would have liked to have heard demonstrators explanation instead of loud music

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Hi David, I was actually NOT trying to let their voices be the focus in the original clips hence the loud music covering things. I'm new to video editing so I'll try to get better with that stuff as I go along. For me the more important information was all in the TEXT which I put in for you.

@galvinstanley3235

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore If you plan on selling this to people online,will you make a mini one for charging phones and power banks;on camping trips?

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Galvin, ironically yes when I first wrote up my 1 year business plan I had a Kickstarter campaign in mind where I would sell micro 3D printed turbines (the size you see in this video) for charging phones. But I figured people would not want to pay more than 100 dollars for these and they would only be a novelty at best even if I offered to give the 100 dollars back as credit on residential sized units later. The time to print and assemble these micro units would likely be rather costly for me I'm not really sure they'd be worth the effort in the end. I have not given up on the idea of making them but at this point I'm focusing on getting the much larger prototype built so I can get some good solid data and production numbers for everyone. I had also looked at making turbines that would be of a size sufficient to top off batteries for RV's and Boats. But until I get this prototype finished I can't really speak to production rates and I need some good data before I decide which way to move next.

@sicurr1

6 жыл бұрын

You could technically see about a joint venture with www.3dhubs.com/ or a similar company in order to still do this affordably, yet also be able to produce it worldwide with a kickstarter campaign. So far, this is by far one of the best VAWT designs I've seen in years, I hope we get to see full sized ones for home application, as well as for business applications in the years to come. I'll be happily waiting to hear more, and will keep an eye out.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jake, I'll be looking into a lot of different options. Right now I'm focused on building the next prototype to get everyone the numbers and performance data that they're asking for. From that point I'll bring together everything I know that's needed for this and try to formulate some manufacturing plans. This is a great link you provided so thank you!

I really like your opening and closing design because it makes it easily hurricane proof

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

REG3305 thank you. It's what makes my blade turbines unique. I am going to release the information on the generator next. So stay tuned.

@texmex9721

5 жыл бұрын

Closing up the turbine will certainly reduce wind drag to close to that of a cylinder. But that is certainly not zero. Commercial building standards in hurricanes involve being hit by flying 2x4s not just looking aerodynamic.

@Sailorman6996

5 жыл бұрын

A stone is also hurricane proof, the stone is just a little less productive than this vertical turbine. It would be better as 3D art in the garden.

@piusg

5 жыл бұрын

I really like your design because it is PERFECT for the RV market. A wind turbine you can program an Arduino to pop through a roof vent at one button press? Solar doesn't work everywhere... But wind does.

@fireworkstarter

5 жыл бұрын

@@piusg wind wouldnt work on your roof if there are alot of sky scrapers nearby or alot of mountains

I see the comments that were made 5 years ago. I hope that these people have followed your progress and watch your website. These things take time and you are nearly there. Keep up the good work Christopher.

@cherylmoore1915

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for your encouragement! :)

Improvements are always being made. I love the innovation of ordinary people.

@HarmonyTurbines

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ronald, If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

The following is a bit of information that was not presented in the video. I am a Renewable Energy Technician and would like to add some extra information. While VAWTs are functional pieces of art (meaning they generate power while looking appealing), they can never be as efficient as a HAWT. This is due to the fact that no matter what, 50% of the turbine is being driven by the wind (generating power), while the other 50% is fighting against the wind to return to it's original position. As well as a turbine can never exceed the Betz limit of 59.3%. I do believe wind is a viable energy source but VAWTs are not the way to go. Similarly wind turbines not only use brakes to slow down they "feather" as well. This is when the blades are turned 90° to the wind creating an air brake similar to that on an aircraft. I do like your design and would like to see it available to the public. Also what is your cut in speed for generation? Also if anyone is curious about the formula to calculate the power generated by a wind turbine it is as follows. P=(1/2 pav^3)(0.593) this is for a HAWT to calculate for a VAWT you would have to take your area of the blades and divide it by 50% and use that number for a. Again because only 50% of the blade is being pushed by the wind, the other 50% is fighting it.

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

Hello Bryan, I have been trying to engage with some engineers in the field for quite some time but most people like to only stick with what they know and what they are comfortable with. I enjoy working outside of the box and getting my hands dirty building things. Yes a VAWT is not going to be as efficient as a HAWT but somehow the industry as convinced us that this is all that matters. I am hopeful that the market is willing to take a cut in efficiency for a large gain in other benefits. Look at thin film solar vs silicon wafers. Thin film is not as efficient but has so many more benefits that it makes far more economical sense going forward with it vs the conventional silicon wafer designs. Did you see the rest of my videos in my playlist?

@BryanYachimetz

5 жыл бұрын

@@HarmonyTurbines no I have not had the opportunity to watch the rest of your videos yet. I will when I have the chance. Unfortunately the different is a loss of 50% efficiency which is quite substantial. Technology to be sustainable should be as efficient as possible. Because the ROI must be taken into consideration along with materials, transportation, land area use, etc. When considering efficiency.

@JQUICK21

5 жыл бұрын

Jealousy is a sickness! Get some therapy!

@BryanYachimetz

5 жыл бұрын

@@JQUICK21 who are you speaking to?

@BryanYachimetz

5 жыл бұрын

@@QF2653 do you have demonstrations of your turbine?

