The steamdeck really shook the industry damn

@briana.obenhaus4548

5 ай бұрын

All night long.

@EduardoVasquezMedina

5 ай бұрын

Without the Switch the Steam Deck wouldn't exist. Just saying,

@TheCompyshop

5 ай бұрын

@@EduardoVasquezMedina I honestly don't know if I agree with that. Valve has been wanting to make steam accessible in more portable ways for years. The switch was also not the first handheld, not by a long shot. We had multiple generations of PSP, gameboys, the Sega Game Gear etc etc

@ko7gaming470

5 ай бұрын

The deck has been in R&D for 10 yrs prior to release they aint do shit valve was allways headed in that space nintendo just capitalized on there mobile presence they didnt reinvent the mobile space they defined it for years.. but valve they reinvented a whole new market

@maciller8461

5 ай бұрын

@@EduardoVasquezMedinathe switch crawled so that all these handhelds could walk

Good to see the psp is making a comeback in a different form

@FlyingCIRCU175

5 ай бұрын

meanwhile Sony's thing is a game stream-only shitter, ironic coming from them

@emin62bek

5 ай бұрын

I hear ya ​@@FlyingCIRCU175

@lebagnard6018

5 ай бұрын

Damn if only they could release a new psp

@OblivionPrime

5 ай бұрын

@@user-zn5xf6ty9q or GPD win 4 (psp go)

@HueCodes

5 ай бұрын

Sony Should joining on this

So I love that companies are making dedicated mobile gaming handhelds again. I remember missing the days of Gameboys and I'm like "Oh they stopped making stuff like that because a lot of games moved to become apps and work with phones now" (except for the Switch). And now they're trying out mobile handhelds again and it's really cool.

@TheMadTitan07

5 ай бұрын

Seeing this makes me excited for the future competition fuels innovation.

@NoradNoxtus

5 ай бұрын

It's really the chip becoming small enough now to allow non-trivial games to run on a lower wattage. We can all thank the Switch and Steam deck for it 😊

@rosaria8384

5 ай бұрын

I wish Playstation gets their act together with this development. Like an actual PSP with PS5 features and hardware

@Ben-io2vo

5 ай бұрын

​@@rosaria8384instead they make psportal which no one asked for

@shahangilani

5 ай бұрын

@@NoradNoxtus still one thing is missing from these handhelds that is arm chips Arm chips are perfect for these handhelds and will perform way better than the current x86 chips but everything is in the hands of microsoft to make windows for arm just like apple made mac for m devices and shook the pc market

First one to have hands on with Ally and now with the Claw. Thanks Dave.

@stankozniewski9385

5 ай бұрын

And i believe he was the first with lenovo legion go

@DirtyHardSock

5 ай бұрын

Actually I've had the MSI claw for around two months now. I am a Gamma tester for Wonton Tech International Inc.

@thejoker-bi4es

5 ай бұрын

​@@DirtyHardSock Can you give me an opinion for the claw. I have steam deck i want to sell because it cant play online games and wanted to buy rog ally. Should i wait for the claw?

@Dark.Syndicate

5 ай бұрын

i dont think that's a real company@@DirtyHardSock

@Marta1Buck

5 ай бұрын

​@@Dark.Syndicatedude, don't burst his bubble like that

Glad to see more innovation and competition in this market sector. Keep going guys.

Now we need Microsoft to work on handheld mode on windows. The problem with all the windows handheld device is that they feel weird to navigate the UI. Maybe something similar with the Xbox's but for windows

@grtninja

5 ай бұрын

You literally just described Windows 8! Frankenstein of Windows/Windows Mobile and xbox home screen. Have fun with tiles and start screen. Please don't ruin these new devices by necroing that OS.

@paulanderson929

5 ай бұрын

Yes agreed

@alphamineron

5 ай бұрын

literally NO. Linux is far superior, and already powers the entire industry. The only pro-consumer move is to kick Microsoft out of their OS monopoly and use open solutions like the SteamOS

@aeidolone

5 ай бұрын

Fully agree!

@dzikrimahfud2090

5 ай бұрын

steam os is literally the answer (for now)

Yes, yes!!! Glad to see more competition in this handheld PC space. Going to hopefully push everyone to innovate and improve their devices.

