If ppl dont really get Jp accents, english is a stressed language while Japanese is a pitched accent. Stressed languages stress sections of words for eg. ‘tomorrow’, to - MO - rrow. You’re normally supposed to stress the ‘Mo’ in tomorrow. Different accents work by stressing sections in words differently, either stronger in the case of stronger accents and opposite in the case of weaker ones. Japanese doesnt stress different sections of words but changes pitch depending on the section of the word u pronounce, in this clip, they say ノドボトケ or nodobotoke. U saw the pitch u speak the word with in the sub titles but the ‘normal’ Japanese accent is alittle different, alittle bit more flat than the accent Korone speaks with, Korone changes pitch on nearly every character she says whilst Shion speaks with the more universal Japanese accent. Tip for if u want to learn Japanese, learn to speak with a pitched accent rather than a stressed one, it should help pronunciation and annunciation and will definitely make u sound wayy more natural wen speaking. Thats often why u can notice wen a foreigner is speaking Japanese compared to an actual Japanese person, a lot of foreigners speak Japanese with a stressed accent as opposed to a pitched accent where instead of pitching sections of words they stress them and to me, it never sounds natural. Idk why i wrote a paragraph and if u read this than sorry Edit: if you read this than thanks Edit2: oh damn this got pinned?? Edit: damn editing unpins stuff

@kuro9335

3 жыл бұрын

Not the hero we deserved but the one we needed, thank you for this explanation!

@QuesoCucuy

3 жыл бұрын

didnt know that, thank you

@primeEmu16

3 жыл бұрын

No need to apologize it was imteresting to hear.

@LecherousLizard

3 жыл бұрын

First of all when I hear non-Japanese people (especially from English-primary countries) speaking Japanese they can't properly pronounce syllables before even talking about entire words or taking the accent into account. As for the pitch accent itself... honestly, I can't hear it for shit.

@OnlyRusseLLHD

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this I couldn't hear or understand the difference at all

Normal people: "corn beef" Korone: "𝓒𝓸𝓻𝓷 𝓑𝓮𝓮𝓯"

@contrapasta2454

3 жыл бұрын

CONE BEEFU

@sheik124

3 жыл бұрын

Korone's pronunciation actually sounds closer to how an English speaker would say it than Shion's tho.

@chaoticgood8996

3 жыл бұрын

Teach me the ways of the fancy font

@haisai8289

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaoticgood8996 🙃 ɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ ɯoɹɟ ɯᴉ ʞpI lol

@jdcreep5394

3 жыл бұрын

Maisrindfleisch

Korone’s accent is always great

@yaze8850

3 жыл бұрын

A friend shared uno video to me, fell in love with her jp accent immediately xD ROKETO LANCHA WOWOWOWOWOWOW

@nomarukaz

3 жыл бұрын

Always have been

@yaze8850

3 жыл бұрын

Caleb Butler indeed, sentence we can hear xD

@Icetea-2000

3 жыл бұрын

Does anybody know from which region in Japan this accent is from?

@Zeis

3 жыл бұрын

I've noticed before how melodic it sounds when Korone speaks and thought that's just what regular Japanese sounds like. I really, REALLY like it. Interesting to find out that it's her accent. I wonder where that accent comes from... probably the south, right?

I love Korone's voice and accent. It'd be a shame if she were actively trying to "fix" it because people thought it sounded "weird"

@zeriel9148

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I felt the same when she way back when said she wanted to work on it. It sounds so much nicer than the standard pronunciation.

@H36TRemasters

3 жыл бұрын

@@zeriel9148 Unfortunately this is pretty standard in Japan. Especially when folks are trying to search for jobs. Glad she still has her accent though because it's absolutely adorable.

@Red-ib3fb

3 жыл бұрын

@@H36TRemasters "Unfortunately this is pretty standard in Japan." No it's not. It was a conversation, like a standard-speaking challenge game. It's just a HAHA moment that would be nothing to discuss without the clip. Don't create a Japanese standard in your own imagination. sigh

@TheAdmiral14

3 жыл бұрын

@@Red-ib3fb I dunno, Japan is pretty big on conformity. Looking into it a little just now was kind of depressing. People moving to the city from further areas feeling pressure to ditch their regional dialect in order to fit in and schools that have rules forbidding accents and dialects. Do you live in Japan and could shed some light on this?

