Why do I always get a big smile when I see one of Way Out West's videos pop up?

@krazykreaper504

9 ай бұрын

It’s only the natural reaction

@jappedut9009

9 ай бұрын

Me too 😅

Hi Tim, I don't know if you realise this but you have inadvertently created a resonance chamber around the hub motor. Much like a guitar frame, the plywood body is vibrating and exponentially increasing the engine noise. Some acoustic foam or sound deadening compound will make for a much quieter ride.

Imagine a gang of fifty of these glorious machines, cresting over the hill as ride of the valykeries plays. Very eager to build my own so we can make this a reality.

@awatt

9 ай бұрын

I love the smell of motorised plywood in the morning...

I am 74 and wanting electric transport for more mobility on and off road I bought a 24in 6speed adult trike. I was going to use a hub drive, but with little weight on the front wheel it was impracticable. So I bought a complete Bafang mid drive system. The benefit of this system is you still have six speeds, unlike the hubs one. With a set of knobbly tires I am mobile once again.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

9 ай бұрын

I couldn't get a free mid-drive motor - but this seems good too. And I still have 6 speeds too

@dalvenable331

9 ай бұрын

I am not the biggest mid drive fan but your application is spot on for a three wheel bike I found the front wheel set up just does not feel or do right. on a flat slow ride fine, but try to climb a steep hill and your wheel spins. You take off on dirt or gravel the wheel spins. yes the mid drive is the best way to go on a trike out side of hooking a motor right to the rear axle.

@ianturpin9180

9 ай бұрын

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 yes but your 6 speeds are pedal driven the electric motor being one speed. . My midi drive has 6 available gears with "no" pedal power. Living in Teignmouth Devon there is very little flat ground so the ability to climb hills is imperative. You are lucky for the freebie. The trike only cost £150 from amazon but the midi system with battery was the best part of £1000.

@another3997

9 ай бұрын

​@@ianturpin9180 It may not be of concern to many riders, but does bear thinking about. As much as I disagree with the rules, if motor assistance can take you over 15.5mph in any gear, it is technically illegal to ride on public roads or cycle paths in the UK, unless registered as a motor vehicle, and taxed etc. That's not a problem, unless you're stopped by a police officer or are ever involved in a road "incident". If they notice, they will almost certainly seize your very expensive pride and joy, check it, and then it won't be returned. And maybe give you a fine too. I spoke to two police officers who had just relieved someone of their brand new, expensive, but illegal electric scooter. It was going to be crushed. A very expensive mistake.

@lmaoroflcopter

9 ай бұрын

​@@another3997His kit will have a software speed limitation that cuts the assistance out at 15.5mph. You can pedal faster than that all you like, but you cannot be assisted beyond that. Biggest issue on legality is police confiscating and scrapping bikes that are limited, pedal assist only, but do not have a manufacturer's motor plate fitted stating the max continuous power rating or max speed and voltage. No kits ever come labelled appropriately.

You are so lucky there's only a single rear wheel, now!

Tim, pimp is one word I never would've thought I'd hear from you. You truly are a funny guy. Sandra must've been taken with your sense of humor when you first met. 😂😂😂 You make me laugh during every video.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

9 ай бұрын

Thanks Tracy : - )

"Bloody hell! This is great!" I concur. I especially enjoyed watching the installation of the cassette. I've done this so many times myself for the customers of my bike shop. Intriguing to watch a fellow talented do-it-yourselfer handle a normally routine and mundane task.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

9 ай бұрын

My first time - but I got there in the end!

Put in hub dynamo, modern light have capacitor inside so they light up several minutes after you have stopped. Then your lights always work, even the battery is empty.

The type of "sprocket" you had is the old freewheel type (where the free wheeling stuff is inside the unit), the new type uses a freehub body on the wheel hub and the "sprocket" is just a cassette of gears. The reason I write all this is that if a bike is old/cheap enough to have the old freewheel thing (and rim brakes...) I don't think it's wise converting it to an e-bike :D

I'm gonna have to check out this electric conversion set because I've been considering this for my bike for a while

Bloody brilliant!.... exactly what's needed for most personal journeys.

@BenMitro

9 ай бұрын

Most people will be aghast at your comment. I support it wholeheartedly.

Wow!! this is another one of your projects where persistence, trial and error, more trial and modifications, in this instance ends in a fabulous outcome. Well done to all of you.

Fantastic 'Heath Robinson' style Cycle car , now with hub motor for pedal assist 👏 👌

Your smiles say it all! Well done for your perseverance.

