"which is hands down the most frustrating feeling ever, when something works just fine for everybody else, but when you do the same thing, theres a problem." truer words were never said

@beardalaxy

Жыл бұрын

I was running into that issue today trying to build some open source stuff. Follow the instructions exactly, except you need this thing it didn't tell you about, and that thing needs this other thing that they don't tell you about xD

@byeFofiko1

Жыл бұрын

God that reminds me of trying to get Minecraft mods as a kid... I actually cried trying to go to the aether

@MemExp2010

10 ай бұрын

​@@byeFofiko1i tried to go to the aether in vanilla Minecraft, and i also tought that it was the secret "water dimension"

@dovacon7409

4 ай бұрын

Literally!! It happens so freaking often to me 😭

@dovacon7409

4 ай бұрын

Omg same

17:09 I love when performance is measured in seconds per frame instead of frames per second

@barbecuesauceeyebrows8254

Жыл бұрын

It was probably .5 frames per second lol

@beardymcbeardface69

Жыл бұрын

;) Back when I discovered how cool ray tracing was, back in 1991 on my i486DX33, I would be describing basic scenes within text file configs, using primitives and referring to texture images, etc. When it came time to render to 1024x768 256 colour, I'd kick it off just before going to bed, so that it would be ready for me when I woke up after shortly after. Rendering single frames literally took hours! Although it was actual ray tracing with non-faked reflections and refractions, so nothing like the compromises used for 3D games of the time. 1 Frame Per Sleep!

@hamm3rextreme546

11 ай бұрын

That's called frame time.

@user-lt5tm3hx9u

9 ай бұрын

So true

@APZOEIRT

7 ай бұрын

@@beardymcbeardface69 bruh

Man these videos never get old

@obseletechannel

Жыл бұрын

Especially the 2019 videos, love em

@CalebPlays13

Жыл бұрын

ik

@CalebPlays13

Жыл бұрын

@@obseletechannel yeah they hit just looking back

@he8535

Жыл бұрын

Finally I've been waiting for this video

@Nightcaat

Жыл бұрын

It’s an hour old right now, actually

Running doom on mac os on linux on a wii is a sentence i would've come up with as a joke but you actually did it

I feel like the font issue could be down to difference in formats between TrueType and OpenType or something like that. Might be an idea to install fonts of different formats and see if any display correctly in TextEdit

@servantbyday

Жыл бұрын

Brill

@MaddTheSane

Жыл бұрын

TextEdit is a Mac OS X app. The Classic version is either TeachText (which I hate) or SimpleText. I remember reading somewhere that the video card/driver doesn’t support a texture format that either MoL or Mac OS proper uses.

@jetjazz05

Жыл бұрын

I was curious if there is like a drop shadow option or something similar in a menu. I've personally not used Mac os, but other operating systems have shadows or highlights to spice up text, was curious if that was happening here. It makes a little sense to me, the fonts are clearly displaying but it's like they were widened by 100% also he changes font, maybe changing font size would be more useful as a test to see if larger is legible

@sovo1212

Жыл бұрын

Is truetype the Mac equivalent to clear type?

@woalk

Жыл бұрын

@@sovo1212 TrueType is a standard font format, with files ending with the suffix “.ttf”.

What if most things that MJD has made or tested has worked, but he only uploads the videos when he encounters problems.

@ForestGrieferMC_YT

Жыл бұрын

It makes sense

@azegyetlenczibi

Жыл бұрын

But it's just a theory, an MJD THEORY

@theodoros_1234

Жыл бұрын

From my experience with tech, it's very unlikely🤣 especially with the weird stuff Michael does. He's just destined to have problems.

@MikeSparksMusic

Жыл бұрын

It occurs in an alternate universe.

@staysmoky

Жыл бұрын

It's called good content

Holy shit, I wanted to cry watching this video. It was so refreshing to finally see someone else try to do something simple, but have problem after problem along the way, and finally figure it out after spending so much time on it. Tears of joy to know that im not the only one in the world dealing with this bullshit.

@petsimisvad123

Жыл бұрын

Hiii

@goandymate

9 ай бұрын

Hi @@petsimisvad123

@coolguyshockettes

Ай бұрын

Hi ​@@petsimisvad123 !!

