iRacing in the Rain - Does it kill your VR FPS - When using the Quest 3 and the 4070Super at 90Hz

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In this video, I race in the rain, in iRacing, in VR using the Quest 3 and the 4070Super, and ask that feared question, does it tank my FPS, and all from an older gamers perspective.
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00:00 Pre-Intro
00:24 A thank you at 1,000 subscribers
01:25 Introduction
02:50 Performance headroom in the rain
05:58 Combining SSR with Rain
07:35 Using OpenXR with rain
09:30 Conclusions
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AMS2 Steam Link - store.steampowered.com/app/1066890/Automobilista_2/
Garage 61 - garage61.net
iRacing - www.iracing.com/
GT Omega Euro Site - gtomega.eu/
Moza Racing - mozaracing.com/wheel-base-r9
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  • @FruitLoop2020
    @FruitLoop20202 ай бұрын

    Just asked this question in your other post lol. Just earned yourself a new subscriber. Great videos.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the support :)

  • @jonproctor3739
    @jonproctor37392 ай бұрын

    Congrats on your channel hitting 1000 Subs!

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much. It was a long hill to climb, but totally worth it :) Look out for my livestream in a few weeks time, where I will show some of the analytics of this channel.

  • @Skafiskafnjak51
    @Skafiskafnjak512 ай бұрын

    I am getting mine Quest 3 tomorrow and cant wait to try all your settings ! Thank you so much :)

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Cool. Have fun and let me know how you get on. Remember; 72Hz is a good fallback if your performance is struggling.

  • @Skafiskafnjak51

    @Skafiskafnjak51

    2 ай бұрын

    Have 4080 so it will be not any problems. Now I only wait for new headstrap, default one hurts my head 😅@@OlderGamersPerspective

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah that is an issue. Default one is horrible, so I changed to a cheapo Elite style, which was okay, but no battery. I've now changed to one with a battery, but I am not getting on with it as well as the one without... The search continues.....

  • @DanSimracer66
    @DanSimracer662 ай бұрын

    Wow. Another older gamer here! 😉. Excellent video. I got an i7 9700/RTX3060Ti 32Gb RAM. Quest 3 (with water in the USB C port, as Meta report every time I use the headset). Now I’m using my Q2. My fps are 89 most of the time. It drops in the finish straight and in the parade lap. Rain it’s a fantastic add on for iRacing. I’m happy. Loved your channel. Liked and subscribed!

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi, thank you for the support, much appreciated. I think the water in port thing is due to charging with the cable attached to the PC? I don't do that, but I have heard of plenty of people that it effects. If you can run your Q3 without having to charge it while it's connected to the PC, this may solve your issue. The warm up lap does tend to be an FPS killer. Could be that you need to turn down spectators? Set it to low if you haven't already.

  • @paolunna
    @paolunna2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video!!

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    No problem, glad you found it helpful.

  • @nytehaze7606
    @nytehaze76062 ай бұрын

    Congratz on 1,000 subs, I love the quality of these videos, I can tell you put a lot of effort into them! If you don't mind me asking, how in the hell do you get your screen recordings of VR to look so damn smooth! I am running on a 4070TI so I know I can get mine to look like that as well! Are you using Oculus Mirror and then using OBS to capture the mirror?

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi, thank you for the congrats, to be honest, it's still sinking in. When I started last year, I had no idea that I would get this far, or how much fun I would have doing so. I think the first video I did took about 3 months to finish, the next one a month, and so on, gradually getting quicker. For the screen recordings, it depends which ones you are talking about. Some of them are indeed OBS, with me using the replay feature in iRacing to display the image on the monitor and I capture it there. For the recordings you see that show the Performance headroom tool (the ugly thing in the middle of the screen with the wiggly line), I use the record function inside the headset. Basically, once I am set up and ready to race, I do a double tap on my headset, to exit the PCVR space (temporarily) and this takes me back to the Quest area, where I can see a splash screen telling me the Oculus Link is active. On this splash screen, at the bottom, are some icons, and one (second one in maybe?) will start the headset in video record mode. I don't check the option to record the mic, as this puts the audio out of sync, but the game audio will still be captured. Just not my mutterings, which is probably for the best. The headset is set to record in widescreen, with motion compensation set to minimal, the frame rate and data rate at the highest settings. When I have finished recording, I use the USB Detected option in the notifications of the quest headset to get my PC to recognise the Quest 3 as a USB device that can transfer files. I then transfer the video to my PC. From there, I use Premiere Pro to edit the video (mostly chopping top and tail), and then render that to a new file on my PC. The split screen videos are all created in Premiere Pro, but the final timeline is completes using Camtasia. I hope this helps.

