Nolan literally told Mark the Viltrumite plan last season. The plan was never eradication. Granted he was beating the crap out of Mark at the time, but he was honest...

@silentassason

Ай бұрын

True, tho that was a while ago since they saw it, and in fairness, a lot was happening while he was saying it 😂

@jessewest5456

Ай бұрын

Well, kind of. The plan is colonization, and if they resist, eradication. Remember the Unopans?

@GustavoCardoso95

Ай бұрын

One thing that didn't make sense for me is why would Nolan let Invincible fight Allen that time, knowing full well that Allen is from the coalition of planets and could expose the whole truth to invincible about the viltrumites... Also strange that Allen didn't even mention the viltrumites while explaining to invincible about his job

@Mister_Jay_Tee

Ай бұрын

Nolan didn't know anything about Allen and they never talked.​@@GustavoCardoso95

@danflad6077

Ай бұрын

He didn’t know Allen was from the coalition. If he knew that already then Allen would have known he was at the wrong planet

To be fair, in the comic book they did the same thing about how they make comics and how they cut corners etc. So it's not just them explaining how they make animation and why it took time, it's a reference to a double spread of the comic book that did the same

@fredwin

Ай бұрын

I know a lot of meta stuff can be cheesy, this came off as pretty genuine and interesting to me though.

@johndarcangelo6893

Ай бұрын

An extra layer of meta

@ricchapin723

Ай бұрын

Don't you think that's kind of lazy?

@KrypticT

Ай бұрын

@@ricchapin723only reason i dont think its lazy is cause of the sheer amount of time and energy it takes to draw then aminate and it already has taken them forever to put out seasons. so if they cut a total of 30-45 minutes of animation in a season i see that as a small price to pay for perfection.

@danielawesome36

29 күн бұрын

​@@ricchapin723 It's not lazy, they're making the best of the limited amount of time that Amazon gave them.

I forget what episode but Allen mentioned Viltrumites are weird about killing their own kind nowadays. Since their purge. And yeah their goal was never destroy Earth, they're an empire, they want to rule. That's what Nolan was there for, to ready Earth for them.

@silentassason

Ай бұрын

Was last episode I think

@darienford860

Ай бұрын

You do know they conquered planets by basically destroying them. They dont believe in killing their own kind anymore because theyre going extinct, thats why Anissa didnt kill Mark

@zimvader25

Ай бұрын

@@darienford860thanks for the spoiler champ. Youre so badass for googling the wiki. I wouldn’t know how to do that. When I grow up i want to be just like you.

@Enter_Zoneless

Ай бұрын

@@darienford860brooo ffs

@Deined

Ай бұрын

​@@darienford860See, comments like yours that casually spoil are part of the reason the intelligence of the average KZread commentor has a bad rep.

The breakup with Amber is part of Mark learning that he can't live a normal life.

"Have you ever woken up during surgery?" This is how you turn a boring 1st date into an interesting 1st date. ;)

@andreasschlosser6033

Ай бұрын

She definitely didn’t tho. Her facial expressions told the real truth

23:41 While on a meta angle we KNOW why Amber feels different in season 2. Huge backlash to her in season 1 so the writers had to go back on whatever direction they had for her to appease the fans. But on a development angle, it is still possible for people to reflect on themselves and try to change for the better from what they were previously. And this time Amber DID try her best to be better in the relationship.

@tgxm401

Ай бұрын

i think the backlash as far as im aware was because how different she acted from the comics though

@shaynewaugh2111

Ай бұрын

I don't think people would have hated Amber as much in the first season if she hadn't figured out Mark's double identity before chewing him out. That was poorly handled and would have played better if she was actually caught off guard by his reveal

So, you guys DIDN'T notice Allen smiling at her BEFORE she "KO'd" him. OF COURSE he LET her hit him. lol.

@fredwin

Ай бұрын

The dude's a wise ass though, he's always smiling, heh.

@patrickcromwell7554

Ай бұрын

@@fredwin Well yes, but he doesn't smile like THAT against a Vitrumite. This wasn't a typical smart ass smile is was a completely confident "you can't hurt me." he wasn't so much being a smart ass as mocking her. that is 100% obvious.

