Introducing the Bastl Midilooper
The Bastl Instruments Midilooper is a device that listens to MIDI messages (control information about notes, dynamics and other parameters) and loops them in a similar way an audio looper would loop pieces of audio. However, loops of MIDI messages remain in the control domain, which means a lot of other processes can happen on top of them - timbre modulation, envelope adjustments etc.
more info at bastl-instrume...
available now at noise.kitchen and through our dealers
Setup 1:
Juno 106 MIDI OUT into MIDI Looper MIDI IN
MIDI Looper MIDI OUT into Juno 106 MIDI IN
SYNC: Modular sends analog clock and reset into MIDI Looper via 3.5mm jacks
Listening to metronome from MIDI Looper
Setup 2:
Keyboard (Reface DX) MIDI OUT into MIDI Looper MIDI IN
MIDI Looper MIDI OUT into 1983 MIDI IN (modular)
1983 receives MIDI on 3 MIDI channels to control 3 modular voices
SYNC: Modular sends analog clock and reset into MIDI Looper via 3.5mm jacks
(Nerdseq sends MIDI to Reface DX MIDI In to control the sound engine, Local control on Reface DX is turned off)
Setup 3:
Roland SPD-SX (drumpads) MIDI OUT into MIDI Looper MIDI IN
MIDI Looper MIDI OUT into Roland SPD-SX (drums) MIDI IN - MIDI Channel 1
MIDI Looper MIDI OUT 2 into Microgranny 2 (glitch) MIDI IN - MIDI Channel 2
SYNC: OP-Z mini jack MIDI OUT (from OP-LAB Module) into MIDI Looper mini jack (MIDI) Clock IN
Listening to metronome from MIDI Looper
OP-Z plays chords and bass
Local control on SPD-SX is turned off
Setup 4:
Moog Sub Phatty MIDI OUT into MIDI Looper MIDI IN
MIDI Looper MIDI OUT into Moog Sub Phatty MIDI IN
MIDI Looper is in Free running mode (no clock needed)
Setup 5:
Keyboard (Reface CP) MIDI OUT into MIDI Looper MIDI IN
MIDI Looper MIDI OUT into Reface CP (e-piano) MIDI IN - MIDI Channel 1
MIDI Looper MIDI OUT 2 into Roland D-05 (pad) MIDI IN - MIDI Channel 2
Roland D-05 MIDI OUT to Make Noise 0-coast (arp) MIDI IN - MIDI Channel 3
SYNC: Roland TR-08 (drummachine) MIDI OUT to mini jack MIDI adaptor to MIDI Looper minijack MIDI Clock IN
Listening to metronome from MIDI Looper
TR-08 trigger out to 0-Coast Gate input
Reface CP Local control OFF
D-05 MIDI Thru ON
-
About Bastl
Bastl Instruments (est. 2013) is an indie company focusing on the development and production of a variety of electronic musical instruments: portable sound boxes, standalone analog synthesizers, granular samplers, studio instruments and utilities, Eurorack modules, and fully featured Eurorack modular synthesizer systems. We are based in Brno, Czech Republic, but our products have gained a worldwide fanbase. The Bastl Instruments gear has received raving reviews, and it has been used by electronic music legends such as Depeche Mode, Nine Inch Nails or Radiohead. We organize all sorts of projects for both local and global communities, such as parties, concerts, DIY workshops, courses, coffee roasting, record label, and even clothing production.
Learn more at bastl-instrume...
-
Follow us
Instagram: / bastlinstruments
Twitter: / bastlinstrument
Facebook: / bastlinstruments
Soundcloud: / bastl-instruments
GitHub: github.com/bas...
Пікірлер: 154
Happy to see my dream come true finally! I played my first show with the first prototype like 3 and half years ago and now it is perfect! Tested it heavily in my livesets and even made a record while testing it. Hope you guys find it as inspiring as much as I do!
Really cool idea, it's like a piece of Ableton Live in hardware. Polyphonic multi-channel MIDI looping is amazing.
Thank you for keeping MIDI alive and still evolving!!!
Take my money!!!!! Definitely prefer this over a laptop for midi looping!
i have been searching all over for something like this.
Big up to Jakub Šindler for the drumming part! He just came and started to loop super naturally! Such talent! - check out the bands he is involed in: - Bert and Friends and Never Sol
@bigmoneysteppa
4 жыл бұрын
Oh the d05.