  • @aperturescience2
    @aperturescience22 ай бұрын

    new subscriber here. Very professional presentation. Thinking about jumping into iracing but still on the fence

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback. I can understand why you are hesitant, it is an on going investment, and also, if you start to do well, you will need to start buying tracks, all of which goes away if you don't keep paying your subscription. The way I look at it is; I have played loads of online games where I needed to pay a subscription to play, and if I stopped paying, then I couldn't access the content or the game. But, as with most online games, if I decided to come back, then the content, and my characters (cars and tracks in iRacing's case) were still waiting for me. So, the subscription side of it doesn't matter to me. What I am really after is the ability to race, anytime I like, and find a decent number of players on the tracks where I want to race, using the car I want to race with. And for the most part, iRacing delivers. I have found that the further up you go, in licence class, the less populated the races become, but I have only reached C class, so I don't know what it's like at the top. Racing the rookies can be an exercise in frustration, but as you get better, you will start to move up the Splits and face better, cleaner racers. But it takes time and effort to get there. I would say, if you do go for it, get one of the special offer memberships and go for something like 6 months or a year (you save a lot like that), and then dip in and out, don't race if it's getting on your nerves, and don't race on tracks where you are not able to get the best from the car, as this also leads to frustration, and don't expect to do very well, very soon. If you have the gear, the wheel and the pedals, and maybe a rig, then iRacing is probably one of the better sim racing experiences out there for online races. I'll stop now, because I am starting to sound like an advert... Talk to me again when I have been wiped out on T1 in a rookie race :)

  • @Daggerow_Varkain
    @Daggerow_Varkain2 ай бұрын

    Good Guide, good Work. thank you 👍

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you, I am glad you found the video helpful :)

  • @paulashwin247
    @paulashwin2472 ай бұрын

    Watched so many of your vids and only just noticed I hadn't subbed - rectified now, and thanks for the info in your sim videos.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi, thank you for watching my videos and also for subscribing. Much appreciated. What are you most interested in?

  • @shockinho
    @shockinhoАй бұрын

    Amazing video. Im in the process of planning my next desktop for VR and was trying to discover the best option within my budget. I was afraid anything less than the 4070ti super would not be able to deal with the Meta Quest 3 at good resolution and you just proved that is not the case. In using an i5! Thank you for this very important and useful info! Earned a sub!

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    Ай бұрын

    I am so glad you found this video helpful. Don't forget that VR is a sum of all it's parts, so connection to the PC via a cable is probably best, and for that you will need a decent port on your mainboard, preferably USB C. But yes, the i5 will do the job and the 4070Super continues to amaze me with it's performance potential .

  • @shockinho

    @shockinho

    Ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective Yeah im currently using a cable over regular 3.0 USB connector. Probably gonna migrate to the USB-C one on the new motherboard. I found your video very, very helpful. I would sub twice if I could. And like it 10 times. There are good videos about CPU benchmarking on vr out there, but almost every video uses 4080 - 4090 GPUs. This is not viable for me in the country I currently live in, the prices really skyrocket due to taxes. Just know the impact of your content: due to your considerations I've just changed my plans. I'll get a DDR-5 compatible mobo, and I'll be going with the i5 13600 which is pretty affordable here comparing to other options. Now im not afraid of settling for the 4070 super. This gives me room to upgrade down the road, and thanks to your work I know I won't be bottlenecked right at the start. Keep up the great content!

