Good info for the masses getting into iRacing and how decrepit the software is and that how mostly it is dependent on CPU processing, not a a high end graphics card. And here lies iRacing's biggest problem, those new to the service, run on a minimal spec PC and lately, it seems, there's a lot of controller & mouse/keyboard drivers! I'v run a quad setup since 2015, so I need a high end built PC, which a new one was built last week.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Yes, there does seem to be quite a few controller warriors out there and many are terrible. I played sims like gran tursimo and project cars 2 on ps4 on controller before I got a wheel and I was so good that people couldn't tell I was on controller. Which makes me wonder why these people aren't better at controller if that is their only option. Also I started iRacing a few years ago on an fx 8350 and a gtx 760 and it ran fine on medium settings at 1080p. Its amazing to me how minimal you can go while on the other end , if your looking for higher resolution, high frames, full details, more screens or VR you basically need a super computer.

This video was very helpful, because currently I have a Ryzen 5 3600X + Radeon RX 580 8 GB system, and and I enjoy racing in VR, and many times I have only 40-50 fps in VR with an old Oculus Rift S, I plan to upgrade my system. I thought that a 3080 or 4070 could be a great investment for the upcoming years (I upgrade only once-twice in a decade normally), and now I see that I will need to upgrade my CPU too. As you mentioned, upgrading from Ryzen 5 3600X to a more powerful CPU would not break the bank that much. Thank you!

@manofyeo

2 ай бұрын

You are very much welcome! I highly recommend upgrading to a 5700x3d if it is on sale. In the U.S. it is $220 right now which is an amazing deal and will prolong the life of your system for 5 years or more. I'm tempted to get one to future proof, but the regular 5700x does a pretty good job already.

Great video! iRacing is certainly behind the times when it comes to utilizing modern hardware. I’m happy that the 5700x worked out for ya. Unfortunately the higher the resolution the worse the cpu bottleneck becomes. I use VR when in iRacing and have found that I would experience CPU bottlenecking with a 5900X and 3080 12GB. The CPU simply couldn’t keep up with feeding such high resolution frames to my GPU. The current best budget CPU is the 5800X3D with the best mid tier option being the 13600k and DDR4 mobo. As for me, it took going to the 13700k to make a meaningful jump in performance. It is my hope that when rain finally goes live with iRacing, that it comes with a transition to DX12.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Yes! The higher the resolution the MORE the CPU bottleneck. That is the reason I made this video. Common thought on the internet is that the higher the resolution the less cpu demand, which is true for many AAA games. But I think Sim Racing games in particular work to the opposite of common logic. 5800x3d is a magical cpu for sim racing, especially at $300. We can only hope that iRacing will do a major engine overhaul soon.

@ClevelandBeemer

Жыл бұрын

@@manofyeo time will tell with iRacing. The major issue at the moment is that the rendering thread is a single threaded process. So trying to supply two 3096x3096 frames at 90FPS plus is a major challenge.

@juno1597

Жыл бұрын

It's actually the other way around, the higher the resolution the lower the FPS, the lower the resolution the higher the FPS. The less GPU bound the game is playing, the higher the demand on the CPU to deliver FPS to the GPU, if you play a game at very high resolution the GPU will then become the bottleneck, not the CPU. Truth be told the prettier you make your game the worst it will run, if you want to play at a very high FPS run the game at very low settings at 720p and you'll really test the limits of your CPU, so if you want to be compeitive you have to make a trade off of visuals vs perfomance.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

@@juno1597 You're not wrong at all...especially in 99% of games, but in iRacing specifically the cpu demand seems to scale with resolution. And for some reason the cpu limited frame spikes become more noticiable with higher gpu demand. At 1080p with a 1050ti you don't notice it but with a 3080 you do. Its a very unique instance.

@RCSPARTAN77

11 ай бұрын

@@manofyeo Defintely not the case for me. Not only logically but in reality. E.G Feeding 60 frames @ 4k is easier than 144 @ 1440p. Your cpu must work at a much faster pace to keep frames ready. Have had this occur on iracing when I went up to 4k. My GPU usage goes up along with resolution. Interesting that you and others see the opposite occuring.

Helpful video - thanks for making

My Man! Great video!