The way Dave says button (6:03) scratches a part of my brain that I didn't know I had

@TanmayLandge1910

5 ай бұрын

I was looking if anyone else noticed it not not!

@seitostockman

4 ай бұрын

Canadian aboot

i'm super skeptical that msi can pull this off without some sort of massive harware or software issue, but it looks pretty cool ngl

@agumon1605

5 ай бұрын

In most msi fashion, they will showcase best of the best, but then probably hardware issues -> software then leading to weird pricing either too high or too low

@CJTheTokay

5 ай бұрын

@@agumon1605there are 3 models of it $699 $750 $799

@agumon1605

5 ай бұрын

Like their laptop lineup

@Sun6935

5 ай бұрын

Their motherboards are okay, people say ASUS is better than MSI yet they launched the ally with a bunch of issues 🤷

@CJTheTokay

5 ай бұрын

@@agumon1605 there are 3 models of the Msi claw $699 $750 $799

I just got an Ally a few weeks ago (intending to get the Legion Go but then really disliking the form factor). I have been in love with it. Excited to see more competition in this space. I found the comment about the back buttons interesting; I actually like that I have to press the Ally back buttons in a very specific way. They're very easy to press for me but I never accidentally press them even if I'm freaking out and gripping the device hard. Hopefully that ends up being the case for the Claw as well.

This is the beginning of our return to the old in person Lan parties.. So easy to group up with your buddies IRL with your pc handheld gaming machines and have a great time eating pizza and chilling on the couch. So here for this ❤

Great intro to the MSI Claw. I like how the first thing you described was the ergonomics of the device.

I want a cooler boost feature on every gaming device out there. In warmer environments sometimes you just need to cool down the chassis. I do that manually currently on my laptop but it'd be lovely just to have a quick toggle.

@darkdiamondd

5 ай бұрын

It's on the legion go not sure bout the ally

@yensteel

5 ай бұрын

Hope mod support is good.

@lorenzogazzola328

5 ай бұрын

What do you use to manually cool your laptop? I'm currently trying a banano leaf with decent results.

@muneeb-khan

5 ай бұрын

@@lorenzogazzola328 there are fam tuning softwares for some laptops. I have the zephyrus and have used atrofac/ghelper

@viamoiam

5 ай бұрын

I laughed at this. My MSI laptop has thermal throttling issues. No vents are under the fan intakes on the bottom and the cooler boost compensates for this poor design. I first raised up the bottom off the desk to help, but it wasn't much better. I threw a bigger storage stick in and left the bottom off to test. Bottom of case off solved the problem. For a bit I left the screws out while it was at home and would pop the bottom off while it was in an A vertical on my desk and hooked up to monitor and dock. I plan to pick up a spare bottom and cut holes in it. It was so bad though I considered returning it. Only things that saves MSI is the advanced BIOS, they offered an all AMD Advantage configuration I wanted at a sale price.

Dave your videos are so much better than the competition's. Because you are not using a teleprompter and because of minimal editing, the connection with the viewer is way stronger. I feel this is what other youtubers' videos lack.

holy moly, i thought this was gonna be a video of speculation and guesses, never thought bro would pull one out🤣dats so goated

I just heard leaks about this and Dave somehow already has it... lol

I love how Dave can always get new/test devices.

Great to see the improvement about battery life. Looking forward the performance testing result.

Thanks Dave! Sharing the difference between Ally and the new Claw. Can't wait to feel the MSI Claw

I can't believe no one has copied the joystick layout from the steam deck, it is so much more comfortable

@retrobulldozer8723

5 ай бұрын

They just completely copied Rog Ally!

@kevadu

5 ай бұрын

Steam Deck absolutely nailed controls and ergonomics in a way none of these other handhelds come close to. That plus Steam OS makes me just completely uninterested in anything else, even if they're a bit faster.

@bicarbonateofsoda117

5 ай бұрын

Nope

@CJTheTokay

5 ай бұрын

Not everyone likes it though, that’s very subjective I for one like the Xbox layout a lot, not a fan of the ps layout I also don’t like the placement of the dpad on the deck but to each their own

@bicarbonateofsoda117

5 ай бұрын

@@CJTheTokay i agree. I had the steam deck and didn't like the layout of the buttons and sticks. Got an Ally and its much more preferable like the Xbox controller

I like the fact that the Ally's back buttons only actuate from one side because I have a tendency to brush against them accidentally, and it prevents me from pushing them when I don't intend to. I'm very interested to see how the performance stacks up against the Ally.