@Red-ib3fb

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAdmiral14 I dunno, Don't create a Japanese standard in your own imagination. I am Japanese. Living in Japan.

Japan is like Italy: Every single town has its own weird accent

@cleanStr

3 жыл бұрын

U are just lucky if its only accents.. we have freaking differences language in every city.. ofc accents too.. :v

@Hwyadylaw

3 жыл бұрын

More like Japan is like any place that's been inhabited for a long time. (And hasn't had a standard variety forced on people for a long time, or very large migration between areas)

@kaikart123

3 жыл бұрын

@@cleanStr Hello, fellow 700 languages countryman

@Birdy890

3 жыл бұрын

It's like that in England too, Bristol, London, Manchester, Kent, York, they all sound very different.

@cleanStr

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaikart123 :v greetings from wkwk land

One thing I love about Korone is her accent, so wouldn't really call it "weird."

@gamrage

3 жыл бұрын

It's charming.

@XCerykX

3 жыл бұрын

That is because we aren't Japanese and we aren't used to words literally change their meanings based in where you put the emphasis on a sound.

@1yle.

3 жыл бұрын

@@XCerykX not really

@fadhlilkhaliq7173

3 жыл бұрын

@@XCerykX that's more of Chinese, not japanese

@-_-o7741

3 жыл бұрын

@@1yle. Well, it is true for some words like the words for rain and candy. Rain is A👆🏻me, while candy is A👇🏻me. The only difference between their pronunciation is the inotation of the A sound. Sorry I couldn't find the arrow.

Korone doesn't have a weird accent. She's just multi-lingual. She speaks Japanese and Pekora.

@heavenlysteel8337

3 жыл бұрын

*Pekolandish

@user-jp5wh3ex4i

3 жыл бұрын

pardun?

0:40 Don't mind me just saving this one for me, I like her deep voice

@definitelycultured7521

3 жыл бұрын

Im questioning my sexual desire now

@buraikusu

3 жыл бұрын

she sounds so done with life there LMAO

@LecherousLizard

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like she was kind of embarrassed there.

@kurono1822

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I've replayed this part an unhealthy amount of times

@Emil-wt4go

3 жыл бұрын

maybe this is her real voice?

1:48 It's like every syllable is a question.

I love Korone's accent even if it's weird for some people Even when singing, Korone still has the accent XD That makes the singing transcend to god dog level

@KindlyAshe

3 жыл бұрын

her accent while singing is amazing. I've had to go back to watch her sing the one piece opening because it's such a fun accent.

Another big thing about her accent is putting to vowels together in a word. Like when she says Oayo (Ohayo) or Ko'one (Korone)

@7QWERTY13

3 жыл бұрын

That's less to do with her accent and more a speech impediment thing/unique mannerism of hers.

@Miimu5210

3 жыл бұрын

@@7QWERTY13 LOOL speech impediment not sure why that's so funny

@thorn_lekoh

3 жыл бұрын

It's called rhotacism, difficulty to pronounce the R sound. There's a clip of Korone where she says she has trouble with the ra ri ru re ro sounds, that's why when she says her name it outputs as Koone, she just skips the R.

@spooderlover3512

2 жыл бұрын

@@Miimu5210 Probably because you just imagined Korone with Mike Tyson's lisp

I’m here to cut off my yubis for Korone.

@SolidCold233

3 жыл бұрын

WHY HAVEN'T YOU ALREADY?!

@VoidsEclipse

3 жыл бұрын

Yu knw is kida hard t tpe witout my figers.

@Reikha1987

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't have to be YOUR yubis

@followerofthekoronecult

3 жыл бұрын

As a dvout fllower, Ive aredy cut mne of lng tims ago. Im nw tping wih my fet

@VoidsEclipse

3 жыл бұрын

@@followerofthekoronecult I tping wth m nose.

that "are you trolling me" at the end had the same energy as "now listen here you little sh-"

The moment you start learning pitch accent, its like your eyes are opened and suddenly all these vtubers start sounding way weirder because of wacky accents

@saceurai6629

3 жыл бұрын

And also, the accents stick to Japanese veeeery quickly. Dated a girl who grew up in Osaka, and in 2 weeks, j was speaking just like her, even tho I was in Hokkaido.

it just hit me that maybe her accent has a large role in why her english is so understandable. hearing shion speak english, the pronunciation felt all over the place, but all of Korones felt kinda close

0:05 why do I love this so much?