Hot damn finally! I've used countless loopers, sequences, step sequencers and this just looks too easy to use. Pre-orders are available at Perfect Circuit audio out of Burbank, Cali. Sign up for their email and get a 10% discount as well! Tell them a noodler / tinkerer sent ya! Yes I ordered it from their too!
@satyanpatel6403
4 жыл бұрын
Mine came in today from Perfect Circuit. Read the PDF, setup midi and a tap tempo, and was in bliss heaven. It is so easy to use, that my kids (7 & 11) watched me and they grasped it easily and they too were creating jams easily. This thing is a pandemic blues solver. New life for all my synths.
I’m hitting like just for the guys voice
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
i am flattered ))
Nice one guys!
this looks super useful, and the track at the end was amazing. well done
Dammit - this is/was my current Max project! I ❤️ Bastl - this is a brilliant solution. I love the idea of what I’ll be doing with the micro granny and this capability. Strongly suspect I’ll be ditching software for this now a (completed) solution exists!
Finally the introducin video of this perfect looper
Great idea, and a nice implementation too. 🎶 I hope you sell lots of units. 👍👍🙂
What a voice. You should narrate vampire movies! Great video too. Another midi evolution.
Wow, Bastl is amazing!
This is awesome as hell
thx for this video and all setups
Super cool
Bastl! You made my morning. I've wanted this since Cuckoo showed it off. Thanks for connections breakdown as well. Purchased!
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
nice! epic
This is a really great demo
BRAVO! Very excellent my good dude!
We just released first bug-fix update mainly improving the stability in more varied setups. Props to the early brave users who helped us fix this! bastl-instruments.github.io/midilooper/
Amazing functionality, and is an interesting name, I would recognise this as a sequencer
@spaceranger145
4 жыл бұрын
I thin it would be fair to say this 'midi looper' is a midi sequencer. I like the name though it clearly defines what it can and can't do. Most (not all) midi sequencers allow for programming and editing on a per step basis, also multiple sequences can be chained by to create longer arrangements. This on the other hand just records and plays back midi in real time. It's a bit like the difference between a DAW and a audio looper pedal.
@noobslayerr9732
3 жыл бұрын
Or a midi clock control like an erm is possible?
Great one nice ....
Reminds me of the old Anatek pocket sequencers from 1990 which you can still pick up.
Funny thing about this is that the Ensoniq Mirage has a very rudimentary version of exactly this. I’dnever seen a free form midi looper aside from that
@Ancaja123
4 жыл бұрын
If only there was a way to have the midi loops “fade out” in velocity with a feedback setting like moray audio loopers
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ancaja123 you can adjust velocity of recorded material in 10 steps. this is exactly what it is for. further you can also control velocity via CV
@Ancaja123
4 жыл бұрын
Bastl Instruments wow ok, I should do my research next time. This is amazing!!!!
This just leapt to the top of my shopping list
This one is missing in my alien collection. Hope to get it soon!
so awesome i need 100 of these
another instrument how exciting😮
Awesome!
Very nice!
“Awesome as fuck” indeed it is
Very interested in this. In the last example, is the TR-08 getting clocking from the looper? Also, could this work with the looper getting clocking from the TR-08? Also, in this setup I'm assuming that when using the CP to control the D-05, sounds from the CP are coming out of it also while controlling other synths? I'd like to do a minimal set up like this, but having the looper get time control from a Novation Launchpad pro, so I can kind of chain together up to 7 different pieces... not sure if thats going to work.
This is amazing. One question, if I want to use this to mainly loop my modular, would this be a good match? I see CV inputs but not outputs. I assume at the very least, it would pair well with a cv.ocd or something of that nature. Either way, genius product!
This is awesome! I want one! Will I be able to buy it in France????
can you please change the colour of the three recording buttons to contrast with the box (white for example) ? In a clubbing situation will really hard from the visual aspect (ideally light phosphorescent buttons)
@satyanpatel6403
4 жыл бұрын
Bastl devices are really easy to take apart I have quite a few. Maybe you could just send the buttons down a gentle amount using say 200 grit sand paper and then paint them how you like?
@plutostube
4 жыл бұрын
Satyan Patel yes good idea! Thx :)
Take my money now!!!