@WuFluChan

5 ай бұрын

I was holding mine while watching this and obviously tested it as soon as he said that but mine can be pushed in at any spot and work so idk what he’s talking about

@toxicavenger6172

5 ай бұрын

​@@WuFluChanI noticed the same thing with mine a long time ago. The guy has to talk up the claw some way. There's no way that Intel chip is going to outperform the z1 extreme. Anybody interested in this device should wait until performance reviews come out.

@omerg.8195

5 ай бұрын

He is talking Bullshit... You can press them on each area you can Touch them... Guess he was paid by MSI...

I cannot say how much I appreciate a video in this category made by someone who isn't trying to speak like a cartoonish radio DJ and just talks like a regular person. Great video.

This has been very insightful

it follows very closely the design of the asus rog ally, hopefully it doesnt have that micro sd card over the exhaust vent fiasco as well

@retrobulldozer8723

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, this is true, the design is completely the same as Rog Ally and they also placed a slot for Micro Sd cards under the hole for heat removal. Msi was very disappointing, literally completely copying Asus from the screen to the design of the device, I was hoping that they could come up with something of their own .

@officerminiwheats

5 ай бұрын

@@retrobulldozer8723 that design isn't what causes the micro sd failures and they aren't happening to every single device. It was the poor soldering and manufacturing quality control. MSI is more than capable of producing quality boards for their devices

@retrobulldozer8723

5 ай бұрын

@@officerminiwheats Yes, Msi are capable of doing anything, but instead of doing something unique, they just copy Asus from design to screen and ergonomics, it’s just ridiculous.

6:25 The unique way this guy starts saying baahtn towards the end 😂

I remember you testing that dual 1080 Acer monster laptop some years ago. Insane that we ended up with handheld devices

It took so long but I am glad we are finally here! I look forward to the future of portable gaming

Cooler boost is likely for situations where you have it docked and have an egpu connected

@m.o.x.d

5 ай бұрын

or you live in Australia lol

@legostarwarsrulez

5 ай бұрын

It would likely draw less heat under an EGPU situation since it’ll have the iGPU disabled

@AlexandrMTL

5 ай бұрын

Why would you need cooler boost if you're not even using the iGPU? An eGPU would likely reduce the Claw's power draw.

@50086gt

5 ай бұрын

@@AlexandrMTL the cooler boost increases the fan speed. So if you’re using the egpu you will be also using more cpu power when you play at a higher level of graphics. It’s obviously made for when it’s plugged in under hard use

@50086gt

5 ай бұрын

@@legostarwarsrulez false. If you’re playing games at 1440p or something and have a bunch of other settings turned up then you will be using more cpu power. If all you did was connect the egpu and not bump up the graphics at all then maybe that would be true. Also, if it’s plugged in, the cooler you can get it the better, since the cooler it runs the better performance you get, even without an egpu

Looks cool, but I'm worried about all that extra ventilation on the back. A lot of surface area for dust, debris and moisture to enter. It shouldn't be an issue too much for home use, but on the go it could become an issue. I guess the advantage beyond thermals is that you could use it as a miniature space heater.

@apoclypse

5 ай бұрын

Being Intel it probably needs all the cooling it can get.

from my experience having an MSI workstation laptop. The cooler boost feature maintains heat, even in humid situations, but it also keeps a stable FPS as well in most games.

This is one hell of a crispy looking video!

Your videos are always so creative and engaging, I'm never bored.

Something tells me battery life if going to be atrocious and the performance won’t be significantly better that Z1 extreme. Intel threw TDP’s out the window years ago.

@moist_ointment

5 ай бұрын

The power consumption was very explicitly stated. 15W, 30W, and 45W. It's not TDP - it's the actual power draw. With a 60W/hr battery, you can napkin math estimate the battery life of each power profile

@alexcrowder1673

5 ай бұрын

I agree, the z1 extreme is a beast compared to the van gogh in the steam deck. Itd be hard to imagine this being that much better. I think they should have done that lenovo did with the legion go, and add cool features to the thing. This just looks like a rog ally clone with different internals. They need to set themselves apart more IMO. The specs would have to be insane for this to be worth upgrading to.