Heading to Alaska today for the Arctic Innovation Competition in Fairbanks tomorrow.

@SHREDTILLDEAD

3 жыл бұрын

WHATTT !? THE MUSIC IS KIND OF LOUD.

@HarmonyTurbines

3 жыл бұрын

@@SHREDTILLDEAD Try one of my newer videos. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oHmCr9OjoaTdobw.html

Thank you for making that and trying to make the world a better place. Blessing to you and your project.

Appreciate all efforts to work with environment and capturing maximum output. 🥰

Looks interesting, good luck with it and am interested to see the full working model up and running with some output figures.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

You and I both Simon ...I'm working to scrape the resources together to pull this off right now but prototypes are expensive. If you look at my other projects over the last 20 years I build my own stuff and get my hands dirty. I'm not afraid to put the work required into the project myself. In this case I need to be careful to do it well and with materials that will hold up to the elements for extended and bad weather testing which is where I'm hoping this design excels. Please stay tuned as the journey continues! I am going to start VLOGGING as has been suggested by some to start chronicling the story.

looks very cool and innovative

Really excited to see the finished product!

You got it going on!! Pleased to see your persistence and you're patience very polite. thumbs up Look forward to seeing some more videos.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you I'm holding off posting more right now because people are very clearly interested in the data which I cannot provide until I build the next much larger test prototype. So it's coming I just hope people can forgive the delay as I'm on a limited budget. I'm building the new scoops out of acrylic so they should be pretty light and strong in the end as well as cost efficient!

Cool idea, but I’m skeptical the gears will be able to pull in the aero while spinning due to centripetal force

Nice design. Only one I've seen that can fold in on itself. I could use this to charge my car! Can't wait to see more and perhaps one day purchase one.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Nissan, thank you for the encouragement. I'm working hard to build a small support group base and expand from there. Educating the users on how it works and then maybe one day do a some crowd funding or go for equity investment of some kind. For now I'll just work on my personal budget to try to move the prototypes forward and gather useful data for the larger test units. This is being grown from the ground up so that will slow things down but it keeps it real. Again thank you for the kind support. The best way people can help me right now is by sharing my links and spreading the word about my design.

@SaintTrinianz

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore How can I learn more about your support base? (I’m not on Facebook)

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

I do have some videos in the playlist explaining the base (generator) portion but I am am still building it. When this next prototype is finished you will see the entire thing base (generator) creating power and new 5 blade turbine on a much larger scale. I'm sorry it's not done yet but this part is expensive for someone on a shoestring budget. I'm working to try to get funding to help me but it's slow going.

@SaintTrinianz

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore What if I tie my shoestring to your shoe string? I could at least send you what I’ve been spending on wine and lottery tickets ; ) Maybe I could eventually buy a prototype, a plan or a kit. Be careful of crowdfunding, I’ve been hearing sketchy stuff about Indiegogo, like people not getting the money that was donated to their cause...

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Hi SaintTrinianz, you are very kind for offering such a selfless and generous thing. But I want the financial parts of this project to be a symbiotic relationship ...something that helps the people who give me money and also helps me. I am trying to figure out funding right now and that's why I was toying with the ideas of Crowd Funding. i know you shared reservations about funding that way though. If you go to my OUPower.com website you'll find my e-mail address and you can send me a private message I would be happy to discuss some ideas privately with you if you like.

You are one in 7 billions !!! We are creators!!! Continue using your Hearth and your mind!! Harmony!!! Great things are coming Chris!!!!!!! Use your Power Well!!!!

@normang3668

5 жыл бұрын

Exclamation marks!!!

Nice and very simple design to save the windmill is bad weather and good in low wind speed.

I've had an idea in my head for awhile, and I'm sure there's a good reason why it doesn't seem to have been tried yet. I've noticed that the wind seems to blow extra-hard around the corners of high-rise buildings, especially when there's a lot of them in a row creating a "concrete canyon". It seems to me that a long, probably segmented, VAWT incorporated into the corners of such a building, extending from the top down to the 2nd or 3rd story, could catch a whole lot of wind.

@spy2778

5 жыл бұрын

dwc1964 I’ve had exactly the same thoughts! I live in a particularly windy coastal city & those winds are sometimes strong enough for you to stand at a 45 degree angle to the wind! Governments won’t do this until they see a money making potential. It’s up to us to innovate!

Finally, a wind turbine that I can get behind.

Wow!!!!! Amazing design concept.

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael... If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

I hope that this design works in the long run it will be better for us and the birds. WIN WIN

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT. WINDTURBINS FALLING APART.

@HarmonyTurbines

4 жыл бұрын

I don't like it either, which is why I'm working so hard to change the paradigm we all accept as Normal right now. If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

I'm getting questions asking if I plan on making the STL files (3D Printer files) available publicly. I am still trying to work out some of the issues with FDM (Fused Deposition Modeling) where the top of the scoops does not print well. I solve this in my prototype model that you see in the video by printing the scoops in halves and then gluing them together. That's pretty tedious and only the hardiest of people would follow through with that. So I'd like to come up with a cleaner method before releasing the .STL files that I've designed to the public. Also I'm designing my models for a proper aluminum shaft, gears and bearings. For a little working model that you guys could print I would want it to be more simple than that. It would be a clean simple version for the public. There's also the matter of my possibly doing a kickstarter to help fund things since I am going to need startup funds to help get my full-sized prototype off the ground. I want to be careful what I release publicly before that endeavor. -At any rate, yes I'll definitely have something for you guys to print at some point! I would enjoy giving that out freely!