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    Ай бұрын

    @@shockinho That all sounds like an excellent plan, and thank you for the feedback, please be aware, this really does help me when considering what videos to make. And yes, the amount of youtube videos which feature 4090's is a massive frustration to me, it's like, if I could afford that, my problems would probably ALL be solved, but the 4070Super was really at the edge of my budget, and only really possibly because I could make some of the money back selling the 3070. DDR5 ram was on my wish list, but when I built this system, all the way back in 2023 (lol), it was just to rare and cost too much, plus the mainboards that could handle DDR5 were too much, but thankfully that has all changed now, so you should have a really rocking system. I have to say, since upgrading to 4070Super, on my i5 13600, iRacing has looked like a new game, and some of the track details I now see, on tracks I have used for years, suddenly stand out to me so much, I often feel like I am sightseeing rather than racing. Good luck with the new build and let me know how it goes. I will be starting a Discord server soon, just for people who watch this channel, so communication will then be a little easier.

  • @shockinho

    @shockinho

    Ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective Nice!! I'll make sure to join the discord! Keep up the great work!

  • @paulus1412
    @paulus141224 күн бұрын

    First of all, awesome VR videos/content 👍 SSR is pretty heavy in iracing. Even with a 7800x3d & 4090 its hard and i dont have it turned on (running on 90hz).

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    23 күн бұрын

    Hi, thank you for the feedback. Yes, SSR is demanding, I hope one day to build a system that can cope with any sim at any conditions, but I feel their development rate is head of possible future PC performance. Oh well, at least we are not flight siming, that's even worse.

  • @paulus1412

    @paulus1412

    23 күн бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective Flying in MSFS2020 does work pretty good with the quest 3. It looks good and its nice and relaxing :)

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    22 күн бұрын

    @@paulus1412 I should then perhaps give it another go. What are your settings?

  • @paulus1412

    @paulus1412

    22 күн бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective I am using the settings Steve (vr flight sim guy) is using in: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYqX1tV-pJDdg5c.html He is showing settings for different GPU's

  • @tonyf9076
    @tonyf90762 ай бұрын

    Nice, subbed 👍

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your support. It is much appreciated.

  • @arr1009
    @arr10092 ай бұрын

    Thanks for make and share it. Looks like in VR the spray block less the vision compared to usual monitors, I believe in AMS2 something similar happens, could be?

  • @lakaiskates8064

    @lakaiskates8064

    2 ай бұрын

    Might just be the slower cars or maybe even something to do with his settings but for me, the spray from the GT3's is blinding in VR

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    As mentioned here, it could just be slower cars. I was using an Ai race and I did find they were overly cautious. I am keen to try it out on a real race, and then I can see for sure what it will be like. I can tell you, that on some of the faster straights, in some of the heavier rain, it was blinding.

  • @davidvenroy310
    @davidvenroy3102 ай бұрын

    Great summary. In addition, I’ve found its track specific. Example I can run full SSR in rain at Fuji or Brands and it runs perfectly. Same settings for Sebring and it’s a drop of 20%. So there’s that factor. I test this with GT3’s and 20 cars, running Pimax Crystal at native resolution 90hz. SSR is beautiful, but for me it depends on track.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback, yes, I can believe that. I have often seen that some tracks are much better optimised than others, and some of the newer ones are a nightmare to optimise in VR. Did I get an email from you today about Crystal settings? I haven't had chance to respond, but I will do soon.

  • @GnarAspira
    @GnarAspira2 ай бұрын

    i don’t have a 4070 super, but a rx6600, i don’t have a quest 3 but a lenovo explorer, but i love to watch your videos!!!!

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Hey, that's cool. I am glad you find something entertaining in my videos. I am hoping to do more race videos in the future, and more live streams as well.

