmm makes you think hey...

@JustmyopinionSublick

Жыл бұрын

Go suck your mother

@JustmyopinionSublick

Жыл бұрын

Your off your trolley

I've had experiences of my uncle who wasnt well at the time being approached by travellers who offered to paint his house for free. The next day they were after moving in ponies and trailers in the front field with no permission saying that my uncle promised them and got aggressive when asked to move. Travellers are human like us I've friends who come from the community but its the way there being reared it just has to change. The boys are grown up to fight and suck it up keeping all the shit on their conscience, resulting in antisocial behaviour which when confronted, say by a school, the only thing that happens is the children get bate by the parents. It's not a good way to raise your children and its just not a healthy way to live. I personally know five lads who were from the community who have sadly committed suicide. When you mix constant abuse, refusal of emotions, drugs and alcohol all you get is tragedy. There needs to be reform definitely and I feel the government should try and step in in more ways to help the communities but at the same time, a vast majority simply refuse reforms. Bit off topic but another personal story at the start of lockdown I noticed that someone put zipties on my gate and a couple of my neighbours ones. A day later 6 dogs went missing luckily I had mine in the house. There are a lot of stories like that but I do not have hatred towards them because I understand the reality and the frankly dirty situation they are stuck in. In sadly a good number of cases travellers lives turn out to be just one extended suicide note. I hope change will come and I hope we can all live in peace, love and prosperity .

@jamiefoggitt

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree

@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588

2 жыл бұрын

Gypsies in general, not just Irish travellers, suffer from this exact problem. Irish travellers, though, have the advantage of at least being white.

@walterthecat2145

2 жыл бұрын

@@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 I assure you no one likes Irish travellers

@sandyb6668

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on, the kids are dragged up that’s the problem, not the settled community that are destroying the kids, but their own families.

@autocomactivations5170

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandyb6668 Look at the "settled" community. How many of them are scumbags? A lot more than all the travellers in Ireland. Muppet.

There's no racism with travellers. What there is are consequences for anti social behaviour. Prejudice against travellers, isn't really prejudice. It's cause and effect. Ask anyone who's interacted with travellers. That is, someone who doesn't share the same criminal mentality. They are horrible. 'Institutionally' so (sic.). Everyone who's interacted with travellers has a true tale to tell. I even know Irish people that denounce them. If they want to 'fix' the issues, mentalities and behaviour need to change. But with uneducated people, who laud violent ignorance and ridicule and are contemptuous of education and intelligence. Their fate is in their hands. You make your bed. You lie in it. And 'racism' against travellers, is not racism. It's down to behaviour, not race. Don't believe the lie.

These people destroy everything they touch

In 2008 an EU-MIDIS study of the 27 EU States found that IRELAND had the most RACIST attitudes toward Afro-Europeans in the en tire EU! The United Kingdom was the LEAST racist .

I absolutely don't like prejudicing people. And I work hard to challenge prejudice I witness and that creeps up in my thoughts. But this is a hard one for me because I have personally never had a positive experience with people from Irish traveling community. The places I have worked I have been the target of such disrespect and verbal abuse for doing a job I'm excellent at. In my personal life the only puppy adverts that turned out to be puppy farmed was from an Irish traveling community. Maybe I have the worst luck. I have struggled with suicide and I don't wish it on anyone. Maybe look inside the culture and community to fix something not everyone outside. Promote the "dignity" you have to others that just don't seem to.

@amymcphee4668

2 жыл бұрын

Self praise is no praise at all.

Anyone discriminating against these poor people should be absolutely ashamed of themselves, they get loads of nonsensical abuse for no reason, and you know what, I've never been bullied, picked on, rejected or hurt by any traveller, every traveller I've talked to online has treated me with respect, so mainlanders should be treating them with respect as well.

Travellers take no responsibility for anything

They are discriminated because they are awful people. I've never met a traveller who is honest and polite.

Prejudice is not racism. Travellers are not a different race.

That's a wild wild assumption there. You can't just attribute racism as the reason without any proper evidence. I guarantee you there is more to it than that.

In my experience, the traveller community can be a tad problematic. I once worked in at a 4 star hotel. And, in the 8 years I worked there, we had a number of traveller functions (weddings, etc.). The travellers were rowdy. They harassed staff, and practically had us at our wits end. There are those travellers, of course, who are alright. But, however, people generally keep a tab on travellers because they can really (and so often do) disturb the peace.