@adityadhathathreyan4747

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore Hi! I really liked the video. I'm trying to design my own VAWT and I'm looking at the conventional blades for the VAWT. I want to know how better I can design them and what type of a blade to use. For now, I'm trying to expose the wind onto them using straight blades. Any tips or suggestions welcome! Cheers.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Hello Aditya, I'm not really sure what you mean by conventional blades for the VAWT? By it's very definition there really are no "conventional" blades in VAWT designs. It's just some of the more popular ones that people have tried Darrieus blades, Helical Venturi Effect Fluid Turbines, Flap turbines, but it's not like HAWT where they all look like airplane propeller blades. If you want to use straight blades there are a lot of designs you can google and find. They're often in sets of 3 and pitched at an offset from vertical in a semi helical configuration.

@adityadhathathreyan4747

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore Thanks for getting back so quickly! Apologies, should have worded my question better. Is there any blade design that is more efficient than the others? Also, as shown in the video, looks like you're using a blade design software. What is the name of the software? And can you model air flow dynamics in it? Thanks!

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Aditya, I'm using CAD software from OnShape, you can google it. The software is FREE for open source use. They do have CFD modeling add-ons but they're expensive so you would have to have your own CFD solution if you did not want to pay one of their partners to do it. I doubt very much that there is blade design software out there for VAWT. It is possible you'd find some for HAWT simply because they are all mostly using the same design. Not the case in VAWT blade design.

@brettmoore3194

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore beauty design is this open source or do you have plans to manufacture. Plan on installing a 18kw 3phase generator on my farm. Hoping it can be something to draw attention to my aquaponics setup

Beautiful design!

Beautiful design.

It seems like these would have to be quite large to rotate a functional generator under load.

new I saw a 55 gal. drum cut in half, spining in the wind, in the California desert 20 years a go!

A thing of beauty is a joy forever!

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you SaintTrinianz. I think it's beautiful to watch as well. In my next version I'm going to have 5 blade pairs instead of just 3. These are 60 degrees apart from one another but the 5 blade version will be 36 degrees apart lending to a much more visible helix as it spins. This one is sort of hard to see the helix with just 3 blades.

Great work. It will pay off!

Wind-Turbines not only have disk brakes, an electronic Systems knows wind-speed and pressure and changes the angle of the wings! This is also helpful by optimization of the effectiveness of the turbine in case of low and higher wind-speed... Greetings from Germany 🧡🧡🧡

@HarmonyTurbines

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Heinz, Check out some of my much more recent videos in the playlist! This one is nearly 2 years old that you watched.

Another problem you need to consider if you're building a huge vawt, is the bearings will fail quicker, they're harder to get moving by themselves, and are more difficult to stop. This is why engineers prefer a hawt, less wear and tear, the can twist the blades and turn the yaw to slow down the speed. The brake disc is used for emergency stops and very unlikely do they fail. Vawt designs are good and most reliable in small and domestic sizes just as you're demonstrating.

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Krazyhartin, that's why I'm staying with Residential size units for starters. If companies want to scale my design up they can license it from me for the rights to do that. For now I'm not even going to worry about that part of the business. If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

@krazyhartin

5 жыл бұрын

@@HarmonyTurbines That's good. All in all, I hope your business runs well. Thanks for replying to my comment. :)

@harleyme3163

5 жыл бұрын

never heard of a maglev turbine huh... bearings are so passe these days when it only takes a 5 volt electromagnet to hold up a 300 pound vertical axis turbine ;-) ps.. centrifugal motion is used to pull a counterweight out, drag slows it down. no need for special brakes...

Very well designed

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

@Manish Joshi thanks for the kind words. If you'd like to see my recent progress... Harmony VAWT Latest Updates: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

It really is of unsurpassed beauty.

The bace design of this has been around for at least 39 years that I know of, and probably longer that that. I first saw one built in 1982. The only thing I see here that may be new is the addition of a furling system. That part looks good the way the blades close in. I think I would ditch the gears however, and use a centrifugal counter weight and lever system instead to close the blades as the RPM increases near the end of safe limits. I also seem to remember that these vertical turbines rarely over speed to begin with even with out limiters. They are a high torque low RPM design. The real reason we don't see many of these is there larger surface area makes them inefficient and unsightly when big enough for real power generation. It's is also difficult to get them mounted in the upper fast wind streams due to their size and weight.

I really like the fact that the VAWT design is safer and has some cool features. It's too bad that they are inherently less efficient than than the standard HAWT design. One big issue is that the design limits the surface area presented to the wind at any one time and worse it presents some of it's surface area to the wind in the wrong direction working against itself.

This man must give some nobel or prize. What he invent will be very useful for this world.

@whiteflush7000

5 жыл бұрын

VAWT has been around long before this. The reason it is used more in science fiction then the real world is because it utilises about 50% of HAWT and it is on the ground and the stronger winds are higher up.