Wow! we have lift off. Every video is a new adventure. Great stuff.

A "DC Buck Converter" will give you 12v from the 36v battery. I recommend lights rated for a range of voltages like 12v-48v or even 12v-100v. They can be simply powered from any battery in that range.

Just brilliant 🤩 Tim such a genius we love watching and what you do.Just amazing and inspiring and fantastic.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

GREAT !!! What next Tim ? A space rocket maybe ? Powered by steam !!!! now that'll be a novelty :)

Looks like you need lights and fenders for the mud puddles. ♥ 🤘😁

Its looking really good Tim and the fun lement must be off the scale!

Amazing! Even Caractacus Potts would be jealous!

some caution from building one of these personally. the spoked bicycle wheels are designed primarily to take loads through vertical axis. but mounting these wheels rigid, and the vehicle not 'leaning' into curves, the wheels are exposed to high lateral loads while turning. This has the tendency to warp the rim and brake spokes. upgrading the spokes to heavier gauge helps alot. or swapping them to unspoked wheels.

@awatt

9 ай бұрын

Would smaller wheels help?

@jimholloway6315

9 ай бұрын

I broke alot of rims, they just don't take the lateral loads. Swapping the spokes to heavier gauge helped, swapping to non spoked wheels helped even more (think 1980s mag wheels) @@awatt

Best bit of R&D is trying things out along the way, especially when they are fun. Seams like they are a good company to buy from, especially as they appear to over provide which is always useful. 👍 Was that one car a traffic jam, my cousin used to live in rural Ireland and if they had 2 cars and a tractor going through the village, the would talk about it for weeks calling if a huge traffic jam. 😂🤣😂

My bike rusted in place, found out when got out to give to my brother to us so no bike for me. Yet know I want a bike so I can buy one of those kits. Electric bike mod's for a push bike seems such a great idea!

@Paul_Au

9 ай бұрын

My bike, "Giant" brand, has an aluminum frame. Maybe something to consider?

I find your videos as amusing as ai do informitive. You hace some really great ideas along with the knowledge and patience to see things thru. Hats off to you Tim. Follow your dreams.

We have a very similar motor setup on our recumbent trikes. It's just 250W but gets along quite well, and lets us go places without getting tired. I found the cheap battery pack was not up to scratch though - apparently many of these bike battery packs use recycled cells from various sources, and they don't have the capacity they are specced for. We ended up paying for an expensive samsung battery pack which we haven't so far been able to flatten. Just a tip, if you do flatten the battery, don't do as I did and keep resetting it to eke out more distance. These Lion batteries don't like being drawn down below the cut off value and it does permanent harm. 👍🇦🇺

@Ben1551

9 ай бұрын

Resetting to get more range is how fires start, If i bring any lithium batteries under their shut off voltage it goes in the bin

@valentin0000

9 ай бұрын

@@Ben1551 Well, actually they only may set on fire if you then charge it again, but the risk is not that high.

@Ben1551

9 ай бұрын

@@valentin0000 you're not wrong, as long as they are under 2.5v or something the dendrites will grow but yeah if it's been 5 minutes it's not a problem

Awesome to see how well this project is going!

Great to see it all come together. :)

That looks brilliant :)

Great! the only trouble is "legality" - here in UK at least, it would have to be "pedal assist" For example using throttle to control e-motor makes it into a moped, with all the nonsense of "individual vehicle approval", MOT, insurance etc... 350 watt is also illegal (whatever you think about this particular law). subscribed and will follow!!!

Nice! I went through this experience 8 years ago with a 2kW golden motor MP5, and it's still running great. It's like upgrading your legs to couple of athletes! I recommend using torque arms on the axle so lock it in place and make sure it doesn't spin and eat the dropouts, and make sure the axle nuts are very tight.

I saw a similar vehicle in Conway, New Hampshire, USA last week. It looked to be fiberglass, and the driver was enclosed. NOTE: It was so low to the ground, that I looked right over the top and almost didn't see him from my van. He was much lower to the ground than a regular bicyclist would be. Bright colors suggested!

@bobboy61

9 ай бұрын

A little flag on a pole works too

@IvoTichelaar

9 ай бұрын

It's called a velomobile and they are designed for aerodynamics rather than practical use. Very impressive performance from them, though.

Looks like you had a lot of fun!

That looks like great fun!!!