Now that Anissa is in the show get ready is all I can say

@JaneDark94

Ай бұрын

This will take a while until it happens. Probably season 4 or 5

i also wondered why they even kept mark and nolan alive, but when nolan explained where he really came from in season 1 he said they were spread thin taking over planets and thats why only nolan came to earth so they probably want as many viltrumites as possible, also supremacy and all that so they probably dont like killing their own

@rileytruax766

Ай бұрын

nolan is set for execution viltrimites want him at his full strength when they do it

@silentassason

Ай бұрын

We also don't know about their breeding and population status so it's possible they don't have a gigantic amount of people left in their society across the universe. Plus the less population of Viltrumites the less people they have to hold their territories

@rileytruax766

Ай бұрын

and mark is alive to fill his position like you said there forces are spread thin

@b1gs3xy17

Ай бұрын

​@rileytruax766 Notice how Kregg keeps delaying the execution by kicking his ass? Even Allen said "Viltrumites are weird about killing their own people these days"

@jessewest5456

Ай бұрын

There's two reasons why they keep them alive, for one because viltrumite tradition says you can't execute a prisoner until they're at full strength. Since neither of them are gonna go down without a fight, they would have to spend time healing before they're eligible for execution (this is whats happening to nolan now). The other reason is like you said, the viltrumites population is spread thin. The comics go more into depth about why this is, it will probably be addressed in the show during season 3 or 4

Don't worry. You'll find out later why the Viltrumites wanna take over Earth. Until just keep enjoying the ride. Also that speech from the comic con scene is just a one to one from the comic. They explain there though how the comic is made every week. It wasn't a jab at anyone, but the artists themselves having fun.

@Enter_Zoneless

Ай бұрын

Yeah lowkey these girls missed a lot of the points in this ep ngl

Third Despite their brutality, the Viltrumites don’t want millions of human casualties. What’s the point of ruling a world if everyone is dead? They want Mark to win over the humans to make the transition smooth.

@campbell91988

Ай бұрын

Yeah. It's not even really a matter of not wanting to kill people, they really don't care either way about the humans themselves. It's pure monstrously ruthless practicality. If they have to crush the humans then they will need to spend time, resources, and people rebuilding the planet before they get anything from it. If Mark gets humanity to surrender with minimal losses then they can go pretty much right to exploiting the planet and population.

@MrJethroha

Ай бұрын

You say that, but in the alternate dimensions we see it looks like there are millions of casualties anyways. There is at least constant, worldwide unrest which Nolan and Mark violently suppress. It seems a far cry from a peaceful annexation.

@Etticos.

Ай бұрын

@@MrJethroha like I said, they are brutal. They don’t want to lose human lives, but they are willing to use excessive force to subjugate the population into obedience through fear. There’s a reason behind it that is later revealed.

@Regu269

Ай бұрын

​@@MrJethrohayeah that's kinda the point. They're insane alien fascists. They just want a universe full of loyal slaves

@Im.Smaher

Ай бұрын

⁠@@MrJethroha​​⁠That’s because people always fight back. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s not in the Viltrumites interests to kill millions of humans first option.

Anissa's voice actress is also Becka Butcher from The Boys. She's Ryan's Mother.

@Inferno-rq5cd

Ай бұрын

its all in circle☠️

Waking up during surgery is one of my top fears.

@MapleDivine

Ай бұрын

Honestly not as bad as it sounds if that helps!!! Also my doctors were so nice they ended up putting me back to sleep because I kept asking them to turn up the music while they were literally breaking my foot that’s how little I cared 😭😂🤣

@manuelluke7715

Ай бұрын

​@@MapleDivineyea but imagine this shouldn't happen and your life is in danger because of it

how are they always so clueless about everything, feels like we not even watching the same show

That would be the Behemoth Class Kaiju you asked about Maple. THAT'S where it came from. lol

Remember back in episode 4 on Thraxia Genreal Kreeg had assigned Mark to take over the earth after taking Nolan away.

The meta reference to animation taking forever was actually from the comics.

12:53 No, Maple. Donald’s “consciousness” wasn’t placed inside a robot computer/brain. Cecil told him that Nolan’s body shielded him somewhat from the blast and his brain was intact. His brain was then transplanted into a robot body hence making Donald a cyborg. And the brain is where your consciousness “lives”.

