Interview with Don Carveth on "Sleeping Gods" podcast.

How I found psychoanalysis and eventually became a psychoanalyst. The Oedipus complex and assorted issues.

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  • @mcarthur4life39
    @mcarthur4life393 жыл бұрын

    I never took university seriously but my absolute favorite course was with Dr Carveth at Glendon College. Having a Christian upbringing and going to church as a child, then also going through high school with the readings of Richard Dawkin's; I was a very confused young adult. I took some sociology courses but Donald's course where we studied Berger's "the sacret canopy" and its application to every day life/culture was truly the only course I can say profoundly affected my soul and outlook. He didnt just come in and teach. He was one of a few professors I remember going on 32yo of age. His course helped me grow into adulthood. His syllabus was taught using the concepts and terminology of the author's work but he didn't necessarily spell it out for us (I believe this is why many failed). We has to apply ourselves to the material in order to pass. I had no clue how to interpret the course material or the notes I took until I applied it in the final essay to the movie I selected (after completing the essay I didn't truly understand that those same concepts could be applied to every single movie/novel/ tv series or life itself). When I did, I had something valuable, that stuck with me for life; I knew it in and out. Still, to this day, I think about what I learned in that course because I can apply those concepts naturally. Honestly, a great professor and amazing human. I hope that culturally, Dr Carveth's channel is embraced and he becomes as important to people as Jodan Peterson has been in the lives of others. Good shit.

  • @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is awesome. Thank you for sharing this. Would you have a specific book recommendation that really stuck with you? I've had similar thoughts re: Dr Caverth's cultural relevance versus Dr Peterson's. I've wondered if converting his videos into podcast form would help to get his work out there. What do you think?

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, a former student. That means a lot to me! Thank you so much and all the best.

  • @mcarthur4life39

    @mcarthur4life39

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thesleepinggodspodcast3136 Nothing specific to recommend but agree a podcast format such as this is great. Sadly, to reach a wider audience today he needs to be more like a KZreadr/Content creator than a professor. Or be involved in some form of "social justice" controversy otherwise; this is why Dr. Peterson truly is known. Most importantly though, could someone get this man a quality camera so at least when he passes his videos are archived in HD? Lol

  • @thesleepinggodspodcast3136
    @thesleepinggodspodcast31363 жыл бұрын

    Was a pleasure chatting with you. Looking forward to round two 🙂 - Aodhán

  • @heidimorrison1885

    @heidimorrison1885

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great interview Aodhan...and good to hear Dr DC story and insight.. Thank you!

  • @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@heidimorrison1885 Glad to hear you enjoyed!

  • @jiminy_cricket777

    @jiminy_cricket777

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for doing this! I've subscribed to your channel already and I'm looking forward to listening to more of your work when I have some time to do so. Your accent really agrees with my ears too, and the sound quality is great.

  • @JM-xk3xs
    @JM-xk3xs3 жыл бұрын

    Always great to hear real life ordinary examples of some of the complex concepts, and always great to listen to Don Carveth. Thank you.

  • @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hear ya - Don has an engaging way of bridging the gap between theory and practice.

  • @doncarveth
    @doncarveth3 жыл бұрын

    Sleeping Gods Podcast: twitter.com/sleepinggodspod

  • @taifmuhammed9144
    @taifmuhammed91443 жыл бұрын

    great to hear from you again Dr. Carveth.

  • @kevinreside6358
    @kevinreside63583 жыл бұрын

    What a cool guy! After I graduate from York University this summer I am off to study psychoanalytic theory in England. I wish that there was a bigger psychoanalytic presence at York and in Toronto. It is a shame I'm only hearing about this man now. Dope interview, thank you for sharing!

  • @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wishing you the very best with your studies man. Lived in Toronto last year before moving back to Ireland in August-a pity to have missed you. Let us know how the path unfolds.

  • @elnazyaghoobi8426
    @elnazyaghoobi84263 жыл бұрын

    Dear Dr.Carveth It was great as always. Each time I learn more and more from you.

  • @davidnjohn
    @davidnjohn9 ай бұрын

    A Tour de Force! Thank you gentlemen.

  • @xverxverxverga
    @xverxverxverga3 жыл бұрын

    A healer. I’ll end this day thinking in this beautiful and heroic word. Thank you Dr.

  • @davidnjohn

    @davidnjohn

    9 ай бұрын

    I think that’s called the Paranoid Schizoid position. Idealisation is a feature of it.

  • @xverxverxverga

    @xverxverxverga

    9 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@davidnjohnthe healer is an admirable and desirable symbol by it self. But jumping into conversations just to make hostile comments; that would be just a schizo paranoid positioned fighting for its own integration.

  • @davidnjohn

    @davidnjohn

    9 ай бұрын

    I think your assuming it was an attack is another example of paranoid Schizoid functioning. Carveth seems to be saying that the PS Position is a part of normality not a sign of weakness. But he knows when he’s in it.