Excellent Progress you guy's! I own an electric bicycle and it has both twist grip throttle (Limited to the max legal 15.5mph / 25kph) and selectable degree's of peddle assist from 1 to 5 also limited to the same 15.5 mph. What it also has which I LOVE, is without peddling it has a 4mph / 6kph walking mode when the throttle is applied, which I find gives me enough momentum to keep me stable whilst I push off and swing my leg over, and also assistance pulling away at lights effectively eliminating the LAG that you mentioned before the sensor detects peddle movement, a GREAT feature. It also of course has road lights front and back, but, what I would also like to do is add a double USB power point, to charge my 'SATMAP' unit and Phone, or, when in use video Bar Cam. for this reason I'll be watching very closely your further progress to see how you achieve power for your lights if not by using an extra Motorcycle battery. The very best of wishes with your Super Car Project.

@m00nscaping76

9 ай бұрын

PS: I'm 75 and this bike has changed my life! It was bought at the end of July this year "little used" with 80miles on the odometer, which I zeroed. And in spite of the crap weather we've had in the UK, today I hit the 240miles mark on the odometer by going out on 10 - 16ml local circular journey's so that I'm not too far from home. The car is barely used. LOL

Wow. Impressive little beast!

Love it Tim! Keep up the good work

Great job.

What a great project. I enjoyed it

Love it when a plan comes together!

Superb piece of kit. Wish I had had one when building carts at school in the fifties.

What a formula! I watched, I listened and a smile simply grew on my face. Well done all crew members. Thank you 😀

Congratulations!

Superb job Tim 😀😀😃

You should make you a trailer to carry shopping but make it a pusher trailer. Another motor and bigger battery.. Good job. Good luck

Looking very smart

Now that looks fun. You seem to have made now a wooden Sinclair C5

Seeing you bomb around in that thing makes me so happy!

Thanks Tim 😊

A delicious episode. Looking forward for a more detailed test of the wheel, max speed, video from the cockpit, and autonomy, thank you!

That looks like fun, and pretty cool too!!! Good job Tim, and crew ofcourse!

I've used Voilamarts on my trikes for years. They run pretty quiet and have the power. Only complaint i have is the wiring harness for the wheel connects at the control box rather than close to the wheel. so if you have to do maintenance you have to pretty pull most of the cable you ran to get it off and service.

Another thought \ opinion: Even though there is no debate that 4 wheels offer improved stability and performance, My honest opinion is the boat tail design is beautiful even in its current "testing phase". Another argument in favor of the boat tail design is it is more energy efficient to help with battery life. Fewer wheels means less rolling resistance and less rotational mass. Also the boat tail design is more aerodynamic.

@panzerwolf494

9 ай бұрын

'Nother thing to think about if you have four wheels, either you'll only power one wheel, or you have to have both wheels on an axle locked which increases tire wear since the wheels can't turn at their own speeds. Unless you can figure out a differential system for it

Continued enjoyment of watching this series on your pedal car. Thanks.

Now you know why recumbent e-trikes are popular. They are a blast to ride. I’m 79 and ride mine almost every day. Your car gives people a way to build a trike so you can have one without having to spend an “arm and a leg”.

Well that was lots of fun just to watch, my experience making entertaining stuff gives me an idea of how much fun it was to do. Loud applause!

Nice one bro all that effort paid off. I guess you could run lights off an old dynamo mounted on one of the front wheels somehow incorporated with a mudguard. Mix old with new. Safe travels. Ken.

Hi all, love it, many thanks from Nr Chester.

Great build! You can buy inexpensive DC to DC converters for 48 volts to 12 volts, or 48 volts to 5 volts. I have the 5 volt DC to DC version on my ebike, and use a plug in USB light as headlight and taillight. I think you might not even need to open up your battery or splice into the wires- test with a voltmeter your charge port. I think it has the 48 volts active at the port, just install a plug and switch .

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

9 ай бұрын

Interesting idea - thanks. I'll investigate..

Well done Tim, and Will. So the Sinclair C5 was a good idea after all, just (as often is) ahead of its time, and the available technology. Hmm. Les in UK

Wooden cars are the future. ❤

Abso-bloody-lutely briliant!!! 👍 😄

The car is looking good.

Yuppers, a small teardrop trailer & you're off on a cross-ireland adventure! Who needs horses to go trail riding when you've got an electric trike w/ a caravan trailer?

just needs one of them old 5 trumpet air horns now

Amazing, I admire all the skill, brilliant projects and imagination.

Out of the shed and full throttle round the tree. Tim McRae 👍

How fabulous. What great fun! I am looking at doing a conversion on my bike and am really looking forward to it. 😊🏆

Brilliant! Well done Tim 👍

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

9 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

Great video...👍

That is really cool.

