Hey folks - Just a reminder that in the video I specifically note I'm unclear/fuzzy on exactly how/when IQ2 will ship units to everyone else. And, now 5 months later - that remains the case. I also noted multiple times it wasn't a full review. I generally only do full reviews on final hardware/software, which this was not. Once IQ2 starts shipping to everyone else, I'll circle back on new hardware and go from there. However, I'd be hesitant at this time to put in an order for IQ2 units until they can actually start shipping. Otherwise, it's mostly just more delays (even if those delays are for perfectly valid component delay reasons). Cheers!

@josetrb

3 жыл бұрын

They are not even answering emails nor procesing refunds, total scam

@londast

3 жыл бұрын

For me the whole Operation is a scam. I am asking for a refund since end of September, two Times the paypal refund bounced due to insufficent funds and now they are ignoring my requests completely and with that issue i am not the only one. Maybe you should do a Video on that?

@HappyDuude

3 жыл бұрын

Noting here that it's Feb 2021 and the campaign is quiet. As FYI this video is the top organic search results for iq2 after their own product pages

@tf2293

3 жыл бұрын

@@londast yup.. Had to get my bank involved to get my money back.. It's a fyre festival style scam... They use influencers to fool people to believe this is real and exists, then take the money and refuse to issue refunds with strings of emails apoligizing for delayed refunds, and their accounting team is dealing with it.. Its a endless loop that ends in you 300quid down and them in a ferrari laughing..

@londast

3 жыл бұрын

@@tf2293 i got my money back in April after they got a Letter by the european consume Center. If they wouldnt have helped me I dont think that I ever gotten back the money

11:05 That guy jogging probably didnt appreciate you calling him a cow. Good job as usual.

DCR, your level of detail is only rivaled by your patience! Keep up the good work.👊

Thanks for the initial test and results! I can't wait for the follow up with significantly more test data and use cases.

Absolutely remarkable that these exist at all, let alone looking pretty solid from your first impressions. Very interested to see how they manage a broader release to the public, and how the fare over time!

I'm trying to imagine the big sigh of relief when the IQ2 ppl saw this video

@jamesmillers2953

4 жыл бұрын

You have no idea :)

@chrisholdstock8247

4 жыл бұрын

No idea at all 🤣

@wayslow

4 жыл бұрын

Relief? Dude, it's been 2 years AND they haven't even shipped road pedals, the MTB ones I ordered were only briefly mentioned as "later".

@CycoWarriorx

4 жыл бұрын

Langor 🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@edrcozonoking

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. But I changed my option to the mtb so... Fingers still crossed.

it weighs exactly.... 199 grams

Also a KS backer and glad to see a finished product. Hopefully the dual sided will be out before the end of this year.

Great video. I'm a bit more reassured that I didn't waste my money backing this project on the the day it went live. The weight difference between the left and right pedal is certainly..... interesting!

@arenozo4152

4 жыл бұрын

Seems like he weighted the left power meter pedal without the battery in it. Don't know if with the battery installed it would weight the same as the right "dummy" pedal.

Unbelievable, I am one of the initial KS backers and I resigned myself to never seeing an IQ2 powermeter. So much so I bought the Assioma Duos which are excellent. Only 2 years late but IQ2 may actually deliver which is no mean feat given the number of failed power meter start-ups!

@_AJH_

4 жыл бұрын

I hope so as it will still mean I get a cheap power meter so I'm still excited.

@OttoVanluchene

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@ydrinkcoke

4 жыл бұрын

I've been checking the Favero page daily for the last month or so hoping to get a pair of Assioma Duo's. At this point, I might hold off and get these if they're going to come out in the next few months

@uhohDavinci

4 жыл бұрын

How late is iq2 now? since their initial proposed release date?

@wattmetryczchannel8597

4 жыл бұрын

Better late than never. 2yrs. is not bad if Iq2 will ship this summer.

Thanks Ray, been waiting a long time to see this. 👍🏼

very clear story , great to see iQ2 is into the wild right now

I should've known this video would arrive the day after my 4ii power meter did.

@AlanJames

4 жыл бұрын

A week after my specialized crank based meter too. I wanted the MTB pedals which still seem far away

@battles4seattle665

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, same!

@SinAlameda

4 жыл бұрын

I still might buy something else. I backed the double sided, which is further away than the single sided, which has no actual eta anyway. I see progress of course, but have to wonder if these guys will run out of money before they can actually ship product.

@RossTheNinja

4 жыл бұрын

@@SinAlameda I hope it works out. I got burned by watteam so went with a safer bet.