Wow!! Loving it! Is there any limitations in terms of the number of voices it can handle per track? Keep it up!
👍👍👍✌👌🏼
Oh I have wanted a MIDI looper/sampler for soooooooooo long and finally here I think. Will it work with a MIDI Thru box? Like can I send the same note info to multiple instruments (and other info)? Also can I use it as a MIDI sampler so I can load it up with MIDI melodies that I can then send to different instruments? I think it's not exactly what I wanted but I will probably still get it.
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
it has 2 identical midi outputs that are buffered so it is in a way very simple midi thru already. to get more outputs you can of course go into a thru box
Do you have to set a specific loop length for each loop..or can they all just "grow" as multiples of the first loop until each is closed and the loop length created?
if i have a midi hub like kenton wouldnt be possible of controling more that 3 instruments since it have 16 midi channels the midi looper?
If one plays MIDI notes unquantized into the looper, does it automatically quantize the notes? Quantized vs unquantized notes change the mood of the track, so I had to ask!
@binarylabs7573
4 жыл бұрын
There is no explicit quantization during recording (recording resolution is defined by the clock source you are using). The playback can be quantized if you enable it
@chilp9759
4 жыл бұрын
@@binarylabs7573 I just realized that all my MIDI controllers can't THRU the main clock source from Logic Pro into the looper. All I have is clockless MIDI Note sources to input MIDI into the looper. Rats...
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
@@chilp9759 not a problem really. you can use the clock input to have another source of midi clock - it is just minijack midi so you will need an adapter if your midi clock source is the big connector
i wonder if the looper will fuction properly with a monophonic synth like the Korg monologue that i own. Any thoughts?
How is the unquantized grid? Microsteps or something like that?
So l can record my keyboard then layer my midi drums on top of it? Also can l input what's playing inside of Pro tools in real time?
Am I right, that it does not record aftertouch?🤔
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
not yet. that is planed for future firmware update
In setup 4, will the looper create it's own clock and be able to output it?
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
yes it actually does
@boimesa8190
4 жыл бұрын
@@bastlinstruments so it calculates it's own BPM based on the loop length?
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
@@boimesa8190 exactly
@boimesa8190
4 жыл бұрын
@@bastlinstruments awesome! Will you be planning to make a software/vst version of this???
Ahoj bastl:) really nice. does it support some sort of A/B scenes or is it possible to achieve by connecting 2 loopers? I find that as the only obstacle of migrating from Ableton based looper
@binarylabs7573
4 жыл бұрын
Please check out 'Patterns' in the manual on the bastl website
will it record parameters that are basic sysex?
I need it now.. Here in Vienna, where I have to go for this and how much.. Thanks Toyota for this nice introduction video..
@sheepkillindog
4 жыл бұрын
It’s under 300 bucks. I beleive
Is there a "lengh" limit or a limited amont of MIDI messages that a track can record with this little beast?
@bastlinstruments
2 жыл бұрын
You are not
What does the Looper do with those old Juno 106 SysEx MIDI messages (non standard), does it store & reply those as well? That would be epic!
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
it does not loop any sysex. I think every synth having different standards makes this virtually impossible to test. I know it would be epic though
@MichaelToop
4 жыл бұрын
@@bastlinstruments still an epic product! One can dream though 😊
How many bars or steps can it loop?kool
Another thing: I am having serious problems with the Midi Looper simply stopping for no good reason. I have ruled out what goes to the input. The stopping also happens with nothing in midi in. And it happens under midi sync as well as internal sync. But there seem to be a variable in what has been recorded. Like, some loops can go on for a day without stopping, while other loops are lucky if they reach five minutes. And loops with more than one track are more likely to stop than if there is only one track. I would love to use it for live performance, but as it is, that would be nerve wrecking. Do I have a faulty unit or what? Thanks.
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
hey. it is unlikely that this would be a hw issue. we would love to hear more about your setup and try to figure out what might be causing the issue. we did not have such issues in our pool of testers, but midi is protocol implemented by wide range of manufacturers. please let us know more about the issue via email so we can process it properly. thank you
@Trk-El-Son
4 жыл бұрын
Bastl Instruments Good to hear from you! I have written to your support email some days ago. (The contact form on your website.)