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Good stuff on the video. I’m in a similar situation, although can’t really complain: 5600x with a 3080Ti running triple 1440p @ 144hz. It can deliver the 144 easily when by myself (crow on low and couple of other left side settings on medium), but on heavy traffic it goes down to about 110 and two weeks ago at Daytona 24, nighttime I was going down to around 75 in pits. I may consider the new am5 for a cpu upgrade (maybe 7800x3d).

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

The new 7000x3d will be a beast but honestly if your looking for a much cheaper (and easier) upgrade option I would get a 5800x3d for $300. You can update your bios on your motherboard and pop it right in. Could probably sell your 5600x for $100 or so dollars too. In the limited data I've seen it seems to almost double frames at the start of races. The extra cache seems to work wonders on all sim racing games.

@jpdmiranda

Жыл бұрын

@@manofyeo yeah I was considering that as an option to keep cost down and stay a bit longer on the AM4 platform before having to switch everything out. Or maybe even wait a month or two and see if prices drop even further with more AM5 cpus coming out. Thanks, and once again good info on the video - quite thorough

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

@@jpdmiranda It's my pleasure, thanks for watching! I think you could get many years out of the 5800x3d still. Am5 motherboards are really expensive still. At least DDR5 is starting to come down.

@chrisairone

Жыл бұрын

@@manofyeo Don't get it. Isn't the 3600x and 5600x a just a bit worse than the 5700x in single core? It shouldn't have the gains you are suggesting if the difference is like 10% only between the 3600 and 5700

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisairone The 3600 is significantly slower than both the 5600 and 5700x. This is why I made this video. I've watched every benchmark from the big channels and they don't account for the cpu load that sim racing games can put on the processor. 5600 probably would've had similar gains like I saw from 5700x. When you have a powerful GPU it exacerbates the cpu bottleneck in these situations. You can see it in the 4090 benchmarks; the stronger the GPU the more CPU power you need. I believe I saw a bigger discrepancy because of the ultrawide resolution I play at, 3440x1440p. Even though the pixel count is close to 4k, it still demands a lot out of the CPU.

BRO....finally someone doing a detailed video IN 4K. i can see all the text etc. good info too. Do you know what all the abbreviations actuially mean in iracing? R F etc in the meter bar?

@manofyeo

6 ай бұрын

I'm happy you found it useful! You can find detailed info on what the letters mean from iRacing here: support.iracing.com/support/solutions/articles/31000133494-meter-box-f-key-in-game-

Amazing video brother. Thank you. Crazy that with your new cpu and GPU combo it can only push 100fps. That’s some serious hardware you got there. The 1440 resolution just eats at the cpu/gpu im guessing?

@manofyeo

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, 1440p ultrawide is almost as demanding as 4k. But my monitor is 120hz and I can usually lock around 120fps so it works out pretty well.

I have the same issue with my 5800x. What are your settings? I’m running VR btw. But my CPU is the only one capping out

@manofyeo

8 ай бұрын

My issues were mainly with the settings maxed out but turning some of the shadow maps and other stuff in the middle of the settings can help. 5800x3d would probably help out your situation.

The 5700X is a great improvement from the 3600 as it offers a generational improvement over the 3600 in terms of IPC ( Instructions per cycle), Clock frequency, Core/thread count, cache, but it might have been a better investment to buy the 5800X3D as it takes the 5700X L3 cache from 36 MB to a massive 96 MB on the 5800X3D. Racing games see a huge improvment from large cache pools and the 5800X3D is not only the fast gaming CPU on the AM4 platform but it's one of the best value CPU buys on the market.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Yes I may consider this upgrade down the road if the price continues to decrease. The 5800x3d is the king of simulation games. At the time it was going for $350 and the 5700x was $200 so it was a little more than I wanted to spend. And the 5700x has performed flawlessly so far allowing me to hit my frame cap of 116 most of the time.

@kishdogg1594

4 ай бұрын

Whats up guy's im hoping someone can help me out. i hace a HP Victus 15L Model #TG02-0355z Ryzen 5700 6600xt. Can i play iracing on 1080p maxed out? If not which settings should i turn down to get the best performance

@juno1597

4 ай бұрын

@@kishdogg15941080p 60fps you probably can, if you're refresh rate is higher you may need to turn down the settings, turn everything to low, than gradually turn settings up until you reach your desired performance. You can probably max out texture quality, but you might struggle with post-processing effects with that GPU.