Nice...i was searching for this... Beautiful..dream come true

Looks great. Only problem is efficiency. 59,3% is theoretical maximum, 44.5% to 47.4% is modern horizontal axis typical efficiency, 15% efficiency is maximum for Savonius vertical axis that include an S-shaped dual action airflow from upwind exposed intake to downwind outlet. Your model is vastly lower efficiency than the Savonius 15%, as it lacks the S-shaped dual action airflow. Possibly it's lower than 5%. However the high wind retraction / fold feature I think is nice. Even if it rarely is needed. Also catastrophic failure on the horizontal axis is extremely rare. Its easy to find any kind of extremely rare event on you tube.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the reply Sailorman, I'm hoping that I can get some decent efficiency but until I build the next prototype I'm working on, I won't be able to speak to numbers and efficiency ratings. They are coming so please stick with me through this process.

@heinerphilipp

5 жыл бұрын

4% is what Enviro Energies of Stony Creek Ontario got. CEO James Rowan on his way to jail for fraud...

@thomasrosadasilva235

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, you the only comment here who sees the problemes. I'm an engineering student and i did my work on Windturbine. I'm very much informed an i can right out the bat say that this windturbine design is terrible inefficient. This Windturbine is only "good" at very low windspeeds because it uses drag as its propulsion which on the other hand slows the turbine down at higher speeds.

@theducklinghomesteadandgar6639

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore Sailorman, Heiner, Thomas, Most people or for sure those listed here and myself to speak of, we know this turbine would be considered inefficient by many marks which have basically been listed here, SO one has to ask themselves in a comparison of this vertical against the horizontal, propeller type at normal and severe wind conditions of what takes place and of course tracking the watts produced!!! One has to also figure in maintenance, repairs needed, safety, when or under what conditions can and cannot operate, life expectancy of each unit as well!!! You will find in the long run of it all, that it will be the tortoise(vertical of this type of build) that wins the race! Not only just in wattage output but also in safety, wear and tear/repairs, animal safety, human safety, ease of use, can be residential, commercial, industrially applied, can it be added to, or will it need whole new unit and pole or just the blades and possible an added generator either in front of, behind, or on top of existing unit and "blades" etc.???? So the answer is.... if this can be built correctly and preferably at less cost than a propeller model of equal generator power... YES this tortoise will win the race! It will produce slightly less but hopefully equal to, in a window of a full 24 hour period to that of the propeller or maybe it needs a week, a month or a year or even longer window, to see it all, but even if 1/4% less efficient than the propeller it comes back as being equal or better because there will be less spent in maintenance, repairs and replacement over a 30 year period of time, big cost money savings, it will last longer for sure if built to hold up against the wind and weather and it can be! There will be less surge potentially causing battery damage, charge controller damage etc., No brakes to maintain and or replace, this can operate with little wind which is almost always available at ten to 20 feet up, so almost a constant rotation just slower! NO animals struck and possibly or likely injured and or not killed but injured to the point of suffering until it dies!!! The vertical Can be mounted virtually anywhere because of design and added together for more generating power in basically the same ground or roof surface area, definitely applicable at the size he had, for use on apartment balconies!!! That size or larger sizes used on roof tops of any building including high rises is very easily done, plu s can be added to! One can literally have at least ten of these generators in the same ground space as one of the huge commercial propeller generators!!! Looking at it as a homeowner, it would be an easy and manageable install easy to get to and keep clean for best efficiency!I I know this because a very similar model has already been field tested for if memory serves me correctly the first model prototype lived for 30 years before finally i believe finally failing in the materials that were the body/blades and or welds and what not possible rust of the unit finally taking it out of commision!!! I know they built a new model but not sure if the other was salvageable I didn't hear it mentioned!!! The source is Michael Reynolds, aka, garbage warrior, aka, earthship biotechture housing!!!

@drewartturbine

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore The efficiency question is a good one, however in fairness, small HAWTs have terrible efficiency. third party testing (SWCC), finds that the best case for a HAWT of about 20ft diameter is 31% (Bergy). Forget Betz, no small HawT has ever approached it. As well, small HAWTs are very turbulence sensitive, and so require very clean air. The SW windpower turbines rarely reached 15%. This is why almost all the small HAWT manufacturers have disappeared. A fundamental advantage in high solidity vawts is the Reynolds number advantage. In a 1m diameter turbine, a hawt will have a Reynolds number in the millions, whereas a high solidity Vawt will be in the low hundreds of thousands.

Hey Chris, that is very cool!!! How loud is it at speeds where it might generate useful loads? In the marine world, the wind turbines you often find on cruising sailboats are usually extremely loud and unpleasant. That market might be profitable to pursue, because your design appears more compact than the traditional bladed fans. The big wind-farm market seems to be more about politics and virtue-signaling than energy generation, so it might be out of reach, but the individual boater, rv'er, or remote cabin owner would be very interested in something like that. /wave from TIGPresto

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Hey Dean, thank you. The prototypes are completely silent accept for squeaking on the dowel rod I'm using right now. LOL. I will know more about the acoustic properties after I get some more parts built. I'm working on the generator portion now and will release a video explaining that as soon as I can. The generator is a very cool little piece of technology as well. I hear what you're saying with the RV and boating communities. I had them in mind long ago and would love to tap into that market. Time will tell so for now I just need help is spreading the word and awareness. FB seems to be pretty good at building a community and I hope to leverage that into crowd-funding as soon as I'm ready. Educate people on it. Let them help by giving feedback and input and then do something with true products. Even if those early products are just small working units to recharge cell phones it would be neat.

