Thank you so very much for letting us in on this conversation! One thing I have noticed throughout my seventy years plus life with dogs, is that they are better at “reading” us than we are are of them. Making me wonder who is actually more intelligent…..

So interesting! I have always said to people, "No this (dog, cat, horse) is not stupid, it did that because (some natural behavior, genetic tendency, learned behavior, survival instinct). It would not seem so stupid in context." I started training my dad's Irish setters at an obedience class I was too young at age 9 in the 1960s and took standard classes for years after and worked training at kennels through young adulthood. While I have philosophically shied away from anthropomorphizing and cannot stand goo goo ga ga baby talk (but, like you, I do speak simply and clearly using the same words for things as I did for my children). Bunny has really made me think and realize my life time of conversing with dogs as second nature (despite my philosophy, I just do it) has not been crazy. I spent 24/7 with my German Shepherd who seemed to read my mind. I figured I was cueing her but could not fake her out. Somehow when I got out of my chair at night she knew I was going upstairs to bed or outside and met me at the correct door. If I tried to fake her out, she stayed lying on the floor, just looking at me. She was much smarter than me! I was unaware that I conversed with dogs (like my dad ) until my daughters boyfriend was over (same dog), he never had owned a dog. Observing me, he said in true amazement and wonder, "You speak to the dog as if she understands you!" Well. I laughed seeing myself from his point of view for days and still do! It must have seemed as silly as speaking to the table or chair! My Fila Brasileiro I rescued as an adult, hated men. He would bark from inside my car at any he saw. Nothing seemed to stop this. In desperation I said, sitting in the parked car with him barking away and not expecting him to get it at all, "I will take care of YOU, Buddy. You don't need to protect me." He never was like that again! Loved men after that! Later I heard he had been originally bought and possibly trained to protect a woman from her violent husband! You blew my mind mentioning Ray Coppinger! You opened what was for decades a crack in the door to peek through to opening the whole door! I was aware of his work related to Livestock Guardian Breeds and their inborn tendencies (also mentioning their body types as well as other breeds as related to their behavior but mostly in the context of LGDs) which was revolutionary at the time, hardly anyone in the USA had these dogs on farms, now they are widespread. I actually corresponded with Ray and Lorna. Their insights were amazing but I had no idea his work went far beyond LGDs (shows my lack of thinking!) I hope you may be able to point me to more reading. Thanks so much both of you! As a conessur of dog breeds and their tendencies, I love Bunny's interesting mix. I really see the more serious sheepdog in her when she stares and seems to be trying to will you to understand. I hope to see your breed descriptions! I once saw a doodle from German Shepherd, not sure of the name. He was similarly serious while my daughter's full poodle is much more light hearted.

I am a previous teacher for austic children. I am familiar with voice output devices. Also I have trained my 3rs service dog. My experience is children and dogs really hear the second word. For dog relationships we are really aware if our dogs behavior and their communication behaviors. The dog can be our best friend. We spend so much time with them. We put out life in their paws but we also know their life is in our hands .

@lindadapostrophe1714

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! I did obedience with an Irish Setter who thought it was a great game. If I wanted him to move, I said his name before the command. If I was about to give a command where he would remain in place, I would just say the command. I always started with my left leg if I wanted him to go with me and my right if I wanted him to stay. Eventually I gave no verbal commands. He loved this game so much that though he was free on 30 acres, he met me when I came out to play the game called "heel".

I’ve found your conversations very interesting. I’ve had a few rescue dogs and I’ve had to help them through their traumas. The basic thing I have learned is building trust with your dog so your dog knows you will step up and and take on a threat so they can get away if they want need to that they can. I don’t want a dog to only protect me, we have to protect each other. I teach people how to talk to dogs too as I be live the dog always makes the choice to interact. Thank you. May you all please take care and stay safe.

This was fascinating! I've always been a cat person, though I do love dogs (and all animals) but I found this so interesting. It also appeals to me because I've always felt that humans too much lean into the 'we're in control and we're all that matters' role. Viewing animals from Kim's perspective is a much better, kinder and more fulfilling approach. And will give dogs more enriching lives.