"Things are never simple on this channel" -Michael (at 1:03)

@Poyrik

Жыл бұрын

1 second ago

@chrism869

Жыл бұрын

True, things always go wrong, this makes the video more entertaining

@chocolateimage

Жыл бұрын

@@chrism869 things always go wrong also on me

@chrism869

Жыл бұрын

@@chocolateimage oh you think, cause i have the same things happen to me, my computer stopped working after trying to update the Macintosh version, it wouldn't boot anymore

I'm so impressed with the fact that you managed to get it working, especially as complicated as it was with all the workarounds

Hey MJD, it was me that sent you the "Mac on Wii" video some months ago. Thanks for making a tutorial of it, I couldn't find a way to do it

Thank-you for answering an age old question I had ever since I found out that the Wii had a Motorola PowerPC chip. I didn't actually think it would be possible! Shame you can't get the mac version of Halo running :) That would have been too beautiful.

@ashleybreadgirls1228

Жыл бұрын

It's an IBM one but yeah

@royerxd3212

Жыл бұрын

It's IBM not Motorola

@alexanderkarren6455

Жыл бұрын

You would need OS X to play Halo.

@lamelama22

Жыл бұрын

I mean... the original developer kits that Microsoft sent out for the XBox 360 were literally off-the-shelf Apple Power Mac G5 towers with "property of Microsoft" stickers and running the PowerPC port of XBox Windows, even has an OG XBox emulator built in that can run the original Halo. Anything's possible. :D

@apollolux

Жыл бұрын

If Doom was running that slow, Halo would've been in the seconds-per-frame territory. XD

Please don't change dude. Informative videos are what the tech community need.

@Marc_Wolfe

8 ай бұрын

bot

This is so freaking cool! I love the classic Mac glory days -especially when all of that 90’s bliss gets mashed into initially unrelated 2000’s bliss!

I have a lot of nostalgia for that MacOS9 always brings such nostalgia. The computer was already old when I I got in the mid 2000s but I enjoyed it a lot.

@scout8145

Жыл бұрын

Same here! I remember using MacOS9 at a computer lab when I was younger, so it has so much nostalgia for me, too

@wertywerrtyson5529

Жыл бұрын

@@scout8145 For me it was an ex school computer that I got for free as the school was throwing it out. It was probably from 96 or 97 pre iMac and it was obsolete. But I still had fun with it. We had a PC at home but I put it in the summer house so I could use it when I spent my summer vacations there during my teenage years. I played a lot of StarCraft and some other games not to mention I filled it with every picture or video of Sung Hi Lee I could find on the computer back home that had internet and burned them to a disc and brought. She was sort of my 14 year old crush 😅

@pikachuchujelly7628

Жыл бұрын

I like the look of classic Mac OS, but man, it sure liked to crash a lot. A single program freezing would lock up the machine. Even Windows 95 was better at handling this.

This is my new favorite MJD video, the pacing is on point.

Instantly subscribed. The fact that you would even do this, makes this my kind of channel.

I wonder if the font issue has to do with hardware acceleration. You can see the same types of graphical corruption affecting the Quicktime Player UI, so maybe if you can disable graphics acceleration that might help clear up some of the corruption.

@peppermintpig974

Жыл бұрын

Possible. The font issue looks like it can't handle anti-aliasing of text so it blacks it all out.

@anowl6370

Жыл бұрын

It looks like it might be a floating point issue, but I'm not familiar enough with the hardware or software enough to say.

@pikachuchujelly7628

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that makes sense. I wonder if you can disable anti-aliasing in Mac OS 9. Though I don't recall Mac OS 9 using any anti-aliased fonts in the UI.

@peppermintpig974

Жыл бұрын

@@pikachuchujelly7628 Anti Aliasing arrived in Mac OS 8.5. Yes, in Mac OS 9 you can disable anti aliasing of fonts in the Appearance control panel.

@peppermintpig974

Жыл бұрын

@@pikachuchujelly7628 All True Type fonts above size 11 are treated to anti-aliasing by the OS. Appearance control panel can disable that feature.