@uint16_t

5 жыл бұрын

@@HarmonyTurbines you are also not extracting any power with the prototypes, so it's not exactly comparable

Having inovation and share it publicly.....,thanks man....

So beautiful!

It is a very nice design. Inspired. I'd say its flow is its lack of flow ;) like in the yin yang the Qi must flow. A turbine gets energy from resisting the flow, but your scoops are closed at one end. the wind can't circulate. Following your original l idea, you could let the energy flow from the yin to the yang by the center (near the axis.) the air could flow from the high pressured scoop to the low pressure one, pushing it on the good direction. Anyway nie job

@HarmonyTurbines

3 жыл бұрын

Already doing that in later designs check my later videos out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gaSkrNugm7rbfcY.html

This is a an awesome idea, however, unless it can fill the pockets of a politician by giving the contract to his brother in law it may not get off the ground. I love what you have accomplished.

Thank you for pursuing this very elegant and beautiful design... I wish you the very best of success...your innovative approach will bring major benefits to people all over the world...

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words of encouragement. I will keep marching forward each day, a step at a time.

This'd be outstanding!

@HarmonyTurbines

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'm working hard to make this a reality! If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

keep you good work and don't let's discouraged by others. You self folding concept is nice ! It's folder when wind is too strong ?

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you PyroEvil, yes the design will start to fold up in strong wind to protect itself from damage. The cool part is that it will continue to run at max "safe" RPM's even furled up. It will furl just enough to drop below the safe RPM range but still be producing max electrical output.

@PyroEvil

6 жыл бұрын

Nice ! And not sure because english is not my primary language but it's furled by it's own ? I mean with electronic monitoring and motor or just mechanically with for example a kind of clutch and centrifugal force ?

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

PyroEvil I'm looking at both options and will probably play with various ball governors to see if I can get an analog solution.

Guys in Iceland Have something Similar helix design Generating power today

Beautiful and elegant design. Looking forward to more vids. Good luck in all of your endeavours!

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you D Byrd! I'll keep everyone posted as I progress.

This should be awesome. Cant wait to see the actual product.

Without generator, yes, it's spinning well. Now connect the load.

@HarmonyTurbines

3 жыл бұрын

You need to watch my newest video dude. This one is over 2 years old! Watch this one... kzread.info/dash/bejne/kX96msWkc6i-Z7g.html

With it being a drag type design instead of using lift. What have you done to improve the efficiency enough to make it commercially viable? Similar designs have been around for a very long time but were never successful due to their very low efficiency and tip speed ratio.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Ed, I'm just starting to work on those points now. Improving efficiency to the highest that I can get it (within reason) is of course my goal but I will not sacrifice safety in the name of efficiency as others in the past have done. My turbine blades are built for extreme wind conditions and survivability. I know that wing tip speeds in VAWT are slower than HAWT but if I have a lot more torque then I can compensate in other ways to generate more power. Plus with the video I'm hoping to release today I hope to show that with solid core coils my design should generate FAR more output per coil than competing designs of similar size.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Ed did you see my generator explained video? This should help!

@Ed.R

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore I have just watched them, very good demonstrations. I investigated this very problem as a college project with a wind turbine built using a modified car alternator. Will be interested to see how you design works and if it can eliminate starting torque. My main concern about efficiency is that the blade design means that for half the time a blade not contributing any useful torque. In fact its working against the ones that are. In very windy locations this design does have a use, in a typical back garden, almost useless.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Ed, I agree that this will have most heavy application in very windy locations but I would like to work on making it viable technology for all reasonably windy locations. Obviously the blades do suffer from the drawback you mention so that is indeed a challenge but I am not afraid to get my hands dirty and work on creative solutions to the issue.

@Ed.R

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore If you're serious about developing this design there's one thing I'd recommend and that is get a data logger. Seeing your latest video and trying to read numbers made me think of it. In my college day this meant buying a £200 logger but now it can be done with an Arduino and some modules that cost very little. Get an SD card module, a current and voltage module and a reed switch for rpm. Make an anemometer again with a reed switch and calibrate it for wind speed. Get all these values logged onto the SD card, get them onto a spreadsheet, calculate the efficiency and create a power curve.

great design Sir!

Amazing work

If this was so great, the bean counters putting electricity on the grid would have long-since converted over the the giant propeller machines. Maybe they just didn't like the extraneous and unneeded music of this video and left after two minutes.

@VexingVelvet

3 жыл бұрын

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win” -Mahatma Gandhi

@tangokaleidos1926

3 жыл бұрын

You are so very gullible.

Very cool product, but I think you can do without portraying windmills, green energy, as villains. Going to check out what you've done since this. Really good concept.

@davewilco822

4 жыл бұрын

but they are. why not do a bit of real research for yourself

@Xx-xd3zo

4 жыл бұрын

@@davewilco822 - They're not. Just be a little smarter about these things. See ya!

@davewilco822

4 жыл бұрын

@@Xx-xd3zo just because you said lol. Stop being a sheep!

