If anyone else has any C2Q Opinions or Experiences, please leave a comment as I have been loving the responses from the community so far 👍

@jurisjancevskis9076

2 жыл бұрын

I've got a question wth is quad core water?

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

@@jurisjancevskis9076 We may never know. It has 0 reviews

@jurisjancevskis9076

2 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial ok

@jurisjancevskis9076

2 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial maybe buy it and review it, I guess?

@szab04

2 жыл бұрын

I'm just trying to sell a PC with a Q8400, 8Gb RAM and a GTX460, it served as a light gaming pc and as a movie playing pc connected to my tv, but i want something bit more powerful, so i try to sell it

I will say I am definitely blown away by the usability of these CPUs. If you came up to me a few years ago and told me the Core2Quad would still be kicking around in 2022 I would not believe you. We really do need to find a way to immortalize these chips in pc part history for how long they have provided a solid budget option to gamers. Great video had many laughs and I'm extremely interested in seeing the extreme and xeon benchmarks you do in the near future.

@ethand4784

2 жыл бұрын

I'm still using one in my main rig and it's surprisingly fast for its age, everything internet related works perfectly and modern games either run or don't launch, but you'd be surprised at the things it can do

@hartomos

2 жыл бұрын

Well I still have c2x qx9650 in possession and i still used it till last year its a very surprising CPU if you ask me, i even used it to edit something on Corel draw somewhat ok

@Nordlicht05

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethand4784 I have the comparison to a ~ 2,4ghz quad and a 3ghz duo. I can notice a performance benefit of the quad when surfing. It's noticeable faster. From today on I switcht from a pi to my old core to duo in my arcade cabinet. Even undervoltet it. A quad was overkill in my opinion for what games I put on it.

@skywaytech

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethand4784 I'm already pretty surprised honestly.

@skywaytech

2 жыл бұрын

@@hartomos This makes me really excited for budgets next video on them. I wanna see what top spec can do.

I had Q9650 till 3 months ago when I finally upgraded to 5600X on AM4 platform. Sold the motherboard with Q9650 and 8GB DDR2 all for 30 euros. Had my 775 platform since 2008. I now realized how much faster CPUs have gotten. Great stuff.

@Paxmax

9 ай бұрын

..and uses way less power! My AMD 5700G machine uses only 15-25W web browsing/youtube. It'll be a few more watts when I put in a proper GFX card though, still on on-board GFX.

@sihamhamda47

9 ай бұрын

You also feels like you're time traveling from 2008 straight to 2020 when you finally upgrade your CPU

@Paxmax

9 ай бұрын

@@sihamhamda47 Indeed, "office web browsing etc" uses so little computing capacity, cpu doesn't break sweat, you seldom hear the fan spin up from default min speed. Where as my 2012 old cpu has spurious ramp ups every minute or so.

@affordablesolarguy

8 ай бұрын

No,, its the 8 gig ram limit and ddr 2 that slowed the quad down, your just wrong. DDR 3 jumped from 800mhz in the ddr 2, to 1333 mhz in the ddr 3, and you can run 16 gigs of it, slight over clock, it beats the I3 easily, and competes directly with i5 best machines.

@TheLucidDreamer12

5 ай бұрын

​@@affordablesolarguynot true. I have a Xeon X5450 (equivalent to Q9650) and it struggles even with DDR3. The closest modern chip is a dual core Pentium

I won a science fair with a pc with this chip and an rx 470, the pc costed me around 125 with graphics card and all in December of 2019, it was an alright pc for the money.

@Friendroid

2 жыл бұрын

were you attending the Budget Build Highschooll?

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

it’s like the breakfast club, but we changed the name to budget 😂

@kyles8524

2 жыл бұрын

what exactly did you win the science fair for lol? making a cheap computer? I dont get it

@gabrielalexismojicasantiag4085

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyles8524 The project was called " how a 10+ year old pc can be used in 2019 with modern parts".

@__matcha

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty neat

This video makes me want to go in the attic and get out my Asus p5e3 deluxe with DDR3 support with my QX9650 and see how much better I can do than you at 4.2GHZ. Maybe i'll make a video about it... some day :P

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

You’ll probably beat 99% of AMDs FX Releases on that beast.

@BearGryllsz

2 жыл бұрын

I'll gladly wait that some day Timmy!

@crofty565

2 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial leave FX alone 😔😂

@IamJay02

2 жыл бұрын

Pls

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

With that clock you'll easily reach 1000 points in Cinebench R20 and be able to play games like GTA V, Doom 2016 or Witcher 3

I'm planning to upgrade my PC from a Pentium dual core 5400 to a core2 quad 9450. I only use my computer for retro games, emulation, and storing files, but recently it's been a tad more sluggish than usual, so I'm going to upgrade the processor 😁

@sobolanul96

2 жыл бұрын

Try the 9550, or even the 9650. With decent cooling you can also oc them with at least 400MHz without any issues in the long run. They sould be fairly inexpensive. Tip: you can find them also in many old OEM computers

@akashi2921

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Xeon gang here

@younglingslayer2896

2 жыл бұрын

@@akashi2921 ayeeeee

@ethand4784

2 жыл бұрын

I'm holding a pentium dual core in my hand as I type this, just a tip though, check your motherboard compatibility, it may not work with a q9450 and you may want to go for an overclocked q6600 instead

@Centuria-lj9tq

2 жыл бұрын

@@sobolanul96 There is a big difference in the price. I always wanted a Q9650, but in every case I bought the 9550. It costs only half.

