Installing the dormer staircase
This final episode in the series shows how we install the staircase into the loft. We used a company called Stairbox, which provides very cost effective and strong staircases.
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Really enjoying this; thank you. Daughter's loft conversion coming soon. I'm not doing it but it's really good to get an inside take on how things proceed. Peter
@OfficeBoyBuilder
Жыл бұрын
Glad it's helped!
Bear grylls if he was a builder 😂😂. Top work!! Look forward to your next project
Nice work, but I'm sorry I couldnt accept that gap. When I use to make and fit Kite Winder staircases measurement is everything. Also you could have packed off the trimmer at the top nosing and closed that gap.
@OfficeBoyBuilder
Жыл бұрын
Yup, agreed! I've just posted a video showing how to measure correctly (we didn't measure that staircase!) And I've got a video coming up in the next week showing how to fit one that has been measured properly...stay tuned!
Nice video, didnt like the gap on stairs, suprised the client is happy with that!? I would have been a bit annoyed about it. Congrats on 1k subs!
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, I'm really pleased to have hit that milestone. Agreed about the gap, really not ideal 🙄
@b21playa
3 жыл бұрын
I would have wanted it replaced
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I would have too...we didn't take the measurements or order it, so it wasn't our call in this instance.
@b21playa
3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficeBoyBuilder fair play. Guess if it wasn’t your error, it was up to client to deckde
@MsEaststreet
3 жыл бұрын
You should of packed the staircase off of the trimmer, thus taking it tight to the wall.
As a rule stair width of stairs is always measured outside of string to outside of string. An internal measurement would be for regs where it's measured from wall to handrail. Minimum is 800mm on private dwelling stairs. Although I measure the 800mm to the newel post because generally the newel post is always wider and the first contact before handrail
@Lucidchronicles
2 жыл бұрын
I read minimum width was removed now.
@snwman862
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucidchronicles has to be minimum width for stairs for regulations for access. Only reason stair width wouldn't need regulations is when access to lofts or storage access. If it's to another domestic room needs regulations.
Good work lads, we ordered almost exactly the same one last week so perfect video. Keep your the good work 👏
Very nice and well done! Though in the States, StairBox is an interesting concept!
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it! It's pretty new concept here too, but they're nearly 1/3 of the price of a traditional staircase, so it's definitely a winner.
The gap would have been ideal for some led stair lights.
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion! The client was quite happy with a wider ledge because his son can slide his cars down it 🤣
Most chippys I have worked with make up the top of stair on floor lower it in and put bottom straight bit in
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I've seen that technique too - we were being a bit cautious because it was the first time we had used a Stairbox set before.
Glad it's not just me who measures stairs wrong, I wouldn't be using those coach bolts fixed into the wall with resin either, you've used wedges to tighten up but as soon as those wedges come loose all your fixings will be loose. You should have used studs and tightened them after the resin had set
@TheToolnut
3 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine those packers were glued to the wall and the stringer. Can't see it going anywhere to be honest, 🔨 🇮🇪
@TheToolnut
3 жыл бұрын
One thing though, if one is using a polyurethane glue make sure to wet one side of the joint, 👍 🔨 🇮🇪
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
That's super interesting..! I've never heard or seen that being done before.
Could of pushed the stringer to the wall and doubled up the trimmer and added 65mm strip to the floor board.
@kallumbaston378
3 жыл бұрын
was just about to put that. you'd still have that gap down bottom set of winders though.
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The problem was that the steps were measure inside the stringer, not outside the stringers...so that 60mm gap was good much to make up any other way
@malcolmchadwick4047
3 жыл бұрын
@@kallumbaston378 yes you would have a gap at the bottom. As it is such a small wall I would dot and dab a piece of plasterboard on then skim it. Better than having a gap all the way up the main run.
Good job with what you had I've fitted many staircases, just for future you could have packed the stairs off the trimmer/ joist opening too close the gap on the wall but well done 👍
@OfficeBoyBuilder
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@alexlindridge7996
2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficeBoyBuilder staircase surveying is a whole job in itself as you know lol not my job 👍 where you guys from ?
@OfficeBoyBuilder
2 жыл бұрын
We're in South East London mate 👍
When you show us the finished stairs. It will be interesting to see how the handrail goes on.
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
I'm heading back there shortly to do a wrap up video, so you can see it then 👍👍
Excellent work, well done. July 20 21 at the moment was looking forward to seeing how it was finished just wondered whether you’re going back to check it out and show us, like you said. Cheers 👍
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I will, I'm actually helping the client on a different project soon, so I will arrange a recap film tour! Thanks mate
@Giovan_Nino
3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficeBoyBuilder Brilliant, look forward to it.