@Xx-xd3zo

4 жыл бұрын

@@davewilco822 - Sheep think windmills are villains.

Looking nice your design 🖖

Awesome design

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Bungee thank you!

Your choice of music of an informational blog is unnecessary. The information is very interesting . I wonder how much power can be generated and put on the grid with out going thru the steps that the wind turbines need.

@BryanYachimetz

5 жыл бұрын

Less energy is produced with a VAWT than a HAWT.

@kathystevetrooperblanck609

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, @@BryanYachimetz!

That's a Savonius turbine with a pitch control, not brand new but it works

@frodobolson213

5 жыл бұрын

Also, it is less efficient extracting the kinetic energy of the wind than a horizontal wind generator, that's because horizontal turbines are the most use.

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

@@frodobolson213 we'll see what kind of performance I get once mine is in production. Then we can start talking numbers. If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

@harleyme3163

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, the savonious design is actually pretty old.. but the lenz 2 vawt is actually the most effecient of all the vawt designs. :-\

@bogumilleszczynski7639

5 жыл бұрын

For last 9 years such a turbine supply air to a loch in my hometown in Poland. Not a new concept just adjustable components required and you could use it in different ways.

@frodobolson213

5 жыл бұрын

@@bogumilleszczynski7639 that's the thing, if it works and make it's purpose it's perfect 😊

amazing! great job!

excellent idea !!

Turning alone doesn’t mean you have the torque to extract energy from the process though. I want to see them turn under generator load.

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

@Jeffry Anderson Me too! You'll see I'm getting close to testing this now for all of us... Harmony VAWT Latest Updates: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

Looks like the Yin-Yang reference is the only selling point for this...

@HarmonyTurbines

4 жыл бұрын

Why don't you watch some of my new videos of the full sized prototype instead of judging the project on this 2 year old video. If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the Playlist URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs If you'd like to help support our work through Patreon - www.patreon.com/CreatingMoore #HarmonyVAWT #windturbine #renewableenergy

@ww-pw6di

4 жыл бұрын

​@@HarmonyTurbines You're way over emphasizing it and by doing so you make the whole thing *seem* like a silly free energy scam.

Very fantastic video

excellent i would like to build like that one in our up country.May God bless you

Why this great design is not being used in production ?

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

Working on it as fast as I can

@onegerard1

5 жыл бұрын

i am puzzeled myself now

@harleyme3163

5 жыл бұрын

to small.. the productive.. 15 kilowatt ones are pretty big and use wings because they're more effecient the blowing a big panel around... think our 10 kilowatt one covers about a 25 to 30 foot circle.

It's a different premise, thus those different designs work both. If this turbine was scaled that it would generate as much power as the shown "bad" ones, then it would be that huge, that it might fail too, or is not that good to birds too. A difficult comparison you are doing here. But the design is great nonetheless.

@HarmonyTurbines

4 жыл бұрын

But that's exactly the point. Those big devices are not setup to help you and make or save you money; they're setup to gather something freely available and then charge you the consumer for it. I'm looking to change the paradigm here and take that need away. I'm trying to help us see that we can all generate what we need at home level or village level and there is no need for the behemoths in the sky. Harmony can be small, beautiful and graceful and still give you exactly what you need. Couple perhaps 2 Harmony VAWT's on your home with thin film solar on the roof and you're done. You'd make 100% of the power needs of your home without any need (other than a security blanket) of being tied into the grid power. Obviously you'd want a sufficient battery bank and an emergency backup generator to supplement if neither wind or solar sources supply your needs for a day or two; but we're not talking rocket science here. We're talking common sense mostly self-sufficient setup ...that's what I'm driving for.

@SellusionStar

4 жыл бұрын

@@HarmonyTurbines Okay, now I got your point. You are talking about self-sufficient power generation in general. And you are criticizing the commercial system. I thought you criticized the engineering achievements of the big wind turbines. Thanks for clarification.

@HarmonyTurbines

4 жыл бұрын

Sure no problem. You may not have been aware but if you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

Way to evolve 👍

thanks for useing your mind in a benifical way for all life thanks representing bird kind ye hope deeply for your success and hope to see them world wide sum day thanks again for the great work

Could that design work for a water wheel?

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

Yes sure just a bit different engineering involved.

@ziongray918

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore i like the design. Reminds me of Eagle talons....maybe you can make a video of it infront of a fan or a leaf blower generating electricity? Like a simple light? Depending on the output of energy. Weither by elongation. Stacking making it bigger in whole. Aluminum or plastics. Or even perpetual counter balancing weight and a thin mesh safty cage.might be able to sell them to be hooked up ontop homes...if nothing comes from it which i doubt could allways turn it into public sculpture...i like the concept of how it goes from a cylinder to not and back with the wind in like a centrifugal motion totally reminds me of an egyption or greek design even arabic.. People like that type of esthetics. Now painting a scene or adding thin relief images are on a different level..a fountain might be cool even who knows. Even gardin art?....its cool cause its design has universal capabilities. Great job in the design man. Keep working on this and messing with its design and applications.

@onegerard1

5 жыл бұрын

@@HarmonyTurbines like how to get the water to fall down

@harleyme3163

5 жыл бұрын

very ineffeciently maybe.. a bicycle wheel with a lot of little tabs on it would work better

The music ruined it. Could not hear the intended audio.