@kishdogg1594

4 ай бұрын

Ok thanks for the reply im gonna five it a try and see what happens

@kishdogg1594

4 ай бұрын

Should i consider upgrading the gpu would it be worth it to and still use the 6600xt

Great video! I’m currently building my first pc, iRacing focused, like almost 100% My old iMac can’t cut it anymore (yes I ran boot camp on a 2012 iMac this entire time😬) There are so many opinions around hardware. Right now leaning towards 7800x3d because of a MC deal. And pairing that with a 4070? My plan is to use my Samsung 4K tv as a monitor, maybe dabble in VR. Your thoughts? Is that overkill?

@manofyeo

4 ай бұрын

I think that its a smart choice. Microcenter has some great deals and AM5 is a great platform to get on because you will be able to update the cpu down the road. It may be overkill at first, but if you do end up going to VR or triple screens it will be very helpful. If you are going to spend that much I would try to squeeze a little more out for the gpu. I would get a 4070 super at the least. Its probably the best value right now. Thats a great solid base that will last you many years and will allow easy upgrades. 32gb of ram will be good for a long time too.

@stumpywigmaker

4 ай бұрын

What about going the other direction and picking up a 7800XT? Could save $80-$120. SO many options... Im not on a super strict budget, I just dont want to spend $2k when $1500 will meet my needs for the next few years. @@manofyeo

Very good video! Thanks. What GPU should I use for a AMD Ryzen 7 3700X? Please

@manofyeo

6 ай бұрын

You should be fine with up to a 3060ti, 3070, or 6700xt. Also depends what resolution you are going to be playing at and on what type of monitor. Do you have a monitor already?

I have. 5800X3D with a 6800XT GPU. Using triple 32” monitors I have trouble getting over 60FPS with full grids or at night. Having more monitors really stresses the platform. Not many people test CPU and GPU’s with triple monitors.

@manofyeo

3 ай бұрын

Triple 1080p is manageable but 1440 is tough and 4k is just an insane amount of pixels to drive, especially for simulation games. Its something that most people don't understand before they chose a triple monitor setup.

I went from a 5600x to a 7600x with a 3090. Found very little gains on the grid. By myself FPS goes up to 500 (1440P) in some cases, but on the grid it can go as low as 85fps. Still only using one monitor.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Yes it appears all cpu's will have lower frames on the grid due to iRacing's engine. As long as you're not getting drops during racing it's not a big deal.

I have a 5800X3D and 4070 Ti. All was rosy until I started racing in VR with a Quest 3. Now my CPU is near its limit, while the GPU is not even breaking a sweat.

@manofyeo

4 ай бұрын

VR is always going to be really taxing on hardware. I've never tried it but I know you have to set up some config files to get it running decently. The 7800x3d really isn't that much faster than the 5800x3d unfortunately so I would wait till the next gen comes out before upgrading.

I have a 3600 aswell but only a 3070, so I shouldn't be getting much bottlenecking right?

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Maybe a little but probably not enough to make for a bad experience. if you have any issues down the road you can always upgrade to a 5000 seires for fairly cheap and easy installation

I own a Hp Victus 15L 5700 6600xt. Can i run iracing on max settings

@manofyeo

4 ай бұрын

Depends what resolution you are running but at 1080p yes should be pretty easy. 1440p would probably run pretty good too but might need to adjust frames depending how many frames you were looking for. What kind of monitor are you running?

Thanks for sharing I got a rx7900xtx and a Ryzen 9 7950 triple screen 240hz monitors conected with 16k Display port cables I got it all about 3 months ago and I still got problems with fps and flickers What can I do to fix it Thanks mate

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

I would try locking FPS to wherever it is stable between 120 and 240. Also I would try turning freesync on or off if your monitor has it. Make sure that you have Smart Access Memory turned on in the AMD graphics settings and that your drivers are updated. I would also check on AMD.com to see if you have the latest chipset drivers for your motherboard

@fcukinwhat4714

Жыл бұрын

@@manofyeo thanks for your time I try it out👍

i am so glad i watched this cause i have a ryzen 5 3500 and a rtx 3070 and i know exactly what cpu to get now to get better performance out of it lol

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man the 5700x is awesome and it's been as low as $170 lately. Also if you want to max out your platform and be good for like 5-6 years spend a little extra and get a 5800x3d for like $280. Just make sure to update your bios before you take out your old cpu.