Love how you have a pair of Forerunner 305s for table decoration 😀

Huzzah, well done iq2 for sticking at it. Let's hope for more positive tests.

I'll keep my Assioma duo's. Thanks for the video.

Yay IQ2. Oh, wait, road cleats. Sigh. Standard top quality stuff, Ray. I hope you know how awesome your contribution to the world is.

@illuminatus2301

4 жыл бұрын

There is an MTB version as well

@fruityMangoExperience

4 жыл бұрын

@@illuminatus2301 but it isn't available at the moment. It'll take them some time (probably a lot of time if you consider how long it took them to ship the first single sided road bike Powermeter)

Good to see the hammerhead Karoo on there. I’ve the garmin 830 and the hammerhead and love exploring with the Karoo over anything else.

Very interested, looks good so far, looking for a budget power meter so cannot wait for the full review. like the idea of a pedal power meters, cannot wait

Great video! The weight difference of the IQ2 pedals at the beginning of the video is because the CR2032 battery was not inserted in the left pedal.

@Dcrainmaker

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, still short. That only covers 2g of it.

Looking forward to the full review.

Thought you’d have given us more backstory given the difficult labour this has had! I guess you were just relieved to finally get them. (Yeah, and they have arrived 2 weeks after I got my 4iii lefty 😞)

Can’t wait to finally get my hands on them. I think I’ll order a pair of keo cletes now, as I now ride with Shimano.

exciting day !! IQ2 finally appears !!

@ianrob4760

4 жыл бұрын

so the key point here Ray is the price point for general sale ? on first look I would buy it on your report here, I have the Assioma now so no need !

Great video as always so have to give you some grief..... sun glasses arms on the outside of your helmet straps, always 😎. Love your informative insights 👍

Thanks for the review. Original backer here, I gave up on ever receiving them months ago. If mine ever arrive, they're going right up on E-ba because they're late, heavy, bigger Q factor and only support Look cleats. Other than that, they seem great. Cheers

@HolmsOnBikes

4 жыл бұрын

Q factor actually is same as others. Weight wise theyre right in the middle of the pack. (Lighter than Vector 3's). Watch Shane millers video.

Wow, that looks really good! Impressed and pleased. I will still be waiting a bit for my MB dual sided pedals - but I was concerned that it might be loosely goosey on the first go round. I originally supported this because I was really hoping for a game changer power meter that would be simple enough and cheap enough that they would just start to be standard on a bike like speed and cadence. This is no longer really that, but does appear to prove the concept, where they are using a “printed” (thin film) strain gauge. I think this will also be a much more durable solution than the insertable pods (although not as flexible in usage scenarios). Keep up the testing, sir, as always.

I'm following these for some time now, happy to see them finally delivering a working unit. I like to know if the unit has temperature compensation to help mitigate against temperature drift?

Thanks for the video. And more thanks for all the warnings about the big delay schedule in production. I wonder if people hava started to actually get their pedals. Or if IQ2 started mass producing this product already. It looks like a great idea, but also it's cleat the developers/designers overestimated "a bit" their capacity to craft rgis product. I will wait until it starts to get massproduced to give it a chance, or better, a new review with the final production Pedal, the one that everyone will be getting...hopefully.

Excellent review very informative - looking forward to the MTB version

I've just cancelled my pre-order for these pedals and ordered a set of Assiomas. I think IQ2 guys deserve a lot of credit though. They had their first 'working' prototype on a bike in February 2018, just 3 years ago (as of writing). That might sound like a long time for those waiting for PMs, but given the total redesign of the product and the lost year of 2020 this would be an astonishingly short time for an established brand to bring a new product to market, let alone a brand-new-from-scratch start-up.

@tf2293

3 жыл бұрын

You cancelled 4 months ago..? 🤣🤣 How's that worked out... Got your money yet? I know the answer tbh..

Hi DC, have you got a comparison video of different power meters and also an explanation as to which type of power meter you think is best in terms of placement? If not that's definitely something I'd be interested in! Many thanks for another great & in-depth video.

Nice FR305s on the table! ;) I still have mine in the drawer...

fingers crossed for the MTB version I picked. I think Ill get the Assiomas and sell these when I get them.

Hi! I've just looked up t their website and eventually, there will be a dual left and right pedal system for just 299 euros (the single side left or right is on special at 199 euros). I can't wait to read your full analysis of these pedals and for them to be available...

Gotta love data

great news!! waiting the full review, only 200 euros for the both side, amazing !!

@T1mj3n

4 жыл бұрын

200 for one side,isn't it?

I like the fact they have the spd option, but for my road bike I‘ll stick with the favero assioma duo...