The Core 2 Quad is the CPU that never surrendered.

@ALPHABYTE64

Жыл бұрын

Too weak in 2016

@sdaafasfad

10 ай бұрын

I feel like the i5-2500K was it's spiritual successor

@skyblock_mouse

8 ай бұрын

​​​@@sdaafasfad yep, I think I5 as a whole will prob be the successor of the core 2 quad, they are cheap and reliable and strong

As someone who STILL uses a Core2Quad Q6600, I absolutely love this video

@thedungeondelver

2 жыл бұрын

Someone mail this mad lad a 9600 series C2Q, stat!

@Omabatfartsbruh

2 жыл бұрын

did you use the tape mod?

@nalouzefr2368

2 жыл бұрын

@@Omabatfartsbruh I think people used it the most with the good old 4 core xeons.

@lsso

2 жыл бұрын

@@Omabatfartsbruh unfortunately I never heard about this mod until now

@Tube2097

Жыл бұрын

@@lsso What's this mod? Lol.

currently watching this on my core 2 quad PC from 2014, so far so good as long as you optimize it properly. Like using useful extensions like Ublock Origin, H264ify, using lower versions of programs that doesn't require constant internet connection (like Photoshop) etc. I actually learned it from you Budget-Builds Official, from your old computer benchmarking videos. Great content as always BBF, I loved this type of videos you make. Keep it up man!

@0ka354

2 жыл бұрын

On windows 10?

@canaconn2388

2 жыл бұрын

Linux is your friend if you still use a core 2

@pessoaanonima6345

2 жыл бұрын

I tried H264ify and it didn't make any difference. Does it work well for you?

@0ka354

2 жыл бұрын

@@canaconn2388 not really if you want to play games...

@explorer9049

2 жыл бұрын

@@0ka354 then you shouldn't be playing modern games on a Core 2 Duo/Quad. get an sandy bridge lga 1155 platform instead, cheap and common out there especially on oem systems in the Europe & USA.

Next stop: The BSEL mod for the Q6600 and a comparision to stock speeds

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

If the board has the neccesary settings I would go so far to say try 400x8 for 3.2 GHz and more bandwith.

C2Q was legendary, I think it's time to say goodbye... C2Q has minor issues in performance when using a multitasking programs, it is always CPU bottleneck. The C2Q holds well with everything application (with SSE4.1) I am expecting newer program that won't work like AVX and other instructions.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

2 жыл бұрын

Very few programs even take advantage of AVX instructions, even today.

@randomequations2210

10 ай бұрын

Im still using C2Q just new application requiring SEE 4.2 doesn't work

@Jenci

10 ай бұрын

@@randomequations2210 SSE 4.2 requires minimum Intel i7 first gen.

Please - try OC them. Up until recently I had LGA771 Xeon in LGA775 board OCd to over 4GHz (4,2GHz was quazi-stable and 4,1 was perfectly fine). These CPUs were great for overclocking and that's what made them legendary. You bought already super powerfull CPU and you got another 30% + on OC. Actually my first CPU in that board was lowly Pentium 2140. That had factory clock clock @1,6GHz. It ran perfectly fine at double that speed (3,2GHz) until I replaced it with second hand Xeon.

I'm really surprised you never mentioned the infamous 771 to 775 mod. But it is rather old to deal with and requires a bit of very careful work to be done. I rarely see anyone talking about using those these days

Hey you're finally covering the Core 2 Quad. Legendary CPUs. I think the Q9x50 series specifically still have the power in modern usage. The Q6000 series are usable in a pinch and while day-to-day tasks still work just fine, the Q8000 series consume less power, get less hot, and the higher ends work just as well. The Q9000 series are a good median. Unfortunately despite still bring usable as a cheap way to get 4 (good) cores, the Nehalem i5-700 series are a better (and sometimes almost as cheap!) alternative to get 4 cores and have an upgrade path to i7-860. Good video as usual! Always nice to hear your takes on these old tech.

@MLGKid420

2 жыл бұрын

2nd-4th gen Core i-series CPUs aren't very expensive nowadays too. They are a popular choice nowadays too

@whitebeartigtig

2 жыл бұрын

the X3430 and X3440 Xeons are on the same 1156 socket, perform the same, but are a fraction of the price. I personally recommend those instead.

@whitebeartigtig

2 жыл бұрын

@timmy ho in some cases it's actually cheaper. On auction you can sometimes get a H55 motherboard for less than £20 and currently the i5 750 at CeX is £2 and a 2x4GB kit of RAM will set you back £8 from CeX. Not too bad of a price for something that has a decent upgrade path.

@nexus7tablet610

Жыл бұрын

Your bleeding edge q9650 8-16gb ram system can still function over a decade later. Even if time has reduced it to an everyday machine rather than a gaming beast. The killer blow came when software started including launch conditions to detect CPU's, even operating systems have started doing this.

I've got a machine with a Q6600, I refer to it as "The 2007 Machine", something I've had around for years. Actually a pretty good system for Xp stuff

@user-qp3qj2jv6f

2 жыл бұрын

With the cheapest SSD (Kingston A400 120 gb) it boots Windows 10 faster than my 2022 laptop with an nvme ssd loading either Arch or Windows 11.