@Trk-El-Son
4 жыл бұрын
Let me know if there is another email that works better for you.
@ToyotaVangelis
4 жыл бұрын
@@Trk-El-Son just heads up - we managed to reproduce this issue and we are now testing it and hopefully release fix this week with few other bugs fixed
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
@@ToyotaVangelis hey. released update now for this issue and few others: bastl-instruments.github.io/midilooper/
Whats the maximum length of a loop track and can a part be recorded unquantized? thx
@bastlinstruments
3 жыл бұрын
Recording the initial loop will always quantize the loop length to a bar (4 beats). Recorded Loopleght could be longer than 256 beats. Only the display cannot display more numbers than that. Pressing the LENGTH without initial loop established (LENGTH light off) will take the last used Length and set it. Lenght is loooooong. It can quantize materien during recording. Please refer to manula for more information
Woooow - this is awesome news! Will the played information be auto-quantized or is it possible for "rhythmic freedom"? 🤔
@binarylabs7573
4 жыл бұрын
There is no quantization on the recording (time resolution is defined by the clock source you are using) but you can enable quantization during playback if you want
Watched as far as "up to 3 instruments"... maybe for those starting out or temporary setups on the go. If this is to replace a laptop, information about power supply is needed. Just plug in any charger?
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
usb power from anywhere. any charger or usb plug
can I record whole song length ? (3-4minutes) and how many takes?
@bastlinstruments
Жыл бұрын
The sequence can be as long as you want and you can over dub as many times as you want.
What’s the difference between this and an existing MIDI sequencer in loop mode? I might be missing something really fundamental to this concept, so apologies, but to me it looks like they’ve invented the MIDI sequencer, again.
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
the difference is in the interface and immediacy of access to the looping functions. yes you can technically do the same thing with a sequencer but you won't be able to use it really fast with pressing single buttons. the focus of sequencer interface is usually editability and precise control. the focus here is the immediacy
Can i use it as a clock generator for syncing hardware with daws?
@bastlinstruments
5 ай бұрын
It cannot be used this way.
Can anyone compare this with the Midi Router that was floating around online last year? Can the router perform all the functions of the looper? (if configured properly)
great! you can run it alongside an audio looper with MIDI sync I am assuming
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
of course - but it records only midi - no audio. i actually use this and 2 other audioloopers in my setup to get the best of both worlds
This is so beautiful 🥺 I imagine that each midi channel can be polyphonic. What is the maximum polyphony per instrument, for curiosity? And when can I get it? 😁
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
polyphony is not limited
@els1f
4 жыл бұрын
@@bastlinstruments awesome, thanks! ✌️
Hey! Can anyone identify how/what is being triggered by the kick drum pedal at 2:10? I do finger drumming and I've been searching low and high for a solution to get kick data from some kind of kick pedal.
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
it goes into the roland drumpads. it has the kick trigger input
Let me throw away my Roland MV-8800/MC-50/MC-500MkII.....*sigh* Beautiful machine!
Is there some kind of software version of this?
Nice. Is it available to buy?
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
yes. noise.kitchen has them - & other dealers too
@yqsl7726
4 жыл бұрын
@@bastlinstruments thanks
Plz tell me where the sound coming in at 3:34 is playing from? It sounds so so great
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
the roland boutique d-05
But what about Midi 2?
Yes! A chance to ask you guys about the code(5 SS) displayed on my dead Bastl Microgranny...since you never respond back to your technical support, email, Twitter or Reddit. Anybody know any info code 5 SS?
@validcore
4 жыл бұрын
You obviously read it since you hearted everybody else. Where do I go for simple support? Can you answer my emails? Is your technical support email on your website working?
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
@@validcore i did send screenshot of your message to our techsupport guy. he knows about a person writing comments and will hopefully find your email and reach back to you.
Was that ableton built in to the modular.....?
@toifel
4 жыл бұрын
It's NerdSeq
can u undo/redo overdubs? if so how many? looking in the manual, doesnt seem like you can, which is a bit disappointing considering it should be easier to implement in midi data than audio data?
@binarylabs7573
4 жыл бұрын
Overdubs are part of the main functionality; when you record over a track the new data gets merged with the existing one. There are two ways how the merging is done: overdub and overwrite (details described in the manual). There is undo/redo but you can reset the bank to the last saved state which kind of does an undo. I gues not having an undo is part of the performative focus..