Okay, here's the thing though girls. First, you are ignoring the fact that the Viltrumites don't just kill at random. Despite the massive massacres they commit, it was never just random. Nor do they just kill other Vilytrumites all willy nilly; even Allen said do to Mark. Second just killing Mark is like assuming that Earth is the ONLY thing they have going on; and that they can just send anyone sown to Earth at ANY time. Viltrumites are expanding their empire even AS this fight is happening and there aren't Multi millions of them. They've purged themselves leaving only the strong. And when you are a Viltrumite 10 is equal to millions of other species. In some cases ONE Vlitrumite is superior to an entire species of billions. Remember what Nolan did to those lizard aliens that age faster?? He was ONE and he genocided their entire race. In that context I'd guess-timate that there might be barely a few thousand Viltrumites in total Finally Thragg - the Viltrumite that told Mark that conquering earth was now HIS responsibility - would rather make Mark watch billions of humans die and finally be so demoralized that he gives up and surrenders instead of killing him. Viltrumites are a race of Dominants, not mindless murderers. Killing ALWAYS has a purpose.

I think they’re going too deep into the Mark and Amber breakup. While they’re right about Amber’s perspective, the breakup, specifically how it went down, was meant to show Mark beginning the process of understanding he won’t be able to juggle his two lives like he thought he would. You add in what happens in the season finale… it becomes clear Mark has to truly embrace being Invincible so he can prepare for what’s coming. (You’ll learn in S3.)

Forget why people still take vacations in this world where cataclysmic events happen every week, my question is how in the hell did humanity even *survive* to *this* point, if there's literally 50 foot monsters running around.

@kingcaesar3693

Ай бұрын

Super heroes. They can't show it, but in the comic they are a ton: Spawn, The Darkness, Witchblade, Savage Dragon, Ect. Which all make appearences from time to time.

@lucasbroome1048

Ай бұрын

Remember when people thought the Flaxxans killing 338 people was a massive number?

@NevTheDeranged

Ай бұрын

Same way we survived everything else- we breed like rats.

The explanation thing was also a dorect reference to the comics, a very very similar scene plays out there discussing comics instead of shows

There's a good reason for the Viltrumites not just capturing/killing mark, should be revealed in season 3

This was a comic book series that lasted 15 years and over 140 issues (2003-2018). It’s a LOT of material to cover. There’s always going to be some pacing problems when trying to translate it to other media, especially television. Thankfully it’s a complete series. Another thing is Robert Kirkman likes to go back and make changes to some story ideas because he’s in a different place than when he originally wrote the comics. He did similar things with The Walking Dead, which had terrible pacing issues on/off.

Eve: I volunteer as Girlfriend

I went to the movies alone just last week, and I'm going dancing by myself tomorrow. It's not "dating myself," though. It's just being socially independent or self-sufficient. Dating inherently involves another person and romantic/sexual intentions.

How is that a question the cruises would charge extra because theres a chance their route would let you see Godzilla, and people would pay it too

Anissa doesn’t fuck around…. And now neither does Allen

@coachred6872

Ай бұрын

In other ways she does

@GreenLantern141

Ай бұрын

@@coachred6872 yeah but we haven’t got there yet lol. She’s a wild one

@thebecksbeerboy583

Ай бұрын

"A wild one" is a serious downplaying for a sexual predator and r@pist

@sensaiuriah5440

Ай бұрын

​@@GreenLantern141 I likes yah ... And I wants yah 😂

@huzzich

Ай бұрын

​@@coachred6872💀

8:20 I was fully awake for my wisdom teef removal and that shit was defo traumatizing ☠️☠️☠️☠️

There is a REAL reason why the Viltrumites want Earth and why they need Mark.

21:53 Good question. There’s an answer, and it’s a good one.

I woke up during a surgery when I was nine. Scared the hell outta me. Had a few nightmares about it for years after. Now it's more of a funny anecdote

You people can’t take a joke your the only reactors who didn’t enjoy the animation joke or like it.