@HarmonyTurbines

3 жыл бұрын

I wrote it numerous times in the description and INFO Cards in the video ...nothing spoken by anyone in the video is meant to be audible. Everything important is in TEXT to read. I have much newer videos (over 80) without music if you'd like to view one of them. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oHmCr9OjoaTdobw.html

It also have a beautifull movement

Excellent research ..

Make a huge model with coils and magnets and then see how it compares.

This design may have scaling issues. The amount of wind power harnessed is partially due to the "face-print" of the blades -- IE, any of the area that you shouldn't stand or you'll get hit. Additionally, the length of the blades on the really big wind-turbines makes for a whole lot of torque, *_AND_* having such a big cycle with so much inertia makes for a very smooth turning. Meaning, wind is never really very steady, but the blades don't suddenly pick up speed with a burst, and they don't really lose speed with a momentary lull. Furthermore, there are step-up transmissions inside of the turbine up top, and a single turn of the giant fan translates into thousands of revolutions inside of the generator, putting the generator at a very favorable efficiency curve. We're seeing about 44% effeciency of these larger wind turbines, whereas VAWTs generally do much less. Innovation is great, I'm not knocking innovation, and I'm not knocking the design of this particular video. But I *am* pointing out some things about the enormous wind turbines that people are ripping on.

@HarmonyTurbines

4 жыл бұрын

Hey sorry for the delay in my reply. I'm not looking to scale these up; not initially anyway. If a company wants to license the rights to do so, I'm certainly open to it. My goal however, is to provide power at the household and neighborhood level. I don't want these to be huge and ugly. They are an amazing piece of tech but scaling up often comes at the expense of a number of things. You're looking at a very old video here so If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

Very smart Very Good Congratulations Well Done Way Cool - for lack of a better word

Congratulations on your modified Savonius wind turbine

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Stick around I'm working on the much larger prototype that should answer a lot of efficiency questions for us all.

For an informed discussion of windmills see "Engineering with Rosie". Over the series she puts into perspective bird strikes, waste disposal, the pros and cons of horizontal vs vertical windmills. She also covers how they are controlled, brakes are not mentioned (probably very old designs). kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4FhyaWvmLTOgLg.html

The fan need a protection for bird Poor eagle

Brilliant!

Very cool!

Hi Guys, my company was selected as a finalist in the 2018 Ben Franklin Big Idea contest so that's pretty exciting. If I win some money from the contest I will be using it for my next phase which is the much larger prototype development. I would also like to consider doing some CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) modeling but I probably don't have a large enough budget for that at this time. If anyone has CFD resources available to them and would be willing to help me, please send me a message!

@heinerphilipp

5 жыл бұрын

CFD will prove your Savonius turbine to be non viable. I can send you CFD studies of similar turbines. Our unit came in at 4% efficiency. Must be over 30% to be commercially viable.

@hokusei5822

5 жыл бұрын

Are you still looking for the modellers? Perhaps I can help

@WonderMagician

5 жыл бұрын

Persevere!

@drewartturbine

5 жыл бұрын

Hello Heiner, I am very interested in any CFD studies of Savonius type turbines. Please let me know if you are willing to share your sources.

@drewartturbine

5 жыл бұрын

@@heinerphilipp I am very interested in any CFD studies of Savonius type turbines. Please let me know if you are willing to share your sources.

The patent means you want to keep the technology for yourself right?

@HarmonyTurbines

2 жыл бұрын

Ambitious, it simply means that we're building our company and products around our intellectual property. It means that we're introducing Harmony as a solid product with good controls over manufacturing and production to ensure that we build a good name for ourselves first. After that is done and the product has worldwide recognition, then we can work on goals such as making DIY kits and even open source kits. But if we introduce those kits first and people do them incorrectly or wrong we risk getting a bad name for our product before it's even been introduced to the world. Watch any of our 120 videos here on KZread and you will see we're sharing everything as we go, we are telling our story. We are not in this for fame or riches. We're trying to give Harmony Turbines the maximum chance of achieving global acceptance and success around the world. We are not doing this to be rich or famous, I couldn't care less about that. We're in this to help our world become a better place. If you'd like to help support our efforts through an investment you can go to WeFunder.com/harmony.turbines and if you're not able to invest we would ask that you at least help us to spread the URL to let others know what we're doing here to help make the world a better place.

@Copernicus22

2 жыл бұрын

@@HarmonyTurbines Sounds great. I wish you all the best. Hope your project succeeds!

Genius! It is also more pleasing to look at imo. And you can also incorporate optical illusion patterns that you can see from any direction 😲. Can't wait to see this application put to use.

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

@Luke Razonski yes I'd love to play with graphics later on. And I'd very much like to use recycled plastic in my units. If you'd like to see Harmony VAWT Latest Updates, here's the URL: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

That's rad. Great design.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Adam. I'm going to be posting more videos as soon as I get the next prototype under way. It's going to be much larger with scoops about 2' in diameter vs this little model where the scoops are 6" in diameter.

1:25 - ill answer your question - if there was a better way we'd be using that design on an industrial scale instead of current wind turbines. Guess what.....