I remember watching this video a long time ago and not being able to tell the difference between their pronunciations, but after a few years of hearing japanese and learning it, I can!

The cutest part of her accent is the 'nyeh' instead of 'ne'

Korone thick Kansai-ben Accent is still the best to hear

@mayuravirus6134

3 жыл бұрын

Kansai-ben is already accent why did you addes another accent in there!?

@ValkyrieTiara

3 жыл бұрын

Are we sure it's kansai-ben? Where did you hear that?

@KillerofGods

3 жыл бұрын

@@mayuravirus6134 it's like the people who say please RSVP. So they basically say "please respond please."

@4473021

3 жыл бұрын

@@ValkyrieTiara nah, she had a video talking about where her accent is from. Not sure where the clip is but it was a mix of her local area's accent plus her grandparents' accent iirc

@riskvideos

3 жыл бұрын

Country doog?

so basically... korone talks in pekora's laugh lol

First thing in the video: “I translate, pls gib money” First sentence in translation: “I remeber” Nice

I'm studying Japanese and I'm having a hard time w accents and I just tried korones accent and I managed but it REALLY messed my brain up

that first nodobotoke sounding like nothing Ive ever heard coming out of korone's mouth

@LecherousLizard

3 жыл бұрын

That one was really out of the left field. It's like all of her usual happiness was drained by trying to pronounce the word correctly.

Japanese teachers be like: "Japanese is a flat language." Me: *Furiously points at this video.*

@certifiedpossum8655

3 жыл бұрын

That's becaue the language us flat, but korone is not

@nyannyan443

3 жыл бұрын

@@certifiedpossum8655 Yea, god doggo is _boing boing._

@yanguYT

3 жыл бұрын

@Koholos yes, the teachers are speaking in wall/floor/pett-

144p for best experience

@Mayhxmmmm

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@elunicko123

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Are some japanese accents really just different intonations?

@oo1234561000

3 жыл бұрын

yes, its kinda like british people have different intonations, americans and southern compared to northern accents or chinese or every language in the world.

@lucasvega4216

3 жыл бұрын

Dialect and accent are not the same, in the video, they are talking about Korone's accent (intonation). Inui Toko for example straight up talk in kansai-ben. Watame is from Kansai too but she talks in kanto dialect with kansai accent, I think the same happens with Ange Katrina.

@XCerykX

3 жыл бұрын

Sort of, but also in Japanese words actually change their meaning depending on where you put the emphasis while speaking. Kami, for instance, means god, paper, and hair and if you say the word wrong you might make someone confused about why you needed your paper cut since they have to mentally be like "Wait, they must mean hair..." So I think that is really why they get on her about talking weird.

@oo1234561000

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasvega4216 well i get what you mean, but i stand my point that every language have different accents at certain spots within the country no matter the country.

@PICTVS

3 жыл бұрын

Ceryk Paper (紙) and hair (髪) actually use the same accent I think. That is odaka with the pitch peaking on the final syllable: /kàmí/. Kami as in god (神) has the pitch peaking on te first syllable: /kámì/. I think the reason why pitch-accent is so confusing to English speakers is because the stress-accent that English has has a lower functional load than the accent in Japanese; meaning that the accent in Japanese is more important for differentiating between otherwise similar sounding words. Probably because Japanese has a lot less phonemic segments (vowels and consonants) than English and therefore a lot more homophones.

Does anyone else actually prefer Korone's accent? To me it just sounds so much more...musical, you know?

I've been looking for this video for months! Thank you for reuploading.

I love the way Korone speaks. I hope she never changes.

@RambleOn07

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine Miko speaking fluent dead Iowa level English :(

@konstiyo

3 жыл бұрын

@@RambleOn07 im studying japanese, and in comparison to the other vtubers mikos japanese is most times still incomprehensible to me.