@bobbyclarkston8836

Ай бұрын

I was gonna say the same thing. And what’s more: it’s a joke straight out of the comic except they did it about … comics. HA!

@ 16:18 - calls her hot, me over here having read the series going: oh no . . . if you know, you know.

@alejandroreyna2634

Ай бұрын

Based Maple

Feels pointless to comment because they’ve probably heard everything from another source (Patreon) and because others here have already said it, but for those who don’t know: 1) The “animation” bit is not just to educated viewers about how hard it is to make a show. It is a meta joke because of the animation reference as well as because in the comics, there is medium appropriate version of that joke. Ex. Repeating panels for dramatic effect even though it’s just an easy way to fill pages. (It’s funnier when you see it for yourself) 2) A lot of the questions these two have towards the Viltrumites’ philosophy/logic in the conquering of Mark and Earth is eventually explained and it’s supposed to be a slight twist. Spoilers***** There are not as many high level Viltrum soldiers as we’ve been expected to believe there are. I’m talking powerhouses like the ones we’ve seen so far (Nolan, Anissa, Kregg, Lucan, etc.). So the reason they don’t kill Mark is because he is a rare and valuable asset to them, especially after gauging his strength and seeing he has the same potential as his father. This is why they have a problem with Nolan having “inferior” children with incompatible species, because the DNA difference is too big for the Viltrum blood to overpower for the level of soldiers they want. This whole situation is also why they’re so weird about killing other Viltrumites now, whereas in the past they were not so much.

She couldn't kill mark because their are literally only 50 viltrumites left. That's their secret. Conquest doesn't give a flying shi tho

7:54 this conversation did drop that if she stopped transforming she would actually age normally which i think is so cool

@wavehellhole

Ай бұрын

That’s been known since like the first episode

@nickb5371

Ай бұрын

@wavehellhole I liked the in context reminder the show gave us in this episode regardless

POTENTIAL SPOILERS IN COMMENTS BE WARNED

Nolan made it very clear their goal is to conquer. If they just wanted them did Nolan would've just wrecked the planet and moved on

Yall have never prolonged a doom relationship before ?

i hope they remember this 5:13 moment down the road.

Lmao I love how deep they went into Nolan’s relationship at the end

Dang Arianna, I know the feeling!!!!! I actually got a job inside Phoenix Comic Con in order to meet the White Ranger, Jason David Frank. And the day I had the chance to meet him was the day a guy tried to kill him. Didnt get a chance next day or so and now ill never get the chance. 😢 RIP

Also back when Nolan and Debbie were dating Nolan actually was invincible, and presumably won all his fights with ease

17:59 fr id never get on the water 😂😂

21:50 you'll get that answer in season 3

5:16 “PARKER PARKER I need a photographer”

She makes a good point. It snt hard to stop the power hungry fools from destroying parts of the world

@rileytruax766

Ай бұрын

it is for mark how do you stop them without killing them

So does the relationship between Mark and Amber indeed demonstrate that Opposites don't Attract? Or are we still Gung Ho about Opposites attracting? 🙂

i assume they want mark to relent and agree to be their man on the ground on behalf of the empire with the impression that earth will be more likely to submit if a human/viltrum hybrid is the campaign leader

ahhhh so it finally begins poor lil Marky

thank god they didn't stick to the comics in this episode.

The Fergie reference had me geeking 😂😂🤣

Can’t wait for y’all to keep reaction just found y’all like three days ago I’ve only watched the invincible so far but y’all are great and y’all funny lol keep it up

24:12 'Worlds slowest break up' Yep, 7 episodes of this was way too long. If they did the comics version of Amber, she would be even more disliked.

Maple is on track to a good line of questioning. I mean if you choose to take out all of the superhero/extraterrestrial/ sci-fi elements out, it’s a pretty simple problem that most closed societies with delusions of racial superiority tend to run into after a few dozen generations or so. Nuff said.

There is a good reason why the Viltrumites are targeting Earth and why they haven't killed Mark yet.

Oh the whole mark and levy throw down will have you going nuts I think

“Yes mommy” same Maple…same

pls volume up!

21:28 its not Yes Mommy its Yes Mami (if you know the reference)

2:27 what does "too meta for me right now" even mean? ... when that's the point, i guess you are not a fan of the Scream franchise then?

