Love your your slow, logical and consistent explanation of exactly where you are, were and going. Helps us follow along easily. Thanks. Please keep up the great work.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

This looks like one of those occasions when you really Really Really would like to sit down and talk to the miners that created it and have them explained how it all worked and why did what it did!!! 🤠👍

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Most definitely!

Thats a pretty interesting mine .. not much for artifacts, but you can see the years of labor put into all those stopes and levels. Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

I always feel like I'm with you when you show us a mine. You have always done fantastic work. Thank you 😊

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'm glad you've got that feeling...

Thank you Justin for exposing this old gold mine and explaining what the miners were doing for removing the ore.

My mother used to know a lady way back in the 1960's and her name was: Betty Slusher. Her name always stuck with me because I like mines and grew up in a very old mining town. Plus, I just always thought it was kind of a humourous name. So, when you walked past that 'slusher' in the mine and commented on it, I started laughing immediately, which always seems to be the case when I hear that word. Thank you as always Justin, for sharing your adventures and explorations with us all. And many thanks to Betty Slusher, where ever she might be, for keeping me entertained with her name.

@TVRExploring

Жыл бұрын

That is a funny name!

Very cool mine! It's cool when you can really see the fault and contact zone where they were bringing out the ore from - the whole mine seems to be at the same angle essentially.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's a good point!

Wow !!! This has to be one of your best explorations. The questions raised by the geology is fascinating and riveting. I would love to see how far down the next level and if it is worth removing the waste rock. You will probably find the orebody pinches out and that's why the miners left. When a lensed orebody starts reducing that quickly, it's usually the end and the miners moved on to new ground. The stopes indicate a pretty good sized fault with clearly defined head and footwalls with a nice orebody sandwiched between. I could spend a week here just gawking at the formation and extents of the stopes. Thanks so much for the great video and adventure. I'm glad you hooked up with Patreon and plan to help out by joining !!!!

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think you're 100% right about all of that... Indeed, the ore must have been quite good along the shaft for them to stope it out as extensively as they did here. Thank you very much for the Patreon support. It is greatly appreciated!

A very interesting mine, with a nice confusing layout lol they went all over the place again.

Yet another incredible adventure. Thank you TVR!

You just never know. Nice find! Step lightly!

I like going underground with you. Very informative. Thanks cheers from Australia.

I've been fascinated with mines since 1962 when I was six years old. My dad and my mom's cousin, a geologist in Moab, prospective with Geiger counters and mined uranium from several claims. I would camp with them and wander about the desert. Their biggest claim became the Rio Algum Lisbon Valley Mine near Moab. 2000 ft deep shafts 1/8th mile apart. The headframe shaft and the dewatering and air circulation shaft. 17 years 24/7 with 250 employees and the refinery built at that site that took all the ore on the Western slope. There's nothing left except three ponds..companies have reclaimed it for the future prospect. A gentleman in Moab told me it was a sad day when the mine closed...largest employer in town...250 people lost their jobs.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

I, obviously, share your fascination. However, I didn't grow up around mines as you did. And I'm quite envious of that because your story is amazing... You were really out there in the golden age! By the way, that mine sounds huge.

@VintageLPs

2 жыл бұрын

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

Hi Justin, I hope you are okay as you sounded a bit down and not your normal self. This mine was both intriguing and confusing in equal measure lol. Thank you for sharing, sending love and hugs. xx ❤

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your concern, but I am doing well. This was the last mine on a trip of several intense days. So, we were all exhausted!

@SueGirling68

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVRExploring That's good to hear, I know what you are going through as I have lost both of my parents in these last 8 months. xx ❤

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

@@SueGirling68 I'm very sorry that you are going through that as well, Sue. I was quite close to my mother and so that one hit hard...

@SueGirling68

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVRExploring Same with my Dad, I'm still numb right now 😢

Now that mine shaft ended up opening into layers of questions! As you said, there sure was a lot of work done in the 60's there!!! I wonder when the digging first started and who decided it was a great place to dig down!👍 Fascinating experience 💯😊 Thanks

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Ha, yes, it certainly does. You can see why I chose "intriguing" for the title.

