The load times are abysmal because the game updates the pizza/CD animation between loading very small amount of data. In windowed mode this does not happen. There is a patch in the Rock Raiders United forum to fix the issue.

@dufferzzzzz

4 жыл бұрын

fascinating. thankyou

@ww-uq8ls

4 жыл бұрын

So you mean to tell me the loading screen is what causes the longer loading time?

@rawr51919

4 жыл бұрын

@@ww-uq8ls Essentially yes

@RisingRevengeance

4 жыл бұрын

It's a pretty damn good loading screen though I think I'd rather play the game

@Laenthor

4 жыл бұрын

This is why most Unreal engine 1 games also don't have moving loading screens. Unless it's a gif, which wasn't really used in videogames at the time, then it could've worked, but this takes too much resources. They should've at least put all the sprites in ram and make them alternate.

Druaga1 is turning into a Lego game music channel and I couldn't be happier.

@bsdims

4 жыл бұрын

I just find em interesting

FYI, the plugin author for Winamp actually used DirectMusic, and used a fake DirectSound output device object to export PCM from DirectMusic, which only worked in real-time, and not any other reasonable speed. The author, Peter Pawlowski, is also the author of the Winamp MIDI plugin, and currently the author of foobar2000. I inherited a bunch of his old source code, but only for the MIDI plugin, not the DirectMusic one, and I basically only used it to document all the obscure MIDI-like formats he supported in in_midi. Sorry I didn't have any extra information useful to your search.

@The_Mister_E

4 жыл бұрын

hi kode

8:00 that icon depicts a MIDI socket, the 5-pin DIN connector used to connect nearly all MIDI keyboards and synthesizers.

The LithTech game engine also extensively uses DirectMusic, although most later games on that engine actually use waveform music. Many of them will have an SGT file and a bunch of WAV or MP3 files in a folder, with a simple text file that tells LTDM (LithTech DirectMusic, I assume) how to use the files together. There are "intensity levels" that the game uses to pick which part of the song to use for different events in the game. If you're just walking around, it uses one intensity. If you come near enemies, it'll use a different level, and if those enemies notice you, it uses the highest level. It's very interesting. It reminds me of LucasArts iMUSE except a little bit more crude and simple. Tron 2.0 is my favorite example. Its soundtrack was composed by Nathan Grigg, (the same man who composed ONESTOP.MID, believe it or not) and it sounds very much like the 1980s movie's score while still being an original piece of video game composition. It's also very dynamic, even by LithTech standards, and I love it for that. Tron 2.0 is an excellent example of unique early 2000s FPS gameplay and if you haven't played it yet, I highly recommend it. :)

To open a dls file in FL Studio, there’s a little folder icon on the top of Fruity LSD. It will allow you to load the dls file from there. I recommend importing the midi first, as that will open Fruity LSD by default. Hopefully that will make things a bit easier!

@arpy4428

4 жыл бұрын

Eyy, Fruity LSD ftw! Gotta love those old Roland soundfonts.

@user-lt2rw5nr9s

4 жыл бұрын

Can we all just question why Fruity LSD is an effect when it's so clearly supposed to be an instrument.

@arpy4428

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-lt2rw5nr9s the mount on the FX side is just a hub to host the emulation of the corresponding midi channels. That's why you use a "midi out" for the instrument/vst.

@larcane9509

3 жыл бұрын

hmmm . i've always looked at fruity LSD in my plugin list and never gave it much thought .

Dave Didn't have to convert the dls File at all. The Midi Sampler (Fruity LSD i think) can load dls files directly

I actually really like these types of videos, they are hella interesting omg. :)

Honestly I love these kinds of videos, please keep it up!

@It-sJay

4 жыл бұрын

How did I find you here?

Druaga is on his way to becoming a high quality ripper. Now he just needs to change a few of the notes to the Flintstones theme song. Nintendo DS music is one of the easiest sound formats to "rip" because it basically just uses sf2 and midi files, which is essentially what Lego Island 2 uses, with the directmusic specific tweaks you covered.