@smokesumthinyouneeditbuddy7195

Жыл бұрын

@@manofyeo well I'll prob get the 5700x for now tbh being on a tight budget I put most of my money towards my son, but I'll keep the 5800x3d in mind, i appreciate that info glad i subbed to you, i been searching around on youtube for a good cpu for my 3070 and your previous setup was near on point with my current setup with the bottleneck XD

Great stuff!! 32’’ Lg 2k 165hz monitor here I lock my fps to 163 in game even if i have 220 to 240 cuz i dont want to feel the drops… 5600x + 3070 + 16gb ram I could upgrade to a 3080 or 3080ti and it wouldnt cost me alot, do you recommend it?

@manofyeo

2 ай бұрын

You could if you wanted to future proof a little but if your going to stick with one monitor Id probably just wait a little longer and you can pick up something like a 4070 or 5070 down the road and it will be a lot more efficient. 3080s are great but you can get a new 4070 for not much more and it uses much less power for the same or better performance.

@banjoqc

2 ай бұрын

@@manofyeo great thanks! Thats what i figured after haha ! Ill upgrade for a 3080ti at a low price and close to me!!

@manofyeo

2 ай бұрын

@@banjoqc Cool! Undervolt it with msi afterburner and you can save like 100watts of power and it will run a lot cooler.

@DBatty

Ай бұрын

Do you get GPU related black screen crashes with the 3070? I’ve been having major issues whenever there is too much detail on the screen. I thought it might be because the 3070 only has 8gb Ram?

@manofyeo

Ай бұрын

@@DBatty I have a 3080 but I have never seen iracing use up too much VRAM unless the slider at the bottom of the graphics page is not set properly. You can also change it in the .ini file.

Not sure on others but I have 2080ti & 8700K on 3440x1440 UW and I easily get over 120FPS on med/high settings (even at start of race). I would have thought your fps would be alot higher than what you are getting on single screensetup.

@manofyeo

11 ай бұрын

Yeah when I had the 3070 briefly I didn't notice it but when I got the 3080 I started to notice it more. 8700k is pretty similar to 3600 but iRacing may favor intel over AMD or it may have better single core speed, which iRacing relies on. Interesting to know though.

GPU is still only running at 50%, so still not getting the max from that 3080. Have a play the the anti-alias settings. You may be able to get better looking graphics with no slow down - just more load on the GPU.

@Simlife101

11 ай бұрын

@RacingAnt I'm having this issue right now. I have the 3080 10gb and the 9900k stock 32gb ram and game in ssd but my GPU usage is around 45% upto 55% and the CPU is about the same and I'm getting around 85fps too 95fps on medium to high settings but no matter what I turn up I can't get the GPU usage to go up any ideas 🙏

@chemitaxis

11 ай бұрын

Exactly the same CPU + GPU combo and the same results, I don’t have this problem with ACC

I'm running a 3060 12GB with a Ryzen 5 1600 with triple HD monitor. I'll swap to a 5600X I got for a good price. Next step will be a 4070 Ti or Ti Super. Thanks for the video.

@manofyeo

4 ай бұрын

You will notice a big difference with the 5600x. And its nice to always have the 5800x3d as after that. Good luck

I'm running the Ryzen 5 3600 and a RTX 3070 at the moment but I'm waiting on a Ryzen 7 5800X3D to come in. Should be here in the next couple of days. Also got an AIO cooler for it as well as a 1tb nvme ssd as I've been running iRacing on my boot drive which is only a 250gb nvme ssd and it's running out of space. Also adding an extra 16gb ddr 4 to the mix to give myself 32gb ram so that there's no excuse for bottlenecking.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Nice! That should get you a very competent pc that will last for many years to come. You can never have enough space and NVME drives have dropped massively lately which is awesome. To me 32 GB of ram is the new standard, especially if you are multitasking. Games like BeamNG use over 16gb on some tracks and can cause crashes.

@SOfilmable

2 ай бұрын

Hey it's been some times but how was the upgrade from 3600 to 5800x3d ?

@bryndaldwyre3099

2 ай бұрын

@@SOfilmable Huge difference. Still running the 3070 but I'm on a B550 platform now so I get a decent boost in performance in all games and general use. Looking to get a 4070ti as my next upgrade though. Also got myself the Meta Quest 3 and iRacing is running amazing on it.

@SOfilmable

2 ай бұрын

@@bryndaldwyre3099 thank you

will a rtx 4070 and ryzen 5600 work well together at 1440p max settings? what amount of fps could i expect?