I have met you in this video and you have a new follower. I love doing things like that on my own, pushing things to the limits of hardware or doing mindless mixes. I have always summarized with my friends playing PS Vita (Sony) to Forza Horizon 5 (Xbox) through Moonlight (PC) with a Wii remote (Nintendo) but now they will see my Wii with MacOS .. crazy

I think it would be possible to get Mac OS9 running natively on Wii, not via a linux abstraction layer, but natively natively. You'd just need to basically modify the entire OS to treat the wii hardware as native mac hardware, which means drivers and add-ons to teach OS9 how to use the Wii's hardware. Something like the software uses for Sonnet CPU upgrades, something to redirect the bootloader, native SD card/USB support using the Wii's controller, new memory mapping, new GPU drivers (which might actually not be that hard since it's an ATI GPU). It would be a lot of work for a meme.

@peppermintpig974

Жыл бұрын

I hope someone does this. OS 7,8,9 running on the Wii would be an incredible way to keep this OS alive in hardware form other than, say, modding a Powerbook G4 to run classic.

@turolretar

7 ай бұрын

I gotchu bro

I've been subscribed for about a year now, and this is the first time I cheered out loud (alone, by myself) when I saw the MacOS 9 bootscreen... amazing!

I love watching your videos. Friends and other nerds say I have too much free time to do silly things .. but you make me feel so much better about the crazy crap I do. Best Wishes to ye! :) Keep being awesome.

Im pretty sure Steve Jobs just did a backflip in his grave

It's not a MJD video without something going wrong.

@LavaCreeperPeople

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@Crazy-qi1gw

Жыл бұрын

What is this? Druaga1?

I've often thought it would be an interesting test to see how many 'layers' of emulators you can run on a system without crashing and without making the final layer unusable. For example, imagine a super fast Windows PC running an Amiga emulator which is itself running a C64 emulator (like Magic 64). Is it possible to go more levels?

@justaguycalledjosh

Жыл бұрын

I've done 3 before. Linux PC running Switch EMU, running MelonDS, running a GBC emu. Or you can go from DS to SNES/NES/Genesis/2600... Theres a lot of options to run stuff from a DS, but you dont really get much emulator support on anything older.

@vascomanteigas9433

Жыл бұрын

So far I made two times 2 emulators chained. The PS3 emulator RPCS3 support the built-in firmware PS1 emulator to run some PS1 games on my Linux PC using a PS3 emulator. Also I revived an old MS-DOS emulator called NO$GBA to play Game Boy games, using DOSBox running on Linux.

@RaveN_EDM

Жыл бұрын

Windows 11 pc running windows 7 via virtual machine running blue stacks a android emulator which runs dolphin a Wii emulator which runs SNES via virtual console which runs super gameboy a gameboy emulator and the gameboy game would be a port of an arcade game lol Then you get your android phone and remotely control your pc using moonlight to play all the above and you stream your phone to your smart tv. How many layers idek. A lot of it isn’t technically emulation but still it would be cool to see lol

@theglassarrow_

Жыл бұрын

@@vascomanteigas9433 with how the ps3 works I wouldn't be shocked if a ps3 emulator starts a ps1 emulator outside of itself to run ps1 games. Also this has to be the worst way to run a ps1 game though emulation.

@slamburger

Жыл бұрын

​@@RaveN_EDM qqAs

The "Stop" or "Continue" prompt during the installation was essentially asking you if you wanted to install additional software. You can stop here and the system will boot just fine.

Loved it. Its an adventure to do this stuff. Sub earned btw.

@MichaelMJD

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

i can't get enough of this format of videos

Oh dude, this video was awesome, each time you managed to get a “small” victory I was genuinely smiling and cheering you up !

Could the font issue be about Smoothtype or anti-aliasing?

@pgknippel

Жыл бұрын

PS - Nice work!

The reason why doom ram slow was because MacOS 9 has no graphics drivers for the ATI Hollywood GPU in the Wii, which is based on the Radeon X series.

The future is bright. I'm all for this. How cool! There's probably ways to get this to potentially run natively in full in the future.

I've thought about this for a while! Nice to see someone actually do it.