  • @atlantic_love

    @atlantic_love

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective I think he was looking for your opinion on his hardware.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    tricky! I don't have his setup and no experience in either of these pieces of hardware.

  • @mclane78
    @mclane782 ай бұрын

    Great video! I'm using a rtx4080, but only combined with a 11600k. My vr hmd is a quest2. I think tomorrow I test the rain in vr. Could be interesting how much my potato CPU influence the fps in comparison to your system. Thanks for your great video!

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    That is going to be interesting. Is rain CPU or GPU bound, or a bit of both. Potentially, with your setup, you could be able to tell me. Looking forward to seeing your results.

  • @mclane78

    @mclane78

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective try it as soon as possible.

  • @mclane78

    @mclane78

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective 1st short test done. tested 2 scenarios of your video. 1st dry race against 11 ais at oulton Park. Headroom was up to 40% / 2nd I tested same in heavy wet. Headroom up to 30%. SSR off. I would say the gpu is more important as the cpu, but a better cpu would push my fps higher, too. Your settings are pretty cool! Like the clarity. And of course, the quest2 has lower resolution as your quest3. Hard to compare.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes the Quest 3 has a big jump in clarity and that does make comparison difficult, but yes, most of the heavy lifting does appear to be done by the GPU.

  • @GB-zh3vz
    @GB-zh3vz2 ай бұрын

    Awesome stuff. I have a very similar set up using the 4070ti. Appreciate all the work, thanks for sharing with the community. Btw, set on high, using 32”hdr triples cripples the FPS. Sticking to off even on triples to keep things around 100fps. All the extra eye candy is nice but it’s going to hurt our wallets.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback, and the information. Do you see any difference with SSR on, either low or high? I was hard pressed to see a massive difference. Maybe it's clearer on triples than in VR?

  • @Simlife101

    @Simlife101

    2 ай бұрын

    @GB-zh3vz strange on my 4080 super and 13700k I get over 140fps on triple 1440p 170hz and get locked 90fps in quest 3 both using SSR high rain

  • @Simlife101

    @Simlife101

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@OlderGamersPerspectiveyes without it on high with triples you can't make out where a lot of the puddles are

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    I will have to check this out. Thank you for the tip.

  • @FruitLoop2020
    @FruitLoop20202 ай бұрын

    Since the update, apparently hdr is needed to be on, in order to see the rain lights better? As I can barely see them in vr

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    I have not heard about this as I've been racing in places where it was either not raining or just had a track that was wet (which was slippery enough!). But I will look into it.

  • @m1northreat
    @m1northreat2 ай бұрын

    in my experience, ive had no fps drop with the rain. if anything ive had better frames since the update. i did seem to struggle at race starts with lmp2 and LMDH cars all packed together previoiusly, but everything has been fine and dandy since the update.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Excellent. I am glad to hear it. I've been having some interface issues since the update, with the UI not being clickable for some reason, but a reboot of the UI seems to clear it, but eventually it comes back again. Teething problems I guess.

  • @Alexjelinek-lp7wr
    @Alexjelinek-lp7wr7 күн бұрын

    I wanted to ask if the Quest pro is worth it forSim racing ?

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    7 күн бұрын

    That's a tricky one for me to answer as I have never used one. But if you pop over to the discord channel that supports this youtube channel - discord.gg/tDv9akQe you can ask the group and maybe someone there has some experience of this headset that you can use to influence your decision.

  • @MRD0889
    @MRD08892 ай бұрын

    I haven't run my sytem in VR with the new rain yet. I have yo see when i have that time to figure out what settings i need to mess with in Vr

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Start low and build up. Like I say in the video, go back to 72Hz if you are having issues, as this helps out a lot.