@DUMBDUDEGAMER

2 жыл бұрын

I've just retired my dad's "2007 machine." It has a Pentium Duo E2200 and it runs Arch Linux with KDE. It's surprisingly decent still.

@wfmg7235

2 жыл бұрын

i have one too! xp gaming machine with 8800 gts

@struergymnasium

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, good stuff. If yours is still running, perhaps there's a few more years left in my ol' girl, the i5-750. 2.6ghz quadcore goodness.

@megafan0258

2 жыл бұрын

@@wfmg7235 Mine has an E8500, 7900 GT, Gigabyte board and 4gb OCZ Gold ram.

No C2Q experience beyond fixing a couple 775 mobos back in the day. I would be interested in doing a comparison to how the challenging Athlon/Phenom series is holding up these days though. My first PC build was an Athlon based system because they were noticeably cheaper when I was building it

@jhonnyxyz

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a Phenom 2 955 95W a couple of days ago for just 8€ including shipping. I also have plenty of 775 chips and motherboards around. I would like to compare the two competitors to each other. I've also a Phenom first gen Quad-Core somewhere to compare it as well. The main difference is the integrated memory controller and for the Phenom 2 the L3 cache.

@TheDemocrab

2 жыл бұрын

Phenom II is slightly faster than C2Q clock for clock and overclocks similarly so it'll be holding up too, although obviously the six core option will do a bit better especially with modern games that can actually scale to use those cores. :D

@foobar-9k

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhonnyxyz Darn! A Phenom II 955 (95W version) sells for about USD 35 in my country :-(. That's without Cooler/Fan. No wonder I'm still using my Athon II X2 to type this. Edit: besides... my aging motherboard would probably melt if I try to run anything above 65W :-D

@ubergeeknz

2 жыл бұрын

I resurrected an Athlon XP machine recently and it was not very usable. For one those weren't 64 bit chips so you're now quite limited in terms of "current" O/S choice. And once I found a Linux distro which worked, it could barely cope with opening the front page of KZread much less play HD video. The 64 X2 might still fare better, I think X2 had similar performance to the C2D of the time, but certainly not C2Q. It was undisputed king at that time.

@TheDemocrab

2 жыл бұрын

@@ubergeeknz The Athlon64 x2 wasn't as fast as the Core 2 Duo, but it should still be fairly usable with a suitable modern Linux install especially if you have a PCIe motherboard and throw in a reasonably modern GPU for video decoding. The Athlon XP won't work too well with modern Linux not only because the CPU is simply too slow for a lot of modern programs but the Socket A platform itself is the last "old school" platform (eg. IDE is the main storage access stnadard with SATA being a bit of an afterthought on later boards, there's no PCIe support or anything remotely like it, etc) where a lot of the underlying software required for an OS likely isn't tested too thoroughly with that kind of configuration these days.

In years we'll be like "The core i7 11700K, how does it hold up in 2037? Now, we know games these days only hit 12 cores, but does this 8 core chip still hold its own? We'll see in the benchmarks"

@DigitalJedi

2 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for 15 years from now when we look at stuff like a 3090ti and the 6950XT like thr GTX580 is now.

@Shyvorix

2 жыл бұрын

@@DigitalJedi Nah, 2028 to 2030 latest lol. PC tech moves fucking fast.

@theforerunnerreclaimer

2 жыл бұрын

@@sur_shrimpster Girl in your pfp is the only female attention you'll get

@BrunodeSouzaLino

2 жыл бұрын

Replace that with the i7 7700k. It's the new 2700k

@JPX64Channel

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shyvorix not anymore, moore's law is hitting its limits, unless something new comes to the equation.

Cache and clocls are 2 of the key determining factors I take into consideration when shopping for processors.

Hey congrats on the LTT shout-out! I hope your channel continues to grow and you make even more great content!

Thank you for this vid, very informative in my quest of upgrading a celeron to a c2q with the best local price/performance specs :D

I used a slightly overclocked Q8200 for budget gaming at home while my main desktop was stuck in my college dorm. It handled TF2 and Minecraft surprisingly well even when paired with an NVS 315

Happy to see old stuff is still usable today, still using as main rig since 2008 my Asus Striker II Extreme with 8gb DDR3 ram, an x5460 and a GTX580

Really pleasant video! It's really nice to see someone talking about this awesome cpu's in 2022. Back in the days I owned (and still have) an Core2Duo E8500, but in 2018 +/-, quad cores was a must and I bought an Core2Quad Q9650 for like 30€ used, and was a blast! In the actual days, it's my father who runs that pc for usual stuff, and he does the job pretty decent! Nothing to complain and nothing to worry about upgrades. Was glorious days when that CPU's came out, and i'm still very happy to see them runing like a charm. My father is really happy with my old PC (MB ASUS P5E + Core2Quad Q9650 + ROG RX570 4GB + HYPERX FURY 8GB DDR2 + WD BLUE 500GB + WINDOWS 10). Thanks for this video Sir. Such great memories!

Fantastic test! never had one, jumped straight from an athlon x2 to a first-gen i7 860, but it would also be very cool to see how far these can be pushed when overclocked in 2022. I remember building a cheap q8400 system for a friend to play overwatch on something like 5 years ago and it performed admirably well after a slight overclock and paired with a radeon RX 460

I really love the tests of those old Quads. I still use a 9550 with a 7770 for dailey tasks, light gaming and so on and it still works fine. I dont think any second about retirering the system.

