Would it be fair to say that they can make great surround speakers?

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@avh700, I don't think the woofers alone would be sufficient. I do think the system would still need a tweeter to help with the 10Khz plus range. These woofers do reproduce sounds up to 10Khz. But, if you had anything higher that you needed to reproduce, you'd need to add a tweeter. The clarity of the woofers does diminish the higher the sound being reproduced as well. They are capable of producing high tones, but it is not their intention. The cool thing about the fact that they can though is that it shows just how quickly the drivers can react, and that this prototype can keep up with the main speakers. Meaning, nothing would be lacking behind and be out of sync as far as the music or movie goes. The argument is that traditional subwoofers can be slow. For example, if you have a large subwoofer that can reproduce very low tones, going down to 20hz, the cone is larger and it takes more for the cone to move the air pressure in the room. A smaller subwoofer can react a lot more quickly, but will not get down to 20hz. Magnepan is making it happen by using multiple, medium sized cones that work together to create the dynamic range that allows them to get low enough, but also be quick enough, proven by the fact they can reproduce a drum's inner girth as well as its cymbals. ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle

@avh700

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for an awesome response!

@frederf69

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAudioBelle Good video, thanks. I have a small SW; a Kef kc62 & it goes way below 20 hz. I've been thinking about getting a pair of Maggies to go with it + my Schiit Vidar. Wonder if that'd be a good match?

I went to school with Tim, all of my audio has come from him. I first heard Magnepan's when they first came out at his old store. Miss that place as it was always heaven when I walked in.

Love this. I remember the days when I would stroll into Pacific Stereo and marvel at the latest McIntosh gear, miss that! Now, about these Woof-fer’s, yes, it’s woof-fers, not vufers… Lol, it's all good and these are impressive!

Great Talk! 🔊Thank you sooo much Audio Bell 🔔.

Love your channel..keep up the great work.

Yea! 👍 This and Seattle have been great highlights lately.

Dad was about the fifth or so first Magneplanar/Magnepan dealers. Loved those speakers way back when!

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@robertheath9019, That’s so cool! What was the name of your dad’s establishment ? --Cynthia, The Audio Belle

@robertheath9019

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAudioBelle Paul Heath Audio in Rochester NY

I have been a Maggie owner most of my life.These Wendell induced commercials never cease to amaze me, no demo, tons of claims, no release date, no cost estimate. In short a complete waste of time.

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@54tristin, Wendell's explanation to me was that he is trying to be the John the Baptist of these prototypes, paving the way for them. I do see it both ways. And for the most part, my opinion is, why talk about it if there is no price or release date? It feels like a tease. But I also see the benefit of doing trials to gauge customer feedback to improve a prototype before releasing it, if it's positioned that way. It's just...this has been a prototype since 2019 from what I've read on forums. ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle

The whole presentation was simply incredible. The Japanese Drums had me at the feeling that I could not just hear, but feel the skins vibrating. So, I knew I was in for a treat and was not shocked those yes very surprised art the 20-10000 K Frequency range. I don't think you'd need an LS17 etc some dipole Mid / Treble would work especially well.

Nice work, Cynthia! Also, congrats on your wedding!

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@redstarwraith, Thank you!! ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle

It would seem one will have to use the DSP correction for the entire bandwidth including the main speakers - not just the subs. This is due to the total signal delay through the DSP processing, which can be as low as a few msec but usually more. Studio musicians and many listeners will be able to detect this delay between DSP corrected woofers and direct main speakers. So an additional AD and DA conversion in the audio chain is unavoidable.

This is excellent information and a fun presentation. I would have liked to look at the sub drivers. If they are just using cones etc, then you might be able to achieve similar effects using any number of audiophile-grade subs. A high-speed dipole sub like the Linkwitz lxsub2 would probably work and would run somewhere around $1100 for two including DSP.

Been a subscriber since you started your channel after seeing you on Steve guttenberg keep up the good work young lady

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@mzondi1970, Thank you so much! --Cynthia, The Audio Belle

Been waiting for these for my horn loaded speakers. Hoping this would augment better than box subs. Hopefully it’s not all reserved and voice just for Maggie’s though I wouldn’t blame them if it were.

Dang, that woofer tower is super cool! I’ll be interested to see what the price point is. I’d love to try some LRS’ but was always hesitant considering both the power requirements and lack of bass.