@lisacook1074

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the cats using the buttons

@rivercrow8988

2 жыл бұрын

@Lisa cook Cook Oh I'm subscribed! Love them!!

I'm not currently sharing my home with a pet and won't be able to while I stay at this address. Even so, this was a great video, Alexis, and I look forward to more of whatever you deem worthy to share! On another channel, there's a couple that shares their home with a rooster. I have mixed feelings about that but, putting that aside, wonder what the rooster would tell them if "Roo" had buttons. I'm sorry to say that animals are beginning to look so much more humane to me than many humans in 2022.

My mind is so overloaded I don’t even know what to comment except THANK YOU! So so much of what both of you shared really spoke to me and even validated thoughts I’ve had for years. Please please keep sharing what your learning because your helping so many of us learn along with you. My family thinks I’m obsessed with Bunny (and I am) but I really just can’t wait to find out what I’m going to get from your next posts. Like a kid with ice cream, I just want more! Ha.

@vivianagamez26

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way! Im so happy and overwhelmed with this video. I feel so thankful that Alexis shared this with us. She is really helping me in my journey of understanding dogs and my fur baby in particular. I really do think that this will change the way we look at nonhuman animals. There is a world of philosophical and ethical repercussions that I am so exited to explore.

Absolutely fascinating - thank you for sharing! Looking forward to future chats! 🙂

I had a Cat I treated the way you all speak of. He was my B.B. He taught himself to use the toiles. It totally freaked me out. I had located the litter box next to the toilet when I went to the restroom I first scooped poo.(clumping liter was not a thing yet) into the toilet. Of course, My B.B. would always be with me. I would do my business and flush. I woke up having to pee (alone in my apartment as far as I knew) I did not turn on any lights as I knew the way to the bathroom. As I approached I heard someone peeing. I quickly, fearing my heart should be heart faded to my bedroom and got my bat. (Very small apartment 2 steps) I flung open the bathroom door, flicked on the light, and held up the bat. My Beautiful B. B. looked at me like" excuse me little privacy" I said oh I'm sorry, turned the light off, shut the door to where it was, and went WTF. Also, cats pee very slow. If you are getting up at 2am it is because you really have to go. Thanks, B.B.

That was A very excellent discussion. I too have felt that animals deserve full respect as other beings that share this planet. 💖

I’m going to have to watch this again because there is so much to think about and unpack!

What a treat!!! I have listened to Meet Your Dog (Meet your Herding Dog!!) so many times. We brought home a collie puppy about 3 weeks ago after waiting for many years. Kim's book and Bunny's channel have opened my eyes in so many ways and I can appreciate my old collie mix from childhood even more now than ever before. I find the pressure of training significant, but really I just want him to feel safe and loved, explore the world and build trust in our relationship. How much is too much or how little is too little for training? Clearly my little pup needs to be trained to be safe in this human world, but I was so ready to train him on everything... until he came home. Now I find it really difficult to just make demands of him and set lofty expectations. Our bond and his safety are our top priorities. He's just incredible, and I want him to love his life. Thank you for normalizing talking to our dogs. My puppy understands so much. Definitely the Robin to my Batman😁 thank you!!

Instinctively I have felt this way for so long and to see it put into words and ideas is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your conversation and please do another video with Kim. My sheepdog/retriever has been a challenge and joy for me and watching you share your life with Bunny has helped me understand my dog so much better. And YES to the Tinder app for dogs.

Thanks for this video! I really appreciate you sharing your journey and introducing us to folks you’ve met along the way. It’s so helpful and insightful to learn about different approaches to understanding dog behavior. I hope you keep doing these interviews!

Fascinating!

Thank you for sharing this chat! Learning to cooperate with my dogs rather than dominate them rewards me with knowing their behavior is motivated or even inspired by their desire. It builds a relationship of mutual trust and respect. Dogs like Bunny are "way showers" as were Koko the gorilla, or Alex the African Grey parrot enlightening human/animal communication to a whole, new and wonderful realm.