  • @MrRamoSzz
    @MrRamoSzz2 ай бұрын

    AMD FSR helps a lot I use Reverb G2, almost at full resolution on my 3080Ti, but I still disabled SSR as it still drops me to 72-80 FPS and in Reverb it is quite noticeable :(

  • @Kultivater

    @Kultivater

    2 ай бұрын

    Same, except I have an ASRock Radeon RX 6900XT Phantom Gaming OC. In rain I can run the G2 at around 100% resolution (50% = 100% in SteamVR, obviously) using a hefty FSR cut(I think I have vrperfkit set to like 1700 something) and get mostly 90s, sometimes high 70s and mid 80s, FPS by myself on track, which is manageable. It'd be like 50s and 60s with 20 cars around me, I'm guessing.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    I did try adding FSR in the iRacing settings, but I found the performance dropped off, and the display became less sharp, so I turned it off again.

  • @Jabbawock1972
    @Jabbawock19722 ай бұрын

    What about cropping the vertical FoV? i drive mostly cars with roof and have the tangent multiplier on 0.4 because why should i waste CPU and GPU power on rendering the car roof and the driver legs and feets. its more like wearing a helmet. only time i watch the roof or legs is before the start. And it saves massive Power. Power that you can use with SSR (7800X3D. RTX4070 here)

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep, I mention that in the Conclusion, that you can get more performance either using the FOV tangent multiplier in ODT or the Foveated rendering option in OpenXR toolkit. For me personally, I get on better with the OpenXR toolkit option, as the FOV setting can cause some me some VR sickness when the black bar intersects about the image. But this is a personal thing, and I know lots of people love the helmet look that you recommend. It sounds like a cool option, it just doesn't work for me. With the OpenXR toolkit, setting the Foveated rendering as I showed in the video, I can get SSR to play nicely with my system, but the performance headroom still isn't great, and I am not sure what it will look like on a crowded grid. I am guessing, not pretty.

  • @Jabbawock1972

    @Jabbawock1972

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective Yesterday i tried fovated rendering and it distracts me too much...i like the clear vision of my Q3 in my peripherial view and then its full of ugly pixel. so i stay with the cropped view. but thx for your settings

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes. I know what you mean, I prefer the clean image, without either Foveated or FOV Tangent, this is more a last ditch effort in case I ever need it to improve performance on a less than optimised track, with a large number of cars on the grid. Like I said in the video, both of these methods are acquired tastes.

  • @88Renix
    @88Renix2 ай бұрын

    Hi, i have a Ryzen 5 5600x Rtx2070 32gbRam Would you recommend the quest 3 for my system? Im currently using a oculus rift. Ty

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    There are a lot of factors in play here, including how you would connect to your PC, Link cable (in which case the cable and the USB port are important), or airlink or Virtual Desktop (in which case the speed of your router is important). In the benchmarks tests that I have seen online, your CPU is about 27% slower than mine, and your graphics card is about 50% slower than mine. So I can't say for sure, but it does look as though you would have a bit of a struggle to get the Quest 3 to run with most sim software, at fairly decent settings. I hope this helps.

  • @88Renix

    @88Renix

    2 ай бұрын

    Ok thank you for your answer. Of course i would go with the link cable for the best Performance.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Good choice. Best of luck and I hope it works out okay. Drop me an email if you get into difficulties.

  • @88Renix

    @88Renix

    2 ай бұрын

    Ty, appreciate that!

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    no worries

  • @MrEDET
    @MrEDET2 ай бұрын

    I also get a stable 90fps (G2, 2080S) except at Sebring, where it drops to around 80fps at the start. Haven't tested all tracks yet, but out of the 20 or so I now tested that was the only one with some fps drops in heavy rain. But it's interesting, some other youtubers like Dan Suzuka and Random callsign have a severe fps drop on their systems. Dan even benchmarked on 3 different pc's. And this is what I read in the comments on Reddit too - some have almost no performance loss, others (often with higher end cpu/gpu's) see a 40/50% decrease. Superweird.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    I will have to check out the channels. Weird that they are having issues on multiple computers and you and I are doing just fine.

  • @julienguyot6400
    @julienguyot64002 ай бұрын

    Hello. Since update i can not join multiplier session in VR. The loading screen blocks at 5%. I only can join test drive. Do you know what happens ?