Contraption. "They are quite elegant" LOL

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

😁

It's sad to hear him say that Audio stores are not coming back.Its a gamble to buy on line...and a bit of a hassle because you have to shop for the best price.To bad it we can't have Audio stores again..a crying shame. Where I live we have a Audio store but he will probably be retiring soon.Audio Belle keep up the great work.ps Have yet to hear these speakers 🔊.

@jvburnes

Жыл бұрын

I think it's just distribution economics. It's cheaper to pay for the shipping and return overhead, chat over the internet and probably run a few audio club demos than it is to maintain an entire dealer relationship + local taxes, overhead, commissions etc.

What dsp hardware was used in the demo?

Fun and Informative content as usual Cynthia, keep up the Great Videos.. What would a good estimate be as to when these Woofers will be avaliable to the public? I suppose Prototype does not necessarily mean that it will go into full production....well lets hope their is enough interest that it will.....

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

Pete, Not sure exactly how long they will be in the prototype stage! When I asked what the price would be, Wendell said it is in too early of a stage to think about the price. I hope soon, but it sounds like it may be a bit. --Cynthia, The Audio Belle

You know it's amazing to me that you don't have more subscribers than you do. And I would assume that you would because you were originally affiliated and correct me if I'm wrong but with Steve guttenberg. Anyway I certainly wish you the best of luck creating content and I will admit it's quite refreshing to have a feminine point of view when hearing news on some of my favorite audio brands

@TheAudioBelle

2 жыл бұрын

@Amb, I appreciate that! I think video consistency is a big part of it, along with people promoting the channel. The more content produced, the more likely people are going to see the channel. People that promote the channel through word of mouth, and through other KZread channels is key as well. Hopefully in time the channel will grow larger as both of these things happen. ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle

@AustinTxJimmy

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAudioBelle Magnepan owner for over 20 years and Schiit owner for about 9. Found your videos shared on Reddit while trying to investigate people who had tried the Schiit Tyrs. You've got a new subscriber now based on the content of these videos. Cheers!

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

AustinTxJimmy, I had no idea one of my videos was posted on Reddit! Just found it this evening. So glad you found the channel and hope you enjoy these videos. :) --Cynthia, TheAudioBelle

Any news? Its been a year and still no product for sale

I've been wanting to add subs to my 3.7s but really don't have the room for conventional subs nor did I look forward to trying to integrate them with the panels. These look like they may solve both issues nicely. Hopefully they aren't too expensive.

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@Chris Dinsmore, I'm also hoping they aren't too pricy because I want a pair as well haha. ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle

@peng7865

Жыл бұрын

Hi Chris I'm probably the only one in the whole world who doesn't need a subwoofer, I have the 2.7 and it runs with ease up to 25Hz, the problem is light on most amplifiers is my experience now. And I'm talking about the frequency range, Most amps taper off early and also taper off in the low frequencies. Against this, most loudspeakers have an amplification in the low end after 40 Hz by means of bass reflex or, transmission line. My tip is to borrow an Electrocompaniet amplifier somewhere, because it runs all the way through the entire layer and is extremely musical. because Magnepan is very neutral and needs such a sounding amplifier. A world will open up for you because that layer gives a lot of information between all the instruments that you have never heard before. And these differences are absolutely NOT available through a subwoofer, everything sounds a bit bassy and there are NO differences to be recognized from instruments that play in such a low range.

Can these be purchased anywhere? Or is this just an engineering exercise?

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@zardoz2627, Nope, it’s a prototype. I did not realize when covering the product that it had already been shown a few times a couple years back. But I believe at this point Wendell is trying to do some focus groups to gauge consumer feedback before Magnepan goes RTS with it. I keep bugging Wendell for a price and ETA in hopes that the “persistent widow” scenario will work out lol. --Cynthia, The Audio Belle

When can we buy this new Magnepan Woofer?

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

Moon BTC, I wish I knew. --Cynthia, The Audio Belle

When listening to Maggies sit on the floor. You will have bass and it will sound a lot better

Maggie's are hands down the BEST speaker you could get ROOM INCLUDED under 3k. Still need high current class A for them to sing, but ONE has something to build on, the new stands are genius. I'm sure " the contraption" is genuis. I don't know how I learned that, Maggie's need low end and mid band to wake up the highs of the LRS or MMG. And YES low end MUST have attack. Gets complicated for sure... alot of guys TRI amp these. But really nice to see these new triangle things. 🔺️

@TrueStereo-

Жыл бұрын

How can you tri or bi amp and LRS? That would solve my problems.