@manofyeo

22 күн бұрын

Yes that should be fine. With one monitor you will likely max out whatever the refresh rate is on it. Should easily get over 100 fps in most cases, except at the start of the race. You can always upgrade to a 5700x3d for $200 if you have an cpu issues but it shouldn't be a problem.

@gojiprods

22 күн бұрын

@@manofyeo ty bro, and what gpu and cpu should i get if i wanna get triple 1440p or 4k monitors?

@manofyeo

19 күн бұрын

@@gojiprods Triple 4k is super demanding and you will need pretty much a 4080 super or 4090 for high frame rates. I'd go with 1440p since its way less demanding. You're still gonna want a pretty high level gpu I'd say atleast a 4070/3080 but higher would be better if you want max frames. For cpu If you are building new I would go with a 7800x3d as its the best gaming cpu for sim racing and can upgrade for many years. If you are on a tighter budget the 5700x3d will offer really great performance as well but wont be upgradeable.

hey that helped a lot thanx

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Im running a 12900k With a 3080 trying to boost my VR super sampling and am running into the same issue. 1.8x super sampling GFX card at 60% usage but can't go any higher. Sucks because iracing is the only racing Game I want to play...

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Can only do so much with such an old platform. 12900k is no slouch either. I would be curious to see how the new ryzen 7800x3d performs on iRacing.

i run a r7 2700x with a 3060ti and im planning on getting a 49in ultrawide. what do you think it'll work on aproximately 120fps?

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Hard to say because of many variables but I would guess that it would average 60-80 fps. By yourself in less demanding scenes you will probably see 120+. In more demanding parts like the start of races you will probably see it drop to 60 or lower. But as long as the gameplay is smooth it should be fine. I would just see how it does and then change some of your graphics settings around to try and tweak it. 49 ultrawide is really demanding so I would probably consider upgrading GPU and CPU down the road if you have a hard time. Let me know if you need help.

@snikkol

Жыл бұрын

i run a quad 1440p setup on iracing with a 3060ti for a year, did had a ryzen 5800x tho.. 140fps in race, starts round 60-85fps but no crowd, and les details around track, no shadowing options..

@maxistefe

Жыл бұрын

@@snikkol ok, soy probably i shoul make a CPU upgrade first

@snikkol

Жыл бұрын

@@maxistefe yeah I have a 4090 now with a ryzen 7900x and still experience fps drops. So I think a better cpu in combination with the 3060ti will be solid! Do you run 32gb memory on high speeds?

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

@@snikkol 3060ti is a very good card for the price. I always recommend is as a baseline for someone getting into multi-monitor or vr sim racing setups. I've used a few in builds for friends and it always packs an impressive punch.

I plan on getting a 4070 card. What cpu should I pair with it as Iracing is the only game I play?

@manofyeo

10 ай бұрын

Well what kind of monitors and how many of them do you plan on using? That really makes a huge difference. But either way I would go for atleast a ryzen 5600 or intel 12400 at the minimum and if you have the budget or want to future proof more go with the ryzen 7600x or higher or intel 13400 or higher. 6 cores will be enough if thats all you are doing. If you think you will have multiple monitors doing more multitasking down the road then consider an 8 core. Also the ryzen 5800x3d is pretty much the best bang for your buck but is on an end of life platform. The 7800x3d is even, but more expensive. It is on a new platform that will support multiple new generations of cpus down the line though.

will the 5800x3d help with a 4070ti.....or will the procesor you put in work...i have the 3600

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

The 5800x3d would help drastically in sim racing games with a 4070ti. You would probably see a 30-50% increase in the framerates, especially the lows. 3600 will certainly work, you just may have some slow downs in the cpu demanding parts. Depends what resolution you are running at as well.

@wanabgt

Жыл бұрын

3 monitors and it keeps putting the r and g in the red in the back of the pack drops down to like 40 fps

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

@@wanabgt You are definitely hitting a CPU bottleneck if the monitors are 1080p or 1440p. 5800x3d would help greatly. I think it is a very worthwhile investment.

@wanabgt

Жыл бұрын

It's that or upgrade the mother board and go bigger

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

@@wanabgt True, but 5800x3d is gonna be about half the price and just as good. Should last you for many years to come.