"Everything runs DOOM, it's just the law" - MJD 17:34

@LennyQUMFIF

Жыл бұрын

Except Wii U, since apparently there's a law to NOT port stuff to Wii U. (fr tho there's no N64/PS1 emulation on Wii U, no media player either, and not even a file browser, and i think you can't run DooM on the latest Wii U hack)

Lol it's a staple, when everything doesn't go right, I actually love these types of videos and they are very interesting and entertaining lol.

I've never seen any video like this, his videos are AWESOME!

These videos are always super entertaining

I love how you can't even read most of the text in the OS, it just makes this whole thing more cursed that it already is!

The generic format for MJD videos: "Hello everybody, and welcome back to another video. Now, in today's video, we're going to be trying to play Cyberpunk 2077 on the Wii." *three seconds later* "Well, shoot. There's a problem. Uh, my house is on fire." But dude, really, I have been watching you for a while now, and you make my days. Thank you so much! My dad had a Dell Latitude D600, along with his business partner, and I want to give you one of them. I just need to ask him for permission to send it to you, but if he says yes, (which he might not, but you never know) please contact me. Thank you again, Michael!

@LavaCreeperPeople

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@CommanderWiggins

Жыл бұрын

It's literally just a slideshow in 140p.

A couple months ago i saw a wii mac mini case mod. This is the real McCoy. Well done mate 👏👏

finally, the video I've wanted for ages, thank you so much

There better be an OS X follow-up to this. Wonder if Action Retro would be willing to make an Mac that's as near to a Wii's hardware as possible as the flip side of the coin.

@Moonhack95

9 ай бұрын

OS X requires at least 128mb to run, so it's not gonna happen.

@tristansewell5986

9 ай бұрын

@@Moonhack95 A suped up Wii, then

@windowsxpnt2347

5 ай бұрын

i would say an 800 or 900mhz ibook g3 with 64-128mb ram would be a good compasrison to the wii

I think the text issue might be MoL running at a lower color depth than Mac OS. That could explain why all of the grey pixels in the antialianed text end up black.

You know what is nice whenever I get out of school right away some Michael mjd video is there on some days

Madlad, I would have never thought this would be possible 🤯 too cool!

What a 4 year old sees on a computer

@KaptainKharisma

23 күн бұрын

Ur dumb

@celularesrotundamentlentos

Күн бұрын

Bip bip boop boop

I would love to see this Linux installation on a modded wii that has an HDMI port

@Kippykip

Жыл бұрын

i'd like to see it on a wii u tbh

@atomickid

Жыл бұрын

Too bad Mac os at the time didn't had accessibility options to magnify the text.

@cat1554

Жыл бұрын

...so a Wii U?

@stale2665

Жыл бұрын

@@cat1554 No, a Wii with a HDMI port.

@awii.neocities

Жыл бұрын

@@stale2665 The Wii U has a virtual Wii inside it, with full backwards compatibility (there is Wii hardware inside the Wii U) but the virtual Wii doesn't support most homebrew, so I'm not sure if it will even work

I haven't watched this bro in a year and his videos are still good

The more videos of you doing stuff like this, the more i get confused how this is possible. I think its hilarious how this is possible.

18:00 First there is a game with top notch graphics while keeping a smooth 60 FPS, truly a magnificent piece of engineering and entertainment. And then there are wii games.

@beardalaxy

Жыл бұрын

You mean metroid prime 3?

Bro playing the game who is this going to trigger first? Nintendo lawyers or Apple lawyers. And answering why not both 🤷

this is a really great episode i am watching you for so long and can you maybe make more videos over the windows 98 pc and i have respect for all your videos❤❤

I have been waiting for someone to do this!

I remember being pretty impressed when I had Yellow Dog Linux installed on my PS3 running emulators, Firefox, and MSN Messenger.

@beardalaxy

Жыл бұрын

Did ya get your $6 in the class action suit? XD

@therealstaticthreat

9 ай бұрын

No, what the hell? I could've had it all! 😭

Great stuff, it never occurred to me that MoL would work here. The issue with the glitchy graphics (which didn't appear to be only fonts) feels like it must have occurred somewhere else. I wonder if it's worth trying to run at different colour depths, e.g. 16/24 bit colour, or even just 256 color mode ? It looks like there are more moden versions of Linux available, like wii-linux-ngx, it might be worth trying and building MacOnLinux for it.