New apprentice: "What can I do lads?" Boss: "We want you to carry the stairs up the stairs" New guy: "haha sure! it's one of those pranks isnt it! I bet you play that on all the new apprentices!"
It couldnt have been flush against the wall anyway pal you've got a window there further down which baffles me also.
Turned out great thank you for taking the time the film and edit the video it was very interesting. Cheers M
Good work, nice job .... that 80mm gap for the staircase is shocking!! If I did that to a client , I wouldn't get paid. The capping looks horrible & client could have a 80mm wider staircase. Other than that good work.
@OfficeBoyBuilder
2 жыл бұрын
When it's the client that measures and orders the staircase, there's not a lot anyone can do...!
is your day job in an office or is it doing loft extensions?
@OfficeBoyBuilder
Жыл бұрын
Full time office job mate 💪
@alanmcevoy1467
Жыл бұрын
@@OfficeBoyBuilder good stuff fair play...you give great advice
@OfficeBoyBuilder
Жыл бұрын
Cheers! I really enjoy it, including all the research that goes into making things possible, so hopefully it's helpful to others.
Hi mate as you are aware now the gap between wall and stringer is what we carpenters call a school boy error in measuring I recon you or whoever measured the opening didn’t put in the correct measurement. 100mm is the classic error either to wide or to narrow. Also now your a builder call the tools by their correct name what’s a “multi cutter” ? Posh builders but hey your having a go well done.
@OfficeBoyBuilder
9 ай бұрын
The error was the thickness of the stringer (on both sides) which hadn't been accounted for by the client who ordered the stairs.
@954fireblade
8 ай бұрын
Hi so why did you let your customer order such an important item.
Very odd having a stair crossing a window.
How about that window 🤔
Good luck for the next project 😎
Looking at using stairbox for my stairs. What's the issue with measuring again?. They don't include the stringer width when you design the staircase online?. Cheers
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is, as we weren't the ones to measure it, but the gap was exactly the width of two stringers, so perhaps that was accounted for. They have a great customer support function, so if it's not clear on their site, just call them and I'm sure they'll help.
@benrichards1
3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficeBoyBuilder thanks for the reply.
m12 bolts just in cement adhesive?
@hendrax5889
3 жыл бұрын
It's a chemical resin. It's structural. I use it all the time for wall plates, floating shelves anything really. M12 threaded bar in a 16mm hole pumped with chemfix, goes off like concrete in 10 minutes. Amazing stuff.
Do you want some glue with your stairs sir?
@sixteeschyl
Жыл бұрын
😆 best to be on the safe side ..
@OfficeBoyBuilder
Жыл бұрын
Lol, I tell you what I Don't want...squeaks! 💪🤣
Good job 👍👍
Whats happening with the window mate?
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
The window's staying in place - not sure what building regs/inspectors want to do about that to be honest, but it's a fairly common arrangement these days.
Sound a bit like Bear Grills
top work
Do you know what's the pitch of the stairs?
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know that, sorry! We didn't order them, the client did, so I didn't ever find that out. I imagine they're a standard pitch though, which is determined by the rise and run of each step. Typically you have around 200mm of rise and 225mm of run per step, and then however many steps you have on the staircase decides how high it goes.
@nataliawalker4184
3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficeBoyBuilder Thank you
@coops6621
3 жыл бұрын
@@nataliawalker4184 stairs need to be maximum 42 degrees and minimum tread of 220mm if you’re doing it under building regs
@vascularlab
3 жыл бұрын
How much do you charge to fit a stair box staircase? I am impressed that you solved the gap on the edge of the stairs, a very clean finish
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Staircase fitting as a stand alone job is typically quite expensive, because of the time consuming nature of it. I don't actually do that myself, it is wrapped up as part of the cost of the overall job. However, depending on where you live, the supply and fit of a staircase could easily cost £1.5-2K depending on the side of it.
Anyway to Contact you?
@OfficeBoyBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
Contact details should be in my info/about section...officeboybuilder@gmail.com
I did leave another comment but I really don’t like what you’ve done. I’d be very unhappy with that staircase that you’ve fitted if I was the client I’d want it re fitted correctly.
@OfficeBoyBuilder
9 ай бұрын
2 points; 1) you're not the client, so that's a relief. 2) the staircase was measured and ordered by the client. We simply fitted what they had bought. Not an ideal situation to be in, but equally not something we can change after the fact
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