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Similar to what I was running for a while (X5460 + R7 250X, until it got handed down a GTX 660 Ti)

@gabriel_4916

9 ай бұрын

Same here! It matches perfectly with a GTX 750TI! I also got a i7 6700K paired with a RTX 2060, but i like more the old C2Q for sentimental value

I was fascinated by Core2Quad benchmarks, but then AMD released the Phenom II X4 955. It was cheaper and as fast as the Q9550.

Love these sort of videos, would be awesome if you can do AM3's last hurrah like the 1090T Phenom X6 Used to have one myself and always wondered how future proof the hexa cores really are with things being atleast a bit more multi core focused

@TheLucidDreamer12

5 ай бұрын

Having used one of these (1045T), I can say that these would still be fantastic if they supported SSE instructions. They're faster in IPC terms than FX chips and are true hex-cores. The overclocking on these is insane

Good video. I had no idea that the Q6600 couldn't run some games that other Core 2 Quads could.

I use my old Core 2 Quad Q6600 computer as a file/media server. I built it all the way back in 2009, it has a 9800 GT, 4 GB of RAM and an 80 GB Intel SSD which wasn't cheap back then. I also added a 4 TB HDD when I turned it in to a server but for some reason the motherboard is stuck in IDE emulation mode with no apparent way of switching to AHCI mode so can only address 2 TB partitions.

@hj-mr5gg

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't even know ssds were available for retail purchase in 2009, nice

@ethand4784

2 жыл бұрын

wow, I started off with a 9800gt and 4gb back in 2016 when I built mine as a sort of super budget system

Just completed a Windows XP retro build using a Q9650 and a GTX 760. I've never tried more modern titles on this CPU, but for the era of games I built this system for, it's an absolute beast.

@benjib2691

Жыл бұрын

I'm planing to upgrade my late XP area PC with a Q9650 and GTX 750 Ti (from a E8400 and Radeon HD 3870). Seems like a good pairing indeed (will also need to increase the RAM amount from 2 Go to 4 Go, DDR2-1066 with tight timings)

@Pidalin

Жыл бұрын

I have Q9550 with GTX275 (or maybe I will put GTX460 there) for ultimate gaming for games like FarCry, Doom 3 and such games + some first DX10 games, it's a beast. When you look at that jump, this HW is from 2009 and in like 2008, I still had some Pentium 4, it's totaly crazy that some more rich people were able to have this HW just a year later and play these games with 120 FPS on ultra. 😀

Sometime ago, I bought a Core 2 Quad Q9400 to use in my G41 Express chipset system that used to have a Celeron e3400. It blown the Celeron out of the water in terms of performance, both in desktop usage and in Minecraft. The PC was running well and I was planning on maxing the RAM to the 8GB DDR3 limit of the board and getting a cheap, used graphics card (although cheap graphics cards here in Brazil are impossible to find), so I could play games like Batman Arkham Knight (with DXGI to increase performance). Suddenly, all my dreams were destroyed. I woke up one day and turned the PC on just to see my old, low-quality power supply faling and frying my PC, including my Core 2 Quad and the Motherboard.

The Q6600 was so legendary, cause you can overclock it into the sky.... sometimes it was as easy as lifting the FSB from 266 to 333 (quadpumped - so 1066 and 1333 FSB) which give you more than 3GHz on that thing.....

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

333 FSB gave it exactly 3 GHZ, but FSB 400 with 8x multi for 3.2 GHz always felt like a sweet spot to me. The right balance between performance, voltage and cooling requirements.

@joeckyhim

9 ай бұрын

YOU CAN USE A DDR3 MOTHERBOARD WITH THAT CPU

Been using a q9550 for almost ~11 years. Still in my work server to this day. Stays pretty cool too.

My old core 2 quad q6600 is still kicking after well over 10 years of use in a Dell XPS 420. I have to admit, that I'm not super impressed with its performance nowadays, but it's legendary legacy is certainly something to be a bit proud of. I'm also currently holding the top benchmark score for my combo of hardware in 3DMark fire strike, so that's fun.

The amount of joy that entered my body when LinusTechTips gave you a shout out was unreal.

I agree entirely with your findings, it's been my experience that for everything but the last five years of gaming you'll do very well with a C2Q considering it's very old age!

I've owned many core 2 duos and core 2 quads and I'd never in a million years think people would still be using them after 2020. I just recently upgraded my core i5 3470 to a Xeon E1230 V2 and with the games I play with my system I can definitely tell the difference having the extra threads available. Great video as usual. Love your work!

@microbuilder

2 жыл бұрын

My Q9650 has been my daily driver for the last few years...between having grown up in the 80s with REALLY slow computers, and the blissful ignorance of not having used todays much more powerful CPUs, living with a core 2 quad isnt too bad lol

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Over the last 10 years or so progress has slowed a bit and demands for simple tasks has stayed pretty much the same as well. Chips from that day might not be able to play the latest games well or do modern render workloads in a timely manner, but they're still capable for office or youtube.

@valentinmagureanu8039

2 жыл бұрын

Buddy am și eu un procesor Intel core i5 3470!☺️😊😊😊🙂

@user-yv2cz8oj1k

Жыл бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudios I thought that, then I got an AMD Ryzen 5000 series upgrade from the old 2000 series, this thing is blisteringly fast.

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@user-yv2cz8oj1k oh, it's faster no doubt. games, rendering, etc clearly benefit. but I doubt the difference when watching KZread or browsing reddit will be noticable.