This might be good for small applications but unless you find a way to scale this up to an industrial level. I don't really think this will have a lot of use in our society.

This would be a great design for up in a narrow canyon where I live. There is almost always a breeze blowing up the canyon but when we get bad storms, the canyon harnesses the wind and it's like being in a wind tunnel. I have built my own small scale wind devices but the horizontal axis doesn't handle extreme wind pressure and requires more than a gentle breeze to be effective !

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

@Fred Bentley yes I think it would be a perfect design for your needs! Please stay in touch as I progress with the prototype and testing. I'm looking to make these affordable for everyone ...not just the deep pockets! Harmony VAWT Latest Updates: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

Looking forward to seeing this in Home Depot... Seriously... A Turn Key system would fly off the shelves. Good job. I hope you keep manufacturing in America.

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ralph! It would be a great thing to have that become reality. I'm not sure residential sized units would be sold in a Home Depot environment but I could certainly see the Recreational versions sold in that manner. I am looking to keep all jobs created by this local.

Too many moving parts. It will fail economically for that reason

@TheMrMoren

5 жыл бұрын

Since the wind turbines compared to in the vid has so very few moving parts? 🤔

@b7et5

5 жыл бұрын

Well, then. Show me your system working in ten years.

@arnoldseivwright2920

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think it will fail, but I do worry about the tiny gears in the centre shaft, I like it! But I'm no engineer 😁

You only seem to be disturbing the background music....

@HarmonyTurbines

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it great! If you want to watch a much newer video of our progress and where we are today, here you go: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mY2TpsWCmrnSXco.html

Great idea keep it up

That is so cool!!!

Pretty sure nobody cares if your turbine looks like yin and yang or a DNA helix. Just needs to be safe and efficient

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure you are wrong, if this proves to be an efficient and inexpensive design it could be a game changer. Marketing and news would be all over it looking like yin-yang and there would be news interviews asking about the inspiration behind it, yadda yadda yadda. For now it's a fun fact and I'm not going to debate it's significance until the performance of my design is known.

@Zoobrazz

5 жыл бұрын

@@HarmonyTurbines Ignore the negativity .Keep pushing on this looks great and promising .Can't wait for the final product Good Luck !! We will be following

@dougselsam5393

4 жыл бұрын

@@HarmonyTurbines And how long can you go on pretending there is some "reason" you cannot measure the "performance" right now, as in today? Volts x Amps = Watts, so measure it and take a video. Do the math and show us the power. The meters are super-cheap, or free at Harbor Freight. This is known as a Savonius turbine, the least efficient of the commonly-known types of wind turbine. It doesn't get any lower than having to explain to a wind turbine inventor he (sigh) needs to spin a generator...

Background music too loud like the idea

I thik the HP is very strong here . Very good idea . Continue

Me encanta su proyecto 😇

“Most turbines use a brake to slow down “ could not be more wrong! Most turbines use “Aerodynamic braking” to slow down a rotor. They do have a brake, but not to slow down the turbine. Please invest more time into researching!

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

@Christian Goebert sure the big 10 million dollar turbines do. But no residential turbines. I'm building and competing with residential wind turbines. Later if I feel spunky I will start looking to go larger. Please see these for further information... Harmony VAWT Latest Updates: kzread.info/head/PLqbwi-6vny7s3NVYuynqVG5oyLxysgfIs

@przemeksmigasiewicz7946

5 жыл бұрын

So, if the big-10 million $ turbines don’t use the break to slow down , why you use the image that type of the turbines in your film and say the « break problème » story? I smeal manipulations hear 😀

@jungleb

5 жыл бұрын

@@przemeksmigasiewicz7946 yeah

@i_critique_your_vanity7216

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore we have tons of these massive wind turbines where I live and some do have brakes, but not to slow down, but to keep them parked when Inactive. Larger turbines can change the angle of attack their blades make with the wind similar to the collective on a helicopter. A brake used for slowing down is a massive waste of energy and a hazard for the machine and makes ZERO sense from an engineering perspective. Unfortunately you’re still incorrect.

@tbear68-

5 жыл бұрын

However we CAN all agree that the time for new engineering is now, and the current "green machines" we are putting up now are in fact antiquated.

share 3d-models for people

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

I have thought about it. I may end up doing it sometime in the near future so that people can print their own small version of Harmony!

@user-xh5kx4mi1h

6 жыл бұрын

it is an act of a responsible person

@user-xh5kx4mi1h

6 жыл бұрын

-Ah vilable-boy go to a psychologist, better to a psychiatrist ((

@HarmonyTurbines

6 жыл бұрын

-Ah vilable- Why on earth would you say something like that?

@TsarOfRuss

6 жыл бұрын

China will start producing it before ur patent is even approved in the US .. its part of the intellectual properties Trump is fighting China for

I made a similar windmill/turbine a long time ago when I was in high school... 1987 or 88. All because I seen for myself the birds getting killed. My grandparents lived in Banning California....windmills galore out there. Anyway, I really hope you are successful in this endeavor 😊

@harleyme3163

5 жыл бұрын

a barrel cut in half and offset? :-)

@mostrosticator

5 жыл бұрын

@@harleyme3163 that would most certainly work. The dimensions of the offset are dictated by many different factors however.

Great, super great!

@HarmonyTurbines

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! :)