@tortugalisa4748

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVRExploring Great Intriguing video it was👍

Interesting place, thanks for the tour Justin!

Very cool explore down the shaft! Different... Awesome swiss cheese stopes. Thanks for the view man!

Thanks for the interesting post.

Great mine! Thank's for sharing.

Can have a good drinking game with vid, have a drink every time you say stope🤣

Looks exactly like a west/central Nevada play. Most were either low grade ore, or speculation money holes. They would chase a quartz/mineral vein down punching side shafts to try to locate richer ore.

Good explore on a “follow the gold”-type mine! That was a nice intact Mercury barrel at the bottom of the decline; might indicate free-milling ore with mercury amalgamation recovery. Thanks for taking us along!

Always excited to see a new one posted!

Kinda looks like a mine off the 395 near Trona Ca. in the eighties we never went in it because we were there to ride dirt bikes. It was dangerous off the dirt roads because there were open shafts EVERYWHERE!

Very interesting that last section you were looking around! I think you're right in the caption about the slusher: I expect that they were using the slusher to clear ore from that stope. The ramp and platform were for bringing the ore up to be dumped into an ore car. Not that the ramp splits and goes two directions. Unclear the order of work, but it sure would have been easy to high-grade the ore right in that stope passage and backfill the bottom with the waste rock. Guess they could have also been using the slusher to backfill (since the bottom stope is more full at the "front" near the platform and ramp, but in that case I can't really explain the ramp and platform. Maybe they backfilled after using the slusher to clear the stope waste and ore. Maybe they dug the top stope first (slushing it through the passage) and then when they exhausted that part they started digging down from the passage and had to abandon the slushing approach.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Those are good possibilities... I pondered that one for a while after our visit!

Awesome mine! Great video! 👍👊😎

Thank you for the video

Thanks, Justin!

Thanks man that was great.

Intriguing indeed!!

I respect and appreciate your work. I would never go into a closed mine like that. Someone pillaged the pillars or tore out the tracks a recent shift in the ground and you are squashed pie flatter than Prince Albert in a can

Awesome video I like it

A very interesting mine . Thank you for taking me with you Why did they stop mining . Ore is still thete Tske care yours Frank Galetzka

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Rules and regulations kill a lot of mining projects...

Very nice mine

Sweet 👍

Imagine going in there then you come out in a different world as if the mine was a portal

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of times that it has felt like that for me... One time, for example, we went into a mine on a warm, sunny day and emerged into a blizzard several hours later.

Intriguing amazing stopes

The outside world is something else,but the inside world is my favorite place,thanks for another great video, anxiously waiting for the next,be safe brother!!!👍

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I love it underground (for a while) as well...

No matter how deep you go, beer bottles

I think I saw some areas of quartz, but not really veins to speak of... interesting place!

Good afternoon from Southeast South Dakota

idk why, for once, this mine screamed to me, it would have gone further down and the slam at the shaft, its either fallen by itself or the miners put it there, because their were down there and heck all the fill down below, but i do agree with you, its a very confusing mine and you can easily get lost there. that vinze is gonna annoy me now lol, where does that lead and does it lead to working further down?

Good one Justin they must have saved themselves a lot work by not double handling the waste the ore body must have been wide for them to have been able to separate ore from waste without hauling it to the top. cheers☘

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, given the hassle of hauling out the waste rock in our mine, I can definitely see the appeal of dumping it down a nearby stope.

Another fantastic video. Did it ever connect to the large adit in the front in the big dug out pit?

Dude I love your videos. Your nuts man.. have you ever had a really close call with cavein? Or no not at all

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Saw the video thumbnail and no shit thought it was a catapult lol

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Now, that WOULD be intriguing to see at a mine!

This would have been another good one to have a 3D scanning setup to map the whole thing out. Lots of pockets removed all over the place. At the end there that may have gone pretty far down. The post you read said 200 feet from decline, but what was left open was probably only another 30 feet along. There may have been a steep downward turn that was quite deep. OR, it could be referring to the path you entered as the decline but it didn't seem like that was 200 feet away. That post with the ore load markings. There were some days were they hauled out a BUNCH of loads. 30 to 40 loads in a day is some serious laboring. I don't remember you ever describing why they count the ore loads...? Is it to keep track of payouts later, payment by productivity rather than hours worked?