@RambleOn07

3 жыл бұрын

@@konstiyo lol it sounds like that's a normal reaction. Miko is simply too elite

@konstiyo

3 жыл бұрын

@@RambleOn07 I can only dream of reaching such a elite fluency level.

Korone was born to a father who spoke in the Mie dialect (Kansai) and a mother who spoke in the Miyagi dialect (Tohoku), and her speech was strongly influenced by her maternal grandmother. This may be the reason why there is a debate whether she speaks in the Tohoku or Kansai dialect. (This information was obtained from the Internet and may not be accurate.

I freakin love you for this clip ♥️♥️♥️ My favorite Korone clip by far.

the quality of this video is RiceGum's whole career...

@inot8652

3 жыл бұрын

@MASON !!!! i agree

@flip.flap.

3 жыл бұрын

Who is RiceGum?

@cosplaynatics

3 жыл бұрын

Is it tasty?

@HudaefCares

3 жыл бұрын

@@flip.flap. A failed pseudo-Asian snack product marketed to Westerners. Unfortunately even Westerners know that Rice and Gum don't mix.

Thank you i’ve been looking for this clip for AGES. I remember watching it really early on like in march but i never found it again.

Jesus Christ, i jumped off my seat when korone sneezed on the intro.

Her intonation of "corned beef" is way closer to how you'd say it in English than Pekora's

That’s a blast from the past

@seventus

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It's even in potato quality!

The ones with unique accents are the ones I am usually drawn to

Her accent reminds me of a grand mother talking to her grandchildren

I was looking for this! I saw this clip translated before but it suddenly vanished. Thank you!

This is unironically a fascinating insight into how Japanese kind of works

Them: "Su da Ma sa ki" Me: "Phi li pu"

@vashlexaeussteeele9736

3 жыл бұрын

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE LMAO

"Macudonaldo" is definitely going to be how I refer to that place from now on.

@TheMoonCultist

3 жыл бұрын

The thing with vowels at the end of consonant-ending syllables is because in Japanese there are barely (if any) words that don't end without a vowel, so that makes Japanese speakers add them at the end of any of those words to make them sound properly in their language

Korone: ⭨ ⭧ ⭨ ⭧ ⭨ Pekora: ⭣ ⭡ ⭣ ⭡ ⭧ ⭩ ⭠ ⭧ ⭡ ⭢ B A Select Start

@pite9

3 жыл бұрын

⭡ ⭣ ⭠ ⭢ A Start

Don't change Korone's sing songy way of talking.

6 seconds and you made me smile. Bless you

Thank God this was reuploaded. Wasn't able to find this for months.

@egorxd5783

3 жыл бұрын

lol i found this on bilibili

@haru-n4599

3 жыл бұрын

@@egorxd5783 You're a champ man. Thank you for this 👏👏👏

I start imagining Korone if she speaks English she would have a country accent and that just makes me love her even more.

her accent really makes her more unique

Wait I just searched this and mindlessly click on this I didnt even know this video exist until 50 seconds ago

@ForwardTokage

3 жыл бұрын

I just clicked on it because corn beef got me intrigued

Thanks Egor nice video.

I can’t laugh my grandma is from Osaka so when she taught me Japanese she still spoke in the Kansai-ben so I learned it that way and I still speak like that XD

I love how everyone just knows Korone has a different accent despite not being Japanese. "Ogayuuuu~" "Ho↗️Ra↗️yoooo↘️" "O↘️A↗️Yooo↘️"

2:32 Korone:- Nanko are Ba i desuka Nyeh? Shion:- Nanko are ba ii deSU ka Ne Korone:- Ye bloody wot mate?

I have a theory that Korone grew up in a traditional household in some small Japanese city. Excluding her obvious accent and shy nature, if you watch her 3D videos with Okayu and other members she moves very femininely and has a lot of stamina when it comes to dancing and workouts. I assume her accent is something that comes from her hometown/region and her femininity, introvertedness and endurance indicates she probably had a traditional upbringing, since that is basically textbook ideal Japanese housewive behavior. Furthermore, she stated she graduated from Tokyo University and she has also mentioned she takes boxing classes, so I also assume that she was probably relatively oppressed by her childhood and with hololive and the freedom of being a college student she got the opportunity she wanted to let loose.