Druaga's videos make me dribble

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

Ey, DoomGuy Pictures. Auf on your trails, ey see.

I don't understand why you had gone the manual way about importing and mapping the samples. FL Studio's Directmusic plugin imports DLS sets directly. So does OpenMPT, though OpenMPT makes a very bad MIDI tool, trackers aren't meant to be MIDI sequencers after all. With that out of the way, the only problem left to solve would be to import the sequences, which normally aren't compatible with anything but the DirectMusic Producer itself. Heaps of potential time and labour save...

@bbtund81

Жыл бұрын

But OpenMPT is good if you want to keep music files small for games.

LMMS Would've been a good choice for this project; After converting the dls to sf2, you set that as the default soundfont, and theoretically upon importing the MIDI, everything is mapped optimally and all that's left is to mix & export. Very nice video though, oldschool MIDI/digital music production is really, really fascinating.

These are honestly my favorite types of videos from you. Keep it up

Every year I gotta watch these investigation videos at least once

Hey, I suggest you load the midi into FL studio. It will automatically create a fruity LSD instance on mixer channel 1. You can press the file icon in LSD to browse for the song's .dls file, and see how it sounds. It might just work exactly how you want it to work, if you're lucky!

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

Oh, my gosh. X3 Too easy.

Thank you for doing these videos. I really enjoy them. Your channel is one of the main reasons why I still use this website.

Thanks now i can make my own High Quality Rips

The MIDI export button logo is a MIDI Connector, which isn't too helpful of an indicator. I wonder if the software supports MIDI keyboards.

I did not understand a single solitary word you said. And the video walk-thorough makes it even harder. And yet this is so fascinating, I'm hooked to your videos. Please never stop.

Okay, Dave had it easy. But this is the video we all ended up watching... Can we appreciate it?

I'm in hospital right now and have limited phone data but your Lego Island 2 soundtrack obsession is the best thing ever!

This is beyond serendipitous. I was talking to my buddies about this game only a few hours before this video was posted. This was the only Lego game I ever played and I only would crash into stuff and skateboard on some half pipe somewhere.

WOO! The base jump music is still on my playlist, all those years later.

Now this is dedication to perfection. Very cool!

I remember messing around with DirectMusic Producer years ago with the music from LEGO Island 2 and Midtown Madness 2.

You just made 2019 complete. I don't know how 2020 will top this

I crave Lego island vids! Thank you so much!

I'm absolutely loving these dude.

So what I've done in the past with this is 1.) Load the DLS file into Fruity LSD. 2.) Load the exported MIDI into FL Studio. 3.) Tweak if it sounds off There's a program called VGMTrans that makes these DLS/MIDI combinations for various consoles, it's really fascinating stuff

I remember we played this in the club and used windows xp

I first learned about DirectMusic when investigating the music from Empire Earth. It uses the dynamic music feature extremely well to switch the currently running music between "calm, peaceful/danger/battle"

loving the technical music breakdown vids

Another great game using DirectMusic is Drakan: Order of the Flame

Druaga you always have the solution to the problems i never had. Thanks

Glad to see your community growing

YESSSSSSSS! THE PARACHUTE TRAINING MUSIC, HOLY CRAP! -Thanks, Dave-

How do your remastered files compare to a wave export?

The Button for MIDI export is actually how a MIDI-cable socket looks.

I remember being so goddamn excited getting LI2 as a Christmas present back in 2005-8ish

Truly striving for the highest quality rips

Thanks for sharing!!.. what a journey

OMFG DRAUGA I USED TO WATCH YOU SO MUCH I DIDN'T KNOW YOU STILL MADE VIDEOS

I remember never being able to beat LEGO Island 2 because for some reason the fog was turned on.. and I was too young to even know what settings meant, tryed it again some time later and found out you could turn the fog off The part I got stuck at was the one where you have to shoot the cannons in the medieval land

@johnssonsmixed8303

4 жыл бұрын

You're not alone! I did this aswell and shit I couldnt figure out what was wrong. Two years later I did when I first undrestood enligsh

I think the entire trilogy, including Lego Island 2 should get definitive remasters from the community. I know people don't look back at this game too fondly, but I really do believe it deserves a proper reworked version that fixes many problems and captures the spirit of what it could have been without the massive crunch from the Lego company.