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    When you say you can only join test drive, do you mean the test session when the servers are down or the Test Lap? Also, can you start an Ai session and race that? I have seen that the new Ai has some problems. Sometimes it becomes unclickable, and I have to shut it down and start it again to get into the menu system. I also had to uninstall mine and reinstall it as the update kept failing. let me know the answer to my first two questions, and then we can see if there is anything that can be done for you, but you might find a lot of problems go away when the system moves onto Season 2 tomorrow, and probably also gets a patch before the season goes live.

  • @asg547

    @asg547

    2 ай бұрын

    Con el botón derecho del ratón entra como administrador en iracin,a mí también me pasa pero así te cargará y podrás jugar

  • @iRacinVR

    @iRacinVR

    2 ай бұрын

    The 5% loading issue can happen when the iRacing Anticheat software does not install properly after an update. All you need to do is stop the iRacing service and manually reinstall the Anticheat software from the iRacing folder.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Excellent tip, thank you for posting. The VR Sim racing community rocks :) Just to note that when you stop the iRacing service, it needs to be restarted again. If you can't figure out how to do that, you can simply reboot the computer and that normally will do it for you.

  • @jesper.ordrup
    @jesper.ordrup2 ай бұрын

    oculus perfomance popup - is that from oculus debug?

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes it is. You open the Oculus Debug tool and there is a setting at the bottom that needs to be set to Performance (its a drop down menu choice). If you take a look at this video - kzread.info/dash/bejne/jINto5VyldzWkrQ.htmlsi=pB5FvYQYQjZxa06u it goes into some detail on what else you can do with the ODT.

  • @cSqualo
    @cSqualo2 ай бұрын

    I have a 14900k and a 4090 and I still get an unplayable result with ssr and quest 3...

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Apparently it is track dependant, in that some tracks will offer better performance than others, which is something I have often seen in iRacing. Have you tried this at Oulton Park?

  • @TheDjOfChoice
    @TheDjOfChoice2 ай бұрын

    Should select FXAA above SSR And in Nvidia control panel turn anisotropic filtering to 16x

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    I did have a look at FXAA, but I found that it caused a performance drop on my system for very little visual gain. In fact it seemed to make things less sharp. Anisotropic filtering, in the NVidia control panel I have set to Application controlled, as this is what has been recommended by those more knowledgeable than me on the iRacing VR forums.

  • @pamo5900
    @pamo59002 ай бұрын

    You dont need SSR to get shiny water puddles anymore. If that rendering res is for 1 eye it is way too high. Sending you my settings for fun to check :)

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Cool, thank you.

  • @tonyf9076
    @tonyf90762 ай бұрын

    At 5.35 you are showing 1.7 rendering resolution at 90hz, mine only goes up to 1.5 ???

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Are you using a Quest 2 or 3? This is for Quest 3, although I seem to remember it was for the 2 as well. Sometimes, I have found, the Oculus app doesn't update particularly well, and in those case I have found a complete uninstall of the app, then a fresh download of the recent app, and a fresh install is the only solution. You could try that, but I can't guarantee it will work.

  • @tonyf9076

    @tonyf9076

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective quest 3 mate, ok I'll give that a whirl 👍

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    cool

  • @BigDuke6ixx
    @BigDuke6ixx2 ай бұрын

    4090 user. In blind testing in the dry I was unable to tell the difference between 90 and 72, so I run 72 all the time.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, that's been my experience. I was racing the other day, admiring how smooth it all was, then noticed the FPS was 72 and realised I had forgotten to reset it back to 90Hz after my testing. So, yeah, a blind test is an important one, and I agree, it often reveals little difference between the refresh rates.

  • @hunterh1033

    @hunterh1033

    2 ай бұрын

    Would be interesting to see you do some SSR testing at 72Hz instead to see what the performance looks like. I imagine it should be a considerable difference.@@OlderGamersPerspective

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    That does appear in the conclusions to this video, but I will also do some longer 72Hz tests in the future.