I don't understand this comment: "Only one core is being utilized and is nearly maxed-out at 100%. Look at these other cores which have almost zero utilization" I don't see that. I see the first 3 cores in the current column getting used in the 34% to 70% range and 3 cores getting used 27% to 48% range. No core or thread is close to 100% and none are almost 0 in the current column. Please explain. Looking at max column, I do see one core/thread which hit 100% . That might be indicative that you are CPU bound for an instant but the current column seems to be much lower than 100% for that same core/tread.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

I know what I said doesn't perfectly line up I may have made a little too much of a generalization but basically all I was trying to show is that only few of the cores are nearing full utilization while other are in the 20-30 percent range. It's a rough estimate because of background tasks as well but if you compare this to a more modern game that uses more cores you will see utilization is more spread out. Also Iracing recently added the ability for the damage model to use up to 8 cores so I'm not sure exactly how that affects this but I found that out recently. I apologize is this was misleading; that wasn't my intention.

@stuboyle666

Жыл бұрын

@@manofyeo Oh, no apology necessary. It looks like iRacing was using 1/3 or 1/2 of the threads fairly heavily but not really maxed-out. Maybe as an alternative what was your GPU utilization? If it never got to 100% then maybe your CPU bound, otherwise you are GPU bound? The ultimate test is throwing a new CPU in and see what happens but you want to have pretty good idea for you drop the cash for a new CPU. What I did learn was that back of the grid at the start is very CPU intensive. If you're primarily a "hot lapper" the new CPU may not be quite as critical.

Is a Ryzen 5600 good with a 4060 ti?

@manofyeo

Ай бұрын

Yes it will work perfectly fine. And down the road you can upgrade to a 5700x3d if you need more cpu power.

I'm running a R5 3600 @4.3GHz with my RTX 3080 and as a result of the CPU bottleneck I currently run my GPU with a 75% power limit because why not... Picking up a 5800X3D the next time they are on sale.

@manofyeo

8 ай бұрын

It's a worthwhile investment that will certainly last for years in the sim racing realm. I'm tempted to get one before they are out of production.

@SOfilmable

2 ай бұрын

Have you done it and was the ypgrade worth it ?

@Daz555Daz

2 ай бұрын

@@SOfilmable yes. 5800X3D is a massive upgrade for iRacing compared to 3600. Worth it 100% if you have a higher end GPU - 3080, 3090, 4070, 4080 etc.

Iracing RAM 8 is it possible?

@manofyeo

Ай бұрын

8gb of RAM? Yes its possible. I have a friend that runs a i5 9400, 1050ti and 8gb of ram with no issues at 1080p.

@fajares27

Ай бұрын

@@manofyeo but on Steam it says 16gb RAM, is that okay?

@manofyeo

Ай бұрын

@@fajares27 It should be fine. My buddy has no problems. But I would recommend upgrading to 16 or 32 at some point its useful especially if you have extra programs open at the same time.

@fajares27

Ай бұрын

@@manofyeo how much gb iracing bro?

I've got an old i7 6700 and just brought a NVIDIA 3060, but I will be buying in the next few weeks a i7 12700 and motherboard that will run them. Should be better then the 1060 I'm running at the moment lol

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Yes that will be a pretty nice upgrade!

Classic,...it's even more of a problem, if you already have the highest end cpu that your motherboard can handle. In that case you also have to upgrade the moterboard. Then you realize that your new motherboard requires DDR5 instead of the older generation DDR4 ram which was installed on your old motherboard,...and if you're completely out of luck, your 500w power supply does not provide enough power for the new cpu/gpu configuration,...well sh!t, guess what, now you basically need a completely new system and the balls to tell your wife why you just spent 2k an a "video game"

@manofyeo

8 ай бұрын

Yes it is a slippery slope indeed my friend! That's why I always seek out the best budget options. It's easy to go overboard and get stuff you don't really need. AM4 platform is awesome because you can upgrade across so many generations of CPU. Hopefully AM5 will last many years like its predecessor.

@advanceddarkness3

7 ай бұрын

Only if you went with Intel. The AM4 platform lived forever and the 5800x3d will make sure it stays there even longer.

@Niiwastaken

Ай бұрын

Thats what generational improvements require? Atleast you can upgrade between generations.

I run 4k hdr at 120 fps easy. Cpu 5800x3d gpu 7900xtx 32gb ram @3200hz. I only use 6 cores, and the other 2 run aster in an arcade box my kids play. Everything is maxed, except mirrors are off and the top tier of shadows.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Nice, that's a really powerful setup!

I tested with a Ryzen. 5 5500 and the GPU uses 99% but the CPU remains at around 30%..