Oooh that is just amazing. Also one could make it out of plastic but to make it from wood is very green indeed.

Kudos. Your coolest project ever. Frank

Dang straight !!! Now thats sweet , You might want a second battery just in case and solar panels and Radio and wipers and mirrors ! lol. Ya know your going to have to make your wife one now only make a station wagon ! LOL. I can see it now an all wheeled powered 3 wheel station wagon and pickup truck !

How wonderful you guys did it. I did have my doubts at first as I sure you did but no you have built it.

And now I want to build myself one too.

I love your videos.

I like the Fred Flintstone style reverse gear

I like the Fred Flintstone reverse gear lol

I love it!

Great video. I'd recommend a safety stop to cut all power in case there's some sort of emergency.

Brilliant 😊

My wife and I have both a trike (the wife's) and a 2 wheeled bike (mine) that use kits (front hub motors) that are different brands but both are almost identical to this kit. Regenerative braking is an option in both of them. You actually have the ability (in the menu system) to set the amount of braking force. I have the trike set to 2. My wife is a little more conservative than I. I have my 2 wheeled bike set to 3. I really don't want to lock the front wheel up with regenerative braking. I was not able to use the supplied brake levers on my 2 wheeler because my gear shifting is incorporated to the brake levers, so I purchaed a electric horn button and mounted that to the handlebars and connected it to the electric part of the brake circuit. This means regenerative braking on my bike is not actually related to the hand controls for the brakes. As for the tiny instruction book, I downloaded the pdf from the manufacturers website on the internet and then printed it scaled up to 150% or something so that its 2 pages to an A4 sheet. Makes it easy to read.

@tme2912

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the Yose power does not have the regenerative brake. what is the brand of your kit ?

@Paul_Au

9 ай бұрын

@@tme2912 KZread will not allow me to name names.

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

9 ай бұрын

Thanks Paul - interesting. I'm sure you could find a way to tell us the name?

This is what Sir Clive Sinclair was trying to acheive.

very cool!

There was back in the day little light kits you could get for bycicles that had a dynamo that attached to the frame and ran against the tire to power it, might still be available

Great news!

Since the motor is in the hub and a chain is not necessary to use it, the car could potentially be converted into a three-wheel drive. The chain could be kept on the rear wheel so that it would still technically be a motor assisted peddle car.

The car is marvelous. Your were all smiling wide driving it. 3 wheels are not so bad really. Now you have a working mule to run tests on, tweek the suspension, seating position, soft top etc. Iam so happy for you all. Cheers 🇨🇦

I'm so excited for you! I've been daydreaming about building a neighborhood electric vehicle styled after the Brass Era cars/buggies but I just don't quite have the time and shop skills yet

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

9 ай бұрын

Go for it, Kimberly!

That's great thanks

Fantastic thanks

glorious!

tim its coming along nicely and perhaps dual front hub motors will be a future upgrade. i still feel there is a lack of rigidity in key areas ...did i see the plywood flexing as you inserted the rear wheel? i also have reservations with plywood in your climate even marine plywood dislikes continuous change of moisture levels and i suspect it will require encapsulation in epoxy or similar material to keep it from delineating. hows the frame flex under way? slight adjustment to steering proportions would give a tighter turning radius but it is serviceable as is... then the aesthetics and styling lol thanks for the videos looking forward to more

@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299

9 ай бұрын

thank you. Yes, there's still some flex - but that should lessen when the body is joined up properly, and the plan all along is to epoxy the ply

Just a thought, both front wheels powered, rear wheel powered in Reverse. Probably not road legal but great fun.

Getting chitty chitty bang bang vibes here 😂

You can also look for a DC-DC converter to reduce the 36V down to 12V for lights. You are having a lot of fun. Well done. Very nice kit.

@chrisridethatbloodything2044

9 ай бұрын

Some old motorcycle headlamps would fit perfectly. With high and low beam.

@aaronhunter7026

9 ай бұрын

Agreed on the DC-DC converter. Might also be able to wire three 12V lights in series to avoid a converter.

probably a silly suggestion, get a second powered wheel, put the two electric motors on the front, and you have all wheel drive when pedaling. :)

This is brilliant, what a fantastic bit of kit! Well done for persevering with your car!

I think it could use music! Crash helmet on, safety squints engaged! Looks like fun but be careful, it only takes one serious smack on the noggin to put an end to the fun forever.