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I would love to see a model of this mine... 30 to 40 loads a day is indeed a lot. We have gotten days into the 30s in our mine, but never up to 40. I can't speak for this particular mine, but at our mine and others I have visited, it is simply a way to track productivity and sometimes to rub it in the face of the guys on the other shift...

That was interesting. The "intriguing" title is most appropriate.

Hi, it was a series of mines that extracted Gilsonite, a semi-petrified petroleum deposit. They were vertical fissures in a sandstone bedrock that were filled by this hard tar like substance. The mines are in the Uintah Basin , and some are still active, on the Colorado-Utah border. If you Google the Uintah Railroad, which was used to transport the material, you will get an idea of what I am talking about. I realise it it easy for me to sit in front of my PC screen here in the UK and make suggestions, but if you are ever out that way, it would make for very interesting viewing. How is your gold mine going?

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds pretty cool... I'll look into it.

Great video! I detect the presence of a Rocket.

The dust must of been terrible. Cool mine

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I imagine it would have been...

THe amount of faulting is just amazing, its almost like the whole mine has faults going every each way...the pressure must of been intense. I bet it was a PITA to shore up the walls. lol It made me wonder if any mines employ a different way to get ore from it via air suction instead of hauling? If ore was made into gravel underground, it could be easily vacuumed up to top. Would seem to be less labor intensive, and also make for cleaner mine conditions.

@beardy4831

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not an expert but never heard of it being vacuumed out. In some mining methods it is turned into a wet slurry of sorts and pumped out. But that's way different.

@TheGreatestJuJu

2 жыл бұрын

Smashing rock in a confined area would create at lot dust and debris in the air. Plus complexity of lugging a rock crusher around and running gas power machine with little air flow would make it tricky. Vibrations might be bad for stability of surrounding rock. Im not a miner or construction worker, so I could be wrong on all points. Just my best guesses.

@TheGreatestJuJu

2 жыл бұрын

@@zedsdead5454 Who’s Zed? Thx for info 😉

It's an amazing mine seeing The outside view where did the miners live and lumber where did that come from and who owned it and when' it's worth cleaning up for a museum of sorts

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

All good questions... As you saw, the surface was barren.

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Hi, have you considered having a look at the Uintah Gilsonite Mines? While not being adits, drifts or shafts, the unique deposits in vertical seams would be a fascinating bit of mining archeology.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not familiar with that mine.

a Stargate Kino would be handy.

I'd be looking at the actual ore to see if there any flakes of gold. There must be some.

It must have been HORRIBLY noisy and dusty to work in there!

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I imagine it would have been.

At 17:55 there another one of those mercury barrels with the large rolling rings on the barrel body.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Good eye!

If that last stope that was being filled in did go down a long way I wonder how they got the ore out of the bottom? They seemingly could not send it down to a haul level if they were below the bottom of the shaft.

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I got lost, how did you go down so far. Then find a stope with day light? stay safe ALL thank you

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Weird, huh?

Quite the labyrinthine adventure! I swear, I don't know how you keep from getting lost. On a personal note, how are you doing, Justin? I know you've been through some tough things over the past year or so, and I wanted to check in with you. Everything OK? And, is your lady OK, too? I hope so. 😊

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

It is easier to keep track when you're actually there, but, yes it does get tough to keep the layout clear in your head sometimes... Thank you for checking in. I'm doing well, but I am extremely busy taking care of everything that needs to be taken care of with houses, estates, people, animals, etc. Things will be great in the end though because I have a good vision and plan to carry it out. My wife just got back from Ukraine, so I am glad that she emerged unscathed.

@VintageLPs

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVRExploring Wow! With all you have had to handle, you also had the worry of your wife being in 🇺🇦 Ukraine? Too much. It’s two years since my husband passed away and I am still trying to get our joint tenancy (house) Warranty Deed into my name alone. I did it for my mom in 1987 with one trip to the Clerk and Recorder’s office but now I have a half dozen forms to fill out, other agencies to see, etc., and it is a simple clear deed. My advice for everything you do is call ahead!