@manofyeo

23 күн бұрын

All is good then.

Try 5800x3d next, it’s big jump in iRacing performance again

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

Yes I'm definetely considering it before they stop producing it. Its hard to resist at $280, but my 5700x is running flawlessly so we will see.

@ewenblack4174

Жыл бұрын

5800x3d+4090= still get sub 100fps drops on some tracks drops on triple 1440🤦🏾‍♂️

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

@@ewenblack4174 Can thank that the iRacing engine for that.

Spending half of the time explaining how it depends on single core performance and at the end still offering to buy 5700x.. Stick to 5600(x) if you value you wallet capacity.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

I'm only offering what I did. I do heavy multitasking with multiple monitors and the extra cores helped significantly. Sure if you use one monitor and don't multitask save your self $50 bucks...but at $180 the 5700x is the bargain king right now and will last for many years to come. Also better for future proofing with consoles now being 8 core.

@eviliso

Жыл бұрын

@@manofyeo you are trying to be educational about iracing (or gaming in general), so stick to it. Do not misslead people with your choises or make explanation on that. There are almost none games that fully utilize multicore processing power, so 8 cores in iracing or in most other games - has 0 benefit. Also monitor count has nothing to do with..

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

@@eviliso It is not misleading at all...I never once said don't buy a 5600. 5600 is an amazing budget option. But there is a reason it is the lowest processor in the lineup. I watch videos and racing on a secondary monitor while I am gaming at 3440x1440p on my main monitor. I have many tabs open in my browser, numerous programs, things like discord, trading paints, sim hub, overlays, steam open all at the same time. On top of top of that I have Adobe Premiere or Photoshop open most of the time. Doing all of these things at once I use over 20gbs of RAM frequently and having 2 extra cores helps make it smoother. It also makes rendering quicker. Therefore, for my use spending an extra $50 was well worth it. If you are building a strict budget PC where you can't go over $400, yes get the 5600. The 5600 is amazing for the value. But a lot of people are spending $1000's on their sim rigs and accessories and can probably spare the extra $50. I am just trying to offer my experience. Sorry if it isn't exactly what Hardware Unboxed told you but I'm just trying to inform people of unique situations that can occur.

You lost me when you said the code was from 2008. Dude, you really think that that is the main reason why iRacing is CPU heavy?

@manofyeo

6 ай бұрын

Its one of the reasons. Ever hear of spaghetti code? Yes racing sims in general put a large demand on the cpu but there are other sims that don't have this problem so being based on a 20 year old game that came out when cpus had one core is certainly one of the contributing factors.

@frederiquerijsdijk

6 ай бұрын

@@manofyeo Yes I know what that is. But do you really believe that iRacing is still that? You really don't think they haven't made huge improvements over time? I mean the fact that the UI still looks more or less the same doesn't mean that 'under the hood' huge improvements have been made and things have developed into more modern times.

@manofyeo

6 ай бұрын

@@frederiquerijsdijk I think its a mix of original coding and new, more updated coding. I know they have done quite a bit of work to update it all and are constantly updating it but Im pretty confident that there is still a large base of original code in there for physics and graphics that hasnt been completely overhauled. It would be almost impossible for them to completely rebuild it from the ground up. Also there is quite a bit of content that is original and unrefined. Their newer tracks are finally looking more modernized but they announce when they are rebuilding tracks. Also they do support 8 cores for the new damage model, which is an option you can turn on in an .ini file, but it appears to only be for the damage model and nothing else. Thats why single core speed still matters so much in iRacing.

believe it or not your CPU is responsible for down converting 4K -to- 1440 and 1440 -to- 1080.... a monster GPU paired with a underachieving CPU will make the CPU suffer. if you used a GPU that thrived @ 1440 I would be less work for a lower end/ older CPU to deal with. also: iRacing has a FPS limiter.... I saw in your video it's not on, set max FPS @ 90 -or- 84 (stock setting) then you won't be wasting utilization trying to hit a unrealistic FPF by yourself, only to bee slowed down in a pack..... that is what the FPS limiter is for.

@manofyeo

Жыл бұрын

I actually limit my FPS in the NVIDIA control panel to 116 so that it stays within the g sync range of my monitor since it is 120hz. I usually turn it off for benchmarking to demonstrate the full potential. And even with the limits in place I would still experience slow downs.

@Yogurt4655

Жыл бұрын

That is not *at all* how CPUs work, lmao. What an insane statement to make.