@retrobulldozer8723

5 ай бұрын

​​​@@alexcrowder1673Yes,they just completely copied Rog Ally.

@MrDiMaggio5

5 ай бұрын

@@alexcrowder1673 agreed but I have a Go and a SD and the SD is still my go to. It amazing what they can do in that power envelope. But I love the Go’s 8” screen and I can do more “stuff” with it because it’s running Windows.

@nyesExpress

5 ай бұрын

60 W per hour? That is one crappy battery@@moist_ointment

I hope that companies will continue innovating towards smaller handheld devices in the future because I don’t really want my computer to grow larger after every upgrade.

Love the way how Dave explained the difference between 2 products. Better cooling shall be important while traveling around, especially in those southern regions with humid weather., and it shall stand for better sustainable performance under long-hour gameplay.

I know you usually don't review these little gaming handhelds often but would love for you to try out the AYN Odin 2 that just came out and see how you feel about using it compared to these systems. I find it's a really nice, more portable, and longer lasting android alternative to the x86 handhelds that have been popping up.

The Claw looks MUCH better than I thought it would when seeing leaks. It looks very ergonomic which is a great thing. Loving the black color too. It is nice there is minimal bezels too. I hope it has some decent performance and battery life. The fans sound real heavy 😬 Too bad I cannot afford it currently. I'll wait for the Switch 2 but loving the competition!

@retrobulldozer8723

5 ай бұрын

Minimal bezels?)Msi just completely copied Rog Ally,only differens is a Intel and 2 hitsink instead of 1,Lol.Look at the LEGo,thats where the minimal bezels is.

@Drstrange3000

5 ай бұрын

@@retrobulldozer8723 Maybe I should look again lol. I saw a couple of clips and looked like it had less but it is probably because it is black and blends more.

I love gaming handhelds, good thing we're getting more competition this year. You forgot to mention which operating system it runs on so I'll presume it's Windows.

@MochamadJeffryAlfarizy-jy5sc

5 ай бұрын

Yeah Probably windows

Great video, as always. 😎👍🏼

Every time i click dave2d's videos i always replay that buttery smooth intro.

Really excited to see how the retail unit turns out and how they price it

The system is in par with the ROG ally at 25-30W - that's bad news, that's another way of saying it has poor performance at low wattages, which has been an issue of Tiger Lake and Ice Lake as well, ideally for a handheld machine it should perform well at 10-15W, at 25-30W devices of that size can't afford to have a battery big enough for them to have great battery life.

Love the ergonomic design and form factor, I'm sure the cooling would be great on an MSI device!

This thing is sick!!!!!!! ❤. Can’t wait to get mine. Great video

@mantabanjing463

5 ай бұрын

Cant wait for your detailed review

the CLAW

@miloshp7399

5 ай бұрын

Jim Carrey comes to mind

@BinauralBae

5 ай бұрын

@@miloshp7399 exactly the way I wanted the post to be read 🤣

Looks good. Only problem is that top and bottom screen bezel is super obnoxious but since the system itself is black it's not as annoying as it is on the rog ally

@shawndoucet4751

5 ай бұрын

tbh i kinda like it in black plus id say it add protection for the screen having a bezel top n bottom? then flush to the device if one were to drop it

i love how dave says 'button'

Cool video as always. Would be cool to hear your thoughts on this VS the legion go.

Impressive product. I can not wait for the day were we will have 1080p on mid to high detail and around 60-120hz with atleast 4-8 hours of Playtime with a bright Oled screen. I'd say we're around 5-7 years away from that.

@RJSamonte

5 ай бұрын

Maybe 2-3 years with the Steam Deck 2

@jake8343

5 ай бұрын

​@RJSamonte I hope so! Just bought an oled and if that is potentially the case, that would be awesome. With how well handhelds are already doing, I see it being possible (as long as AAA games don't become 500gb downloads 🙃)

@chariothe9013

5 ай бұрын

Steam deck OLED already ranges from 2-12 hrs. iirc. I expect next release to be 3-15 at least. I don't mind 800p unless screen gets bigger.