@TufteMotorsport

6 ай бұрын

This is the only Lego game rivaling Lego racers in world building, music and atmosphere. I don't get why it isn't looked upon fondly.

@Cyberbrickmaster1986

6 ай бұрын

@@TufteMotorsport Oddly enough, I've noticed the world building music in this game, but not in LEGO Racers. I have however noticed there are multiple alterative music files for each world that play in specific playthroughs.

I thought I wasnt going to get anything out of this video but very nice.

About who is Dave, i probably think is LuigiBlood, because it also has an LI2 Main Theme. on YT, until it talks about using DirectMusic Producer and Audacity IIRC to record and put. imgur.com/a/aVdHOUT

This game is my childhood. All I can say is that peppers pizza makes me dribble :) thanks for this video

This is all a complot! Druaga is doing this secretly because he knows there's a new lego island in the works and he wants to show off to become dev in it.

strange how all these lego games have tons of music, and then there's rock raiders which has just a handful of unique tracks

some versions of FL studio have bugged MP3 export that causes some insturments/vsts/samples to have noticeable latency compared to others. it's likely that "dave" exported the original file in .ogg or .flac or .wav and then converted it to .mp3 using audacity or some other utility.

Nice video, dude!

I think I have spent 4 years playing this game. And we have a mutual fav, Asteroids. I tried making a midi "cover" of it on Flstudio12 but that didnt work out. I love this vid! Did you do it cuz I asked in your last vid?

Didn’t know LEGO island was a thing but it looks like a bomb ass game i would’ve loved to have when I was 7

I remember my brother and I discovering we could change the instruments used in the MIDI files for Sim Ant using Anvil Studio. It kind of messed up some of the songs iirc but it was fun to sort of remix the tracks and hear the change when we booted up the game 😁

(0:53) Wait a gosh darn minu-ette! Druaga... has bandcamp account! With music, even! Well... I think I'm going to have to check this out! :) Signed up for updates and the email list! Woohoo! Love your stuff, man! I'm enjoying the awesome new direction you're going with these videos! Take care, man! :) I had to search for Ian Anderson (damn it! I can't stop thinking of agent Smith from the Matrix... "Misssster Aaaanderrrrsonnnn!" heheheh :P ) and Island 2.0 to find it. Clicking on your name just brings up one other album. Do you have others in your catalog, sir? I would love to check them out! I love finding great music that makes other people scratch their heads because it's not the usual drivel that plays over and over and over again on pop radio stations. It makes me "really cool" in their eyes. All because I play someone else's music! :P Thanks in advance for making me seem super cool, dude! ;)

@CybershamanX

4 жыл бұрын

Figured it out! Bandcamp's layout has always messed with me in the past. I saw your other albums just fine! Thanks again for all of your hard work! :)

Rip the ISO and mount it on an SSD. Then the loading wouldn't be so long :P Any chance we can get the Lego Island 2 soundtrack ported to Unreal? (Or at the very least, the Asteroid song?)

YES, love for OpenMPT! I've been addicted to it as well, since all the way back in 1998! It's the only music software I use, although I'm hoping to dabble in Deflemask soon.

We need a smart, cunning, weedsmoking youtuber that can save us! Druaga1 what are you doing?

I still have DirectMusic Producer installed for playing back Lego Creator: Harry Potter music. There's some good music in that game and it brings back a lot of memories.

I recommend checking out SimCity 2000 for Mac music. It uses CoreAudio in much a similar way, and I haven’t been able to extract them exactly.