  • @xverxverxverga

    @xverxverxverga

    9 ай бұрын

    @@davidnjohn any interpretation without a context it’s an aggression. Now that you are so much into getting attention, I can guess what could bother you the most.

  • @davidnjohn

    @davidnjohn

    9 ай бұрын

    Saying something is PS cannot constitute an interpretation because there’s not a suggestion of why you are operating within it. I think Idealisation is very common in our positivist culture and is irksome to me because of its ubiquity and the lack of a capacity for complexity and comprehension it denotes.

  • @dietmarhornung6938
    @dietmarhornung69383 жыл бұрын

    I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation... thank you both!

  • @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    @thesleepinggodspodcast3136

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it Dietmar. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Subscribe to the channel if you'd like more content in this realm-would be great to see you over there. :-)

  • @osrtapes
    @osrtapes3 жыл бұрын

    this was great -- thank you. I have a special request: a video of practical advice for would-be psychoanalysts, especially those who want to pursue training via a non-medical route -- if you would find that interesting to speak about!

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good suggestion, thanks

  • @jiminy_cricket777
    @jiminy_cricket7773 жыл бұрын

    Don, re: Abraham and Isaac and Kierkegaard, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Derrida's book The Gift of Death if you've read it and you have anything you'd want to say about it. I've been meaning to ask you about this for a while. I realize it's a bit off topic from psychoanalysis but Derrida does make reference to quite a few psychoanalytic concepts in the book so I thought it might still be relevant. Also, a very interesting interview, thank you for doing this and sharing your knowledge and experience. Aodhan's podcast looks quite interesting also, so thank you both.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to read the Dura Dura book but as you may know I am legally blind and so books have to be in digital form so my app can read them aloud to me. If you send me a digital version if you can find one I will read it and perhaps comment. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @jiminy_cricket777

    @jiminy_cricket777

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@doncarveth Okay, great, I will pass that along by email within the next week. It really seems to be up your alley, so to speak, which is why I was hoping you'd read it already. It seems like quite an undertaking to read through 4 essays by Derrida using text to speech, he is not an easy read even when one has the benefit of sight, so I appreciate your willingness to consider my question. Unlike Lacan, though, Derrida seems to play with the reader's desire to understand in a way that illuminates something about the process of understanding, or the desire to understand, rather than trying to make the reader feel stupid. So at least his obscurantism seems to have a salutary aim rather than a sadistic one. Anyway, thank you again for your interest in my question.

  • @AndreyShcherbakov1
    @AndreyShcherbakov13 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Carveth, thanks a lot for a great talk! You've mentioned Otto Kernberg a couple of times. What's your opinion on his Transference-Focused Psychotherapy (TFP)? I'd love to hear you on this topic. Thanks again!

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like Greenberg a lot but I don’t know why he dispensers with the couch inTFT or why he felt the need to give it a brand name. It’s slightly modified psychoanalytic approach for borderlines. But then I do not work well with borderlines. I don’t like frame attackers. I don’t have the patience to work with that very well. So I don’t think I’m the best person to really comment on TFT. Thanks

  • @jftierdor4605
    @jftierdor46053 жыл бұрын

    If i may, there are two topics in particular on which i would like to hear you elaborate one time or another. -- 1° In this interview, you said if i remember correctly : there is also something good in the schizoid-paranoid position. - Obivously, this good thing is not that, in that position, we are prone to illusions. So what would be the good thing? You said : "Passion." Would it be that we feel compelled to react to the world, whereas in the depressive position we barely feel concerned by what happens? Then is it possible to separate this feeling of being involved from the capture by illusions? can we feel concerned by reality? -- 2° About "Dreams Fantasies Awakening" : the common sense is "If we dream, it is because we can't bear reality as it is : dreams, daytime reveries are a very powerful way to escape reality, but very fleetingly." How does the thesis (that you endorse) that "what we call real is a open-eyed fantasy" rework this common sense's point of view? Why do we dream? What makes reality difficult to bear? Is it because we imagine in the first place the real as something "nightmarish" ? --- That would be great to hear your thoughts about this. Anyway, "dreams fantasies awakening" sounds like a great subject.

  • @gerrymanrique9395
    @gerrymanrique93953 жыл бұрын

    Hello Dr. Carveth. Gerry from Dearborn, MI. We were looking forward to your lecture at the Michigan Psychoanalytic Institute last year but unfortunately COVID struck. I was wondering if you would be interested in leading a 90 minute supervision at our clinic (zoom of course) in the future.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Gerry, yes, I was looking forward to the conference and I hope one day it may still take place. Yes, I would be interested in doing that supervision. Feel free to email me to make plans: dcarveth@gmail.com

  • @gerrymanrique9395

    @gerrymanrique9395

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@doncarveth Thank you Dr. Carveth. I’ll make the arrangements.