@pseudotasuki

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I immediately noticed that something screwy was happening with the color depth while it was booting. I get the feeling that X was using 8-bit colors whereas MacOS was higher. That would definitely mess with fonts like that.

Great video! Well explained! Thanks for sharing! 😃

So cool!! Thanks for pushing through the pain of getting it working! If someone can fix the font display issue it will be amazing!

So... those errors that you saw during the installation process, I wonder if that's tied to the size of the image you used (the iMac file), and if that can be solved by creating a new file (dd bs=1048576 count=1024) for a larger hard disk drive.

This is so silly and so cool. Love it! I have to assume a lack of video acceleration or how Linux/MOL is handling video is causing the weird artifacts and poor Doom performance. It looks like it was struggling with system animations too.

Thanks for the video, more of this kind of stuff please!

I could binge watch these videos man

I noticedat 15:17 that when you hovered over the restart option, it was partially readable. I don't know if that could help with diagnosing the issue, but it does look like it's fixable

To me the Text corruptions looks like an issue with either Anti-aliaising of the font or subpixel rendering.

the challenges along the way made the goal more worthwhile

finally this is the content I've been waiting for

I sincerely doubt any of the existing ATI drivers for Mac OS 9 would be compatible with the custom ATI Hollywood chip, but if someone could somehow tweak those to work, it might resolve some of the graphical issues.

I used MOL *seriously* for a while on my iMac DV back in the day, with linuxppc as a base, it was very, VERY good and I could use it for codewarrior and so on, and the speed difference with the 'native' version was really negligible. I don't remember that font problem on the 'real' iMac tho, it's odd! Perhaps there are a couple instructions that differs *slightly* with the original G3?

@pikachuchujelly7628

Жыл бұрын

The Wii's CPU is basically a G3 (PowerPC 750). It lacks AltiVec instructions that a real G3 has, with its own Nintendo-specific vector instructions instead. I think the font issue may be some incompatibility with color depth.

7:33 kept replaying it because that was the cool part, the music just goes with the video too satisfying and happy

@BEST_ALEX

Жыл бұрын

Even searched for the music

@ghostly_gibus

Жыл бұрын

Did u fund out what the music was?

@BEST_ALEX

Жыл бұрын

Misplaced my keys by Stevia Sphere

It is pretty cool you can do this. Thank you for the video.

I had this running years ago on a Amiga 1200 with blizzard PPC 603 card, also using linux and MOL and a lot of initial troubles..

@burtbladers

Жыл бұрын

Did SheepShaver not work with that card?

@onlogica

Жыл бұрын

@@burtbladers No i never got it to work back then.. and i was fan of Shapeshifter wich was working even better then a original 68k mac on Amiga.

this is super cool, need to get my old wii out of storage now lol I wonder if the font problem has something to do with TrueType

@WohaoG

Жыл бұрын

Why was your wii in storage?

@DecibelAlex

Жыл бұрын

driver problem is my guess. it's a miracle it even boots on the wii

i love when MJD posts a new video

Would love to see if you could turn the Wii into basically a thin client to use in order to Remote Desktop into a full pc

@pikachuchujelly7628

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, that's definitely possible. There are homebrew apps like WiiVNC that can do it. Only problem is that the Wii's 640x480 resolution is pretty low, so it may be hard to read things.

@Burntcrayon-cb7eh

Жыл бұрын

@@pikachuchujelly7628 could potentially fix by adding hdmi output through modding

You might try turning off font anti aliasing and see if that fixes some of the font stuff.

@peppermintpig974

Жыл бұрын

This. It really does look like all the pixels related to the anti-aliasing are going black.

Great video as always. Next step: Trying to run the PowerPC build of Windows NT 4.0!

