THIS, is how you do an instructional video, every thing I need nothing I don’t!

Best installation video of the airliner online!

A massive thank you for being the only person on You Tube to demonstrate the AirLiner installation done correctly with the sealant pour in method, as opposed to through the valves!

@AnAvidCyclist

10 ай бұрын

Ha! Thanks. Honestly it’s so easy why mess with an injector?

I use these liners for my 40mm Tufo Thundero's too. Fantastic for those who ride harder/underbike as it allows you to run the pressure you like and go a little more the speeds you want. For lighter and or less aggressive riders, it makes the air-spring in the tyre too progressive (in that it becomes harder for actually use the full travel of the tyre, to the point it becomes too harsh on compressions and too squishy on hard surfaces if run at pressures ideal to absorb medium/larger hits). Basically the same logic as setting up the spring rate on a MTB with lighter/less aggressive riders adding too many tokens. FYI - I have the same Spurcycle bell. Try flipping it the other way so the bell faces in. Looks cleaner (and IMO easier to use with the mounted towards you). Great videos so far. To the point, comprehensive and well rounded opinions. Keep it up!

@AnAvidCyclist

Жыл бұрын

Great point about aggressiveness and speed impacting your experience here. And thank you for the kind words.

Thanks for sharing. I've been eyeing the Airliner gravel inserts for my new gravel build. Nice to see they're not a total bear to install.

@AnAvidCyclist

6 ай бұрын

No worse than an inner tube. Actually easier since there’s no risk of pinching it!

Great video. I'm running the Tannus version on 42mm gravel tyres, and I love the peace of mind they give me on the rough stuff.

@AnAvidCyclist

Жыл бұрын

I hadn’t seen those before. Looks like it’s primarily for snake bite. Any experience with how it works as a bead-lock when flat?

@captain1664

Жыл бұрын

@@AnAvidCyclist thankfully not so far, but I think they would be great.

Great install vid. I can't help but think Vittoria designed these around a very Italian and 2018 view of gravel tyres (ie, strada bianche and 35 is a real fattie!). I just can't see them offering much protection or progression in a 43/45/50mm tyre. In fact, checking their website it does recommend for '31 to 40mm' tyres. I checked their XC 29" trail insert (you could cut it for 700c), but its for min 2.1", so a bit moto for gravel, but would probably squeeze into a 50mm... With the growth in gravel tyres, I'd expect bigger inserts from Vittoria soon.

@AnAvidCyclist

Жыл бұрын

I did the same check when the XC came out. I imagine the bead lock quality has more to do with the internal rim width.

Hello, good videos, we are using some of the same or similar products, I have had good experiences with the air liner and the flexible seat post, regards

@AnAvidCyclist

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the encouragement. Have you tried anything else recently I should be thinking about?

@alvarezkeko

Жыл бұрын

@@AnAvidCyclist yes, I have tried Selle Italia Flite boost kit carbonio superflow saddle, Vittoria air liner road, exchange damaged rims to gravel wheels, Continental Grand Prix 5000 S TR tires, Continental 4 season 28 mm clincher, Continental Terra Speed 40 mm gravel and various tools for maintenance work on bicycles, I have several videos on my KZread channel, I invite you to visit it, greetings from the mountainous south of Mexico.

Hi, do you think have some real suspension or bump compilance? Since i will use in a 33c tire i read that with this small widths sometimes its just better have all the volume on air to have more suspension filling. Could you put the tubeless milk with injection? Thanks

@AnAvidCyclist

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you could inject sealant through the valve. I just prefer pouring it in. :)

Are you still enjoying the Vittoria liners? I'm thinking about installing them for Unbound this year.

@AnAvidCyclist

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, running them again this year in my bigger tires. Leaves me less worried about running low pressure and damaging carbon rims. The weight cost is pretty minimal so there isn’t much reason not to run them if you have them. IMO, of course!

Hi, do you think have some real suspension or bump compilance? Since i will use in a 33c tire i read that with this small widths sometimes its just better have all the volume on air Thanks

@AnAvidCyclist

Жыл бұрын

In terms of suspension, I’d say its a firmer level of squishy. With just air its super squishy (at low pressures) and when you load the foam its less squishy. You can feel the difference on a hit where you’d normally bottom out on the rim. With the rough fire roads I ride, I’d use the gravel liner at 33mm. You could use the Large road liner, it’s supposed to be a lighter weight foam and take up less volume while still holding the bead in place in the event of a flat. The Vittoria website says the Road Large is for 30/32mm tires. Good luck!

@gabrielmarias972

Жыл бұрын

@@AnAvidCyclist thanks! So with 33c tire (max i can use in my road frame) maybe with the road L foam could have a bit more "comfort" since will have a touch more air chamber right? I see the foams have different form so no idea which will work better. I will use wit alu 22c rims so more than for punctures, im looking some extra comfort due cant run bigger tires, so not sure if this foams will help.

@AnAvidCyclist

Жыл бұрын

@gabrielmarias972 you’ll likely get the most comfort improvement by lowering the tire pressure. There’s several good calculators online, silca has one. The risk to lowering the pressure is you’re more likely to bottom out the rim, the liners will definitely help you in that case and allow you to more safely run these lower pressures. If you aren’t going to lower the pressure and don’t bottom out the rim, then the liners won’t likely help much with the comfort. I agree with you on the Road vs Gravel foam, I haven’t used the road version so can’t speak from experience there.

Can I use this on a wheelchair tire ?

@AnAvidCyclist

Жыл бұрын

I imagine you could with a couple caveats, the wheel would need to use a 700c or 650b rim. Many modern sleek looking wheelchairs seem to be using these standard bike rims. But you’d also need to be running the pneumatic tires tubeless with sealant. I don’t know if that’s common or not. Good luck!

Why would they not make them continuous for 700c and show you how to cut them down and use the zip tie for 650b?

@AnAvidCyclist

4 ай бұрын

I have no idea!!

It's disgraceful what manufacturers charge for a bit of foam. I'll be going down the DIY store product route.

@AnAvidCyclist

11 ай бұрын

Agreed. Make sure whatever you get doesn’t absorb your sealant. The MTB folks have shown these Vittoria’s to be pretty durable. I believe they are made of EVA, like shoes. Not sure if you can find it shaped well for a rim.

Why are people wasting their time with so many tyre systems? We already have Tubulars!

@AnAvidCyclist

9 ай бұрын

Ha! Tough to get an insert in there!

@markcarlton

9 ай бұрын

@@AnAvidCyclist Haha, true, but when they're not needed why complicate things unnecessarily when a better system already exists.

@JackMott

4 ай бұрын

*scrapes glue*

@markcarlton

4 ай бұрын

I don't think you understand the difference between what is good and what you're told is good.​@@JackMott

@JackMott

4 ай бұрын

​​@markcarlton I do a lot of power meter testing and coach and manage equipment for professionals who win races and have a pretty good grasp of what is going on. But everyone has different use cases and maybe tubulars is best for your needs. I never liked scraping the glue off to change tires, and once clinchers and now tubeless had the same or better rolling resistance I was out. I don’t use inserts either though, haven’t found them necessary in an XC racing context, if I was prepping someone for paris roubaix or downhill mtb prolly worth the hassle there. What do you like about tubulars these days?