"you need to be training and you are not" so all the villians hes been fighting isnt training? also hes been dealing with non stop bullshit he literally never gets break so when do you expect him to do this training

@NevTheDeranged

Ай бұрын

In the comics, the GDA puts together a cool electromagnetic weightlifting setup for him to train with but idk if they'll show it in the show.

@rileytruax766

Ай бұрын

@@NevTheDeranged thats cool id like to see that

They need mark cos their forces are thin. Thousands of planets require a lot of manpower

They're are reason they don't. You'll find out later. Or sooner if u really think about y

16:02 RIGHT?!?

20:51 😂😂😂😂

Wo I actually had a crush on Amy Jo Johnson.

It's crazy how familiar you look "maple" I swear I've seen u in susanville

@NevTheDeranged

Ай бұрын

Kinda of a stalkery thing to say, friendo.

"The world's longest breakup." -- Based on my own experience, I completely disagree.

Amber's smart. Sha asked how Anissa found them and I can't figure it out. Doesn't Cecil usually see the aliens flying into Earth's atmosphere? Is she just that fast?

@NevTheDeranged

Ай бұрын

That's.... actually a great question, since they always know when Alan is coming.

Amber's choice of words is strange. "Ditch me at the con"?? I mean she's WITH Mark now right?? It doesn't matter how much they hate it; but when a girlfriend or wife KNOWS about the superhero thing and CHOOSE to stay the girlfriend or wife, they DO NOT get to try and guilt their partner or act like they're being neglected. You don't like sharing the hero?? then LEAVE. Don't stay with them and act entitled. Forcing them to feel guilty WILL create resentment.

I found you guys through Invincible, but I’ve quietly also been watching some of your other reactions. I vibe with you both so much. Dating yourself isn’t something I’ve ever thought about, but I love that idea and I think I know some people that could probably benefit from doing something like that. Hope you have a great week!

y'all need to get in the habit of recapping after a break if you're going to forget this much between episodes.

U will find out y they need mark

Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Invincible!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊

Respect to ariana for the pink ranger love

Yes they would because Godzilla doesn't CARE about attacking cruise ships. It doesn't just randomly attack for shits and giggles, you know. Godzilla is actually Earth's defender. It defends the planet; not the human that are barely a blink on the planet's life span. This Kaiju was likely minding it's business when the cruise ship came upon it's territory. When you think about 98% of all these Kaiju monster movies that's really all there is to it. WE (humanity) actually disturb THEM. Of course there ARE exceptions, such as Pacific Rim but generally WE are the ones messing with their territory for our own entitled and arrogant reasons.

ty for 999 liked behind me :D

Humans are terrible about risk assessment. I'm pretty sure that the cruise passengers just assume some superhero will come along to save them if something goes wrong. Which is kind of what happened.

I wanna say that the post episode discussion for this video was excellent. Really funand insightful to listen to. Look forward to the next epizode!!!

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These 2 are getting obnoxious and so slow on certain shows

For the love of God, do NOT look at the comments; there'll probably be spoilers from the comics. I don't know what's wrong with everyone, but people just can't seem to help themselves.

"Just kill him , why u need hi" Do i tell them...

Feels like you guys are watching the show just to pick it apart rather than trying to enjoy it 😐

@milky9618

Ай бұрын

They’re literally reacting. You can’t just sit there silently watching for content

"I would never be able to eat spaggetti again" -Maple

First

Aw, y'all cut out Bulletproof's rundown of his fellow Guardians for the KZread version of this reaction. It was one of the best parts of the episode. 😢 Also, it's pretty ironic that the writers seemed to choose what's probably gonna be Amber's final episode as a relevant character to bring back the snark she had in Season 1.

Mark is the worst boyfriend

hear me out...

Yall forgot alot of stuff from the old episodes

They don't kill Mark because the reason killing Viltrimites is taboo because now there are only 60 of them and they see Mark as worthy to live and as basically a child that they think they can mold and with eternal lives they have patience

@cassandrasmith5231

Ай бұрын

Spoilers!

@asapcasm7947

Ай бұрын

the hell is wrong with you?

First