  • @mementomori4972
    @mementomori49722 ай бұрын

    Yeah, the problem with SSR is that it actually helps you to see the puddles on the track, which of course are to be avoided when you're racing in the rain. That's a huge disadvantage.

  • @MrRamoSzz

    @MrRamoSzz

    2 ай бұрын

    without SSR you also see puddles, but much deeper onese. SSR mostly helps with knowing where are shallow "puddles" are or I would actually call them thin standing water :)

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    I didn't see too much help with puddles, using SSR, but I will admit, I am still getting used to rain in iRacing. Mostly I am getting used to trying to stay on the track.

  • @MrRamoSzz

    @MrRamoSzz

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective Basically SSR just adds reflections on the water on the track and doesn't affect actual puddles,m plus adds nice effect to track being wet, if you use SSR you will see better where the track is dty and where is not, but I think it is required for more pro drivers as then they know when to change to wet/dry tires :D

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    It is slightly worrying that this setting does potentially create an advantage for those who have systems capable of displaying it. This is the first time I have heard of a visual setting that can potentially help lap times, but that will not be available to all. Could prove controversial in the future.

  • @MrRamoSzz

    @MrRamoSzz

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OlderGamersPerspective Technically you can say when it is time to change tires without it and the amount of water in those places where SSR is present isn't enough to make a difference in braking compared to a less wet surface, so it is still more visual effect

  • @Simlife101
    @Simlife1012 ай бұрын

    I have a 4080 super and 13700k ddr5 5800mhz and your wrong I get 90fps locked at high settings with nit rate in ODT set to 900 and same graphics and SSR set to high on quest 3. Only my triple 1440p 170hz with the same settings SSR high rain and I get over 140 to 150fps. 4080 super is a beast so is the 13700k.

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Little confused. Which bit am I wrong about? Are you getting the fps you want or are you seeing drops at 90hz? I haven't really noticed any gain in visual quality when going about 500 in the ODT, but it did cause a lot of audio breaks, which I found off putting. To be honest, I have not seen a big difference between 500 and 300. Just out of interest... VR or triples? Which do you think are the better racing experience?

  • @alistairvictor8755
    @alistairvictor87552 ай бұрын

    automobilista2 120Hz quest 3 4070 OC

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    2 ай бұрын

    Rock and roll. Also a sim that features rain and has done for some time!

  • @matiaz0
    @matiaz015 күн бұрын

    Please, can someone give an 4080super to see what is capable of and see if its worth buy it onstead an 3080?. Thanks!! 😂

  • @OlderGamersPerspective

    @OlderGamersPerspective

    10 күн бұрын

    Sadly, I buy all my stuff with my own money and can't (at least not yet) afford to swap out graphics cards for tests. But if any makers of graphics cards starting sending me review copies, I will certainly be doing this :)

  • @Kultivater
    @Kultivater2 ай бұрын

    The only reason you don't notice much of a performance hit is because of your headset. Oculus headsets have low resolutions. Try running my headset with those settings(the HP Reverb G2). You'll be dropping to about 40 or less fps with that setup, and thats if you're using FSR in the vrperfkit.

  • @lisbonlion9043

    @lisbonlion9043

    2 ай бұрын

    The resolution of the G2 and quest 3 is pretty similar

  • @ReXzz

    @ReXzz

    2 ай бұрын

    Quest 3 and G2 resolution is nigh on identical...

  • @tonyf9076

    @tonyf9076

    2 ай бұрын

    Apart from the miniscule sweet spot on the reverb G2, the reason I went to quest 3. Much happier with the 3

  • @ACFUN34

    @ACFUN34

    2 ай бұрын

    Yea but Quest 3 is a streaming headset and you get double the latency and compression artifacts. Just get a Pico Neo 3 Link , it destroys all of them on sim racing. ​@@tonyf9076

  • @MiserableRacer

    @MiserableRacer

    2 ай бұрын

    You really don't have a clue do you? Go check Q3 resolution and comment again 😅

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