@WardDorrity

Жыл бұрын

After many years of ups and downs, my "last dance" speakers are Magnepan 3.7i s on Mye Engineering stands. I ran them for a couple of years with an Audio Research DSi200 integrated amp. With this combo, there seemed to be something missing. Somehow, they lacked the body and the richness that I had come to expect, especially with ARC gear. So after a bit of research, I opted for a used Bel Canto PRE-1 and a Bel Canto REF500S. Wow! The Magnepans came alive. They now had the body and the organic presence that I expected, along with their usual transparency and disappearing act. And with the Bel Canto hear, they were finally delivering decent low end. Now I'm intrigued by what I'm hearing about in this video.

@jvburnes

Жыл бұрын

They don't need class A. You can run them with high quality Hypex or Purifi class D just fine. Dual mono Hypex nc400s are 400 wpc into 4 ohms. If you can build a simple PC you could build these yourself for around $1100 a pair.

But he is not saying the LRS+ is the best sounding speakers they make….

Ridiculous. Dinosaur days are over. I can't bring my new stereo to you, but you are welcome to come here and audition. Guaranteed to sound as good in your house as it does in the showroom. Satisfaction money-back guaranteed.

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

Sam Greer, I cannot make sense of your comment, sorry. --Cynthia, The Audio Belle

@samgreer8596

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAudioBelle It means the days of "Guess and swap" are over. Now you don't have to spend your life buying and swapping components always to be left disappointed and looking to swap some other component. Manufacturers and retailers love this. Unfortunately, it's not what you $blow$, it's what you know that makes your system sound audiophile excellent. I have a turnkey solution that sounds as great in your house as it does when you audition it. Guaranteed. If you're in FL and you want to audition LMK. Judge for yourself.

Respectfully low distortion extended range woofers that will play full range that are phase coherent in blending with ultra fast planars or electrostatics are nothing new and DSP was not needed.

@roberthart9886

Жыл бұрын

A long long time ago I had 3.5Rs I tried everything; dual SVS subs, biamp, active XOs, but like most Maggie owners, I could never get the subs to integrate seamlessly. Eventually, I got a pair of Emerald Physics 3.4s and with just a few exceptions, have all the bass needed, sans DSP

It's so qute how she says woofer

Don’t be fooled by this. A woofer is a woofer. The wheel didn’t get just reinvented.

@TheDanEdwards

Жыл бұрын

" A woofer is a woofer." - no. Most woofers are not dipoles. This new Maggie woofer is a dipole.

sorry , i don't see anything or hear anything , who is this girl . and what point of this video

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

Michael, Sorry, the grammar in your sentence is making it tough to understand what you are trying to say. ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle

All this tantalizing talk about the Magnepan woofer BUT YOU ARE NOT SHOWING IT! It's hiding near the LRS+ somewhere is all I know.

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

Ron Levine, It’s at the end of the video. (: --Cynthia, The Audio Belle

@ronlevine8873

Жыл бұрын

OK. It’s what they were calling “a contraption.” Small indeed. They need to get the camera behind the LRS+ to better show it,

What a disaster of an interview. OMG. WHAT is the product? WHERE is the product? WHY is it better? HOW Does it create a value proposition for prospective customers? In, other words, what problem does it solve my current speakers don’t? What are it’s specifications? How does it integrate? What are the specs for the amplifier required to drive it? Ay, me. The Audio Belle would do well to learn how to conduct a succinct and informative interview.

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@stephenscharf6293, I mean, I'll take that feedback. :) So long as I can expect you to continue providing honest feedback like you did, should you be interested in giving it on future videos. There are multiple videos that talk about the Magnepan woofers on my channel. This was a video that took place after I had gone over it. But that does give me the idea to link to said video or videos in the current, present video. That way, should someone not have watched my channel before, they can get an idea of where to start. ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle

Wendell seems like a nice guy but every person who interviews him or every presentation he makes is a bit meandering and long-winded. This is just like the “30.7 for Condos” tour-lots of talking to get to any detail.

@TheAudioBelle

Жыл бұрын

@jasonbkau, Yep lol. I love him to death, but I do agree. I’ve said similar things to him too. --Cynthia, The Audio Belle

Pretty waste of time no description of the product just unproductive chit chat