@nutritionalyeast7978
4 жыл бұрын
@@binarylabs7573 ah that sucks, in my performances i find myself using undo a looot on audio loopers so it's really a dealbreaker for me tbh. I like building up loops then using undo/redo to remove and add layers ive already recorded, which is just not possible with only overwrite functionality
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
@@nutritionalyeast7978 good to hear that from you. actually this might change in the future. we are planning to make a bigger update in the future so if more people are into UNDO than we might do it. I actually prefer the danger of no-undo but after playing a bit with a boss looper i understand the appeal
@nutritionalyeast7978
4 жыл бұрын
@@bastlinstruments glad to hear it!
hi ! i have a query i see you can do this ....MIDI Looper is in Free running mode (no clock needed) .. I mean I created a bpm and can you send it? thank you
@binarylabs7573
4 жыл бұрын
It always forwards the clock information it is running on (can by any clock source) as midi clock. So yes :)
@recalldacruz
4 жыл бұрын
@@binarylabs7573 thanks!!!
kinda wish this had a tempo / loop speed knob
@BoxLab24
4 жыл бұрын
Tap tempo i believe
@StephenHandley
4 жыл бұрын
@@BoxLab24 yeah sounds like it but having dedicated knob would be rad
I just ordered one. 🙈 I have one question though (after reading the manual): Can a loop have any number of beats? Like if I record a loop that ends up at 53 or 71 beats, will that be ok?
@binarylabs7573
4 жыл бұрын
@Trk-El-Son A loop can have any number of full beats. To achieve lengths that are not a multiple of 4 beats you have to manually set the length (before recording or correct it after). When you establish a loop by recording it will quantize it to multiple of 4 beats always
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
exactly how binary labs explained. just want to add that if you want to work hardcore polyrhythm style you can use the reset input to go to the first step after any number of steps
@Trk-El-Son
4 жыл бұрын
Bastl Instruments I do not find this to be true. When changing the loop lenght after recording, there seems to be a selection of fixed lenghts to chose from. This is also what the manual says. E.g. we can have 32 beats, 36 beats, but not 28 beats. Or am I missing something here?
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
@@Trk-El-Son yes - there is a limited selection to allow to ease the access to the most values as the manual mentiones. however this might change. It would be great to have your feature requests archived via email communication so we can use that when we work in some of the user requests.
@Trk-El-Son
4 жыл бұрын
Bastl Instruments Sure. But have you not gotten my message from contact form on your website?
This is needed! What is you expected price point in US $ ?
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
why? most of the time you don't want this to be your master clock. loop length is set with buttons which is more precise than a knob
@EnviroDouglas
4 жыл бұрын
Bastl Instruments I wouldn’t use this as master clock. I was only asking what the US $ price would be. It’s on reverb.com now, so I know. Thanks!
Uhm, sequencers anyone?
@BoxLab24
4 жыл бұрын
Less intuitive this is perfect for my volcas since my Model:Cycles sequencer only does mono and it's a pain to sequence one note at a time on three tracks to get polyphony
At nearly 300 euros.. Not for me.. :(
Eurorack version would be nice, and affordable. Just built a midi interface and paid $20. Cant imagine this thing costs more than $50 diy. I guess you gotta pay for RD but 300?
I guess music now consists of two measures repeated endlessly and opening and closing a filter. Whatever happened to an actual 32 bar chord progression and a composed melody?
To je vychyt. Este nieco co by na rovnakych zariadeniach npr.2x Volca Sampler spravilo zo 16 krokov 32,ze zacne prva,pokracuje druha a zas prva. Drzim vam palce a umne plajte diery.
You showed more of the modular setup and the Moog, separately, in the video than your own product. Are you that ashamed of it? Overview videos should be short and to the point. It's like you confused a demo video and a preview video and the result didn't do justice to either one, much less your product.
You really need to work on your English. I notice you put the L sound when you pronounce O sounds.
@bastlinstruments
4 жыл бұрын
))) ok. thanks for the tip - and just out of curriosity - should I sound English, Scotish, American or?
@BennyParcher
4 жыл бұрын
You sound like maybe you speak German? But then again. Who am I to judge. I only know one language. I was being a dick I'm sorry. Thank you for the content