@AGDinCA

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVRExploring Oh, man! I didn't know she was in Ukraine. What was she doing there? She's Italian, right?

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

@@AGDinCA Yes, she's from Italy. She is one the subjects in a documentary about people that visit war zones (she came with me to help out on many of my visits to such places and Netflix and the others funding the documentary wanted a female character).

@AGDinCA

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVRExploring Oh, that's very interesting. Speaking of, I'm actually kind of surprised you're not over there reporting right now. I mean, I'm glad you aren't, but I imagine that's the sort of thing you usually cover. Right?

Not sure what the weird contraption was, but the wood right next to it looks like a truck loading dock, so perhaps it was an office of powder storage, perhaps of old metal, as I see rivets, while I also see safety railings on the headframe and other indications that this is a fairly modern operation)) of some kind. The small chamber just inside the entrance doesn't make much sense as powder storage, if miners rode down on the rails, as why have an extra stop to get powder? The powder shed would likely have been above ground, just to save time.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this mine definitely left some questions...

Can you show us any ore they were mining.

Could it be a wash table sluice box

Do you know of any mines near el paso Texas? Or orogrande new mexico? I got access to about 340 acres out in orogrande. I'm a member of our local prospecting club and I'm in the claims. I've tried researching the history of the place but I guess I just ain't good at it

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not aware of underground mines in those areas.

PS: Stay away from exploring those vertical holes near, or around Tonapah. They are deceptive death traps!!!

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

I've been in many of them and, yes, the ground there is pretty bad...

you should tell what desert your in

Is there much seismic activity in this area?

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Not that I'm aware of...

First to like!! That never happens. Hello Justin!! Come over to Texas and go to a mine with us! I haven’t seen any footage from the mines in Thurber, Texas.

@worldtraveler930

2 жыл бұрын

Tarleton State University has put up a rather nice museum at the old mine aera and There are still mine workings accessible but only on private land, at least from what I have been able to research. 🤠👍

@carlwest859

2 жыл бұрын

Some of the mines close to the interstate were burned decades ago and dozed over, some tailings and waste rock piles were hauled off for roadbuilding and running tracks. Think coal was the major mineral and oil replaced that. Other mines may be flooded, hope some are still in good condition and the land owner would allow an explore and documenting.

@redlight722

2 жыл бұрын

@@carlwest859 hello Carl. I live close to Thurber. If you look at google earth over the town you can find maybe five good size tailings piles still around. There is also one just south of county road 3137 just west of Palo Pinto lake.

@worldtraveler930

2 жыл бұрын

@carl west Yes Carl the mining was for coal but from my research the deepest mine was just 157' deep (the clay used in the bricks was strip mined from nearby blufs.) I am told that the mines that are on private land still have all their artifacts from the last time they were mined mostly due to fear of limited to no airflow. I grew up hearing stories about how the mules went Sun Blind upon being brought out of the mines after generations of living inside the mines!

@redlight722

2 жыл бұрын

@@worldtraveler930 after the coal was stopped. They made Thurber Bricks out of the clay. I have been collecting the bricks the past few years.

19:13 looks like a skull under the rock...

Pretty flaky and scabby, which seems to be fairly typical of mines on the desert floor.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

I hadn't thought about that before, but, yes, they are pretty consistent in having ground like that...

Put your patreon link in every Video. It will pay off over the years.

12:26 and 16:24 looks like the same place the boards look the same

12:02 and 16:50 is that the same platform?

@daveg2104

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like it. Very observant of you.

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that does look like the same. Good call.

KZread recommended having a blinder

Orb 7:32 right side

Hmm. Bird or Bat droppings?

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

Bird

@jeffepstein4138

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVRExploring Alrighty then! I'll take your word for it with one caution: Aerosol rabies associated with caves housing bats and smelling of ammonia has claimed the lives of noted chiropterologists in the past.

Definitely not your standard mine. Shows the length people will go to in order to get rich. Must have been a lot of gold in that one.

Why is it called "Ground Fall"? It should be "Roof Fall"

@TVRExploring

2 жыл бұрын

That's a fair point.

@loyalkuhn5778

2 жыл бұрын

Or, perhaps, "back fall".

Second!