Thanks for the video. Any idea how the accuracy would be affected by the use of a 20mm spacer between the crank and the pedal?

Thanks man I will order them now with a lot more trust.

Thanks for the great review DC, always solid information coming from your page! My question is to the reliability of signal transmission when using battery operated power meters. I've struggled and returned Vector 3's (on three occasions) and a Stages Shimano Dura-Ace Power meter, because they keep dropping or spiking or only connecting one side, etc. The Stages issue was exacerbated by the fact that I have a Garmin Fenix 5, which apparently has issues with Stages, and I am aware of the Vector battery caps issues (which didn't solve the issues for me personally). I believe the real issue is battery contact and not the power meters themselves. Have the IQ2 pedals solved the battery contact conundrum, or should I move to a fixed battery (rechargable) arrangement and forgo the frustrations of shaking battery contact altogether?

Seeing two old school Garmin forerunner 205 on the desk amongst the edge 830 🤔

Bit the bullet and ordered the dual version for Euro 299. Shipping to Switzerland, Euro 20. Swiss customs might charge an extra CHF 30 (~8%). I have been holding off on power meters for the last couple of years, but this video finally tipped me over. Delivery is mid-2020, as per their website. Let's hope I don't get a lemon ;-) For comparison, Garmin Vector 3's are at around Euro 700 (excluding shipping and customs). Favero Assioma's are out of production (for now, given the Covid19 situation in Italy, and elsewhere). Some sites are carrying them for Euro 660, but not sure if they will deliver at all.

@TheDkw77

4 жыл бұрын

This video has definitely made me much more tempted to preorder... am in the uk so 🤞for shipping before the transition period with eu runs out.

Hi Ray, any timeline for the full review? Thanks for the great content.

Thank you so much for this review! It helps me a lot to choose which powermeter I should buy without spending too much money. I have one question I couldn‘t find the answer in my research. Are the iQ2 Powermeter pedals compartible with the Germin Watch 255s music?

Finally. It looks promising.

It’s going to be all about 1. Are they are reliable as the assiomas? 2. Are they cheaper than the assiomas? 3. Can you deal with the weight difference?

IQ2 vs. Assioma would be a fantastic comparison

Thanks for the review, look forward to an update. This was enough for me to order regardless./ Yes, half price of cheapest competitor and I use look pedals. I too had an email from iQ2 and this was part of their reply a few days ago: "we are currently producing the Road singles and dual sets and are planning to ship small amounts over the coming weeks." Curious though, do you have an idea what the 4 countersunk holes are in the pedal body?

Great video as always. Production and editing level is really high compare few years ago! You are proper KZreadr now ;-) You have lot of crap on your phone, but that's fine. BTW, I have one question about IQ2 pedals. Do IQ2 pedals boost your iq or cycling iq of your bike? I am looking to see if there is added value which will this PM real smart... :-)

7:00 - i'm dying laughing Thank you for another top notch vid and staying true to your unbiased self, best part of the channel!

@Dcrainmaker

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!!

Great video very informative!! What Canyon bike are you using?

Hi, very nice video!! We want a review comparing these powermeter with Garmin and Favero assioma. Thank you!!

@DC Rainmaker hows the feel of the pedal? They look a bit too plasticy in my eyes.

Thanks Ray

I know this is a video about the power meter, but... damn is that Karoo head unit humongous.. thought for a second you did another "ipad on handlebar" kinda thing

I wonder what the battery drain will be when you let the battery in the pedal🤔 like the first issues at stages in one day from 100% to 0%?

What's the difference between a right pedal power meter and a left pedal power meter?

Thanks for the video. Have you checked this pedals with the polar grit x? It migth be my option... thx!,

So with all the twists and turns, will they be able to maintain the price at 299, or is that going to go up more in line with their competitors?

9:47 crankset spindle moving inside of bottom bracket

I was backing two years ago because I wanted powermeters to go with crankbrothers pedals, so whatever comes will be a dissapointment. I must say i'm not unimpressed, though. (oh and very proud of our local bike infra ;)

It would be good to know how easily serviceable the bearings are. IQ2 won't give an answer on that yet and it's a pretty big issue with pedal-based power meters.

i think the new dual power meter is now available out in market, maybe a new data analysis soon?

Are they going to get my €299 for dual pedals if i ordered today. So cheap compared to others.

I think I've given up on ever receiving my units and if I ever receiver them, I'll probably just sell them. As soon as I return to cycling outside I'm going to pick up some Vectors instead.

@marcm2957

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Wells assioma flawless....

Does it need to be calibrated every ride or just upon installation?

Loving the 69% battery on a brand new device.