Core 2 Quad processors from the 9000 series work great with a GTX 750ti 2gb. I recently built such a PC for a family member who uses it to browse the internet, Skype, office applications and games up to 2015, at 1080p, believe it or not 😆. I also fitted the PC with 8 GB DDR3 and an SSD for the operating system. 2022 and still being used and the person is very pleased with it.

My men got mentioned in the newest Linus Tech Tips video :D That's awesome!

Q6600. Still using it today, 15 years old and perfectly usable for office/internet use. It was really more than enough in terms of processing power when I first bought it. Never thought that it would last that long. The addition of an SSD drive made a huge difference.

I still use my q9550 to this day. The 16mb l2 cache in it made it future proof, for sure.

@theforerunnerreclaimer

2 жыл бұрын

My i5 6200U had less L2 than that I belive

@thendrx18

2 жыл бұрын

q9550 has 12MB L2 Cache

@theforerunnerreclaimer

2 жыл бұрын

@@thendrx18 You sure it's L2?

@SlickOnTop

2 жыл бұрын

@@thendrx18 there are some custom versions with increased specs.

@davymcmenamin

2 жыл бұрын

Using mine in a hastily thrown together machine in a spare room office. I smartly had my main setup in a family area, and now I'm back at college part time. Q9550, AMD V4900, WiFi/BT card, 240GB SSD and 500GB 2.5"HDD I had laying around. Unfortunately I can't get it to boot with more than 4gb of ram even though the board is supposed to support 8gb. Works fine for office type stuff, threw a couple of games and emu's on there last night but haven't tried them yet.

I stand by my opinion that the Core 2 Duo and Quad are everything someone who doesn't want to game actually needs.

@user-yv2cz8oj1k

Жыл бұрын

The Quad yes, the Duo? No. I had to use one as a developer at work at the time and it was the most god awful POS it has ever been my misfortune to have to use, even old Unix workstations from 10 years previous to it were snappier than that. Thinking of it I probably should have swapped the CPU out for a Quad and not told my boss. 🤣

@quan-uo5ws

8 ай бұрын

You have never seen a two core cpu get completely destroyed by windows 10 then....

@Txm_Dxr_Bxss

8 ай бұрын

@@quan-uo5ws I've used Windows 10 on a Core 2 Duo, it's perfectly usable as long as you have an SSD.

I can't wait to start finding these on the curb. The last "usable" thing I found was a windows Vista era and quad core, and not a very good one. It worked good for tinkering with Linux, and now it enjoys it's remaining years as a dedicated Octoprint server for my 3d printer.

The very first system I actually built was back in 2008 with a Q6600. I kept that chip for 7 straight years and used the 775 platform for another year with a Xeon X5460, as my primary rig. Then in 2018 I purchased again a C2Q, the Q6700 this time and along with some really cheap parts I built a pc to use it as a backup and for older games but sadly I haven't used it for over a year now. I'm in the hunt for a high end sli capable lga775 motherboard though and I'll be hopefully tinkering again with the Core 2 Quad in the near future. A friend also has retired his good ol' 775 system with a QX9650 in it, so I hope I can build a new system with that chip!

Even back in 2016 it struggled a lot with games like Rise of the Tomb Raider. I would say it was already obsolete when Intel didn't release security patches for Spectre/Meltdown

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

That comes more down to the game and GPU used. I have to upgrade the GTX 660 Ti I pair with mine because I'm constantly in a GPU limit in Doom 2016, even in 720p at lowest settings.

@ligametis

2 жыл бұрын

Well just don't use it for the newest games. Cheap cpus today can't even do that, but that doesn't meant they are obsolete.

The slightly uncommon Q9505 has always fascinated me, I have one in my home media server now but it is quite staggering. It's easily matches or out performs the i7 920 in single thread and occasionally multithread

Absolutely Legends! Still playing on my Q6600 older games. I found an lga775 that appparently supports duo extreme, will do some research to see how it compares with my q6600.

I had the E6600, then upgraded to Q6700. That was in the days when having more than 1 core was still pretty ground breaking, so having a quad core was just amazing to me. I was very pleased with my Q6700, and used it for years. My path after that was 2600k, 9900k, and now the 12900k.

@Jeymez

Жыл бұрын

and you don't even need the 12900k, 12 cores is overkill for gaming and multitasking. the 2600k is the only one you got right.

The Q6600 was the CPU that dragged me back into pc gaming, it happily ran at 3.6ghz for about 7 years then was offered an AMD motherboard for cheap to replace it and sought out an 1100T for a slight improvement in video encoding. These days I have been using an i7 4790k at stock speed which is not great compared to the other 2 but I can't be bothered replacing it as it still works for my needs.

@timtresch4848

9 ай бұрын

same thing, I got a killer deal on an Optiplex mid-tower with a Q6600/4GB RAM, and a pair of 1TB WD Blue HDDs, which was a pretty snappy system for dirt cheap back in like 2011 after being out of the pc gaming world for a few years and got a cheap used graphics card to throw in my Dell and got all my old steam games installed and got back into the PC gaming world for less then 200$, and got a good 1.5 years out of that system till I was able to do a proper gaming build.