@xd3d034997

3 жыл бұрын

She lives with her grandma.

Glad this was reuploaded somewhere, this was just a really good example of Korone's accent and that they actually discuss on it.

Me having a “corporate needs you to spot the difference” moment 😮

@egorxd5783

Жыл бұрын

lol

Hope we get more of this.. Id like to learn Korone-san's accent when i learn Japanese. ❤️

The corn beef part got me. I love korone.

THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE, NOW! I don't speak anything even RESEMBLING fluent Japanese, but I've been subconsciously noticing little differences in how words can be spoken, from person to person. IT'S PITCH! Their accents are PITCHED! Thanks, random KZread video!

Saw this long ago, been looking for it but I think the old clip got taken down. Loved this conversation between these two.

02:09 - 02:15 is my favorite

@Omennnnnnnnnnn

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao 01:48 too

Egor out here making miracles

U really got me for the opening

I remember another video of this clip had been on KZread a long time ago and now has been disappeared

@despair_bear

3 жыл бұрын

This was on an old channel named translate bilibili that was deleted. I think the original video was longer though

Finally, this video is back

Oh god I was right 😂 I never saw people discussing about this so I thought it's just me being dumb. But I like it, it's cute in its own way

so that's why she sounds so fun to listen to

It ain't weird it's perfect just the way we like it

KORONE WITH NO ACCENT FELT SO OUT OF PLACE

0:42 man I love that "nani" mannn i love it so much

That feeling when every mora is 尾高型

YES

nice japanese accent lesson with korone and shion.

@egorxd5783

Жыл бұрын

indeed

Oooh I remember watching this translated clip months ago but I couldn't ever find it again!

When I first saw this I didn't really know pitch accent but now that I do, good god I thought she'd just be placing accent on wrong mora but she's just adding multiple accents per word sometimes and it sounds really funny

I love her accent.

I'm currently learning Japanese and my brain is melting watching this clip

Now I know why i got hooked with Korone. I didn't notice her accent at all but it definitely made her sound charming and charismatic.

When koro-san said nodobotoke, i dont know but it's cute voice

Lol I didnt realize Korone was in the video until she spoke. Perfect tree disguise

1:46 Corn➡️be➡️ef ↘️ that made me lol so hard

I clicked immediately

I love that nuclear sneeze of an intro!

The sneeze intro is great lol Korone is so funny

Korone's just the physical embodiment of uwu.

When Japanese confused at Japanese.

but the japanese teacher told us that all has to be flat !!

When Korone said "Corn Beef" she kinda sounded like a Chinese Or at least Southern Japanese.

Korone’s accent it’s like learning a new type of Japanese I find it cuter

My most favorite Kansai doggo

2:37 That actually felt like she was about to smack Shion lmao

this gave me a gigantic brainblast. my understanding of japanese accents went from 5% to like 40% thanks to this video

I once read something about a "sing-song" accent, and I couldn't imagine what it would sound like. Now, I think I have figured it out. It's got to be like that. The pitch shift.

Whenever someone says pitch accent isn’t important when learning Japanese, send them this video.

@LecherousLizard

3 жыл бұрын

I watched it like 10 times and I still can't tell the difference.

@iGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Mandarin, Taiwanese too haha

@grgspunk

3 жыл бұрын

Pitch accent is not massively critical if we're talking about the Japanese language. It's more of a pronounciation issue--If you're not doing the right pitch, you might have Japanese guys looking at you funny at times, but you'll still be perfectly comprehensible. The Chinese language, on the other hand? You make the wrong pitch on a word, and you'll be unintentionally saying something completely different.

@LecherousLizard

3 жыл бұрын

​@@grgspunk What was that Chinese poem that had only one word in it?

@GongTheHawkeye

3 жыл бұрын

Why? To confirm their suspicion that learning pitch accent is unimportant? It's a video of two vtubers having a fun time streaming together despite one having unique pitch accent, and have no misunderstanding whatsoever. And as you can see, everyone loves Korone's accent.

The outro was legendary cute

Just adds more to her cuteness

might as well enter game combos with how they talk

Korone’s accent gives me life.

Nice

The pitch arrows are the real mvp here.