Love the vids

I think I'm going to do it with every other track, been using FL for a very long time and Ive always had an affinity for classic tracks like these! Given someone hasn't done it yet, I mean. Ahh, the Lego Island soundtrack brings back so many nostalgic memories :)

It would be interesting to analyze why the load times are so long, then perhaps re-engineer the disc (make a new image, layed out better perhaps) to optimize it?

Fruity LSD can load DLS files natively. Also, the thing with the drums in the Asteroids song - it happens EVERY TIME. No matter how or who's recording the note data it will always hiccup like that. Really not sure why that happens...

stoned stuff and techy stuff im soled i just subed

god i love these

the first hitman uses directmusic

I seem to recall OpenMPT being able to directly import a .dls file. Is that not the case?

@UCILaGtQaYAh3wnkvg4Rxzqg

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it uses some third party library or program called dls-conv

Druaga forgot that you need an SSD?

nice watch, Kalvin 😘

the midi button looks like the end of a midi cable

Apparently the long loading times are because the game prioritizes game rendering over file streaming during loading, resulting in content being loaded in at 1 byte per frame!

i have a handy dandy program called Awave Studio, and yes, i own a payd version. however it doesnt support DirectX music. but it does a really good job at converting dls2sf2

@batteryman2852

4 жыл бұрын

Also just to point out, if you having a Soundblaster with soundfont support, it does support dls. but maybe you already know that

What was cool about LEGO Island 2 was you could walk on the grass.

would be an interesting video on how and why the loading times took bloody long to load.

this was posted on my 13th birthday

Kinda wish I had these games as a kid.

the song gives me huge chemical brothers vibes!

Is there already an sf2 of Lego Island 2 out there? Wouldn't mind expanding my sample library for OpenMPT.

Where can I find these early versions of the music? I looked on his site and can't find anything. Also, do you have a link to that directmusic program?

Someday the guy(s) who developed this audio format will find this video and will leave a super epic comment telling in detail what you have to do to extract the audio directly. Would be even better if they could share the source files for this since nobody uses it anymore.

The RMI format is a combination of MIDI and DLS files. Deprecated of course, but what isn't regarding this stuff.

@hobbified

4 жыл бұрын

Fun facts: RMI is short for RIFF MIDI (this was back in the days of 3-letter extensions). RIFF is the container format better known as "WAV", because most RIFF files ever made have been WAV files. But it's a generic container format that can be used with any kind of audio/video format, like AVI and MP4 and whatever. And in fact... AVI is just a slightly-enhanced RIFF!

Maybe you can reverse engineer DirectMedia/DirectMusic Objects so that all of those fancy DMO effects like Flanger, Chorus, Echo, Gargle and Reverb can be used on any operating system and included in a portable program.

By any chance for those who aren't able to wait around for debunking would it be possible to upload the MIDI files on Media Fire or something? I lost all my files to this game and trying to recreate the MIDI by ear is very irritating

i found a channel that uploaded the lego island 2 soundtrack in 2009,but i cant find anything about saying how he got the tracks could it be that his dave?

If you have the Software demo CD from 2001 do you think you could upload some Catch the Character stuff?

Bro i grew up with Lego Island Xtreme Stunts

Nice watch, I have the same model.

I like to watch your videos when im high

Why did you have to import it into another program and assign the samples? Doesn't DirectMusic Producer use the included samples?

Next step, convert it to sheet music and have it performed by a full philharmonic orchestra!

The program to open the Lego Island 2 tracks only exports MIDI data, and FL studio is capable of opening MIDI data.

Wow, you were really impatient.

so this is the first time ive watched drauga1 in years, what happened to all the weed and ssd's?

there was a LI2? i only knew of (and had played LI1

PEPPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRONI

tfw in fl studio you can put a .DLS file in Fruity LSD and import the midi.

Ehhh, I wish it would be this easy to decompress audio from game that I'm struggling with...

9:28 Well, not really; I never use that dialog box. You can type in the instrument numbers on the right side of that table in there upper section. If you want one sample to play for every note, just enter the sample number for one of those then right-click and choose the option from the menu.