@Alakazam551

4 ай бұрын

That I7 would destroy a Phenom II 1100T in every single way. I know the 1100T has 6 cores (no HT though), but a 1st gen I7 920 - 4c/8t - was faster than that Amd chip in all the workloads that mattered, only slower/similar in some very niche workloads, so a 4th gen I7 with 2133mhz DDR3 available would stomp all over it hahah. I think it was the umm 1055T? 6c Phenom II i owned back in the day, could overclock it to around 4.2ghz, the I7 920 i downgraded from was waay faster - especially in gaming. I had just left school and had my first real job (and no responsibility lol) so dropped a bit of $ on PC's at the time.

Great video lad keep up with the good work ps how are you doing today

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Doin alright, glad I finished up this video 👍

@FunnyRaccoonMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial quite a good one aswell, love me the videos on older stuff, great work

I had my share of processors on the 775/771 platform. I did all kinds of experiments back in the day. The ultimate setup for me was Dual Xeon E5450 with 12GB DDR3 RAM and a GTX 770. For Q6600 I would love to see a comparison using the "tape mod" where you place a small piece of tape on one of the bus pins on the processor. This trick allows him to reach 3.0 GHz on 1333 mhz. I used this trick on several Dell Optiplex machines. I still have my Dell Precision 690 rocking dual X5355 processors and a GTX285, even with an SSD, it is not a fast PC. Try some dual CPU motherboards, you will have a lot of fun and content. Also, GTX295 or GTX690 are super cool things to play with. Cool Video mate, keep up the good content.

i'm still amazed how my 14 years-old Q6600 @2,4 GHz works now in 2022. I using it in daily basis so far, recently i tried to find an excuse to change my build to some new one, but i failed. Thru those years of course i made a few improvments such as ssd, extra ram, "fancy" graphic card (GeForce GTX 560 Ti) that did the job. And still can play in modern games with cloud gaming services.

As someone who thifts for pc parts every week or so I just wanted to say that I no longer find 775 systems, its only Fm2, Win 98 Laptops or Intel 478 boards. Just wanted to add that :)

@ethand4784

2 жыл бұрын

that's a sad sad thing, I can find them sometimes but they're usually just family computers finally getting tossed

@FireFalcon

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethand4784 Yeah in my area DDR3 775 boards were as easy to find as 1st Gen Xbox 360s which was crazy.

Roughly 8 years ago, I remember being really impressed by how snappy a PC with a C2Q was. When my friends and I scrapped together a PC for another friend. So we all could play together that night. That machine is still chugging along.

I still use this in my daily driver. New subscriber. Great video.

@cyberp0et

2 жыл бұрын

Dell Latitude e4300 laptop with 2 Gb of RAM is my main computer.

So glad you are doing this video. Ive got given a old SFF PC with a E5500 in it. Ive been wondering if its worth spending the £10 on a CPU upgrade.

I'm always fascinated by old tech like this. I fished my old Tandy 1000 from my dad's attic a couple of years ago. My brother and I had to replace a few things, battery etc. We got it fired up. Fortunately, my dad also had an old CRT VHS combo for the display. Unfortunately, all of the old floppy disks were corrupted. Nonetheless, I still have it, and I still love it. Oh, we also found the old joystick. The one with the super thin stick and a tiny red button.

I had a Q8400 back in the day, that was the truly ultimate CPU back then, less cache than the 9000 series but that was it, high stock frequency, 45nm, paired with 1066MHz or better DDR2 and an easy 1GHz OC and it was a beast for the day. None of the C2Q CPUs really sang until you OC'd them you really need to start including OC results from a half decent P45 775 board ;)

@Pidalin

Жыл бұрын

I had E8200 with some OC back in 2008, it was superior to all those Athlons X2 which my friends mostly had in that time. 😀 But I noticed that AMD had lower ram latency, probably because memory controller was integrated into CPU.

@user-yv2cz8oj1k

Жыл бұрын

See, now I'm intrigued, because I was given an ITX machine with a Q6600 in it and it runs DDR3 memory, which I put 8GB in. Now I'm wondering what the fastest LGA775 CPU is that I can get in there for about £10 or £20. That and a modern SSD and it should go pretty quickly.

@Pidalin

Жыл бұрын

@@user-yv2cz8oj1k Q6600 is good enough, just overclock it to like 3 GHz

great vid keep it up m8

@MirekFe

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats. You're the first comment.

Great little chips! Maybe you could do a comparison of that era's AMD chips and if they are as usable today?

As I watch this on my q8400 machine I built in 2016, I honestly think that no cpu is obsolete until it can't do simple non-gaming tasks anymore, also I've been thinking of switching to a q6600 and overclocking it, could an overclocked q6600 beat a q8400? I know it has more cache so that makes me wonder, anyway, long live the core 2 quad!!!!

@GizmoTheGreen

2 жыл бұрын

mine overclocked to 3.4ghz. most of them did 3.0 without a sweat

@ethand4784

2 жыл бұрын

@@GizmoTheGreen I'll have to swap from my stock cooler but I'll definitely try it out

@rerewewrwrwrw

2 жыл бұрын

What's the power draw, though? Like, this kills the appeal for me until someone can point out its worth the cost.