Thank you so much!! I hope we get a lot more of this series!

Great interview!

Thank you for this conversation! I'm @giothestandard on IG and this was such an interesting chat between the two of you. I particularly appreciated your comment that when discovering force free training, you felt like it wasn't the whole picture - while I definitely support and want to encourage folks towards a more positive, force free approach, sometimes I think we oversimplify it in the name of trying to convince others to use it, and I think it's harder than some folks want to admit. To do it well, it does require relearning a lot of things we thought we understood about dogs, and incorporating the whole picture of behavior that Kim Brophey talks about in her LEGS model. I also was intrigued by her comments about living with dogs generations ago, before formal dog training - that even if the methods weren’t the kindest, dogs had clarity and knew what to expect from people. It makes some sense then why people might try to dabble in force free/ positive reinforcement based training, not necessarily get the whole picture of behavior, and then try balanced/more aversive based training and their dogs seem happier - probably because the dog had clarity it didn’t have before, even if there are downfalls to that kind of training. I’m grateful we’re talking more about the whole picture of dog behavior and how to have a positive relationship with our dogs beyond just rewarding what we want and ignoring what we don’t. Also, LOVED the conversation about Tinder for dog-human relationships! Maybe because I’ve always loved purebred dogs and nerding out about different breeds, I’ve always had a sense of "you should research different kinds of dogs and get one that fits your lifestyle". However it’s always been hard to find a good resource to point people towards that is informative and helpful for folks starting at square one. I think Kim’s book is a great step in the right direction, and an educational tool would be amazing! Thanks again for this chat.

This is terrific. And, of course, I love Bunny (and Otter) so freaking much. 💜🐩💜🐕💜

I know people who have used this paradigm for a very long time with dogs and birds. We listen, look and interact with what we have in common. My Wolf dog decided to wake me up from my nightmares and I asked him if we should walk or play, even at two AM. His body language was very clear in meaning. I've watched birds ask me questions with words in new combinations and body reactions-and expect answers from me. I watched my crow and dog cooperate in ah... manipulating me and playing jokes on me. I learned to pay attention to what they were trying to tell me and respond accordingly.

Great chat BTW!!! I loved every second of it!! Now for crying out loud!!!! Take Buns to the beach!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!

This was THE best!!! Thank you!!! You two ladies and your amazing personalities really got me engaged listening to this entire interview and the funny part is..... I don't even have a dog! LOL It was just super eye opening! And yes please do the Tinder version for dog breeds! I would read through that Tinder app for hours of entertainment.... Again I don't even have a dog! But it would be super funny to read through and spot on with you two ladies writing it! Thanks again and can't hardly wait for your next interview on your KZread channel!

Thanks for sharing this. So many people forget that dogs & dolphins easily learn understand and respond to our human language, but humans have yet to understand dog or dolphin language. Would you consider having a live interview with Bunny so we can ask her questions?

This was fantastic thanks

Thank you for explaining layout of buttons and pods. The little bulb above my head finally lit up. lol

This was so fascinating, and so validating to what I've felt about dogs for so long! I hope we get to hear more of your conversations!

Good video tyvm

My puppy is pressing All done Sound as I’m watching 😆

W o w. SO Important

To Kim- If you can teach an aggressive dog the buttons that he needs to express why he wants to kill another dog or human and have him feel better about it then I’ll really be impressed. It’s not about dominance and superiority, it’s about leadership and structure so they feel safe and not feel like they have to handle bad situations on their own.