28 family members to suicide is terrible. I thought being black was bad. But no one tells me racial things directly to me. They make sly comments but they know that an a* whooping isn't worth it. And I won't do jail time because I'm little and cute lmao.

They're the same race. They are suffering ethnic discrimination, not racism.

I saw this on the breakfast show and I can honestly say that I didn't really care. Travellers are their own worst enemy! If you didn't trash an area, go round practically begging, harassing locals and ripping off local stores then people wouldn't have a bad opinion about your community. I've seen them get hundreds of pounds worth of work done in beauty salons, to then go out for a smoke and not return. People trusting them to do work on their property and either doing a shoddy job or running off with the cash. Trashing areas that were nice green fields with rubbish and human waste and huge clean up bills for councils. People fearing to walk their dogs alone because they were approached by travellers asking what type of dog it is and how much it cost. They aren't all bad, but the ones that are ruin it for the rest. In areas I've lived in there are huge groups of travelling community's that do get on well with the rest. Don't give it hard done by, saying you can't just go to the shop. Just walk in a shop and pay for the items you want... Don't start giving it all mouth and stealing stuff. Then you won't have an issue as shopkeepers want valued customers

I’ve had nothing but negative interactions with this ‘community’. Unfortunately in my profession I don’t have a choice to send a job back or cancel it if it’s on a travellers site. My manager or company would call it racist themselves instead of me taking my own welfare into consideration. They want everything for nothing and will threaten to block you in on their site until they get what they want. I find it very difficult to even class them as humans.

These ‘travellers’ have caused nothing but havoc and they are shocked when people don’t like them

Issue is many travellers aren't that nice anyway and so if people meet other travellers after that of course they'll have a prejudice against them, the council had to lock up a place near my house because people kept setting up there and leaving all of their rubbish when they left

My heart does go out to them but we've had brick sheds broken into by travellers and expensive stuff stolen so it is hard to sympathise .

Every situation that I’ve experienced with travellers has been a nightmare. I remember one kid trying to steal from Tescos got caught. He came back to the entrance, squatted and took a dump right there and then. They don’t give a 2 hoots, they’ve all been brought up not to give a care in the world. I normally go by the saying “treat others, how you want to be treated”. With these people I simply can’t. Seeing all these comments on this video it clearly shows peoples anger more than sympathy.

Don't surrender your country, Ireland! You have a right to have a country, keep your culture and defend your borders!

Get your crime rate down, that will boost your reputation with the local populace. If you're always stealing, don't expect them to welcome you with open arms.

This is not "racism". It might be discrimination against people who select to live as nomads or now non-traveling sedentary people, but this isn't racism. If it is called that the term has no meaning, which it might be even best to adopt since we all belong to one "race", the human race.

@teovu5557

2 жыл бұрын

Irish travelers are genetically the same to other Irish. So yes, saying It s Racism is kind of an oxymoron as you say since they are of the same race.

@niamhcosgrave9545

2 жыл бұрын

@@teovu5557 actually Irish travellers have been genetically distinct from the settled Irish population since approx the 1600s

@sebastianguerre6868

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spearca All dogs alive are one species canis lupus. They all share 99.9 percent of the DNA. That goes for Chihuahuas, Pugs, Great Danes and American Pitbull Terriers. We inherited the word race from the Normans. The word 'race' comes from the French word 'race' (pronounced rass) meaning biological difference within a species.

@niamhcosgrave9545

2 жыл бұрын

It is actually racism because Irish travellers are a recognised ethnicity, they are culturally and genetically distinct from the settled Irish population

@scenenuf

2 жыл бұрын

​@@teovu5557 "wiki" source so not sure how valid.. but "What race are Irish Travellers? Population genetics The study provided evidence that Irish Travellers are a genetically distinct Irish ethnic minority, which has been distinct from the settled Irish community for at least 1,000 years: The report claimed that Travellers are as distinct from the settled community as Icelanders are to Norwegians. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

You lot need to cheer up, life's to short. Try paying rent, Council tax and water rates like the rest of us, that's what a struggle really is

@ironyelegy

2 жыл бұрын

said every white man as he proceeds with the mass murder and incarceration of black and brown people around the world lol

@ironyelegy

2 жыл бұрын

"uhh racism isn't real just work hard duh! what do you mean that's what we said last time? i have no idea what you mean!"