@_clemens_

4 жыл бұрын

Later it became 100%...it's not that easy to give a good estimation on how much charge is left in a non rechargeable battery. Each one have slightly different characteristics (different base voltage) and you just have to look how the voltage drops slightly over time (and it so can take some minutes until the % number is correct). For rechargeable batterys you can test the voltage/charge curve by doing a full discharge and calibrate your percentage based on that, which makes it easier and more accurate. On their website IQ² claims 140 hours of battery, which sounds good...but let's wait and see what the full review of DCR says about battery life.

@Adurianman

4 жыл бұрын

Nice

worth a punt @199 euro for single sided,also when do they think they are going to ship single and dual?

It kinda sucks for the time it took. But I’m happy for them to be accurate atleast. Waited for like 2 years and I got 2 powermeters waiting for this one.

I love my Favero Assioma Duo

How is the "clicking-in-feeling"? 🙂 Is it the same like with original Look Keo Pedals?

The bottom bracket bearings seems to be completely shot, look carefully from around 9:44 in the video. Crank is wobbling all over the place. Not good, although shouldn't affect the readings, I guess.

@darinsteele7091

4 жыл бұрын

Meh, My Octalink BB has been doing that for a long time and still works fine.

which pedal do you recommend the be one of the best? i used vector 3 single side but curious to add to my other bike so do not have to switched pedal between bike

Been 2 months since you first tested those pedals. How is your view after those 2 months? Any thoughts on durability?

so, all u need is the app connected to the phone, can you skip the registration? i see not point in giving my data for a product that does not need the company to function

How will they be sold? Direct from the manufacturer or some other way?

Super well made video.

I'm more impressed with that cycle lane infrastructure. Makes where I live look embarrassing.

@Bishop0151

4 жыл бұрын

Holland can make just about anywhere else a little to very embarrassing. It comes form a society level investment, financial and attitude, that seems to be a challenge outside of Nordic countries.

@andreww1928

4 жыл бұрын

Perth, Western Australia has an excellent cycle path network too.

@mrnobody9821

4 жыл бұрын

I find the Dutch in general super cool and friendly people, the roads are a dream for cyclists and even driving as a foreigner is easy. Holland ftw!

Cool...sounds good👍

Any thoughts on how the SPD pedals might hold up to rock strikes?

Have you any review of the dual pedals? Thanks

Try measuring with the battery in

Hi, love your videos! Have you had any long term experience with the pedals?

@Dcrainmaker

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, as noted I would be waiting for final hardware before doing anything long term (or anything called a 'review') . Where we find ourselves now (5 or so months later), is exactly why I do it that way - so that I can ensure whatever it is I'm reviewing is the same hardware/software as consumers are getting. As noted in the video/post, I was concerned about the production aspect of this hardware, and unfortunately, that's what came true.

I'm going to until shimano bring out their dual pwr pedals.

Installation actually looks easier than (Look old spindle + new pcb) SRM Exakt

@Dcrainmaker

4 жыл бұрын

It was. Definitely. Not as easy as new SRM X, but way easier and cleaner than old one.

@kevinbelton7857

4 жыл бұрын

Think I'd follow your video for installation makes it look easy compared to the IQ2 one 👍

weight difference being the battery? (as in not installed when weighed)

@Dcrainmaker

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, tried that, less than a gram.

Two months now since that video and the website says delivery for end of July. Ray, if you are reading this comment, do you maybe have any updat on whether this will actually happen? I’m thinking of buying but just reading all the comments I’m doubting whether I should.

I was on the iq2 website and they say the pedals are compatible with spd sl cleats. Yours are compatible with look keo. Do we know which system the final product will have?

Did you ever do the full review?

Does the Cadens sensor work correctly?

Hey, but what cycling computer is that on the bike and table?

One month on, have you had any further thoughts and findings??

Cant wait for a pedal power meter that is a speedplay design :P

@gfeliciano143

3 жыл бұрын

Your wish is coming true!

AT LAST!!!

So they do exist......Nice

@Dcrainmaker

4 жыл бұрын

At least one set! Well, make that two sets - including the first ones I broke. 😂

@toadlguy

4 жыл бұрын

They did have some more that users that could come to their office were trying out a while back 😀

Rondje ringvaart. Altijd leuk

Im curious, did people received there pedals yet ? If so what do you think ?

Hi Ray, don't forget to grease the pedal threads :)

@Dcrainmaker

4 жыл бұрын

Not stated in the non-existent ‘manual’. 😂🤷🏼‍♂️

@kevinbelton7857

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly 👍

How much time the batterys are lasting on those pedals?