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Difference between the 65nm and 45nm chips was maybe 6% in terms of architecture improvement. so at around 2.86 GHz you should break even for that, which is a joke for core 2 oc. In terms of what is posible, I'd say somewhere around 3.4-4.0 GHz should be archivable with both, but your board or RAM might limit you on that, and at that point the higher multi of the Q6600 will be your friend.

the Q6600 for £10 seems silly versus the i5 2500k for £15 which can overclock to near 5GHz

@canaconn2388

2 жыл бұрын

Frequency doesn't automatically mean better performance though, just look at bulldozer

@bonnome2

2 жыл бұрын

You don't buy the cpu. You buy an entire used pc with a q6600 at a local thriftshop or something

@williampaabreeves

2 жыл бұрын

@@canaconn2388 in this case it means a lot as 2nd Gen Core i series has incredible IPC for its time, with the overclock it rivals stock 7th gen i5s

@williampaabreeves

2 жыл бұрын

@@bonnome2 for £10 that is more worth it

@terrydaktyllus1320

2 жыл бұрын

You'd look rather silly trying to plug an i5 2500k CPU into an LGA775 socket.

Awesome video. Thanks!

I've been running my Q9650 for years. I only retired it this last year. She was a glorious work horse

Hey @Budget-Builds Official, I've got a question Why was everyone so obsessed with Quad-Core to put the label on random things?

@younglingslayer2896

2 жыл бұрын

Bc 4 betterer

I remember when I ordered my Q6600. Loved that quad core, worked great for the better part of a decade for me.

My first high end build was a c2q 9300 in 2008! Loved that thing, was basically the first of my friends with a quad core too! Also just recently restored a Dell XPS 630i and installed the top end q9650 in it. Bad company 2 was unplayable with the original c2d e8400 at 20 fps max. With the c2q 9650getting 45-70fps!

I'm curious what the FPS difference would be if you had used 16gb DDR2 @ 1066mhz and the Q9650?

The Q6600 has another trick up its sleeve. The BUS speed is set at 1066 but on most MOBOs you can block a pin that'll set the bus to 1333 making the Q6000 run at 3Ghz (rumoured it's original speed before intel nerfed it) I have this set in my mum's old Acer AIO that does NOT support Overclocking! I just bent the pin (in the lga socket) out the way! EDIT: The BSEL mod!

@petert.w.reynolds692

Жыл бұрын

thats insane, ive been also planning on modding my old cpu, what do you think with the Q9550 that's bus speed aready at 1333 ?

I was using my Q9550 for some years and this is phenomenal! The fact that you can still watch youtube, browse web, and even play games with a CPU from 2007 is just unbelievable! I think that pc with Q9650 and 8gb of ddr3 Ram will work fine even in 2030! Im not even sure that my i5 8400 will live that long life 😵‍💫

Wow! I had a Dell OptiPlex 755 with the Q6600 and it was really an awesome processor and system as a whole. I used it for almost a decade, from 2007 to 2016. Great memories with that computer!

@lagginswag

2 жыл бұрын

Still have one tape modded with 8gb ram, wd raptor hdds and an hd 7750. It barely gets any use now though. Filled it with ps3/360 era games and retro emulators 🤘

My second setup has Q9550 with a GT 1030 and it's very good. I played so many games with it like GTA 5, Bannerlord, PUBG, R6 Siege, CS GO...

Amazing. It’s unbelievable how much longer CPUs can stay relevant as opposed to GPUs

I'm on a q8200 right now! I can say it is brilliant and a good upgrade over the Core 2 Duo e6750 for £5! Good old CEX.

Up until sometime in late 2021, my daily driver for gaming was a water-cooled QX9770 3.2 GHz (Yorkfield) on the X48 chipset with 1600 MHz FSB and 8 GB dual channel DDR3-1600. It was a quite capable albeit a little power hungry system. Paired with a proper video card, (I had a STRIX 1660 in it at the end) it's still a rock solid platform for anything that requires powerful single threading over anything else. The lack of hyper-threading, high clock speeds and support for SSE4.1 meant that you could keep one of these for 14 years which is a huge plateau that surely offset the steep initial investment. I found that the real bottleneck was the onboard SATA2 so instead I used a Muskin Scorpion Deluxe (quad SandForce SF-2881 mSATA SSDs in RAID 0 using a LSI SAS controller on a PCIe card) which gave me full 1 GB/s on the available PCIe 1.1 x4 slot instead of the theoretical 600 MB/s of SATA2. Overall, it made for a very snappy and responsive system.

My dream retro PC is a Q6600 with dual 8800GT's in SLI

The core2quad was never a true quad core cpu. It was 2 duel core dies bolted or "glued" onto the substrate. You can Google images that show this. Ironic that intel at one time accused AMD of gluing together dies. Keep up the amazing work dude. These processors can be purchased from cex in the UK for less than £5.

@bestopinion9257

2 жыл бұрын

Aka Dual (Dual Core)

My C2 experience is of the Duo variety, but still an impressive processor - the E8200. Back then it managed multitasking (even with my somewhat extreme use cases) just fine, but the main speed came from the overclock - I took it from 2.66 to 3.5 ghz on the stock cooler (lol). The temps were fine and it held stable, and it survived for 5 odd years. At some point around 2013 I realized how much the OC helped it, as a BIOS update I applied had reset it and the slowdown was too noticeable.

This CPU is in my 2007 For-Vista PC(that my dad picked up from a deposit, because it wasn't used anymore) and it hold (yeah, with Windows Vista) the majority of the times games and with Windows 7 or 8.1(I have both, idk why) even Minecraft or Roblox. I really love how good is this CPU :-)

Used to have a Q9550 on the legendary DFI LanParty P45 T2RS+ board. Overclocked that thing from 2.8 all the way to 4.2 ghz. It was a pretty huge OC for that chip, even with watercooling, it was difficult to keep the temps under control. Used that CPU for several years, paired with an SLI of GTX460s and 12 GB of DDR3. I used to be so proud of it, it ran Crysis 2 in 1080P with settings maxed out, including DX11 and the HD texture pack at over 80 fps. This thing was quite a beast back in 2011 xD

A Q6600-based machine I built for myself circa 2008 is still my NEWEST machine. Handles overclocking very gracefully, though for how I use it, I've never felt the need to run it above about 2.8 GHz for extended periods. I'm not into gaming, but it's illuminating to see how well it still runs many games.