@spacedout4061

5 ай бұрын

Steam deck rn is still the best handheld tbh

@spacedout4061

5 ай бұрын

Dude, you already have that with the steam deck lol, its just 800p (which btw you cannot tell like at all)

Dual fans and 45 watts is missing the point of this form factor.

@VisceralMonkey504

5 ай бұрын

Negative. There are multiple audiences for these devices, they are no longer limited to the previous audience who have very specific ideas of what a handheld should be. More use cases these days.

@keyboard_g

5 ай бұрын

It’s a physics and thermodynamics thing. Its going to blast through its battery if its drawing 45 watts for just the apu.

@Supermrloo

5 ай бұрын

They're going for a different segment of people who want that. Whether or not it's built well and has good software support is another thing

@Supermrloo

5 ай бұрын

@@keyboard_g if like me you use your handhelds mostly at home this doesn't bother me

@Ebalosus

5 ай бұрын

@@VisceralMonkey504heard that one before. Remind me again of all the timeless games released for the Vita, lmao...

I knew when getting the Ally that more powerful hardware would be released within the next year and I’m okay for that. It’s pretty exciting to see and still love what my Ally can do

I like the look of it, and it appears to be comfortable in the hand. Add in the large battery and it really just comes down to Intel drivers and price.

Handhelds are getting better and competitive. Knowing Intel they are always expensive (I wish Im wrong on this one). Does it support external GPU like Ally (maybe I missed it in the video) ?

@akamazjzjajz-ie3sw

5 ай бұрын

Yes its​ does​ with​ usb support at maximum 40gbps and​ you​ can put any gpu u​ want​

@AdioAurel

5 ай бұрын

Any eGPU except the XGM from ROG lol

@PatrickLofstrom

5 ай бұрын

It'll probably be expensive enough to merit waiting for a Black Friday sale. Price cuts are anticipated when they price these things.

@Jimster481

5 ай бұрын

But it doesn't have the external Pci-e port.

@akamazjzjajz-ie3sw

5 ай бұрын

@@AdioAurel not​ really im​ wont spend 2000 buck for​ it you​ better buying 4090​ with​ egpu setup for​ this price​ or even​ full desktop pc​ you​ rog​ fanboy buffoon

Hum...there’s a lot of bots...

I still cant get over the fact how awesome your hair looks bro. Just solid.

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

I see only one usb-c like the Ally, which is extremely annoying. I also didn't see an m.2 slot anywhere in the internals. I wonder if storage is soldered. That would be very unfortunate.

@cameronbosch1213

5 ай бұрын

And to me, that would be a dealbreaker.

It's starting at $700. Definitely an ROG Ally competitor, definitely *not* a Steam Deck competitor.

@officerminiwheats

5 ай бұрын

And if it can't go beneath 15W definitely not. Imagine trying to play vampire survivors or any similar game on this for extended periods. Hopefully Intel figures that out before this releases or soon after

@GrimAbstract

5 ай бұрын

@@officerminiwheats the battery is still bigger tho, it would balance out

@officerminiwheats

5 ай бұрын

@@GrimAbstract so why not take advantage of it instead of wasting power? We have no idea what the actual performance/efficiency curve is cause Dave's just being paid to promote a product that isn't ready yet (and using outdated info on other handhelds). We should just wait to evaluate assertions like that once the device is being actually reviewed

@GrimAbstract

5 ай бұрын

@@officerminiwheats I mean we have no clue right now. I wish I had an answer for you, but if you want decent battery bro I suggest the steam deck OLED

Loving the hair bro!

Man I’d love to see an apple m powered handheld.

@sggsquadpresents

5 ай бұрын

ipad

@AlexRubio

5 ай бұрын

I would not closed source garbage

@AvalineSky

5 ай бұрын

Iphone 15 pro basically is. But macOS is terrible for gaming. It has so few native titles

@Big_Yin

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I've been saying nintendo and apple should join forces.

@anandsuralkar2947

5 ай бұрын

No

Re: the intro - the Lenovo doesn't exist?

@jameswilson8907

5 ай бұрын

It's too good.