  • @mirandawrites5151
    @mirandawrites51513 жыл бұрын

    Ideas for: Prisons to community.

  • @richardprice9730
    @richardprice97303 жыл бұрын

    Sleep gone , how many times can a "man" be broken Don, for a man its all about ......kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZHWBr8Ryc8y5k6w.html The something strange comes up form deep like a whale , like luminosity , some call "it" God" , others use more prosaic terminology , "consciousness - Awareness" me i just want to catch a glimpse again of that mythical beast, for stamped somewhere in me ,, it calls .... If I don't follow if I don't lower my head and listen , She is gone , too late the dry walls and intyeelectual citadels will never tempt her , She is free. go well

  • @richardprice9730
    @richardprice97303 жыл бұрын

    21:00 I do not mean to be disrespect full Don but there seems a lot of confusion in what you're saying Christianity from perhaps a very immature or spiritually naive perspective might well see God as irrational but for me God and Divine Intelligence are so far beyond our limited small minded intellectual reasoned ( self justifying) perspective as to be totally different , God was saying perhaps and this is equally inadequate are you prepared to sacrifice someone so dear to you for "this", the stakes were very high , as St John might say our love for creatures delimits , distorts our love for God or even prevents us from loving God , the two are often opposed. Also i cannot still but think , the recourse to dumbing down psychoanalysis and your lenghty autobiographical picture making might be seen as a form of defense , is this is what you want us to believe to take our attention away from something else , whatever this or that is Don , it i all seems to pat too pre conceived or packaged for my liking .

  • @SylvanTheSage
    @SylvanTheSage Жыл бұрын

    While I agree with your views about the oedipal complex, that we win the mother by finding a woman of our own, I disagree that the oedipal complex is a necessary part of development. Other primates are not monogamous. We need to capture the mother, manipulate her, isolate her, have an omnipotent control over her and have her all to ourself because we did not have her all to ourself during the critical time when the baby's brain was developing. This is the narcissistic wound. Then we project into her our intolerable emotional states and inferiorities as a baby does with a mother because babies require an external source of emotional regulation. See Allan Schore and his research into right hemisphere synchronization and brain development during the critical first two years. This is what causes narcissism and emotional dysregulation. This is why we compensate for our vulnerability with a superiority complex, have a lack of empathy and remain infantile, self-centered and forever seeking attention, admiration and narcissistic supply (love).

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    Жыл бұрын

    I did not say that narcissistic disorders are the inevitable result of the Oedipus complex, only that the Oedipus complex is universal and inevitable. We all suffer that trauma to varying degrees and some may respond with a narcissistic disorder but some do not.

  • @SylvanTheSage

    @SylvanTheSage

    Жыл бұрын

    @@doncarvethIt is me that is postulating that narcissistic disorders are the consequence of an oedipal conflict. It occurred to me during a meditation that the father is the dragon who steals the princess, as you stated, and that I still have an immense amount of oedipal hatred toward him. You could very well be right that it is inevitable but could it be the result of a twisted sort of sibling rivalry with the narcissistic, infantile father for the mother's love? Could it be avoided? Do chimpanzees develop an oedipal complex? Perhaps this is a normal conflict but is exacerbated by narcissistic parents, inconsistent contact with the mother, a lack of object constancy, a chronic rupturing of the attachment bond, a lack of initiatory rites into adulthood that involve separation from the mother, and instead living at home well beyond puberty like a child instead of going off to live with your own mate. The child feels cuckolded by the mother and is forced to bow down and serve this monster that prevents access to the mother. This oedipal aggression must be repressed and turned toward the self, causing depression, self-hatred. This is psychopathology and this is why I am pathologizing the oedipal complex. Perhaps the nuclear family is to blame, perhaps because physical walls were built into the family home and these walls symbolize emotional walls that began to be constructed between mother and child. The child is no longer allowed to sleep next to the mother, she is dragged into the underworld and every night is like winter.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    Жыл бұрын

    All those factors exacerbate what is nevertheless a universal and inevitable problem.

  • @doncarveth

    @doncarveth

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SylvanTheSage I can’t claim to know about chimpanzees but I feel I do know something about the human condition and I think we all attach to a primary caretaker and we want her/him all to ourselves. All those other factors you list may will exacerbate the problem, but the problem will be there anyway.

  • @SylvanTheSage

    @SylvanTheSage

    Жыл бұрын

    @@doncarveth I am beginning to agree with you. It does seem inevitable no matter how I try to wrap my head around it. This complex has to do with the mother mating while the child is still dependent upon her care. I think it must come down to the extended length of time that primate offspring are dependent upon the mother. Most mammals would be on their own and mating after the natural birth spacing period in which the mother does not mate. For chimp mothers this period lasts 3-4 years, during which time they do not mate. Human mother's mate and sleep with males during this period.