I still have a few Q9550 PCs. They are really good CPUs to start building your first PC systems with, perfectly usable and cheap. CEX in the UK is a good place to start.

C2Q Q6600 was my first cpu in my LGA775 MB pc build back in 2007... (my first personal 'gaming' pc that i've saved for, searched component info and successful compability on many many forum pages- different times then, there where no easy yt test/review videos that told you everything 😉and built completely myself as a young 15yo hardware enthusiast) Ahh the memories! 😏I was so proud!

@boiledliddo

2 жыл бұрын

good memories indeed.

Straight away as soon as your video started, I just thought that the price of those Core 2 Quads isn't worth it, considering you can get a decent older Core i5 for around the same price, such as the i5-2500. Heck, you can get an even older one for even less. It's bonkers how you can get such bang for your buck on ebay. But hey, that's not the point of the video 😝 I was amazed though when you stated how much Core 2 Quads were new, oh my goodness... Really enjoyed as always. I'm missing the brief Summer Fields track from your more recent videos too. I'd never heard that before watching one of your older videos. Damn, it's SUCH a gorgeous, peaceful and thought provoking bit of music 🥰😊

I upgraded from an E4300, to an E6300, to the Q6600. My god, with my Asus HD 4850 I felt unstoppable in 2008! This brings back so many memories of tweaking the old socket 775 beast at the middle of the night, increasing the clockspeed a couple of MHz at a time. Better days.

The C2Q really shined for overclocking. I had a Xeon e5450 that unfortunately only clocked to 3.6 GHz but was still pretty good as a secondary rig

I still have an q8200 with 4gigs of ddr2 ram on a asrock g31 board topped up with a 240gb ssd, corsair cx430 and a Gt1030 and I play GTA V on that sometimes. That shit is still kicking in CSGO, L4D2 MP ... nothing can beat that in terms of value.

i still remember having a core 2 dual dell pc and later upgraded to a 3ghz quad core and the boot time being way faster lol. this was my work horse for a few more years till i got a sandy bridge 6 core cpu.

I got my Q9450 back in 2009 for very low price (new) -- those were the days of really affordable high-end PC parts. I didn't really have to buy it, but because the offer was so tempting I upgraded anyway and held it for less than a year before finally moving on to LGA1366, which was the original upgrade path, as my first quad-core rig. It wasn't that good overclocker, compared to the previous E8400 it replaced, but sufficient enough and I didn't really pushed it hard, since this was my last LGA775 system.

Nice. I have a Q6600 that was rescued from the being recycled, use it as a test bed system for testing hard drives, cloning etc. Does perform quite well. Collectible CPU perhaps in 3o yrs time?

My wife's daily driver pc is a Dell Q6600. I put the Doom 3 demo on it when we first bought it, but that is the only gaming it has ever done. At the time, it was quite impressive, but as you say, this was fifteen years ago. It still does the email, document processing and web browsing for which she uses it just fine.

These processors were absolute beasts and I had one that id upgraded everything else around it for well over a decade and it still kept on chugging. Finally had to call it a day about 4 years ago when it just couldn’t hold up anymore at all

I had a Q6600 back in the day. It replaced my Opteron 175 dual core. I love that CPU. After I upgraded to something different, I used it in a file server till very recently.

The Q6600 was my first quad core cpu and was my jump back to intel from using AMD 64 x2. I got mine after the price dropped and was a great value, especially if you overclocked since these CPUs were great for it.

Oh man, the core2quad was basically my go to when i built budget pcs as a teen in the 2010s .

great video. These chips do tend to overclock half decent (although not as well as the core 2 duo). I have a QX6700 I intend to put under some LN2 in the too distant future.

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Will be eager to see that happen 👍

My sister got a Macbook for her Highschool Graduation (The old PowerPC kind), and two years later I got a Q9400. I upgraded from one of those dual-core Celerons, and wowee, it was good. Then I saved up money and upgraded my 2600XT to a HD 4850, and it was amazing... I remember I asked some friends on a gaming forum what to buy for my budget before I knew anything... Now everything sucks :(

@ChristianRogersMoneyBruh

2 жыл бұрын

The old PowerPC Apple laptops were actually iBooks and PowerBooks, not MacBooks. They changed the name when switching over to Intel processors.

I still use q6600s in my fpga development systems and I also have a couple of hp5750 systems upgraded to 8gig RAM and AMD Dual Core 6000+ which also still perform well in my dev systems. As long as they do their job I've never seen a need to replace them. I do have modern systems that work happily in tandem with the old ones

Up until recently I used an overclocked Q6600 in my MAME cabinet. Being a Dell mobo, I used the tape method and it runs well overclocked. It even runs Street Fighter IV magnificently (paired with an NVidia 9600gt).

These CPUs were solid for many years for sure. I remember i had one quad and i had it for 7years and then my second streaming PC got it for another 6years. And now it sits in a XP retro build 😉