iPhones & iPads Used For Airplane Avionics
Here is one cool gem I found at Oshkosh this year. A full glass panel avionics system that's built from iphones and ipads. Guardian avionics offer aircraft owners both certified and experimental aircraft, a more affordable solution to modern avionics.
It's no secret that glass avionics even in GA is very very very, did I say very? expensive. Especially for older planes. Sometimes an aircraft owner would spend more on upgrading their avionics to glass than they paid for the aircraft. Well Guardian is moving into this space to save the day.
Their solutions for pilots includes; a data box and cloud service which will help sync your flight data and automatically safe it in the cloud so you have access to it whenever you need.
A full IFR panel that includes the garmin G5, GTN 375 and autopilot system will run roughly $20,000.
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This is an amazing budget option! Thanks for sharing Mike! Tough decisions ahead!
@mcorrive12
2 жыл бұрын
What's wild is he says that's a 20k panel. But much of the equipment is reusable if you want to upgrade down the road. So it's really just a great stepping stone avionics package it your ultimate goal is Garmin/dynon but don't want to spend for it right away. Very cool!
$20k for that set up!!!!! That’s really value for money. Thanks Mike. I can see a lot of GA owners. Upgrading.
Nice sequence, Mike! I think it is very reasonable. G5 @ $2500, Guardian modules (data and engine) @ $1900, two iPad mount kits @ $800... then bring your own iPads which many of use will already have or can use the other 28 days a month we're not flying. You're into an all-glass twin-panel setup with lots of features for less than $7500. Assuming radio and analog are already there but could be a complete setup for less than $10k. Very reasonable for the sheer square inches worth of glass and ever-improving feature set. Excellent value!
@CatharticTV
2 жыл бұрын
Until you're forced by FAA to pay an installer $20k for connecting the colored wires together.
@stoneyislandranch9783
Жыл бұрын
I'd say about 16k with labor
I think this is clearly where we are heading for some parts of the market. iPads have some amazing capabilities and the cost per extra display is hard to beat compared to anything in the aviation world. I do feel a bit funny to think that my avionics need a subscription, even though in the grander scheme of costs to own and operate a plane it is nothing.
Very interesting. There are pros and cons to this of course, but I hope this puts downward pricing pressure on Garmin.
@blastisocco
2 жыл бұрын
Nah I don’t think so this is cheap, but compared to Garmin it’s kinda Trash
This is revolutionary. The ability to have full glass panel at a price that is not completely cost prohibitive.
@EJWash57
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. It's NOT what you think it is. It's a way to repeat/display what is already installed.
Thanks mike because of you we will be looking into guardian to give us this glass panel we desire in the 150
Sooo... It's a way to redisplay flight info piped into it from Garmin flight displays, and includes a few other REALLY nice features. This presentation is painfully lacking, but I'm sure after playing with it in person with the rep, things would gel.
Thats really cool! Thanks for covering this, Mike.
I parachuted into the channel and already signed up hug from Brazil
This is a positive. As iPads/iPhones get more powerful you get to slipstream on that price/performance vs being locked in perpetuity to clunky interfaces that don’t improve or integrate new tech/capabilities. Nice.
Seems like a really good idea to get a full glass ifr panel for a reasonable price
Scenerio #1: Hey SIRI, what the heck just happened to my Avionics?! “Hmm, give me a moment. 🌀 This is the information I found: first, your subscription has expired and second, your charging connection has apparently” ⭕️ Scenerio #2: Hey SIRI… “How may I help you? Answers your iPad 1, iPad 2, panel mounted iPhone, iPhone in your pocket and your Apple watch, creating a cascading SIRI communications echo of chaos! Imagine if you had actually asked a question?! 😂🤣😂
@suzukirider9030
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd pick steam-gauges and a handhelp iPad over that shit. Might ditch the latter once I familiarize with working the ol' G530 enough to not need the iPad at all.
Great info Mike! Thanks, as always!
How does the iPad screen look in the sunlight compared to the Garmin?
@tylerwright497
2 жыл бұрын
Ipads suck in the sunlight if i had a plane i'd rather buy a garmin you wont be able to read anything in the sun
@marcelguimaraes
2 жыл бұрын
If you can’t see the iPad in the sun, just change to your iPhone, it has better visibility and you can bring closer to your eyes
@tylerwright497
2 жыл бұрын
Marcel Guimaraes iphones suck in sunlight too😂😂
@marcelguimaraes
2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerwright497 I know 😂😂😂😂
@marcelguimaraes
2 жыл бұрын
Just tryna be optimistic hahaha
Does this system work with dynon? If not can you recommend a system that does?
Will this work if the IPads are just in the cockpit, but not on the dashoard?
VERY NICE BRO!
and over time, cockpit accidents will happen, I'm sure you'll be happier replacing a badly scratched or even smashed iPad screen than a Garmin screen....I guess the main con would be sunlight in the wrong position....but you'll still have the G5 and also, it won't be a problem most of the time
This is very interesting. I can buy a 172 and change everything
TY. Some of that equipment leading to future single pilot operation of large aircraft.
@raviarjuna9839
2 жыл бұрын
Which mean 1/2 of the pilots will lose their jobs.
@ehsanmikaeili9315
2 жыл бұрын
Where are you know?
@EJWash57
2 жыл бұрын
Er... no.
Nice!
So when apple does a software update, they have to get recertified by the FAA.
$20,000 in parts or installed?
Amazing Mike thanks 🙏
I'll probably get used to a 6-pack and a G530 before I start considering dropping 5-digits on a glass panel which... gives what advantage exactly? Well, synthetic terrain is good when in IFR, I guess.
Almost to the level of pushing a few buttons and letting the computer fly the plane. Advanced auto-pilot. 😁
In the future when all systems tied together on same network , just point and click to take your flight. No experience necessary.
What about Dynon SkyView??
@mojogrip
2 жыл бұрын
Good deck but more expensive
Cheap to start but one should keep in mind the future conversion costs to real toys in the case of dislike.
Interesting equipment, but the presentation could have been much better.
@EJWash57
2 жыл бұрын
I came away from this video not knowing what was being presented. I went to their website, which made things a bit more clear - but NOT crystal clear. The best I can tell is that they offer Garmin display repeaters, with a few other options.
So is this a reason to go with the iPhone “pro max” size?
Just don’t rush to the airport and forget your iPad at home 🤦♂️
@naijapilotxmax6006
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!
Okay what's he lying about! lol he's got a pulse of 102 while telling you the features
@aaronbrown6266
2 жыл бұрын
The guy is basically on the doorstep of cardiac arrest. Just look at him.
hmmm, meh, using a tablet can be ok for some augmentation since GA avionics is so far behind but trying to make it a permanent installation seems like a dead end. Better to build proper avionics and beat stagnant overpriced garmin and others. Start with 20 inch touch, clear synthetic vision, no effing compass rose or tape clutter. this is not 1925. Look at MSFS to see how good synthetic vision can look. Doesn't have to be that good but just a little bit better than the first flight sim. This is 2021, not 1990. Things have progressed.
@DanFrederiksen
2 жыл бұрын
just look at all that junk on the backside of the panel. smh
@atent5124
2 жыл бұрын
That junk keeps the panel reliable. That ipad and its app is crashing before you leave the hanger
Nothing new here. iPads build in the panel with a datalink to the Garmins. Thats all folks. Can never be certified, ever. But great nonetheless. And not cheap either.
@Kainhand10
2 жыл бұрын
They are certified tho. According to the video.
@nateb19
2 жыл бұрын
Already certified.
@loganb6286
2 жыл бұрын
Cheapest option there is and certified are you high or is this just bait