Today we’re joined by the theologian, pastor and former Bible college principle Brian Harris. He’s also the author of a new book called Stirrers and Saints; Forming spiritual leaders of skill, depth and character. In this book Brian talks about how leadership in the church really matters but he points out that it’s often undermined because of toxic leaders who hit the headlines. This book offers a timely appeal for all personality types to answer God’s call to be leaders in the church, providing what he describes as “saintly” leadership.