The comparison is interesting. Looking forward to the the testing result of their performance)

I love the RGB Analog stick!!! MSI Claw is fantastic 😍😍😍

We need more 8' plus screen on handheld. 7' is still too small for most 3A games

@delphinium7713

5 ай бұрын

I originally purchased a steam deck, but then switched to the Lenovo legion go because of that reason. 7 inches was too small for me

It sure took Intel a while to get into this new wave of handheld computing. Looks like a good start, though. I'm looking forward to seeing how their incoming devices compete, both in performance AND in price.

@nefariou5

5 ай бұрын

intel only really develop for mass markets, so i guess they saw no real need to be in the handheld market until the steam deck showed the potential sales.

Deym! D2d having early hands on again. 👌🏽

Looks great. Might be the best one out once you get that retail version and really test it. To bad it didn't take the bigger screen that the legion go has. Love my go.

I don't care if it looks like a black Rog Ally, I want this.

I am what I am.

@RGAMES4321

5 ай бұрын

Damn, I thought you were what you weren't

@Sauravwtf

5 ай бұрын

Weren't you what you weren't ?

@robknight9406

5 ай бұрын

@@Sauravwtfonly on Mondays

@gus473

5 ай бұрын

Y'am what you yam 🍠

I'm really happy Intel is bothering to compete. I'm not sure how much more powerful computers, even for gaming, can get and still have practical use. But it's so amazing seeing these increasingly powerful handhelds. Its amazing how much they are doing to make PC gaming more accessible and genuinely feel more free (as in being able to natively play favorite games anywhere). It's a joy I haven't felt since I got my first Gameboy.

My thoughts on the cooler boost... If they have thunderbolt (which is a very intel thing) you can use an External GPU and then utilize the cooler boost to help stop it from thermal throttling while acting like a desktop. So it's less for mobile and more for the home experience. Bet their dock is going to try to take full advantage of those settings.

dude, can you mention the price of the products that you review? If you want us to watch a video at least include the price of the product that you review.

@Sauvahe

24 күн бұрын

At the time it didn’t have a price tag, it was a pre-production unit…

Love the way you say "Button"..

It is sad that Meteor Lake wasn't as efficient as it hoped to be. I hope Arrow Lake would be really better. I am also excited on how the Rentable unit architecture be like.

Looks awesome! 😍

Cool video dave, where's that hoodie from?

Kind've surprised that the Ally is the only handheld so far to have released with VRR. It's pretty essential on a device like this that will most often be running games at sub-60 fps, especially when you don't have any workaround solutions like the Deck's adjustable refresh-rate.

The fan ill on the top of the claw was a monster, I wish Dava talk abit more about AI function mode as to the generic wattage mode (Silent, Perfomance and Full power mode) and the ultra fan boost

Crazy to see MSI steamdeck....excited to see gameplay in a handheld other than laptop!

I cannot unhear the funny pronunciation of button, how have I not noticed this before 😂?!

bro posting 2 videos today nice

Super impressed with the steam deck, OLED, and all the improvements this one is looking to be fighting for the crown in handhelds with superpowers…The competition in this market is pretty heated and that’s a good thing for everybody…

Cannot wait to se this device on the market ✨🤓👍🏼

looks great!

time to get one and having fun

great, can't wait to own it

just can't wait to get MSI Claw!

fingers crossed for MSI

Love MSI claw design, can't wait to buy it!!!😍

Thanks for the review, you say "button" in a funny way :)

Excitied to see new player join this handheld market, hope this msi claw could provide a tool to install the Steam OS....That'll be nice =P

I already have a steam deck and Ally but I just love handhelds! I hope it makes it worth my while after a few weeks of release.

A company that is very strong in the design of competitive gaming notebooks can definitely put technology into handheld mobile phones. In addition to the functions and comfort when holding it, the design can definitely meet the needs of users.

I love how he says “buttons”

The sd card slot location though 🔥🔥🔥

😀Good sharing ! Look forward to seeing the battery life on the retail version.

It's like a powerful little notebook 😍 Can't wait to get my own Claw!

Can’t wait to get that battery into the ally!!

Hall effect triggers and joysticks, 53 whr battery and 45 watt performance mode are the real sellers for me. If the price is right I may pick this up.

“That’s hella loud” 3:58 I didn’t know we had the same vernacular 😂