Incredible! I never thought I'd ever see MAC OS on a Wii! Top stuff! 😎👍

this framerate _(and quite possibly font)_ issue may be due to lack of compatible video driver. even if there’s none widely available for the specific part that’s in the console it’s worth trying to search for the _.kext_ driver files for hacintosh for parts of the same manufacturer (unfortunately i’m not familiar with Wii’s exact specification, but I assume there’s a chance that it may use GPU from a somewhat conventional brand), even if the specific models won’t match. i remember i was able to “guess” my way to get the wireless adapter on Eee PC to run succesfully on OSX 10.5 (Leopard). still, be prepared to brick the system a couple of times along the way, but i somehow assume that you may already know this loool

@pikachuchujelly7628

Жыл бұрын

The Wii's GPU is the ATI Flipper, and it only exists in the GameCube, Wii, and Wii U. While there were some ATI graphics cards in 1999 with similar feature sets, they would certainly not be similar enough to use the same driver.

I love the way how computer technicians think. The hope when you boot something that you know it dont boot but its boot. It is the best thing ever. (Rgh xbox 360 memories)

The videos are good as always!

I just love your channel!

Wow!! Maybe you could try windows 7 next time? Great video Michael!!

@ArtieArchives

Жыл бұрын

Its probably impossible due to technical limitations

@samuel-wankenobi

Жыл бұрын

Not possible I don't think you can go past windows me or maybe you could get xp though upgrade

@sleppy_9105

Жыл бұрын

​@@ArtieArchives Mabye with a version of Tiny7

@NatetheNintendofan

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he could get XP but probably not kefir trouble use an Xbox 360 to get seven on

@JustPyroYT

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm I think Windows 7 wouldn't be possible. But XP could maybe work...

That intro is one of the best I've seen in a while

Quick question - when you did the intial OS 9 boot, was that the actual boot or did you cut it out? Cause I had a LOT of experience with OS 8/9 and early macs, even had an iMac G3 450 Mhz at one point. They took a *minute* to boot. Also, have you tried changing the resolution to make text more lleggible?

That graphics problem looks like a special multicolor mode. The graphics chips interprets Pattern as new colors ar sth. like that. In normal text mode - not bold - you do not have the pixels so close to each other. And it may be different graphics panes of the Wii chip.

iWii

Awesome video, Michael!

so sick. Cant wait to try it out.

This is the shit I'm interested in and what I've been studying computer engineering for! Precisely useless garbage like this 🤣 Thanks for sharing!

I swear to god this technology for the wii is evolving. I wouldn’t be surprised if you could install Xbox 360 games onto the wii at this point.

@computerkid1416

Жыл бұрын

That's not possible. It's not powerful enough.

@karlimo4034

Жыл бұрын

He was... joking.

@daskampffredchen9242

Жыл бұрын

@@computerkid1416 Maybe as a slide show

I remember this speculation many many years ago, cool to see it actually done without emulation.

You make the best videos, man.

It's a brand new day. The sun is shining, and there's a new mjd video.

I got lost very early on, with all the go-here-and-do-this-then-do-that-and-repeat, but given that trying to install MacOS 13 on VMware (which I actually did) or totally replacing Windows with it, sent me into a headspin, I admire your tenacity!

Omgg I've been following you for a long time, and seeing you talking bout me it's like aaaa (I'm the gbatemp guy ;p) Great video, as always!

@josealcayaga8067

Жыл бұрын

Btw I just tried to flash the image a couple of weeks ago, and had the same issue of the Wii not booting. I just backed up the stuff on the boot partition, formatted it and it was good to go

I love how far we've come

My go-to for geek needs! Nice one man

Great thumbnail. Caught my attention couldn’t help but watch.

I like the OS/2 box in the background !

Michael MJD, I am having trouble with the "deleting partitions and cloning". Oh, and I already formatted my SD card with the image. because when I put it in the Wii, it flashes the disc light blue. Can you help

Wow!! I didn't realize my Wii is using a PowerPC. Hmm! I wonder if I could install AmigaOS 4.x? I'm really glad I came across this. I'll check your other videos, too.

@jordanl5444

6 ай бұрын

Id love to see it if you end up getting amigaos to run

That intro was perfect. If you though installing linux on the wii was crazy, well buckle up. Clicks eject button. Mac os 9 disc comes out. Perfect