How in the hell does this have anything to do with racism. We need to stop using that word because it gets thrown around way too much.

I’m sorry but as a Romani person I had to share my opinion on the “racism “ part. You cannot be racist against white folks. Travellers are white, end of discussion. You can be discriminatory against them but racist you cannot!

Wouldn't it be labelled discrimination, prejudice or inequality? Racism would imply that travellers weren't Irish...🤔

It’s crazy how travellers make out people are just randomly horrible to them, travellers are always the ‘victims’ yet cause trouble everywhere they go, I’m not saying they deserve it but I mean it’s not racism when the majority of the people in these culture aren’t law abiding nice people.

@rcC-vj8jj

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t act like you’ve gone through what black peoples have or other people with different skin colours because that’s a whole race not a culture of people, a whole race cannot be the same but people stuck in certain cultures will pretty much all be the same, that’s the difference.

28 family members through suicide... after the 10th I'd be thinking someone in the family is a murderer

@skipmole612

2 жыл бұрын

Probably fair to say that one in ten pikeys IS a murderer

Not paying any tax and behaving like lunatics is why you are hated tbh.

I'm not trying to be facetious, but maybe calling yourself a traveller and never actually going anywhere might be part of the problem. Live in a caravan, argue with local authority about your right to be on the land for a few months/years then eventually leave and drive half a mile down the road. Then you get the other type of "traveller" who actually lives in a regular house, is anyone starting to see my point or am I simply being obtuse in regard to the "traveling" community.

@vlogw.h

2 жыл бұрын

obtuse and facetious as intended

@dyawr

2 жыл бұрын

They're called travellers bc they're actually a branch of the Rroma/Gypsy community. Which are a semi-nomadic people that traditionally move from place to place, doing odd jobs & seasonal work, but never settling down. Now this lifestyle has become obsolete and they prob don't like to take that identity-name, bc of the stigma around it. But the cultural connection is clear.

@kills26

2 жыл бұрын

@@dyawr Irish travellers would disagree with you. Their roots are Irish and not as interesting as the Roma gypsies who did in actual fact travel a lot and far. I agree with everything else you said after the first sentence. PS I used to think they were related too.

I dont discriminate at all. I have an intolerance for rude, bullying, violent people. Who are lawless. I am not saying all travellers are like this, but stereotypes have a basis in a core behaviour that people repeatedly experience. I myself have experienced it first hand. There are always the bad element in any society. We need to find a way to bridge the divide and there needs to be a conscious effort to weed out prejudice and lawlessness on both sides

@UNKNOWN-qg4dy

2 жыл бұрын

Not all gypsies are like that only %99 of them

Its not racism for goodness sake. It is people noticing cultural traits in certain groups. Traits that are reliably predictive. Travellers have some very common and very unpleasant and illegal sides to their culture. People avoliding them is not "racism", its common sense.

I'm sorry, but 28 members of a single family killing themselves is not due to racism - that's mass hysteria. Also, if Irish people are so oppressed, why are suicide rates this high across Ireland? This is not a consequence of travelers' lives - it's a consequence of their moral values. If crime rates didn't leap through the roof when travellers come to town, and the cost of clean up after they leave wasn't in the thousands, perhaps they've be better received. There's never been a more accepting time for people who live by their own rules, but when their rules include robbing and scamming everyone within range, and meeting opposition with extreme violence, you can hardly blame people for not viewing them fondly. I LOVE the idea of the Romany lifestyle, but travellers are not Romanys.

UNFORTUNATELY a few bad apples in the apple cart means the whole cart is considered bad. I know that’s not correct, but that is what happens.

@vlogw.h

2 жыл бұрын

I've met a bunch of shitty Irish people while living in Dublin for 5 years. So goes that paint all of Ireland?

@Alex_Barnes

2 жыл бұрын

A few bad apples? Ive never met nice travellers and found they've always been a problem

Saying you don't want to waste taxpayers money however you never pay for NHS treatments. As a taxpayer I don't believe you are entitled to receive treatments before we the taxpayers. Maybe 1 day a traveller could become a free doctor for your community lol

Racism from who? Blacks? Or other white Irish? This sounds more like a hereditary issue when it comes to this lady.

Why is it called racism? They belong to the same wide European race as all other Irish people.