I would like to know what Ms. Brophey has to say about good working teams of service dogs and handlers

Thank you for this talk. I was always better with animals then with humans. And especially animals with traumatic pasts that got snappy etc bondet to me very fast. In my family and friens circles I#m always handled as the strange one because i insist on learning the language of the pets i own befor purchasing it. I talk to my cats a lot and did so with my dogs, too. even my headgehogs when i had some. It's so important to communicate both ways. like slow blink back to your cat plus say 'love you' so they know that you mean when you say it without remembering to use your cat voice at the same time etc. Every animal developes a language only to communicate with you. trying to meet half way should be normal. I know most times what my pets want to tell me by the way they use their voice because i watched them carefully. when do they use wich pitch of voice? by that i already discovered one of my cats has nightmares from time to time. she tends to wake up from them, has a specific way of a mew then and comes directly over to me so sit on my lap and be comfortly sqeezed and rocked from side to side then. It's so sad that so many people don't feel the need to even try to communicate both ways. They tell you soooo much if you let them. Started training for buttons with my both cats today. they got the target easyly since they already teached themselfs a variation from it. touch my fingertip with their nose because i never boob them completly they always do the last few mm. so they started to boob themselfes everytime i point somewhere. so they even are able to sit nicely by that gesture XD

I've always wanted to hear more about what you two talk at 16:00, what is the kind of prejudice that comes with being a pioneer in this field?

Otter is so huge. I have been around a male Poodle but Otter seems big.

@BeingLifted

2 жыл бұрын

I think both dogs are sheepadoodles.

Some years ago I had the idea to use cards with simple geometric shapes to connect events. E.g. to point out consequences. Say the dog does something stupid and later is miserable.

What happened to uni?

@sundoesshine8800

2 жыл бұрын

Uni went missing. Bunny inquired about her after a long while, was sad.

My god that was a huge spider D:

Hi

Yes , our pets are supposed to be family , not a submissive slaves .

hah it's so funny hearing someone say out loud how bullshit the normal SUPERIOR HUMAN dominant relationship thing is. I grew up in the White Mountain National Forest. My parents had no idea what they were doing and I was basically by myself. I can't fault them for that because I think they really did try their best. So sometimes I would go out to explore the forest and talk to the animals. I can't even talk about it with other people because they just think I'm fucking nuts for saying I went swimming with a bear in the summer or play wrestled with a bobcat as a kid. It's just so far out of their sphere of reality that they can't even accept it happening. It's so frustrating having that experience and having people think I'm insane or lying if I ever try to talk about it.

@jeffffro7674

2 жыл бұрын

I know exactly how you feel!!!! I love all animals, and they work on vibrational energy mostly for communication. If you come across wild animals and have NOTHING but curious, caring and positive intentions towards them, they are immediately curious about you as well!!! WE ARE NOT FOOD!!!! They all know and understand this, of course they could eat us, but it's not natural!!! Have you ever seen polar bear on a menu anywhere? It's not natural!!! They have very little ill intent for us, it's mostly curiosity I would have given anything to have been your neighbor growing up and I would have been right there with you playing with the wildlife!!!! You are truly blessed to have these memories and WHO CARES if anyone else believes them but you, that will never take them away from you, you lucky duck!!!!

I wonder if she finds service dogs unethical to the dog because of the view of an ESA? I always find it strange when people look at me strangely for talking to my dogs. Of course they talk back and answer questions.

Why do you always wear a cap?

Who doesn't talk to the dog? If you expect the dog to talk back, then you are crazy. (Although my aunt's dog did talk back which I found rather insulting.)

@jeffffro7674

2 жыл бұрын

Bunny most DEFINITELY talks back with her!!!! Have you watched any of her vids???!!!?! Bunny was able to tell her about her dreams!!! She told mom what, when AND where she was hurting and the two of them were able to fix it easily!!! It's absolutely amazing and I, for one, am totally convinced that these animals are almost if AS smart as we are!!! Maybe even more so because we concern ourselves with so much crap that has nothing to do with living a happy and healthy life!!! Humans do A LOT of stooooopid stuff!!!! Drugs, ridiculous cars costing more than 5 homes, invading Ukraine!!!!! Now, you wanna tell me which is the more intelligent species?

Jesus is the only way humbly ask him he will answer

38:00 I love to see two women agree that personality is not all about trauma and upbringing. Now if only women could to the same in the context of humans.

Thank you so very much for letting us in on this conversation! One thing I have noticed throughout my seventy years plus life with dogs, is that they are better at “reading” us than we are are of them. Making me wonder who is actually more intelligent…..